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we post guns we HATE
and why
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>>33095186
Okay... there, done.
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All platsic guns. Pic related.
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>>33095186
Anyone who hates any gun is an anti-gun cuck
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I honestly don't like AK's.

>all the recoil of a full sized cartridge with none of the advantages of a mid sized one.

fucking why
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>>33095186
the Remington r51. I gave it a chance (my last chance with Remington) because it sounded cool on paper and it was worse then my wildest dreams could have imagined. Now it and the company are dead to me
I WANTED TO LOVE YOU
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>>33095220

i hate ak fanboys more than the ak itself

but i cant talk because im an AR fanboi
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FN pistols. I dont necessarily hate them but I dont find that appealing or special. They dont offer anything different or arguably better then "polymer pistol #9", in fact I fine them to be a bit heavier, wider and not as balanced
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>>33095220
>>all the recoil of a full sized cartridge

What is it like being 60lbs?
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>>33095238
Get rekt faggot
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>>33095243

disgusting
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>>33095241
7.62×39mm is in an awkward no mans land between 5.56 nato and 7.62×54mmR

it's fucking shit
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>>33095186
I really don't like AR-15s. I've shot many, but I just don't have fun shooting them. I wouldn't say hate, just don't really like them. Im about to get rocked in this thread
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>>33095205
>If you've ever had a car that was absolute shit and hated the model as a result, you don't think anyone should be allowed to drive

Let me guess, you're a Taurus owner.
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>>33095246
>I am this weak

Also AKs come in more than 7.62x39, dingus. It's not 1952.
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>>33095243
Looks like german guards and a krinkov break, maybe a romanian round mag.

I like the look of everything except the green sling. Maybe tan or black but the green looks best with wood
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>>33095186
>M700
It's all fucked up. I hate it so fucking much.
>M21/M14, etc
Fuck you. It's garbage. I don't know why I fell for the meme.
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>>33095263
its not about being weak its about selecting a cartridge that makes sense and is fun to shoot

if you want to use le weak argument why not just chamber everything in 50 BMG
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>>33095383
>complains about the recoil on guns malnourished peasants and child soldiers have been using for 70+ years

Really made me laugh
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>>33095249
I love my AR but I won't deny my SKS is more ergonomic and fun to shoot. Hpw the fuck the SKS is more ergonomic I can only attribute to my superior manlet genetics
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AR15s. I probably would like and own of if 90% of the owners weren't just another clone of pic related.

I know I shouldn't keep myself from enjoying something because the fanbase is retarded but it's just so hard.
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>>33095186

sporterized military rifles disgust me to infinity. ruining good pieces of history.
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>>33095480
That is must of my problems with CZ (except that every CZ fanboy I know is a skeleton) and 10mm fanboys.

CZs are fine if a bit uninteresting, and there is nothing exactly objectionable about the 10mm, but their respective fans desperate search for validation sours my attitude toward the products.
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>>33095589
Most 10mm fanboys don't even own a 10mm firearm (or any firearm at all)
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>>33095480
I tried really hard to dance around owning an AR-15 and Glock because they're just so common and the fanboys are just so obnoxious, but I've ended up with both anyway.

Their popularity creates a critical mass of value and practicality that's hard to pass up. It's definitely possible to do that without being an obnoxious prat, but the extremely small minority of owners didn't get that memo. Yes, you own a Glock/AR

EVERYONE DOES
NOBODY CARES
YOU AREN'T SPECIAL

Same can be said of the Remington 870/Mossberg 500/Mav 88
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>>33095623
Hmm. Perhaps, but that is impossible to verify in this environment.

This is a general thing for me. Apple evangelists bother me, Harley Harpies make me want to buy a Triumph out of spite, Subaru will never get a dime of my money because of the seething cancer that is their community, etc.

I am sure that I miss out on good products this way.
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>>33095682
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>ugly finish
>irons suck
>stripper clips suck
>useless bayonet
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>>33095220
>all the recoil
every round fired from an AK feels like getting a pat on the shoulder from lieutenant-general Kalashnikov himself. You're literally holding the spirit of a hero in your hands when you fire an AK. Have some respect.
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Maverick 88

My brother got one so he'd have a shotgun, couldn't get it to fire the whole tube without jamming. Maybe because I was spoiled by a classic 870 wingmaster I'm biased but fuck that piece of shit.

Ruger 10/22

I won't be that guy and say it doesn't have it's benefits (IE mags, aftermarket etc.) and it's definitely a solid gun. But fuck me if I could get my stepdads 10/22 with the "match barrel", drop in "tuned trigger" and Leupold glass to shoot straighter than my factory Marlin 60 with Bushnell glass. The trigger is actually very nice, but I couldn't get a tighter group than my cheap little rabbit gun.

