milsurp rifles etc

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>>33060441

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>>33060456
Definitely needs a bath

>>33060441
From J&G? I saw them cheap. How is the action? The bore?

>>33060576
Was cheap. Action is really bretty smooth. Bore is ok. I might take better pics later. It's just really dirty

>>33060576
Forgot to say yes it is from j&g

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>>33060441
>post yours
Here's my Spanish Mauser.

Milsurp reloaders: what kind of bullets do you use? Lead to preserve the barrel? I want to shoot my old guns but I don't want to wear out the barrels

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Most recent acquisition is this Remington M1903. All correct parts, save for the upper handguard and trigger guard.

Receiver dates to June of '42.

>>33061050
>US weapon
>Correct parts
Lol, just lol.

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>>33060826
You aren't going to shoot it that much to destroy the barrel.

>>33061237
I don't understand.

>>33060826
Cast lead bullets are supposed to be pretty great, but I haven't used them personally. I might in the near future, though. Just to load some fun rounds.

>>33061302
American armories mix and matched parts like a motherfucker

>>33060441
How much? I saw a jew mauser at Dunham's for $500 about a year ago that was in that condition.
I offered the manager $300 for it and he looked confused. Said "our prices aren't negotiable". I told him they would never sell it at that price.
It's still there.

/blog

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>>33060441
Bought this a few days ago, not in a position to judge anyones life choices!

>>33061353
>How much? I saw a jew mauser at Dunham's for $500 about a year ago that was in that condition.
Yeah, about half of the Israeli Kar.98k in the States took a detour though Guatemala (or was it Belize) and look it.

>>33061288
If I shoot 250 rounds a year through a barrel that's good for 20000 rounds, I'll have shot it out in 80 years, then my grandkids will have to inherit a shot out rifle
>>33061302
I do hope you share your experience with lead bullets

>>33061353
It was $179 on J&G
Also, how to clean it? Apparently no mineral spirits in California. Would paint thinner work or would that be harmful to the bluing?

>>33061388
That's why you don't shoot it that often. You won't, because we all have lives and if we don't we have multiple guns.

>>33061427
>Also, how to clean it?

Honestly I'd just wipe it down with some Ballistol to get the dirty and grime off the wood and the metal, then put some gun oil on the metal and some linseed oil on the wood. Don't refinish it. Just clean it.

>>33061324
Well, yeah. Most countries did.

That's why it's noteworthy that the rifle is almost correct. I guess I should've also said that the rifle has no refurb marks. The hanguard is a '30s SA, and the trigger guard is also likely SA. Likely civilian replaced somewhere along the way.

>>33061465
I don't want to refinish it, I just want to get all that grease out of the action. Also Should I have the headspace checked? I mean they advertise these ones as shooters so it should be ok right?

>>33061431
I guess my point is that even with light use, the barrel will wear out eventually, and I really want to shoot my guns and keep them in good shape. Maybe I could reline the bore like people do with old broom handles when it gets too bad

>>33061492
>I just want to get all that grease out of the action.
then your usual gun cleaning solvent (Hoppes #9, whatever) should do the trick just fine. might have to clean it several times to get all of it out.

>Also Should I have the headspace checked?
certainly not a bad idea, and shouldn't cost much at a gunsmith.

>>33061388
I will if I go through with it.

Someone I know told me that a 165gr cast bullet on 14 grains of trail boss is a really fun light load for .30-06. I'd like to try that for dicking around with.

>>33061529
>14 grains of trail boss

Holy crap. Calling that a light load is a massive understatement. I use around 60 grains of 4350 in my .30-06 reloads.

>>33061492
>Also Should I have the headspace checked?
You'll learn just as much, if not a lot more by firing the gun once and inspecting the spent case.
>>33061519
The problem is finding an actual gunsmith, not a "gunsmith."

>>33061519
thanks pal I guess I'll go with that then
Thoughts on surplus 7mm mauser ammo? They gave me 100 rounds of the stuff

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>>33061427
The real question is how much rust does the batch j&g got have.

These samco rejects are rather ugly

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>>33061591
Or should I say 100 cartuchos

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>>33061497
Maybe you just shouldn't shoot it out in the first place? Trust me, you won't shoot it that much that it will need a new barrel.

>>33061574
Really light. He says almost no recoil, so I may experiment some and bump it up a little. I like at least some punch. I think it'll throw a 165gr bullet about 1100-1200fps.

We .30-06 pellet guns now.

>>33061611
I'm just paranoid of mechanical wear

>>33061050
how much anon..

I've been saving up so that maybe one day I could own a piece of American history

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I bought like 3000 rounds of pic related for my M1 at an LGS 15 years ago. Anyone know what it is? This is my last En-Block of it. I dont even know if its surp ammo. Head stamp says something like USCCO 18

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>>33061603
>Round nose 7mm

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>>33061603
I have like 250 rounds of surplus 7mm cartuchos de guerra and have no rifle to shoot them with

>>33061727
>USCCO 18
United States Cartridge Co., Lowell, MA

Probably M1906 ball from 1918.

