Just bought my first 1911, how'd I do?

Nice 1911. You did an outstanding job!

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>>33080367
Thanks, Springfield makes a nice 1911.

What ever you do, do not, DO NOT idiot scratch it. Look up videos on it OP, if you are autistic, it will ruin it for you. Enjoy!

>>33080788
I notice there is a slight one already, now that I look at the image closer. ; ;

I thought the 1911 was made by Colt, what happened?

>>33080006
Throw it out.
Garbage gun/10
There are reasons why cops, special forces, soldiers and competition shooters don't use it

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>>33080874
What if I bought it because it looks and feels nice?

>>33080805
The patent expired like 100 years ago. Now they're made by colt, Springfield, Ruger, les, rock river, psa, sti, taurus, Sig, kimber and a thousand other companies

>>33080967
rip, thanks for info

>>33080006

Better than any Kimber, Colt or Ruger. It's a good start.

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>>33081005
What's wrong with Ruger and Colt?

>>33080556
>>33080006
those nee a swastika inlet into those grips to be nice.

>>33081028
They are made by ruger or colt

>>33081028

Better than doesn't mean there is something wrong with the other options. Kimber is over priced shit. Colt is over priced and is a shitty company to deal with. Ruger is good for the money but isn't the same quality as Colt or Springfield.

>>33080788
Not OP, but I saw the warnings in the YouTube videos and STILL ended up scratching my SS TRP.

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>2017
>still buying 1911s

Shiggy

>>33080874

Chris Kyle used a Springfield 1911 in the sandbox. How many confirmed kills do YOU have, Mr. War Hero? Are you aware stolen valor is a crime?

>>33080006
If the serial doesn't start with "NM", ya dun goofed.

>>33082706
>Are you aware stolen valor is a crime?


Didn't stop that lying faggot Chris Kyle.

>>33082689
>Not liking style.
My 1911 is my belt gun when open carry is appropriate. It's a handsome sidearm.

Now, I would take my Px4 to a fight over my 1911, but it doesn't look as nice.

Nicely done.

Solid multipurpose weapon.

>>33080788
A lot of times, it seems like you can avoid idiot scratching if you are patient, and not heavy-handed with reinserting the slide stop.

>>33083948
>a handsome sidearm
fucking tacticool mall ninjas

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>>33084560
This your first day posting son?

>>33084076
>>>33080788
>A lot of times, it seems like you can avoid idiot scratching if you are patient, and not heavy-handed with reinserting the slide stop.


Exactly this. My first gun was a 1911, and I still haven't put an idiot mark in it. Patience is key.

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>>33080006

It's addicting OP

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>>33083558
yup.

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What's wrong with Colt?

Also, good looking Springfield anon.

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>>33080006
loose the grip panels

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OP here, quick question.

How long before I have to give her maintenance? In other words, are there any things they'll need to be replaced after a certain round count?

>>33080006
What model is this?

>>33085745
On 1911s always have a spare recoil spring. 16-18lbs progressive would be best for run of the mill ammo.

I change mine out every 3000-4000 rounds. It is one of the weak points of the 1911 and often the cause of headaches. Spring technology sucked back then and that long thing spring is not something that would be designed today but a reminent of the past.

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>>33080874
But cops, special forces, soldiers and competitors do use them...

>>33085779
Interesting, is that the inly thing that'll need replacing?

3k to 4k rounds is alot of rounds, doesn't seem too bad.

>>33085774
Springfield Mil-Spec

>>33085792
grizzly adams did have a beard

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>>33080006
ya did good OP check out my "GI" model (discontinued) made in 2004 - love springfield

>>33085745

It's not really necessary.
Even a very weak and old recoil spring can still get the gun into battery.
You can replace springs about every 5,000 rounds if you want.
That's pretty standard for handguns.

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>>33085814
>>33085848
>>33085779

By the way, in comparison how long does a Glock 19 recoil spring last?

>>33085893

Glock recommends you replace it once every 4k to 5k rounds last I heard.

>>33085745
The keys to many happy years with a 1911 are making sure the extractor is tuned and using magazines with the appropriate feed lip shape for the ammo you are using.