Glock
I don't hate them but after firing several different ones belonging to range buddies I would only get one for commonality of accessories. Just meh.
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>>33095240
I think the ergonomics are much better than on the Glock and some others, but that's all personal opinion. Pic related has the thin backstrap which I hate though
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>>33095682
you sound like the type of person who doesn't play mobas because
>le toxic community
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>>33095856

the only thing that makes the marlin worse is the shitty tube mag.
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>>33095856
Your brother fucked up his Maverick. I've never had a problem with mine, and never heard off one having serious problems.
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>>33095880
>rifle is all about mechanical function, only the aftermarket is affected by the community
>geimu is all about teammates and enemies, both composed entirely of the community
In what universe are the sentiments comparable?
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>>33095680
Shotgun fan boys are no where near the toxicity of ar and glock. Maybe it's just their lower numbers though.
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honestly, the 42 and 43 are better IMO. If you want a small pocket gun youre looking for something with around 6-7 rounds. If you want a double stack you might as well just get a compact or go with the 19
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>>33095830
The solution to all of these problems lies within bubba.
>No need to use the irons
>Detachable mags mean no stripper clips
>Bayonet removed
>Finish is arguably better and if not satisfactory you can spray paint it
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Oh where do i even begin with this gun.
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>>33096075
Start from the top
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>>33096069
p. cute tho
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>>33095880
I don't play mobas because I have little interest in gaming after working in the industry for a while. I still play D&D as well as the occasional Dark Heresy game, but that is because I enjoy the company of my friends.

It is a poor comparison to equate that to fanatical brand loyalty among consumers of durable goods.

>capcha really wants help finding carrots today
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>>33095993
It was like that brand new, he hadn't even shot it yet.
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>>33096075
alright I'll start from the top. The delayed blowback fucked up your bullets causing to jam more often. You can't install any optic or at least without modding it. Because of the insane firing speed the gun would jam frequently or fuck up.
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>>33096129
I handled one not too long ago, way too small for my hands. severely dissapointed
the 43 was too but it being so thin it made more sense I suppose
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the slide safety and thats it. everything else I either loved about it r could deal with. the weight, the side, the trigger, the exposed barrel were all ok with me. I didnt think the safety would bother me after all of /k/ shitposting but boy was I wrong
traded it and will be buying a Sig this weekend. I still miss her though
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>>33096393
Just don't use it then?
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>>33096566
I engaged it a few times by accident. I know I could have just trained around it but none of my other guns had this problem so I didnt want to bother
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>>33095186
>Any polymer gun
They all feel like shit in my hand

>AKs
Hard to get a good sight picture
Recoil is unpredictable
Clunky mags
Weird stock angle.
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They're all so fucking expensive. And the ammo, sure a box is cheap but if I want to do any serious shooting I've got to break out the credit card. Life is suffering.
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Savage Model 64 .22lr because it's a shitty-shitty-shit-shit.
The charging handle is 2-dimensional, the magazine angle is unintuitively angled, the mag release gets pulled AWAY from the mag during a reload and is stiffer than a swede with a nigger in their ass necessitating no fewer than 3 hands to change a magazine.
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>>33096069

Complete disagree. The 26 allows you to have a compact gun you can conceal carry extremely and with a simple magazine change have a full size capable pistol.

It's extremely versatile.
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>A1 or A2 AR15s
They look like shit

>glocks
Overrated and their fan boys are more repulsive than a Arma 3 clan.

>Any firearm made in Shitaly
They all look uninspired and boring.
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>>33095186
>glock
>grips like shit unless you get fullsize and stippling
>recoils shitty
>god help you if you try and carry 3 mags
>hurr durr safety IN THE TRIGGER
have fun shooting yourself pulling it out of a serpa holster
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>>33096788
>recoil is unpredictable
Recoil on a AK (7.62) is very mild
>hard to get a good sight picture
Can't shoot well without a optic or ghost right? pathetic.
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>>33097040
I agree with you on Glocks.

The rest of your opinions are hot garbage.
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>>33096788
thanks for letting everyone know you cant shoot for shit without a 12x scope on a 22
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>>33097040
Beretta and Benelli and boring?
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>>33097075
I know right? Italian guns are literally the only aesthetic guns left besides revolvers
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>>33097040
Pure garbage opinions
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>>33095205
I tend to agree with you for the most part. However pick related.
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>>33095363
So much this.
My shooting buddies won't shut up about getting a Springfield m1a either, makes me wanna vomit.
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Pic related- "ambidextrous" manual safety bites your hand no matter how it is held. It's Overpriced for a 380 and does nothing better than its competitors.
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>>33097348
this right here. I wanted one or the 238 so bad until I held one. I didnt know they were that small, it feels like something out of a cereal box
a gun ought to have some weight to it
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>>33097348
Also 938s eject their guide rods

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1MmGRzcKes
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>>33097040
>A1s shit

Wow you sugg
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>>33095240
Its like the svelte Belgian cousin vs the curvy Austrian cousin.
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>>33095480
Dem tiddies
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>>33095856
Did you try all, and I mean ALL the different ammo types in the 22's?
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>>33096788
Dumb frogposter
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>>33097666
Fvck, it's been over 50 years since people has decided and concluded that guide rods must be made of plastic, and this still happens.
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1911s

Their fanbois are even more cancerous than Glockfrags. The 1911 was surpassed in the 1930s, but too many nostalgia goggles to miss the 100+ years of new technology.
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>>33097047
>>33097068
Not an argument as every gun I own has iron sights.
I can also hit targets at 200rds with irons easily.
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>>33098104
>I can also hit targets at 200rds with irons easily.