>>33061727

It's probably WW1 30-06 made by the US Cartridge Co

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>>33061736

>104 year old ammo

>>33061766
>>33061772
Oh fuck, w...was that stuff worth something?

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>>33061773

>>33061741
Can I buy them off you then?

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>>33061773
>only 104

>>33061788
Was.

>>33061816
How much? Fucking christ I shot 3000 rounds of it.

>>33061716
I feel you. I wanted an '03 for years before I got lucky, so keep your eyes open and stay patient.

Anyway, story I guess.

>82 year old relative loves guns
>Served in the Navy
>Ended up wealthy in real estate
>As a result, has asshole entitled children
>Who don't like guns, or him for that matter
>I do some work for him around his place, and one day he shows me his guns
>Mostly hunting guns, and one fine as fuck '03
>Tell him how cool the rifle is, and tell him some things about it
>My [limited] knowledge seems to impress him, but I think nothing of it
>Go back over there a few weeks later to clean his gutters
>He calls me in his room
>"I want you to have this, I know you'll take of it."
>Gives me the '03


>This is what dreams are made of.

>>33061871
>I know you'll take of it

Take care of it, even.

>>33061827
Not a lot. Maybe $1/round.

>>33061979
>I shout 3,000 dollars worth of WW1 .30-06
Im...Im gunna go lay down

>>33061998
How much did you pay for it?

>>33062001
I payed 270 I think for it, nearly 90% of it was on En-Blocks.

>>33061998

That's ok, I shot 8 or 9 boxes of Pre WW2 Polish 8mm ammo once, only to later find out that I could have sold it for much, much more then I paid.

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>>33061806
You in TX?

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>>33061998
>>33062031
Do you people not even look at the ammo you buy?

>>33062617

I didn't think the 8mm was anything special, I paid like $7 a box from some little family owned gun shop.

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>>33062633
Just because someone is ignorant about it doesn't mean you need to be just as ignorant. Pretty much ALL military ammo made before WWII is on the rare side.

how shit of a deal is this


https://www.classicfirearms.com/m9848-5rd-surplus-yugo-mauser

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>>33062771

You're right, and I'm not trying to justify what I did. I was just getting into milsurp collecting at the time and had no clue what I was doing really, I felt pretty fucking stupid once I realized what I had. At the time all I cared about was getting to shoot my 98k I had bought myself as a graduation gift.

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>>33062813
Not as shit as some of Classic's recent "deals", but mediocre at best.

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since we're in a headstamp thread....

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rarest ammo i ever shot.

no reloading, no regrets. somewhere i have a video.

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I also shot 2 packs of this

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i shot these fuckers too

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>>33063228
for reference

>>33060441
looks a bit crusty anon, what caliber and how much? not sure if i trust the 308 conversions

>>33060826
i doubt you can afford to wear out the barrel or shoot with enough frequency and have the time to send 10-15,000 rounds down range with a single milsurp

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i bought another 71/84 yesterday.

1888 Spandau, just like my first one, but much nicer and 100% matching. $325 (first one cost me $430).

So i have a piece of shit 71/84 for sale. $350. Im willing to take a loss just to make room in the gun safe.

>>33061388
if you can afford the 20,000 rounds of rifle caliber ammo, you can afford the $50-200 for a new barrel

the only guns you should be concerned about shooting are ones that have such a high money value they cant be replaced. and even then, the barrel is not going to be the first part that wears or breaks and destroys the value

>>33061998

I shot a box of WWII production German 8mm. We all goof

>>33061427
take it apart, scrub the wood with soap and water and a brush, let it dry, oil, lightly sand with high grit, apply more oil or finish of your choice

disassemble all metal components, soak in solvent of your choice, scrub with toothbrush/rags, light super fine steel wool if surface rust. oil and reassemble. congrats, after a couple days of work you increased the value of your gun by $20. such is life of milsurp collecting

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>>33063382
How much do you think the german marked Steyr M95 ammo will be worth once all the poorfags finish shooting up all of it?

>>33062617
It was labeled as M1 .30 reloads or something when I bought it. I didnt think anything of it until I actually looked at the fucking stuff for more then 3 seconds. God damn Im fucking dumb

N on tang of nugget receiver. What does it mean?

>>33061497
if its your only gun, and you shoot it all the time with high frequency, then maybe i could see it being a concern. im sure when you are 80, you will have the money for more than one milsurp, and can afford to split your shooting time between guns

>>33063426
>poorfags buying all the Nazi-Marker 8x56r
Nigger I see that shit for 20 bucks a box all day, I dont think Poorfags can afford to shoot 8x56r

>>33061702
sorry, mechanical wear is a factor of mechanical equipment. no way around that. your life is too short and the gun will undoubtedly outlive your lifespan with just simple maintenance like new springs unless you are dragging it through a warzone shooting hundreds of rounds a day

>>33063185
where did you find it and \how many rounds? i have unconverted veterli REEEEE

you can still find it for cheap, i bought some recently for $5 a box

>>33063553
>>33063456
>>33063456

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>get into guns right after the milsurp bubble bursts
>really want a milsurp rifle but really can't find one that seems like it's worth the money
>new stock of Yugo Mausers come to Classic firearms
>450 bucks

fuck me. Best chance I've got is to hope that we get 'Nam milsurp (which is unlikely because you faggots didn't sign the FUCKING PETITION)

>>33060441
Where did you get it?
From the bottom of a bog?