Both of these will essentially eliminate the perceived issues with springs mentioned in >>33085779.

>>33085918
So basically the same shit? Or in other words, no big fucking deal.

>>33085951

Correct, my friend.

>>33085920
How do you know or make sure the "extractor is tuned?"

>>33085974

As long as it's ejecting well, then it's fine.
If you're getting failures to eject, it's probably the extractor.

>>33085974
The test is simple.

Field strip your slide and slide a live .45 round under the extractor. Give the slide a little shake. The round should rattle a bit but not fall out. If it falls out immediately then your extractor is too loose. If it's rock solid then it's too tight.

To tune, remove the extractor and insert it backwards with the claw groove up (to loosen) or down (to tighten) and set the slide flat on the end of a sturdy table. Push down on the extractor to deform it slightly. BEWARE, cheap MIM extractors are easy to break. Spring steel extractors are OKAY but they don't keep tune as well as tool steel extractors.

>>33085920

Yea, but a $15 dollar spring is good to have on hand to swap out if you do run into issues. It is a cheap diagnostic tool, and a bandaid fix if there is something wrong with the gun that was masked by a fresh recoil spring with some pep. I also religiously change springs on carry gun, because its just one less thing to worry about.

Depends on what the gun is being used for.

I am also one of those guys that religiously changes the oil on my daily commuter at 3000 miles and replaces parts early, and I have never had a break down on my econo-box as I roll 200,000 miles.

Just depends on your priorities

>>33080006
Pretty good if you like that style, Springfield does the best reproduction of the original for the money.

I like the ruger stainless 1911 better, I like the weaver three dot, modern hammer and beaver tail but I may get one like you to match my Springfield M1A That I have done up like an original M14.

>>33085836
If I'm really looking for dat ww2 style, is it worth tracking one of these down or just settle for the Mil Spec?

>>33085779
Doesn't a double spring setup alleviate a lot of those issues? I mean every 3k-4k rounds isn't troublesome or anything, just curious. Im realitvely new to the mechanics of the 1911 but I've got one headed my way soon

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>>33080788
>>33080800
>>33084076
>>33085262
Mfw my 1911 was my first gun, too, but I just noticed there is a very faint idiot scratch on it. Not all too noticeable, but it's there.
>>33081005
>>33081112
I got my Kimber on sale for about $700. It's performed pretty well so far

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No pistol here, what's the appeal of this gun? Why does everyone praise it so much?

I'm going to be 21 in 2 weeks, is this a good first pistol?

>>33087412
Just a bunch of circle jerking 2bh

>>33087412
Before you buy a gun to a range and test a few out.

My first was and still is my g23 I converted to 9mm. Also got an ad and xds as well as a cz p09. But I'm best with the glock cause I've practiced with it for ten years +

>>33080006
I don't like short triggers.

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>>33086596
Check out auto-ordnance 1911s. They're the only (new) 1911s on the market right now that are built to JMB's original blueprints (with the exception of the fact that they're 80s series). Everything else, including the arched mainspring housing, lanyard loop, etc. are identical to a GI issue 1911.

>>33087412
me and some friends from work took our no gunz coworker shooting one saturday. He got to shoot the following
>M&P performance center 9mm
>SIG 226 Legion 9mm
>Springfield Milspec 1911, the basic one
guess which one he loved? the 1911

>>33089655
The "original" isn't the -A1, though.

>>33080006
Could have bough RA, cheaper but the same quality.

>>33089655
Holy shit, thank you so much, I didn't know about this.

>>33083558
Care to explain why?

>>33089924
BAIT

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>>33080006
Why did you buy an outdated and tactically obsolete pistol? The 1911 is 100 years old. Sure it looks beautiful. So do swords. But we are long past the age of swords.

What are you going to say when your grandkid asks you what guns you used in your day? "I actually used a gun from 100 years before my time. I was born in the wrong generation, sonny boy. Are my memes still hip?"

You're going to sound like a fool who rejected the times he lived in. You should have gotten a gun that defined YOUR era.