Woah Chris Kyle over here.
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>>33096750
Autism
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>>33097040
>M16A1 and M16A2
>Looking like shit
/arg/ faggot detected
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>>33095186
I don't really hate any gun, but the worst gun I've shot BY FAR is the Hatfield (AKA Walmart) single shot 12 gauge.
The trigger and hammer are heavy as fuck. Like 15 pounds heavy. And while the trigger being absolute ass sucks, nothing sucks more than the stock. It's shaped in such a way that you get punched in the face if you want to look down the barrel and shoot, even with cheapo birdshot. Very uncomfortable to shoot.
I do like its light weight however, and the fact you can fold it nearly in half. Very cheap as well, only $99.
Pic related.
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>>33098412
You really need to get serious and get an A1 lower.
It looks goofy with the a2 lower senpai.

The later flash hider also looks wrong.
Even it it was issued to A1 rifles.
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>>33098766
>Unreinforced rear lower
>not an A1
>complains about A1 FH, and demanding prongs

learn to AR bro, Also
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It's just so fucking ugly. I understand it's actually a decent pistol for the price tag, but the sight of it is disgusting
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>>33096788
>recoil is unpredictable

What the fuck does this even mean?
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>>33095830
$200 Canadian dollarydoos
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>>33099104
Nah, CZs used to be decent for the price tag.
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>>33095186
Sig p238. Why? I have almost been shot by one on at least four or five separate occasions. Also, when you work at a gun shop you hear a lot of fucking retarded shit from customers. I have yet to warm up to the many annoying, but well meaning assholes who enthusiastically express their loves for this "good little shooter." Fuck them all, fuck them all. The more people like this gun, the more I fucking hate it.
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>>33095480
lol, taco tits.
One of the few tripfags worse than the current batch of dingleberries.
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>>33095480
When in doubt, slap wood furniture on it. It'll make you seem less "edgy" to no funs and fudds.
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>>33097040
>A1 or A2 AR15s
>shit

kys

>hating because fan base
What fan base?

>uninspired and boring

Same could be said for most other guns.
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>>33096788
>I've never held a gun before: the post
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>>33099319
Piss off the same guy four or five times or just live in New Hampshire?
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>>33096788
>Recoil is unpredictable
Yeah, I just go with the AWP unless i'm on CT.
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>>33099469
hmm? NH? naw. Just a lot of assholes around here seem to like that little pocket gun.. and seem also for some reason to share terrible weapons handling practices and bad, bad judgment and a distinct lack of courtesy ..
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>>33095480

AR15s, and most importantly. Their owners.

>Work at a gun shop
>Tax return niggers everywhere
>AR15 babies
>The occasional person comes in looking at our Milsurp
>Guy is looking at a Krag we had in stock
>AR15 faggot butts in
>WELL WHY DON'T YOU BY AN AR15 YOU CAN DO <<All this tactical shit no one will ever do.>>
>I just want one because I like the history behind them.
>AR15 guy keeps blabbering on
>THATS AN OUTDATED CARTRIDGE, LOOK HERE ON AMMOSEEK YOU COULD GET A BUNCH OF 223 FOR THAT PRICE
>Krag guy attempts to ignore him
>You can switch out all these accessories and get all this aftermarket stuff!
>Finally have to ask the AR15 fag to leave him be.
>This happens every 1/3rd time someone is looking at an older rifle or any AK variant.

I get some of you faggots like ARs, but man. Shut the fuck up.
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>>33099565
Doesn't this mean you hate AR fanboys though? Or has your hate for AR's grown due to these experiences?
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Kimber anything.
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>>33099565
I work at a gun counter too. Sounds to me like you are low-test and don't project much of a presence in the room. What fucking state do you work in?
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>>33099047
That's not an A1 lower.
Pic related is an A1 lower.
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>>33099601

I've shot a few ARs, However they've all been lower ones like Deltons and the M&P Sport 2. Just wasn't a fan of them, but their owners have certainly ruined it further for me.
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>>33095261
Hey man, the late 80s and early 90s SHO was legit as fuck.
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>>33095847
Ivan? Is that you?
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>ARs
>Glocks
>milsurp

To be honest I don't hate the guns as much as the over-the-top hype they generate.
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>Anything made by Ruger
Caters to lowest common denominator fudd trash. Muh warranty is not a feature it is shit QC on shit guns.