>>33062771
Where do you get 5 shot clips for that? I just bought a berthier and all the clips I can find are 3 round

>>33063666
>implying that petition was ever going to pass

you're funny anon. People signed a petition for California to secede from the united States and we weren't lucky enough to have them leave either.

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http://www.gunbroker.com/item/619638434

I got outbid quite a while ago but the action is almost over.

Should I cave in and get it, or am I retarded for even considering it?

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http://www.gunbroker.com/item/621114863

>>33063666
I just bought one, thanks anon. I was looking for a mauser!

i thought the appeal of surplus was that it's supposed to be cheap

>>33063666

fuck i wanna buy one. I have an m48 but I want the m48/98.

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>>33064174
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/621114863
Christ, 2017 is the year of the m/39.

I should've shelled out that $300 for one back in 2012.

Ive got a 1942 Springfield Garand and looking at a 1903 next, should i get a springfield, or a remington dated 1942?

>>33063666
>tfw missed the $250 m48's that SOH had
J U S T

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>>33063971
About 4 or 5 years ago I lucked in a gun show that someone was selling them dirt cheap with late 40s dated ammo.

You can use the 5 round clips, just leave the last 2 rounds out of there.

Pics of your Berthier?

>>33060593
I'm glad to hear that. I ordered one, too. Mine is sitting at my FFL's shop waiting for my state-mandated waiting period to expire. I hope it's as nice as yours.

>>33062771
WANT

>>33061427
Which end of California, BTW?

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>>33065603
Got it for $370 at a gun show on Saturday.
>You can use the 5 round clips, just leave the last 2 rounds out of there.
I have the 5 round version, but all I can find are 3 round clips, which I know I can use, but it'd be nice to use the full mag capacity.

>>33065787
The 5 rounders are much easier to find. Doesn't Libertytree still have some?

>>33065866
Nope. Neither does Apex, Numrich, IMA, Gunbroker, or Armslist. If you know of a source, PLEASE let me know.

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My dream milsurp rifle is SMLE.
Whats a reasonable price for one at the moment and who currently makes the best .303 brit?

>>33065985
My FFL has a SMLE jungle carbine on sale for $400. The bolt is smooth as Billy Dee.

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>m1 carbine prices right now

holy fucking shit why are m1 carbines so fucking expensive?

>>33065985

I got a no4 mk 2 for around 350. so probably look in the 300-500 range.

>>33066084
it's literally meme tier anyways.

>>33064174
what the fuck is going on

>>33065985
I have a crazy accurate no1 mk3 from Lithgow if that helps.

Have yet to check if it has a heavy barrel, but it seems capable of 1MOA from the bench.

If you didn't know Lithgow was the only lee enfield manufacturer that made heavy barrel no1 mk3.

>>33063287
Where are you located? I've always kind of wanted one just for a wallhanger.

>>33060441
It's ok nigger. I can't judge, I bought a mosin for $279 when I turned 18 for absolutely no reason, I could have gotten a yugo mauser for the same price. I still kick myself for that but I love my mosin.

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Was just given this yesterday. It's my first rifle of any kind. Where do you guys get your ammo? Local surplus stuff? I'm learning that the days of cheap 7.62x54r are gone. Just my fucking luck.

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>>33066003
Bullshit.

Nothing is as smooth as Billy Dee.

>>33061388
>thinking you'll be shooting until your 100
You'll get tired of shooting large bore guns in your 60s.

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>>33066361
That is a well-used 91/30 Anon. Nice.
>Where do you guys get your ammo? Local surplus stuff?
Usually the best deals on surplus x54R are to be found locally on the secondary market now.

>>33066361
ammoseek dot com
for all your ammo needs.

>>33066361
I can get all kinds of 54R at my local shops. Feels good man.

>>33066424
Thanks. I'm going to check the headspace on it before I fire it, as the bolt doesn't match. Debating between taking it to a smith or just ordering the gauges myself. I was worried at first because it took me about two hours and every technique I could find to get that front band off (you can see the ring where it was lodged), and I had to take a knife and scrape some wood out for the retaining spring to properly function, but things went smoothly from there.

Thinking about a Mauser. How are M48s? I hear they're a bit gritty compared to better Mausers and get sticky bolt like nuggets. The prices are still reasonable right now(300-400), but aside from that are they excellent rifles? I wouldn't mind paying a bit more for a yugo K98 or even going up to an original K98 if I ever had the patience.

Or perhaps I should hope I can find a great M39 for a fair price without killing myself.

I'm torn between a P-08, Mauser, or another M39 as my next purchase. Lugers are 100% on my list, but aren't really going up, so I can put that back if need be.

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Just picked up my K31 today. Got a troop tag in mine, yay!

Then when I tried to put the buttplate back on I found that it wasn't lining up flushly with the wood, so that there's a little gap at the bottom. Is this normal/fine? I don't want the trooptag getting damaged by water or something.

