Is LEM a meme?

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>>33098680
>Is LEM a meme?

Nope

https://pistol-training.com/archives/8549

>>33100756
Impressive.

Very nice.

Use one for work gun (HK P2000). Takes a little getting used to, but i like it a lot more than true DA only trigger pull.

>>33101245
What about compared to da/SA or striker?

I just ordered one of the USP compact lem on classic firearms.

My gf and I tried a P2000sk with the LEM when we were looking for a gun she liked, we both hated the trigger. I have no doubt some people are very good with them, but I'll stick to the da/sa I've been shooting forever thanks.

>>33101526
Hoping I don't feel this way when I get my lem usp

>>33098680
Nope, just the weapons light.

>>33101537

Yeah it was a shame, really liked the pistol outside of that.

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>>33101170

>>33101537
You can always swap the parts to a v1

>>33101542
kys

>>33101526
My P2000SK is DA/SA, wouldn't trade it for the LEM. I tried the LEM, I just feel so much more comfortable with DA/SA myself.

>>33101547
Hoping it feels like a smoother lighter Glock with slightly more travel.

But yeah I could but that's expensive I think. I have heard LEM + Match trigger parts is god tier. that's about 120 dollars tho

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>>33101254
There's a bunch of slack initially and then at approximately 3/4 of the way rearward, you hit the wall where you have to apply about 6 lbs of pressure to break the shot, after that there's about 1/16th of an inch of over travel. When you reset the trigger, you just let it go back past the wall instead of all the way forward and you're ready for follow-up shots.

Like I said, it takes a little practice. I was told that HK did the LEM trigger to come as close to a SA trigger pull while still holding to liability safety restrictions that law enforcement wanted.

>>33101595
Sounds like it will be a good carry gun. I will possibly remove the safety however if that's an easy thing to do because it's pretty unnecessary along with the lem.

>>33101599
Nope.

>>33101614
Oh no

I remove warning labels all the time. Live a little.

>>33101614
>>33101599
>>33101588
What the fuck are you doing?

>>33101632
You have to purposefully squeeze through all the slack in the trigger until you're at the point of applying the real pressure to break the shot.

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>>33101656
Border Patrol.

>>33101670
Do you guys still use AUGs?

>>33101677
We've never used AUGs as long as I've been here. Colt m4 and a few modernized M14s.

>>33101670
That is an lem?

>>33101678
The vast majority of us are behind Trump 1000%. I have mixed feelings. The patriot in me wants to end illegal immigration but my job would be kind of boring if I didn't have anyone to chase and fight anymore.

BTW why do all your post have a shitload of question marks and random characters attached?

>>33101696

Yes sir

>>33101686
Oh, I was mistaken. ICE uses the AUGs, or at least used to.

>>33101670
You're a true American hero, god dammit.

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>>33098680
Yes
V1 is best V

>>33098680
yes, it's a meme, you fuck

>>33102638
your mom is a meme

>>33098680

I have either bought or converted my HK's to LEM.

I personally really like it and have 3 different trigger weights

>P2000 in light
>USP compact in heavy
>USP in very light (gunsmith converted it).

Anyway, the trigger may be long, but it's light enough that you don't throw off your sight picture when pulling the trigger, and you have the option to "stack it" by pulling to the breakpoint, then firing.

Reset is good, but a little further out than I would like.

I would spend full price on a LEM gun now, but my first was the P2000, and I bought that from an acquaintance for $400, and that was low enough to gamble on a weird trigger and learn to like it.

FWIW, that experiment lead me to buying a Sig 226 with DAK trigger, and that gun was terrible. Dak is weird as fuck, and the gun was pretty glitchy.

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>>33098680
>~90 left
Classic Firearms almost out.

>>33103837
Neat. I'm feeling good about the lem. I think I'll like it.

And if not fuck for the price I'll convert it and still have a cheap USP.

>>33102619

So beautiful. Can't wait to join the masterrace.

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>>33103871
>Classic Firearms almost out.

What's going on with the PW Arms logo?

>>33105502
They imported it from Europe through secondary market channels instead of directly through HKI in Virginia.

Don't expect a warranty if something breaks or if you want it serviced.