>Anything made or imported by Springfield
Even more antiquated fudd trash. Le grip safety ids lige a 19 leven!! M1A is outdated garbage. Saint is a joke. Just buy a fucking Anderson for $499 if you have to be a cheap faggot.

>Anything made by Colt
Hurr durr muh heritage. Muh 1800 dollar series 80 M45 with a worse trigger than the Dan Wesson ECO next to it in the case for $500 less. Muh 6920, muh C stamp, muh COLT BARRELS, muh 10.5 the list goes on ahahahah muh Colt EXPANSE. Cannot wait until the next round of Bankruptcy puts them in the ground permanently

Other manufacturers into the trash because reasons
>Remington
>Olympic Arms
>Walther
>Smith and Wesson semi auto pistols
>Bottom of barrel AR part manufacturers
>Century Arms International
>SIG Sauer
>DPMS
>Bushmaster


Patricians choice
Glock
Centurion
Larue
Sako
Cesar Guerini
Dan Wesson
Mega Arms
Vltor
KAC>LMT
Tikka T3X CTR best offering for 1k
CMMG is a solid manufacturer
CZ
Benelli
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>>33100117
>glock yes
>sig no

You're a special kind of retarded, ain't ya
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>>33100117


Goddamn Anon, I didn't know a ruger employee fucked your mother.
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>>33099415
Where'd you get that wood?
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>>33100117
Holy shit mien nigger, fully agree with all of your brand criticism
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>>33099632

Yeah nigga, better stand up and yell at a customer for trying to convince someone to buy another gun

great business practice, fucking cucks
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>>33100491
Your brain is over-active, no sane person would think I implied anything of the sort. Fucking faggot
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>>33095186
>Ugly
>Boring
>Really fucking ugly
>Sooo fucking boring
>It's fans are fucking retarded
>SO FUCKING UGLY
>SO FUCKING BORING
>SUCH SHITTY FANS
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>>33100675
it really is ugly and boring, and truly does have the most autistic following
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>the AR15
the honda civic of rifles. i.e. it is for tryhard peasants

Everyone has one, they're cheap, they're not bad performing, but the aftermaket is utterly obnoxious and even if you want whatever the "daily driver" equivalent is to a rifle, there are thousands of better, AND cheaper options. As in, options that are both better and cheaper at the same time.

Especially so if you live anywhere other than the southern US. In cali, everything about an AR is banned by name. In Canada, it's on the restricted list. In Europe, there are simply more prolific rifles, assuming ARs aren't also banned for whatever reason. So on, so forth.

Much like you're a peasant for not going full Integra or Fairlady, why the fuck aren't you getting a Tavor or PS90 if you wanna be a tacticool mallninja oper8or? And much like you don't want a civic over a truck, van or jeep for work, why aren't you getting a Mini 14, some generic 30-06 fudd rifle, or a shotgun for hunting over an AR?

literally anything you want an AR for, something else does it better. the only reason to get an AR is for branding, and the only people who respect that branding are other shitters who adore ARs for no clear reason other than that they are ARs.
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>>33100708
>started reading
>southern cali
>stopped reading
fuck you faggot
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>>33099632
>he literally says he has to (and subsequently does) ask other clients to calm the fuck down once it appears that they are bothering another client enough to prohibit a sale

>"LOL LOW TEST FAGGOT NO PRESENCE AT ALL"

typical arfcom faggot
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>>33100731
how upset are you right now on a scale from 1-10? be honest.
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>>33100726
I really do wonder why cali is so obsessed with the things. It must be a childish "i cant have it so i NEED it!" thing.

If you can't have ARs, why not just get literally any similarly performing and handling rifle?

Also I bet you think I live in SoCal because I mentioned cali at all. Because you are yet another salty arfcom shitposter who thinks their black rifle is the end-all-be-all of firearms, and is absolutely fucking triggered by the sheer mention of any state other than whatever happens to have the loosest CC laws this week (even though OC accomplishes more of what CC fanboys seem to want done)
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>>33100747
hey there partner, watch where you point the you's in your (You's)
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>>33095186

Glocks

They're boring and feel like dogshit to use.
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>>33097040

no
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anything using the typical ar15 meme grip (you know the hand grip) is shit because its at a garbage angle and is unergonomic as fuck

in general, everything styled after or drawn from the ar15 platform is distinctly unpleasant to handle.
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>>33100740
7 but im usually at 8 or 9 2bh im just angry all the time

ive grown to view basically everything popular as cancerous, because it usually turns out to be

see also: most memes, anime, bumper stickers, etc.
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>>33100785
so to follow up, your shit's all gay and you sound retarded: what's next for you?
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>>33097348
>Overpriced for a .380
>Posts a 9mm
Ok? Are you sure that's right?
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>>33100810
>what's next for you?
going to the coast to sail for "training" and basically just sleep all day and hopefully avoid doing anything at all since I don't have my NETP package on hand (not that theres anything to do on it anyway that hasnt been done already) and am fucking sick of showing people how to put on firesuits when its literally just a normal outfit but big
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>>33099319
I shot it. It was good and little
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>>33100867
youre good and little
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>>33095220
But if you imagine it's actually a full power cartridge it's amazing.