Also one of the screw holes had some kind of fucking wood thing inside of it, I guess the screw hole was stripped and someone (maybe the original guy) put some wood chips in there so the screw would have something to grab on to. It kinda fell apart when I took it out and the screw was loose, but I put a broken up toothpick in there and it seems alright now. Anyone else ever have to do it?

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Can Galil play milsurp?

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>>33066729

Pretty cool that I got one from a Gebirgsinfanterieman and not some supply company or something. But it shows, the stock isn't exactly spotless.

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>>33066681
>get sticky bolt like nuggets.
Nuggets only get sticky bolt when people fail to clean out all the cosmoline.

>>33066711
>>33066732
Nice Judenflinte

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>>33060441
My lovely m1 carbine

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>>33060441

>>33066953
Sticky bolt is not a cosmoline issue. Burs in the bolt head, tool marks in other contact surfaces in the bolt, bowed extractors, and rough chambers cause it in addition to cosmoline.

I've got a line on a 1898 Krag-Jorgensen for $1,000. Should I go for it? I can probably get it for less than that, if I talk to the right guy.

>>33067082
>Sticky bolt is not a cosmoline issue.

I can vouch for that. I disassembled and boiled my bolt to remove the cosmoline, then used heat, solvents, and power tools with rags to remove it from the chamber.
After spending days removing every molecule of cosmoline I oiled everything up and put it back together and it still feels like pounding a square peg into a round hole when I work the bolt.
I rarely shoot the piece of shit anyway. It gets 8 inch groups at 100 yards. I'd rather shoot any number of my other milsurp guns and get 1 to 2 inch groups all day.

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>>33063185
i was tempted for so long to do the same

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Apologies for shitty lighting. I'll try to get a better shot later.

Welp, the classic M48/98's sold out already. Dammit that was fast

How much do Kar 88 carbines usually go for?
>that bolt handle
>that stock
>8mm mauser

>>33061592
Is it confirmed J&G won the samco bid? I honestly thought classic would have.

>>33066003
>SMLE Jungle Carbine
wat

>>33068337

it's a cut down lee enfield for jungle combat. I think it was primarily used in Malaysia post ww2.

it's known as the lee enfield no. 5 or jungle carbine.

>>33068337
The Aussies made a few ver rare No6 carbines.
The US importers cut up a lot more No1s to make carbines and called them jungle carbines. Some of these were rechambered to .308 and are not safe to fire.

>>33068337
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_Carbine

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>>33068362
Thats what I figured you meant, I dont no why the "SMLE" nomenclature is associated with the No.1 and No. 4 type rifles are refereed to as that

>>33068368
>tfw no Aussie No 6. ever
>tfw no Shela GF

>>33063256
It's not a conversion. It's still 7mm

>>33063731
Your mother's womb

>>33065668
Bottom end. LA county

>>33060441
I am planning to pick on up soon, gotta get these things when they are available, wait too long and BOOM, bubbas personal hackjob turns up on gunbroker for 900 dollary-doos and regulars 500

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>>33063538
2 rounds out of an old guys collection, both shot fine, thing has the recoil of a .22

>>33066258
missouri

>>33061353
Damn.
You would think a Jew Mauser would be cheap!

And I'm done for the night.

>>33068260
Century bought all of SAMCO's stock.

>>33068124
What a waste of money. My friend got one last year for $350.

Anyone with a Type 38 Carbine: it has a different stock than the basic Type 38 doesn't it?

I can't find anyone selling a 38 carbine stock online so I can't be sure.

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I love this m91. I think I would sell my PU before I sold this.

>>33068124
Classic buyers are retards from what I have seen.

>sell russian capture,mismatched,counter bored,shitty bore,rough overall condition starting at $650
>people actually buy them

>>33070296
K98K's is what they were.

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>>33069766
Yes, the stock is a lot different.

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>>33070296
I bought an excellent condition all matching K31 from them for $350 at a time when Simpsons had exactly zero K31's, so I was OK with that deal.
>mfw the best groups I can get with any milsurp gun I own is with my K31

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>>33066361
Post pictures of your reciever, I'm interested in dates and manufacturers marks.

Just put my second Nugget on layaway last week. It's a 1922 Tula with the hex reciever. I'll see if I can dig up a better picture.

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>>33069766
Aside from the length difference you mean

>>33070551
Somebody should just repeatedly kick in the balls whoever had the idea of putting that fuckhuge ugly import mark RIGHT FUCKING THERE! They could have found a less conspicuous place to put a smaller import mark, and NOT one that looks like it was hammered out with a punch.
Hey Century, lasers do exist you know!

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>>33061385
The ones that didnt can be in gorgeous shape. Repeat posting my new BYF43 Israeli k98k

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>>33070726

>>33061871
Did you wink at him, say 'ill take care of it boss', and proceed to smash it with a hammer?

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Jesus fuck I need to stay off /ck/.

>>33070690
ATF mandates that. Century used to do it really small and out of the way in the barrel.

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>>33067432
Try not shooting shitty surplus ammo.

