So, what's so special about this stock to warrant its $250 price tag? Magpul marketing magic or is it actually a worthwhile product?
I recall reading somewhere that this was pretty much the toughest most robust stock+buffer tube combo money could buy, with tests to prove it, but alas I can no longer find this info.
Anybody own one who can chime in? Because I'm having a hard time seeing how something like a stock can cost so much.
>>33041269
nothing, if you like it and have the money there is nothing wrong with it, it's not really "worth" $250 though
>>33041269
>I recall reading somewhere that this was pretty much the toughest most robust stock+buffer tube combo money could buy
doubtful
>>33041284
Is it as robust as people say it is though? Seems like nobody's willing to do a torture test
Wondering if it's like, a forged 7075 buffer tube with a steel-frame stock that can literally be used to inflict massive blunt force trauma and still function perfectly afterwards
>>33041298
yeah, there is no way that this can be inherently tougher than the $30 Magpul fixed stock
I have one but just came here to read the nogunz comments.
>>33041269
I also recall hearing that it was basically a fixed stock in stability; but, with the flexibility of a retractable stock. Not sure where I heard that though.
Also I think the M93 served as a proof of concept for them to create the highly rated Masada/ACR stock and the UBR is the same mechanism refined for a buffer tube. But that's just my speculation.
>>33041345
I don't think comparing an adjustable stock to a fixed stock in terms of durability is exactly fair.
>>33041348
It's pretty shitty and overpriced tho :^
>>33041335
>Is it as robust as people say it is though? Seems like nobody's willing to do a torture test
what are you going to do with your stock OP, bash in windows?
I'm sure it's fine but there is no need for it to be "the toughest" I am sure an old style fixed stock is tougher than that thing at full extension
>>33041354
>M93
Holy shit I'd forgotten about that magical space magic stock
>>33041388
>I'm sure it's fine but there is no need for it to be "the toughest"
At that price for a stock that's simply LOP-adjustable, I'd expect it to be.
>>33041454
It's tough enough but it's doubtful it's tougher than a standard 1970s fixed stock
>>33041269
my rich, elitist prick of a friend got it and it was heavy AF.
He sold it and got an ACE skeleton stock
>>33041348
>anti rotation pins
into the trash it goes
>>33041596
This is what happens when you lay a camera on the bench and shoot a .308 near it.
>>33041269
I have one. it's heavy as fuck, do only get it if you're okay with a very stout rifle. it is extremely tough feeling and solid in any position.
I got mine for like 180 on a DSG sale. It's a fine stock but probably not worth the money or weight.
I mean my rifle is already heavy. 20", ACOG, rails, so like, it didn't matter to me.
If I had to pick an AR15 buttstock to use as a melee weapon, this with the optional strike plate would probably be it.
>>33041701
betterish picture of the actual stock
>>33041535
Don't those things crack all the time because of shitty plastic
>>33041269
One good thing about it is all that weight makes it very rear heavy, so if you have a light handguard, the balance feels almost like a bullpup. If that's what you're after.
Might be a strange question but does anybody know the manufacturing specs for the UBR's proprietary buffer tube?
Is it forged 7075?
Imo that's the most important part of any stock system, you can have a fucked up stock and your rifle will still work, but if the buffer tube gets bent even a little you've got a useless brick in your hands.
>>33041368
Woof!
>>33042302
it's forged 7075, yes, however it is unique to the UBR and is not the same as a normal extension.
There's zero point unless you're a mall ninja who never carries their gun further than their moms master bathroom, or have an sbr with a can that you want to have a little more balance with
>>33044206
Actually I handled a 16" barreled AR with a UBR and it balanced that out well enough for me to shoot it one-handed.
>>33044178
Good to know, but is there a source for this info?
>>33044328
>Good to know, but is there a source for this info?
magpul themselves, or if you prefer you can just look at the tube (extruded vs forged is easy to tell apart) and perform a ring test with a leather mallet. 7075 will ring, 6061 will thud.
>>33044239
>larperonaroof.jpg
>>33044386
look closer at the equipment he's using
The site hosting the tests is down.
It's tougher than other stocks because the standard reciever extension is poorly constructed for being abused. Magpul tried a new design in the m93b, the UBR is the result of that experiment.
>>33044429
so fucking what, there is a replica of literally everything real soldiers use.
>>33044429
something tells me g rails on carbines is not part of even socom kit
>>33044596
That photo popped up literally a few days ago. They've been using G rails on 416s for a little while now.
>>33044645
>larperinareplicablackcock.jpg
>>33044740
I gotta admit the GIANT flag patch is throwing me.
I am all for my homeland but an oversized brightly-colored flag seems like a bad idea.
>>33044768
All the blue bolts and baseplates gives me the feeling this is a training exercise
Also downloaded mags
>>33044429
The paracord wrapped knife or the Chinese headlamp?
>>33041335
It's the single most robust COLLAPSING stock hands-down. It's like top-third when compared to fixed stocks though.
It's more durable than the Magpul fixed or the A2 fixed, yeah, but not compared to shit like the PRS or Ace fixed.
That being said, it has a few issues and a few hidden plus's.
>issues
Most people don't know there's a screw you have to remove to get its full LOP adjustment, and even with the screw removed it's still on the short side fully extended and still on the long side fully collapsed. A standard CAR/M4 collapsible will be shorter collapsed and longer fully extended.
It's heavy AF. Nearly as heavy as a PRS, which is longer and full of metal adjustment knobs.
>hidden gem
There is enough material in the toe to mount a sling stud for either traditional rifle slings or, more commonly, an Accushot monopod. The "strike toe" that's sold separately can also mount the picatinny Accushot monopod, making this a GOAT stock for an SPR or precision rifle.
>>33044882
if you want a monopod rail just get a luth mba. the mba-1 needs an additional piece and the mba-3 comes with a rail on it
Anybody know what the differences are between the gen 1 and gen 2 UBRs?
Gen 2 is supposed to be lighter and longer but also substantially cheaper? Did they decide the original UBR was too fuckexpensive to make so they redesigned it to make it cheaper to produce?
>>33044882
Wait, that stupid mallninja "strike plate" thing they sell is a section of rail? Didn't look like it to me
>>33044645
>EoKeks
>>33042713
Bang
>>33041269
Fixed stock install and cheek weld with adjustable length of pull.
>>33041335
There are drop tests of different stocks:
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/gearscout/2012/02/01/buttstock-bashfest-gearscout-finds-out-just-how-far-tough-talk-goes/32149981/
tl;dr: most stocks failed a 3ft drop within a couple drops. The UBR failed after a few hundred drops at 3ft and then a 10ft drop. AKA the UBR is hands down the most durable collapsible on the market.
>>33044882
>there's a screw you have to remove to get its full LOP adjustment
I don't think that's accurate. There is a preset screw that presets the LOP to a desired length, but it can be overridden by pushing the side button and extending the stock out at the same time.
>>33048799
Cool, thanks for the link. Shame none of the pictures work though
You don't pull out beard or moustache hairs if you adjust it while shouldered.
So, that's something.
>>33044645
In Mosul