>Pew! Pew!
>Real NATO!
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>>33095480
Im the same way about japanese cars.
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>>33097698
Literally, perfect.
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>>33095856
Your stepdads gun was assembled poorly. My dad has a similar setup and i would shoot quarter size groups at 100 yards and play songs with swingers at the same distance. Havent shot it in 10 years because its boring af.
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>>33095993
Ive seen it happen at the range. I was actually shooting my buddys 500. Guy literally didn't empty the tube once
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>>33097009
This is what i like about my rami. I keep a 32 round mag along with my normal 12 rounders. Looks hilarious. I dont understand the sentiment that a small gun has to be single stack. Im very thin (28" waist) and have never had a problem concealing.
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>>33097106
This
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>>33097348
Looks better
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>>33097141
>pick
Maybe you should spend more time paying attention in class, son.
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>>33100708
>honda civic
>tryhard
>an 18k car without bargaining

I'm pretty sure most people just buy Honda Civics because think "neat, it's an alright car with decent gas mileage".

How do you "try hard" for something you're pretty much only going to use for commuting?

Anyhow, AR 15s are more of the Ford Focus of cars. Cheap, reliable, and good handling. There's plenty of cheap parts for it and it's fairly common. But all together, it's not too impressive relative to more expensive models.

Also
>Mini 14
>aka jam-o-matic pseudo M14
>not something like the Keltec SU-16 which is far cheaper and more reliable
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>>33099104
Not even the sexy new one. Dropped.
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>>33095220
I personally enjoy the recoil over Muh ar15s, it's like getting a pat of freedom on your shoulder.
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>>33100117
Hating on Ruger and Sig while sucking Glock dick...
Gaston is that you?
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>>33099893
Kek
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>>33095186

I hate no guns. Even the shitty ones have a place in my heart
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>>33096393
This.
I love everything about the 92fs except the slide safety, and for me, it's a deal breaker.

I still keep a beat up one that I got at an auction for cheap to remind me of my Army days, but other than that, I wouldn't recommend one.

Can't tell you how many times while doing remedial actions that the safety would pop back onto safe, either using the over grip or slingshot grip.
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>>33095220

7.62×39 isn't even a stout recoil
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>>33095220
>recoil
>of a full size cartridge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuc5qxSYjUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXUlLIeNT6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cl9wE8JBgM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwQJyiKFqhA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qukk9sS4QYc

If rice farmers and chicks can handle the recoil, so can you.
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>>33102771
The last chick is actually good at controlling automatic weapons, though.
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>>33095186
The assault rifle 15. Nobody needs a gun that fires 100 clips in half a second and will explode a deer in half in one shot.
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>>33098412
Goddamn that's a sexy rifle.

What do I hate? Kriss Vector. It's so fucking ugly. I know it's a decent weapon with a lot of advantages (and I'm a hypocrite because I wouldn't turn one down) but goddamn I hate how it looks.
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>>33099108
It means that we are playing csgo.
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>>33100117
Sig is trash? You truly are a retard.
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>>33098389
>Implying anyone aspires to be like Chris Kyle

>That reaction pic.

Fuck off faggot.
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>>33100117
>Muh warranty is not a feature it is shit QC on shit guns.
I actually have to agree, just bought a 10/22 and the quality control is awful, disassembling it is just a huge hassle thanks to the awful spacing on everything and it is obnoxiously rattle-y out of the box.
It's a cheap gun and performs decently but I'd really rather have spent a bit more on something that doesn't feel like its held together by pipe cleaners and glue sticks.
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>>33100117
Don't forget colt with the
>muh m16a1 repro that costs more than A real vintage sp1
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I really hate the Luger. It's an ugly piece of shit with a weird af grip.

The C96 is beautiful and I wish they'd kept those instead.
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>>33095880
Honestly, I just hate MOBAs. I played League for a few weeks, going in optimistically, but the game just wasn't fun to me, and that soured my perception of all MOBAs. I almost skipped out on Overwatch for that reason. Luckily I got a chance to play a friend's copy and I really liked it.
/blog
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>>33095186

>cooks off
>jams so bad sometimes requires gerber
>5.56
>not an m240

i would have rather been issued an m60e4
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>>33096074

If mine came with an ATI Dragunov stock already should I just get a scope? Are the irons really that bad?
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I hate Glocks, but only really the 19 and 26. I say that because that's what I've shot, and holding a fullsize, somehow, didn't feel nearly as bad. I'd also even just put it down to Gen 3 and Gen 4, because the finger grooves are fucking stupid. I'd rather have a swappable front strap, at this point.