>>33070865
Eh. I've had sticky bolt problems with my PU. It is fine with surplus ammo but wolf sticks it up. Not sure why.

>>33070865
Try not being a fucking retard that assumes shit.
It gets 6 inch groups with the best 54r ammo I can find.
And just in case you are going to assume the barrel is shot out or the crown is fucked, neither is true. The bore looks brand new and the crown is perfect. It's just a shitty gun. Now, cockface, I'm not saying ALL mosins are shitty guns, but that one is.

>>33070969
Pretty sure Kaptainfuckface was talking about the 8 inch groups with his shitty ammo comment.

>>33070969
I never have any problems with my brass ammo in any of Mosins. Even my shitty 1943.

Getting a hex receiver tula m91/30 in a few days, anything to look out for? It's my first milsurp so I'm open to tips and hints.

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>>33070982
>the best 54r ammo I can find.
Which is...?

And no, I was saying it in regards to your sticky bolt. Poor ammo with a poor chamber will lead to hard extractions in any gun.

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>>33068124
I bought an M48 from AIM surplus last year for 300 flat. Functions and looks amazing. Glad I got one before prices rose.

>>33071060
How are you liking it? I bought an M48b from a local shop in 2014 and I always like to see what other owners think. She's practically a brand new military mauser!

>>33071036
What should I look for in a 1898 Krag Jorgensen? See >>33067155.

Bought a good condition mannlicher straight pull carbine for 250

>>33071314
Fuck if I know chief. My knowledge of American milsurp is pretty bare bones and Krags especially are very nuanced. You wanna know about French stuff? I can tell you pretty reliably. Manufacturing? You probably won't find someone more knowledgeable on /k/. But anything else? Eh....

>>33071314
>>33071555
But...as far as basic stuff goes you want to avoid fakes or "restored" guns if you're paying $1000+. And obviously nothing refinished or sporterized.

>>33061574
You can do fun shit. I use 9.5gr of Green Dot and a regular 174gr FMJ in my .303 and I get great accuracy out to 100yrds, it's fun and cheap. You can do it with cast too but I cannot into castings.

>>33070787
More or less.

>>33071018
check the bore, barrel rifling, and if numbers match

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>>33071314
Not sporterized.

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>>33068014
Better photo.

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I need a M91.

>get M39
>bolt is rough to cock the first time, but smooth after that until you leave it sitting for 5 minutes
>degrease the supernugget and relube
>bolt is now ridiculously hard to cock all the time
Can you put mosin firing pin springs in backwards? What the fuck is going on.

So here's the update on my J&G Mauser...

It arrived with my FFL a few days ago, and today I went to go see it for the first time. Mine is a 7mm version, manufactured in Oviedo in 1932, making it exactly 85 years old. The bolt action and trigger are both really nice and unexpectedly smooth. The chamber is in good shape, and while the barrel is dirty as fuck inside and out, it' seems to be in good condition otherwise. I'm paying the FFL an extra $50 bucks to give it a thorough cleaning and inspection inside and out, and I'd recommend this to anyone who plans to buy one of these rifles. He took the barrel bands off (the fact that they came off at all without destroying the wood is actually a really good sign - he owned an 1894 Brazilian Mauser where the wood was in worse shape and the rifle had been abused more, and ended up destroying the stock while taking it apart) and it going to put it in the deep cleaner for me. When I finally get it back and post pictures of it, it should look in pretty good shape. Again,if you know a good gunsmith, I'd recommend you do what I did and pay him a few bucks to make sure your rifle is good to go.

One caution is that if you got the surplus ammo that came with it, remember that it's DEFINITELY corrosive ammunition. Be sure to clean your rifle thoroughly after every time you put that stuff through it. Once you're done with it and switch to ammo manufactured more recently, you can probably get away with cleaning it less.

Anyhow, pictures to come once it's finally in my hands. So far so good, though.

>>33073768
>not cleaning it yourself
shiggy diggy m8

>>33061592

Is it even safe to shoot a gun like that?

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>>33073768
>good gunsmith
>destroyed stock when cleaning 1894 mauser
>good

all these milsurp threads lately are just mausers and nuggets. Anyone have any interesting stuff, like a Krag Jorgensen or some handguns?

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>>33074225
See>>33072545

Stick around. The good stuff is around.

Here is my No.4 Mk1/2 to change it up a bit.

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On tonight's episode of spoonfeed anon some knowledge: Colombian .30-06 Mausers- the domestic converts, not the factory FN chambered ones.

>are they safe pressure-wise (vs dubious like 1916 .308s)
>what barrels did they use? I've heard 1903 Springfield, BAR, and rebored original 7x57 barrels
>any other issues/quirks?

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>>33074225
Interesting enough for you?

Anybody else got a Spanish Mauser made in La Coruña?

>>33064174
N-no ;-;

>>33061492
For initial cleaning of anything greasy I go outdoors and give the item a nice bath in gasoline or diesel or kerosene (whatever is handy, metal gives no fucks) then blow dry with compressed air (preferably) or a can of cheap carb cleaner. (Cheap carb cleaner is usually just toluene and relatives, works fine.)

Then detail clean and lube as you like.