>>33106787
Oh fuck I hadn't considered warranty

Surely HK will stand behind it?

>>33107072
The last few times PW Arms imported existing models through back channels the original importers got angry and took it out on the customer through refusal of warranty service.

Beretta, Browning, Steyr and HK have a history of doing this with grey market guns.

>>33107129
Sig too with older east German guns

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>>33107129

>>33107148
What East German guns did SIG make/sell/import?

>>33107301
There were west German 226's and other handguns that came in through PW Arms.

>>33107129

Steyr pretty much eliminated this as they purchased their primary importer back in the day and that's Steyr USA now.

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>>33107338
Still doesn't stop secondary importers like PW Arms from funneling contract guns into the country

Those Gen 2 M9-A1's were headed toward the middle east until they backed out of the deal back in the early 2010's.

>>33098680
Yes

part of the USP's appeal is that its DA/SA is already really good as is.

>>33107429
I am getting mixed signals

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>>33103871
Bro thanks for the heads up, just order a german USP LEM compact - this is definitely how you round out an HK collection.

>>33107540
Ignore >>33107429
This is the kind of stuff you hear from criminally inexperienced pistol shooters who love the HK roll mark.

Before you guys all rail against me... >>33107623

>>33107662
>>33107623
Sounds like the lem is alot like a Glock trigger but a little longer.

Hopefully the CF one has a light trigger not the heavy lem

>>33108506
If you have not shot the LEM trigger it's hard to compare.

Think of it like a Karh trigger - very long - but unlike a kahr trigger there's a ton of front loaded take up and a nice wall. (karh is basically a smooth traditional DA feel, maybe a little lighter than a TDA DA pull)

I sold my kahr before I was good with resets so I'm not sure how the LEM and Karh resets stack up - but the LEM reset is typically longer than a glocks.

Basically both a striker DAO gun (glock) and the LEM trigger will be consistent.

The LEM trigger will have MUCH more take up, and significantly longer reset, but will be generally considerably lighter and safer.

>>33108566
I thought lem functioned like an SA when riding the reset?

>>33108588
It does but compared to striker DAO it's a significantly longer reset.

For shooters like me (and presumably you) who cannot actually track and position the front sight post shooting faster than 4 rounds a second it's not a big issue.

But assuming our grip strength, grip presentation and "seeing" skills improved the psychical length of the reset could start to effect your times.

This is mostly gun gamer stuff, but numbers are numbers.

>>33108766
So getting lem with the match kit would be pretty close to perfect then?

>>33108779
Never messed with the match trigger kits but word of mouth says g2g.

It is basically covered post #2 in the thread - but yeah LEM is a criminally ignored trigger system design that would and could go a long way to reducing negligent shootings and increasing hit rates.

>>33108956
I will have to see how I like it. But if it's harder to use or less effective than a Glock trigger that's a bit of a shame. A Glock trigger doesn't strike me as something that will be a hindrance or safety risk under stress.

Any USP bros in here have experience with the match trigger kits?
Is it worth taking the sear and hammer and polishing further on a stone?
Just fyi, my USP is a variant 9 and it stays cocked and locked so if working over the match trigger parts doesn't help the SA then it's not really worth it to me.

>>33108991
>But if it's harder to use or less effective than a Glock trigger that's a bit of a shame

I didn't convey this correctly...

It's an inherently easier and safer trigger system, in the top 20% playing field of skilled shooters (a relm most of us will not get to let alone understand) guys on striker DAO will have a speed advantage.

It's all a wash because there's so many other factors like grip texture, ergonomics, control placement vs your hand size...

>>33109069

I have the match in my USPT, it's much better than the stock trigger both on DA but especially SA.

>>33109078
I don't see why it has a safety advantage compared to a glock? Just pull length?

>>33109140
>Just pull length?

Yes, under stress people feel check their trigger, it just happens regardless of training, the mile long initial take up allows that reassurance with a significantly reduction in AD risk.

>>33109213
So aside from safety it's inferior to striker fired?

>>33110354
I'm not sure what your metric is for superior or inferior. I think I've stated my observed advantages and disadvantages of both, it's up to you to decide which best suits your needs.