I think they have the worst ergonomics of any pistol I've shot. They feel way heavier than they are said to and should, and that's only amplified by feeling like you're holding a brick. They're blocky and thick, don't feel good to me to conceal, though I admit I'm a skinny skeleton man.

And I do admit it, as much a faggot it makes me, I am also really, really offput by how everyone pretends they're the end-all, be-all, cost-to-use solution for pistols, when there is clearly way, way, way better options for about the same price or just a little more. Even less. Especially out-of-the-box, brand new, compared to a new Glock where it isn't just a meme that you probably want different sights or something.

That said, I understand why they're important. I think some models of Glock might be OK, just haven't shot them. While they're generally ugly-ish, I think the long slide models can be really cool. I just really hate shooting or keeping them, personally. I'd rather have anything else. It's just, like, my opinion, man.
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I hate the M14 so much. It represents everything I hate about American gun culture.

>pointless aversion to progress
>pointless aversion to good ideas that didn't come from here
>hurr durr wood n steel
>insistance on Fudd stock long after everyone else had realized the future had a pistol grip
>bullying NATO into accepting 7.62x51mm and stymieing intermediate development for decades, for no justifiable reason other than "hurr muh stahpin powuh" then not even fulfilling our end of the deal by adopting the FAL
>obsolescent the day it was introduced
>had a more troubled and shitty development cycle than the F35
>idiots blindly defend it even though it was probably the worst rifle ever adopted by a major power for it's time
>tfw no sexy T48 AmeriFAL thanks to this hunk of shit

Even machinepuns are not enough to redeem this rifle.
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>>33104644
>I almost skipped out on Overwatch for that reason. Luckily I got a chance to play a friend's copy and I really liked it.
I know that feel. I dunno, MOBAs just feel like a stripped down RTS to me, and the whole appeal of an RTS (at least for me) is sending hueg waves of men and armor to certain doom. Just having one guy takes all the fun out of it.

But Overwatch is a lot of fun. I hope this trend of classic-style fun-focused arena FPS continues, I'm really sick of """realistic""" muddy brown CoD clones.
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>>33096788
>Hard to get a good sight picture
Put thing between other two things
>Recoil is unpredictable
Up
>Clunky mags
What does this even mean?
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>>33106331
>somehow uglier then a glock
>offers nothing new on the desgin
>shittiest trigger at launch, so much so S@W had to release updated versions with the trigger kit everyone replaced it with

the only reason its popular is it rode on the coat tails of being a smith and wesson product. I completely blame it for everyone and their mother making a glock clone now. Aside from the M&P the only one challenging glocks were XDs and those werent going anyway, but now? Ingenuity is dead in a sea of plastic and carbon copy glocks
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>>33098698
>buys $100 walmart shotgun
>is mad when it sucks
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>>33106524
>the only reason its popular is it rode on the coat tails of being a smith and wesson product.
I can lend some credence to this argument but i'm of the opinion that if you're buying a SW for anything other than a revolver you're doing it wrong
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>>33106625
>anything other than a revolver
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>>33095246
I weigh 110lbs and I can shoot my Nagant all day without issues, you sound like the worlds hungriest skeleton or a woman.
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>>33106524
this. I used to hate how glocks were everyones favorite thing to shill, and I always wanted something (american made) to knock them off their throne. Maybe a new 59 smith series or a colt all american or browning BDA.
then the M&P came out and it was ok, a little ugly for my taste, I think if they lost the rails it would be better but overall nice.
Now its spawned all other companies to give up making their beautiful stuff and just make glocks. Beretta, Hk, Sig Sauer. CZ.
Hell I respect taurus more for trying to make more innovative things these days
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>>33095220
>AK
>All the recoil
I'm 142Ibs and weak as shit and I can handle mine all day
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>>33106331
This exactly nails it for me. 2000%. I hate the people who play MOBAs, I hate how seriously they take everything, I hate how they treat shit. I'm not some faggot who cares about, or would ever use the words, "toxic community," but it just isn't fun. Stack it on that a strict, tiered meta, single character control, very specific, structured way everyone always figured out how to do everything every time sort of gameplay, and it's entirely unappealing.

It's like you get the worst parts of a fighting game community, alongside the most boring, tedious parts of an RTS. I see absolutely none of the appeal.

And it absolutely did stop me from trying Overwatch because of how many MOBA comparisons were being made. And while it does still have some aspects of one, it's really the basic, salvageable parts of one. I absolutely hope we keep to the speedy, fun FPS thing. I like realistic tactical shooters tons, but the current state of most of it is really fucking boring and antithetical to real innovation.