>>33081005
>>33081112
>there are people in this thread who actually think that Springfield 1911s are better than Colt 1911s

The slide and frame of your Springfield are forged in Brazil and assembled in the United States. They do just enough that the gun can be labeled as "made in America" and sold at an American price point rather than a Brazilian one. If you exercised due diligence and know that Springfield is an importer and NOT a manufacturer--they do not make guns themselves--you would know this is the case.

>inb4 b-but Colt is shit!

They're overpriced due to having a horse on the gun, but they're not shit.

>>33089655
I heard these had QC issues. Confirm/deny? Also, those grips are hideous...

>>33087412
>what's the appeal of this gun? Why does everyone praise it so much?

The appeal of the 1911 is that it is distinctly American. It was designed by America's most famous gun designer, is chambered in an American caliber (and not a European one like 9mm), and helped to win the two World Wars and countless other conflicts both small and large in the 20th century. It is to its era what the 1873 Colt or Kentucky Rifle were to theirs.

>is this a good first pistol

If you try one out and find that you like it? Absolutely. I know quite a few people who, when getting into guns, allowed themselves to be convinced out of buying what actually interested them in favor of getting a Glock 19 or some other allegedly utilitarian handgun. Without exception, all of them regretted doing so and, once they had more experience, learned to stop caring about the whole "tactical mindset" thing and stuck with the things they liked.

>>33090366
Mine's a piece of shit. The finish started flaking off the second time I shot it.

Don't give your money to the Moonies.

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>>33090418
>allowed themselves to be convinced out of buying what actually interested them in favor of getting a Glock 19 or some other allegedly utilitarian handgun

Well let me say that I fell for the 1911 meme hard when it was time to buy my first pistol.
I bought a Springfield 1911. It was a good gun, but I ended up getting a Glock 17, and I realized where it's at. The reliability, the advantage of 9 more rounds, the low bore axis, etc etc, Once I understood the simple internals of the Glock, and the outdated internals of the 1911, I could see the Glock was a better gun.
Now I only own the Ruger SR1911, and it's a great gun to shoot. I've only shot Wolf ammo out of it, but it has had a few malfunctions (very aware it's probably the ammo), the magazines I use are Kimber. To me, knowing the internals, there's just too much stuff to go wrong compared to a Glock. If I'm betting my life, it's going to be with a Glock.

In my opinion to get the 1911 up to par with the reliability of a Glock you'd have to spend a lot of time and money on customization, mainly new parts, custom fitting, etc etc, whereas with a Glock I can pay $500 and get a pistol that I know is going to work every time.

I took my friend out to the range the other day and let him shoot both. He enjoyed the 1911 far more than he did the Glock. No one can deny the 1911 has a great trigger, feels powerful in your hands, and is the epitome of "paw's pistol" hidden in the closet in a shoe box. The Glock feels like a plastic toy almost, but it's been proven it is no toy. Once I showed him the internals of both he decided Glock is the way to go.

>>33090522
You are absolutely correct that a 1911 requires more knowledge and effort to maintain and use than more modern offerings like a Glock. For someone who needs a decent handgun for self-protection and doesn't have the time/interest of someone enthusiastic about guns, a Glock is far better than a century-old pistol that weighs 45 oz. loaded. To put it another way, where Glock is the gun equivalent of an Apple product, something like a 1911 is a user-built PC running Linux.

That said, one thing

>In my opinion to get the 1911 up to par with the reliability of a Glock you'd have to spend a lot of time and money on customization, mainly new parts, custom fitting, etc etc

This is not the solution to the problems but actually the cause of them. In the second phase of its adoption trials, the 1911 went over 6000 rounds with no stoppages of any kind. It is a fundamentally reliable handgun, even by modern standards--but only when it hasn't been mucked up by unnecessary additions or modifications that detract from the actual function of the gun. These deviations from the JMB's original design are in many cases the product of marketing teams looking to prey off of selling gimmicks to the ignorant and are the second most common source of problems with a 1911, right behind bad ammo.