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>>33074259
I have this Gras Musketoon, that I know I've posted in previous threads. At some point it got Jamal'd/Mohammed'd in north Africa, but it was long enough ago that it just makes it more interesting.

>>33066583
I'd get the gages. What one man can do, another can do and that certainly applies to simple machines like firearms.

Gunsmiths are like mechanics. I became a mechanic so I don't have to hope someone else gives a fuck about my trucks and motorcycles. By comparison firearms are very simple to work with.

>>33074195
A stock sitting around in a hot, humid jungle for a hundred years tends to do some not-so-good things to the wood. Among other things, the wood had gotten so soft and squishy that it had fused to the bands, and there was no way to get them off without causing damage. Also, the screws were not the right type, and were put in wrong, which made it even harder to take it apart without damaging it. In short, it had been abused and was in shit shape when he got it, to the point where the stock was a loss no matter what.

>>33073861
Everyday cleaning? I'll do that myself. A full cleaning and inspection on an 85-year-old rifle that probably hasn't been looked at since the 60s before I decide to ignite gunpowder in it a few inches from my face? I'll pay a gunsmith fifty bucks to do that.

>>33074225
Classic has Yugo Tokarevs on special for $219 a pop. Interesting enough for you?

>>33060441
Hey op, hows the spanish mauser doing? I've been thinking about getting one from J&G sales.

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>>33074265
>are they safe pressure-wise (vs dubious like 1916 .308s)
I don't see why not; it's an M98 action and .30-'06 is not a high-pressure cartridge.
>what barrels did they use? I've heard 1903 Springfield, BAR, and rebored original 7x57 barrels
Barrels were ordered from FN in Belgium.

>just got K31
>can barely contain myself from wanting to buy more surps

Fucking christ. I wish I had gotten into this when everything is cheap. I feel like I should have a mosin but they're like $300 now. How do I stop myself from going bankrupt with this shit? Do I just give in and get it now before things get even more expensive? Do I just accept I won't ever own everything I want?

This sucks. I managed to hold off on buying a yugo mauser from classic last night long enough for them to go out of stock. I haven't even shot my K31 yet.

I don't even know how to take care of old shit anyway. I just spray what I have with ballistol and put them in a silicone sock in my closet.

t. autist

>>33069237
Well she does balance her PH pretty well.

>>33075186
>How do I stop myself from going bankrupt with this shit?
Make more money and don't have children.

>>33073768
>>33074686
Sounds like he was being too hamfisted. A stock should never be destroyed taking it apart, nor does bands fuse to the wood. Sounds like the wood swelled some and instead of waiting to acclimatize the wood, he ripped them off.

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My restored SMLE Mk.III*

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>>33075024
>Barrels were ordered from FN in Belgium
That's reassuring
Do you know what other rifle's upper handguards are compatible if any? The one I'm considering has a cracked upper hg.

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>>33074686
if the stock was in such a bad state why would you even attempt to remove it.

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>>33075319

>>33075186
Where did you get a k31 friend? Ive been looking to get one for time without getting bent over a barrel, thats probably the problem though.

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>>33075650
Expect around $500+ these days I'm afraid.

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>>33075370
Any FN M1930 handguard will fit. I think also that just about any German export-model Mauser long rifle with the half-length handguard will fit. I wouldn't worry about that little crack; spread a little Acraglas and maybe some fiberglass cloth on the inside of the handguard to stabilize it and it will be fine.

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>>33075708
one of my big regrets is not getting one for 200 back when I worked at gander mtn. the m95 fills the straight pull void for now.

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>tfw you didnt buy 3 dozen nuggets when they were $99

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>>33075708
Fuck. I missed the Aim Surplus deals when they were like $320.

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why are there so many tripfags here?

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>>33075767
I remember when they were $100, or $70 on sale at Dunhams.

They're honestly pretty overrated though.

>>33073154
nigga you have enough leave some for me

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>>33075980
>Have enough
Is such a thing even possible?

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>>33075957
Id rather have an 1889 or 1896-11 anyways.

>>33076036
>Is such a thing even possible?
All of them.

>MAS36 for a few hundred bucks

is it worth bros? are baguette rifles cool/fun?

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>>33076149
Oh yes, very very worth it. They're the best bolt action infantry rifle around.

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>mfw playing "how different factories contributed to your Finn mosin"

Jesus I swear if the screws had marks they'd probably be from another factory make date as well.

It's incredible what they did to get these rifles back into spec.

>>33076179
um no

>>33075847
They think their opinions are law when it comes to surp.

>>33076195
this

>>33076179

it's around 500 bucks

is it worth? some dingus fucked with the front sight and shaved the wings off.

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>>33070690
>tfw the ATF will never face justice

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>>33076149
It's always worth it to buy baguette rifles.

>>33076333
jelly

>>33076368
I still need to get the earlier Berthier models, a MAS 36/51, and possibly try to track down a MAS 49. And I also need a regular Gras to go with the musketoon I posted earlier in the thread.

>>33076251
Not like that it isn't. There are plenty of unmolested examples for that price or less.
>>33076195
Uh, yes.