>>33106524
Yeah, I like the M&P and I still generally agree with this. The Shield was a great thing and kind of kicked off the single-stack 9mm game, which was good. However, there's so many shitty Glock clones, and these really, really didn't help with that. Some polymer pistols, like the PX4 or ostensibly the PPQ, have real innovative features or are at least above the cut. The M&P is part of the baseline, bare-bones clone lines, in some sense, and that does suck. I'm absolutely sick of striker-fired polymer pistols, that's for damn sure.

>>33106625
see
>>33106725

I blame the polymer shit for this. It went down around the Sigma line. They used to be amazing for automatics, I still love my 5906, it's one of my favorite pistols. I really wish they had continued some form of metal-framed automatics, but we're where we are. I guess that's another reason to resent the M&P.
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I know people are gonna say "bait xDD" but hear me out. I only hate the gun because of the dumb decisions that were made because of it. It was a great gun up to the Korean war, but by that point we should've already adopted the hi-power.

That was bad enough, but fast forward 40 years later and you have the muhreens insisting on buying new 1911s that they knew wouldn't perform as well as the M9, P226 or Glock because "muh .45, it's worked this long!"

At the same time, I think it's incredibly dumb to hate a product because of people spouting off and doing stupid shit relating to the product, so I'm probably just a huge hypocrite.
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The M9 and any variant of it. The open barrel really bothers me and every time I've fired one its jammed every other round.
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>>33096201
>The delayed blowback fucked up your bullets causing to jam more often.
lever delayed blowback is a fine system, the problem lies with the fact that they developed it for a specific type of ammunition, steel case and a certain bullet weight. NATO gave them different ammo that didnt work. the A1 model fixed all that
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>>33107162
I'm assuming your experience has been with issued ones? There's a reason the army is replacing them, they're old and beat to shit. Every issued AR I've used jammed all the time too, but it was literally cobbled together from old parts, receiver still had auto engraved on it.

I own a Beretta 92, its a great pistol, don't judge based on crap issued M9's.
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>>33095830
The fixed mag is the best part.
>incredibly low profile when prone
>don't have to worry about snagging on things with curved mag
>free from jams and other malfunctions due to fewer moving parts

Sure the blade bayonet is stupid but the pig sticker is kickass.
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>>33104718
The irons are awesome it's just that no one on /k/ can shoot.
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>>33106267
Obviously it's doing something right since it's still in service.
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>>33095186
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West German p226, not so much the gun (considering i carry my legion everyday), but the fanbase
>internal extractor is no better than the current production sig external extractor
>literally the same gun minus the rail and finish of the current production sigs
>b-but muh german magic
>b-but muh history
It's literally just a surplus gun. stop acting like you're rich and have some sort of unicorn when they're not even that uncommon.
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>>33099893
As the owner of a gen 2 SHO, I can confirm this.
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>>33100117

You're right about Ruger though
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>>33095186
Anthing Russian in origin

Not sure why
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>>33095200
>Judging all by one
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>>33095246
Still AR fuddboiis created 300blackout. It's nearly 7.62x39 worth. 7.62x39 creates more impact energy than .223rem. Suck it.
>6.5creedmore a thing!
Because 556nato isn't powerful enough.
>I declare win.
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Obrez. There are only so many mosins out there. Best to take care of them.
>>33095200
>SQUISHY SQUISHY SQUISHY
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Remington model 770

Everything about these is just half-arsed.
>sloppy bolt
>hollow clunky stock
>thin and sharp grip
>balance point is 3 inches from the muzzle
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>>33109498
I can think I can determine one.
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>>33107899

the fixed mag is fine but stripper clips are stupid and clumsy and you need to wear gloves with them unless you like uncomfortably sharp sheet metal biting into your skin
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>>33095830
Maplenigger rifle
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>>33096788
Noguns please go
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>>33095589
>CZs are fine if a bit uninteresting
As a CZ fanboy i find them Very interesting.

Im a firm believer in you shoot what makes you happy. Own a glock? Fine. Own a 1911 (I do as well)? Fine. FN? HK? Springfield? Fine. But if youre one of those insufferable faggots that sits there and does nothing but shit on someone because of the gun they Own, then youre the fucking problem because i can guarantee you i can find a picture of ANY gun you own thats gone to hell.


You can only Un-ironically shit on guns like the Hi-point, Jennings, Raven ETC ( saturday night specials, and Kel-Tecs
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>>33107923
>Obviously it's doing something right since it's still in service.