>>33090607
Also, a very relevant video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVXOj9Uc5pg

>>33090522
The 1911 has fewer moving parts than a Glock though...

>>33090522
Glocks are for lowest common denominator retards such as yourself, so it suits you

>>33080006
Noice.

>>33090647
That's bullshit m8

>>33085893
changing springs is a meme

I've never changed springs on my handguns and they all work fine

>>33090522
no, the super tight fits are the reason they jam/fail to go into battery

it's why the RIA can run dirty as shit while in a mud pit and the Wesson needs to be cleaned after a few hundred rounds

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>>33090522
>Once I understood the simple internals of the Glock, and the outdated internals of the 1911, I could see the Glock was a better gun.

Person who's detail stripped a 1911 before here, I think you're a retard. There's maybe nine or so parts on the entire gun that come apart, and I could detail strip it and have it back together in maybe twenty minutes with tools and a schematic nearby. It's an elegant design under the hood that's simple and easy to understand once you've seen it yourself (Which I doubt you have).

I can't say much about the GLAWK under the hood though, seeing as I don't own one and never have, and even if I do pick one up it's going to be a Gen 2 example for those 80's aesthetics.

So what's the best 1911 under $1k? Springfield? S&W?

>>33080006
regret the fact that you purchased the worst 1911 in the market

>>33091983
The best new 1911 under $1k? A Colt Competition Government is under $900, and it's a pretty fantastic gun even before you consider its comparatively low price point.

>>33092384
>the worst

newfag plz go

>>33092527
Those are in the high $900s on Buds. Where are they under $900?

>>33092384
>not understanding how 1911's work
The worst is still better than a glock

>>33092637
Are we looking at the same gun?

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/4250/COLT+O1980CCS+COMP+GOVERNMENT+45+5

also

https://grabagun.com/colt-firearms-1.html

https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/171988

>>33092708
Thanks m8, didn't see that one.

>>33092384
Springfield makes some of the best 1911s you stupid autist

>>33089655
>series 80
>A1

Original...

Are you a fag?

Having a dick in your butt doesn't make you straight just because you are have told yourself you are.

>>33091526
Hahaha hahahaha

Keep telling yourself that. My Les Baer will whoop your RIAs ass in any failure test.

Poorfag

>>33082689
It seems so streamlined for CC

>>33091075
Sorry for the late response, was busy.

Many of the Glock's parts are assemblies, so that "33 parts" thing is bogus. The "trigger and trigger bar" which is listed as a single part is made up of 4 parts. The recoil spring assembly is 3 parts on older guns and 5 on newer dual-spring ones. The slide stop lever is listed as as a single part but has both the lever and a spring. The trigger assembly housing has the steel ejector integrated into its polymer construction. The front and rear sight are listed as parts 15 and 15a respectively. And the magazine floor plate and magazine insert are listed as 31 and 31a respectively. That brings us to a grand total of 42 functional parts on the simpler older guns.

Of the 1911's 44 parts (including GI magazine) 10 of them are just related to the grips (2 grip panels, 4 grip screws, 4 grip screw bushings) meaning that only 34 of them are actually necessary to proper function.

What is the most mechanically simple, yet still military-usable, automatic pistol out there? Mechanical grace is my fetish.

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>>33080788
Idiot scratch reporting in.
Lucky for me this is one thing that doesnt trigger my autism.

>>33095706
Define "military usable". Militaries used pretty simple blowback designs through the Cold War, but even the hottest ammo used by them (.380 in the west, 8mm Makarov in the Eastern Bloc) are considered pretty anemic.

The hi-point C9 and the HK VP70 are both simple blowback guns in 9mm, but the latter has reduced muzzle velocity due to the rifling design.

>>33080788
IDIOT SCRATCHES CAN BE AVOIDED BY JUST PUSHING THE SLIDE STOP IN INSTEAD OF ROTATING IT

>>33095795
I was thinking something a military would consider adopting nowadays. Thank you for that though, now I have a rough metric of what is and isn't considered simple. I figured a VP70 would be on the simple end.

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Grandpa's Vietnam 1911

>>33096341
Nice airshit