>>33075758
Oh that's not a pic of the rifle. Last time I posted anything related to a prospective purchase on here, one of you fucks sniped it out from under me. Thanks for the info

>>33077002
You're not from WI are you

>>33077065
Nope, why?

I got an irish contract no4 for 650 after tax. How much did i get screwed over?

>>33077407
Can you post pics?

>>33075308
Over the course of a hundred years in a jungle, old wood slowly turns into mush, and old varnish slowly turns into glue.

>>33077474
Nah camera broke in my phone. Bought a rifle instead of fixing it.

All the metal and bore look great, wood is like a 6-7/10

>>33077547
>>33077474
Shouldve mentioned everything matches down to the bayonet and frog

>>33075433
To put a new stock on it. That's how a restoration works - you take trashed old parts off, fix them if you can, replace them if you can't, put it all back together, and end up with a gun that works and looks nice.

>>33063666
I know that feel.

I spent $300 on my Hex 91/30 and $450 on my M48 when I bought them a couple years ago.

Don't regret it though. Both rifles are in damn good shape.

>>33066681
I'd recommend an M39 over an M48 personally, but neither are bad rifles.

M48 bolts can be somewhat stiff and require a break-in period. This is due to a lot of them being put immediately into storage after they were made.

>>33074430
neat

>>33067432
I must've gotten lucky.

My Mosin 91/30 had a bit of a sticky bolt when I got it.

Disassembled the bolt and cleaned all the pieces with Ballistol. Runs like a dream now, and the bolt is even smoother than my M48 Mauser.

Don't care what anyone else says about Mosins, I love mine. A Mosin in great shape is a beautiful rifle, in my opinion.

The fuck is the point of an image board if you can't post images? Holy shit Hiroshima, how can you consistently fuck this place up?

>>33078803
You can just email me pics of your cock

my LGS has a rockola m1 carbine for sale. It is missing its rear sight and some one polished the stock so that its all slick looking.

Its marked $799 before my states 7% sales tax. Should I get it?

>>33078950
Why is it missing its rear sight? Has it been bubba'd in any other way?

>>33079028
idk why its missing the rear sight it just wasnt on there when i looked at it. and no its all original otherwise. the sling it comes with is suppose to be early production

>>33066361
Where the fuck can I find a mosin locally? Like what stores usually carry Mosins that aren't online?

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>>33061384

Mah nigga.

What's the date on yours?

Does anyone know where i coukd find a mkIII ross, i want one to go with the enfiekd i just bought but it seems like they hardly exist

>>33078950
plz respond to this friends

>>33066732
What scope please

>>33066758
so do people build these out of parts kits? how much does that run?

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>>33070551
It wouldn't let me post this last night for some reason

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Saw a No1 MkIII from 1911 at my local gunsmith, they wanted a lot for it, and the wood furniture was trashed after two world wars. I wanted something I could shoot, so I looked on GunBroker and found an Ishapore No1 MkIII with all matching numbers for 350. It's pre 1948 so it should be good. I'm taking it hog hunting this weekend

>>33079270
Cabelas.

>>33080031
hope you like them round receivers

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>>33079404
They're not too common and when they do come up they go for around $1200.

I saw an 1893 Belgian converted to carbine length. I wanted it, but I just got my enfield, so I didn't bother

>>33079270
depends, what is local to you?

>>33080048
There is not 1893 Belgium Mauser. They had an 1889.model.
And bubba chopped down or an M1889/36?

>>33060725
That wood is purdy

>>33080062
You're right, but it was converted, not bubba'd, 1889/16

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>>33080062
>There is not 1893 Belgium Mauser.
There actually is; a carbine-length M93 made by FN for bicycle troops of the Belgian Garde Civique. It was chosen because the fully-internal magazine was more comfortable when slung on the cyclists' back. Confusingly, the Garde Civique designated this M93 carbine as "Modele 1889" like the actual Mauser Model 1889 carbines.

>>33080075
You like wood?

>>33080031
They sold out. It's not on their website anymore.

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>>33080203
Then nowhere. Get on Gunbroker and be prepared to spend $300 after all is said and done.

>>33080203
Go talk to the guys in the gun vault section of your local one. They probably have some that aren't listed. I know mine has at least 1 and several other guns that aren't listed

>>33080043
Shit thats a pretty penny. Ive spent more but wasnt expecting a rifle with the rosses reputation to go for that high.

Ive heard theyre great shooters, just not very good trench guns.

>>33080222
>>33080215
Sorry I'm not the anon who was asking.

I work there. If we ever get any they go out on the used rack. The only surplus we have right now are a few Yugos, an Argentino and a overpriced Egyptian M49.

>>33080258
You can get a Mk2 for around $700 or so right now. But those didn't go to war, the Mk3 did. So people want those more.

>>33080382
I guess il some more research on them and see if id be happy with a mkII. Either way it cant be too bad playing on arange

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>>33080474
The Mk2 has a better trigger pull. They went from a trigger mounted on the trigger guard on the Mk1 and 1* to one mounted on the frame of the gun.

If you can find a Mk1/2 or 1/3 they started out life as a Mk1 or Mk1* (which were issued in ww2) and were updated to Mk2 standards later.