The Lee Enfield, Mosin, and SKS agree
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>>33097348
A P238 does beat a Colt Mustang though.
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>>33100227
Tenderly, he did.
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>>33099893
>early 90s SHO
my dude
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>>33095830
>>33096074
>tfw the gun show last weekend had NORINCO SKSs
>tfw they were Bubba'd to all hell and back
>$950 for one
>$900 for the other

>There was a practically untouched NORINCO
>$750
>Finger fucking it a bit wondering what in all fuck makes this mother fucker think he can sell this shit for sevun fiddy
>"Hey there, you looking for an SKS?"
>"yeah, but not a Chinese. Ive had a Chinese before."
>"But have you had a NORINCO before?"
>this mother fucker
"Yes, ive had a NORINCO before. Its not like ALL chinese SKS were fucking Norincos or anything."
>Looks like at me blankly before walking away.


Fucking Gunshow vendors are some of the worst mother fuckers in the gun industry.
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>>33095186
A lot of Fudds have turned on Remington after that hit piece 60 minutes did about Remington 700's "going off for no reason"
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>>33113923
There is nothing wrong with hi-points.
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>>33096201
>>33107298
Damn it you niggers barely know anything about the FAMAS now.
>Le steel case may may
>Muh bullet weights
>Can't install optics
1. Steel case ammunition (F1A, F2/F2A) is no longer issued, all current FAMAS F1s are issued brass case (F5) SS109 ammunition imported from Britain because the frogs can do fuck all with ammunition quality.
2. All barrels have been replaced with a 1:9" twist rate and can reliably shoot both M193 and 855/SS109 ammunition as standards.
3. It can mount optics just fine and the FAMAS carry handle can be removed or replaced with one that has a lower height, as well as it now yses pictanny rails instead of weaver rails.
4. The F1s magazines were designed with no mind to NATO STAGNAG compatibility because France had quite NATO at the time.
Tl:Dr Rifle is fine, blowback system is fine, FAMAS is fine. All of her problems are associated with France shit quality control at the time.
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>>33113879
I've honestly never had a problem but you can load it through the bottom if you only want to load like six rounds in at a time.
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>>33095186
all of these pieces of shit

they're ugly as fuck and as reliable as an SD
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>>33100675
I could forgive that if they could give it better ergos or a better stock trigger, or lower the price, but they wont even after like 30 years
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>>33106267
This.

And it's a horrendous gun in the field. It jams just going outside.
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>>33106267

and we didnt get this, either, yet we got this piece of shit (m14)
>slated to replace the m-16 by the 1990s

> m14 basically a BAR
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>>33106267
I came here to post this.
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>>33097348
You can just get it without the ambi safety.
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>>33106267
I love the fuck out of my chink M14 but I have to agree with all your points.
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>>33100954
.22lr is one of my favourite caliber to shoot. Love my 10/22
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I hate guns because I can't kill myself with them without making gun owners look bad.
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Faggots version of fn fal
>need gorilla hands to properly operate while prone
>recoil is sharp
>retarded rotating sight
>stupid stamping makes it timeconsuming to clean
>have to drop and slap it all the time
>Stock isnt a separate part
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>>33095220
>>33095246
>>33095383
What's it like being this weak and dumb? Do you survive on your own or are you a ward of the state?
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>>33099643
That's an XM16E1 partial fence lower you buffoon
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>>33098104
How big are these targets?
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>>33095431
An appeal to society or culture? Reductio ad populum
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>>33113850
My fatherinlaw bought one of these for my wifes first deer rifle about a month after i started dating her, i begged him not to and after handling a few of the bolt guns that i bought and sold (most cost about the same and were only lighlty used) she doesnt want to hunt with it anymore.
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>>33114508
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>>33118189
t. Manlet

here's your (You)
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>>33111193
Why would you care about the most over rated, often garbage rifle produced? They're a dime a dozen.
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>>33119713
There's more than enough obrezs out there already, I'm sure. There's no point to an obrez anyway. No capacity, no accuracy, and it looks like shit. It's essentially an EOKA pistol with a fire-round internal magazine.
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>>33096393
Please don't bully my gun ;_;
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>>33118244
This

The recoil from an AK isn't bad at all. It was the first gun I shot and I was 14 at the time. I was scared as fuck thinking it would knock my ass down or something but it was the most controllable rifle I have shot to date.
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>>33118734
that would be a 10/10 police report to read after the fact, and one of the most interesting self defense trials ever
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>>33102771
that rice farmer literally couldnt handle the recoil though. it nearly knocked him on his ass
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All of them. I chose guns as an interest in this lifetime because I had prior knowledge that four men will try to and will kill me at the end of my life but I'm not going down without a fight

The reason I hate them most is because my son chose them as an interest in the previous life

I hate my son
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Light sabers
There stupid
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>>33100227
I did, shitty lay

t. Ruger employee
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>>33106267
>complains about wood and steel
>proceeds to want gun that has wood and steel
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>>33095186
Surprised no one posted this yet.

I don't hate it, but it feels lacking relative to the role it was put in. Something as simple as a larger mag or even a drum magazine would've made it better.

Also the later versions were fuck all heavy for little gain.
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