Here is my Mk1/2 I snagged for $400.

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>>33080540
We're taking about Ross rifles boss, not Enfields.

>>33080540
Neat, i just bought an irish contract no4mk2. Everything matches, even the bayonet. Overpaid a bit but whatever, lost all the other auctions i wanted.
Cant wait to shoot it, but i was talking about the ross rifle in that post chain.

>>33080566
Is it strange that i want a bayonet and an original style sling on all my milsurp? I know some isnt feasible but it feels wrong to not try

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>>33060441
My great grandfather brought one of these home from Japan (not this one obviously). I've put a few clips through it, and it was a rather enjoyable experience.

>Why is 6.5 Japanese so expensive.

>>33080596
Na man, collect what you want. Personally those things don't interest me, but I definitely understand the appeal.

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>>33080596
No. I feel wrong not having a sling on each of my rifles, reproduction or otherwise.

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>>33080611
Post pics.

The pic you posted is of a Type 99 and Type 99s weren't in 6.5.

Yugo mauser gets here today and I'm way too excited. Pics SOON™

>>33080566
>>33080572

Shit my bad. All I saw was Mk2. I'll go sit in the corner.

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M95/30 for 250, how'd I do?

what's a good cheap milsurp that is a semi auto?

I really want a semi auto but they all seem expensive.

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>>33081391
SKS, unless your idea of cheap is below $300, then nothing.

Milsurp isn't a poor man's game I'm afraid.

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I'll just leave this here so you fags can clean up before this thread dies

>>33062017
>$270
>$3000 worth
>not flipping for a profit and buying a mountain of ammo with it
Oy vey, my inner jew just died of heartbreak

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>>33063426
I picked up 3 boxes for $40. Some have German produced clips and some look Austrian or whatever, all ammo is 1939 dated.

At another show I found a bunch of clips in a box of random gun parts, got 5 of them for $5.

>>33081580
Gibsmedat

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Just got her today for 200$ guy said he found it in his wall when he was remodeling a room.

>>33081580
I'll give you $300 dollarinos for that

>>33084573
>found a Japanese pistol in his wall
>sold it to you for $200
I think you got bretty luggy there fella even if it is a 94

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>>33064174
Jesus Christ, WHY?

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>>33084592
You're about 2 zeros short for my first fucking gun.

>>33084785
fine give me your second SKS
I know you've probably got like 10 you nigger

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New kid on the block.

>>33080043
You twats, ross's are unobtanium here in canada and the non-sporter grail guns you do see are never under like 1700

AND THEYRE OUR RIFLES REEEEEE

>>33084833
Nope, only the one. Thought about getting a Yugo but...eh.
>>33084877
You're gonna be really upset when I get one this year then. I'll be sure to wave it around erratically across the river from you.

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>>33084573
Nice! Do you know the date? Just add 25 if you don't.

>tfw need a Type 94

Im looking at getting a k31/k11

the only thing is idk how available the ammo is? Its probably not something you can buy at walmart but would your average gun/pawn shop carry it?
Seems readily available online however

>>33084918
Maybe. Surplus isn't available like it used to be and there aren't many makers of it. You should probably look at Reloading if you want to shoot it a lot.

>>33084918
>Would your average gun/pawn shop sell it.

Probably. Be prepared for the "Dis here's their Sniper Ammo. Dis is top shelf stuff" mark up on GP11(ex: I bought a 60rd box from Midway for $29 but my lgs has 10rd boxes for $15 and 60rd for $89) but PPU should be available

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>>33084905
We'll be coming to grab it and burn your white house down again yank!

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>>33084611
I kno next to nothing about theses
Hope this helps

>>33085043
Was for
>>33084908

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>>33085014
Heard these are starting to get pricey over there too...

>>33085150
I'll give you my anal virginity for that

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>>33085150
Fo hunnid maplebucks is still pretty standard for an Auto Nugget,

I havent bothered to pick one up because they sound like a pain in the ass to strip, but gloating it to weeping burgers on the internet might make it worthwhile

>>33085150

>has an SVT-40
>IN THE FUCKING USA

what do you do for a living? are you a millionaire?

>>33085332
They're not too bad to strip, it's just getting the mainspring out really.

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This ross talk has gotten me sad /k/. Put on some sad music, post your grail guns and weep with me.

One day im gonna find a fucking UVF marked 1904 romanian export mannlicher, I can feel it. ;_;

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>>33085043
>>33085063
It was made January of 1939. Is it matching, including the magazine?

If you ever wanna sell it someday, you should lemme know!

This thread is past the bump limit if someone wants to make a new one.

>>33085682
just got done cleaning her all of the gun matches minus the mag
but if i ever do i guess i can find u here

>>33086192
Wait a day. The best milsurp threads are the weekend ones

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Bork bork bork!

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>>33086227
Yeah, I'm almost always in these threads.

If not, you can e-mail me at [email protected]

>inb4 dick spam

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Börk börk!

Paging Akrykevin.
A hunter and collector of 1800's firearms has passed. His collection will going for auction. You interested?