what is the new entry level long range rifle since Remington

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>>33038455
Sabatti Rover Tactical

>>33038455
Savage

>>33038502
OP here,

this is a seriously good answer

>>33038455
Savage
A Savage that goes for the same price as a remington is way better and has better options

i really hope Remington gets their shit together,

not having the definitive strong choice to fall back on like the good 700s sucks

>>33039313
except the Savage is a definitive strong choice

Opt for an older Winchester 70 and never look back.

Budget: Savage
Non-poorfag tier: Tikka
Best without spending GUCCI money or replacing every part on your rifle: Ruger American

>>33039391
not american, Ruger Precision Rifle. I have AMERICA on the brain. God, I love winning.

>>33039406
RPRs are fugged

haven't you heard the latest news of them having to fix them?

They're also meme guns

Just get a normal rifle you mallninja shit

>>33038502
U-UNATCO?

>>33039328
Savage is shit.

>>33039554
and you're a faggot

Savage 11s beat the shit out of 700s

>>33038455
I have a Tikka T3 in .30-06 and a Savage heavy barrel in .308. Both shoot sweet. The Tikka has a nicer bolt throw. Triggers are both pretty nice.

Ruger Precision Rifle looks totally awesome for the price as well for a tactical style rifle.

Tikka and Savage.

If I didn't have my T3 I would've bought a Savage for sure.

Weatherby vanguard.

>>33039648
whats the point of a "tactical" bolt action

A bolt action should be accurate with a bipod and a scope

adjustable comb and LOP is a meme
Get buttplate spacers and the right mount height for your face

>>33039421
>>33039742
>adjustable ergonomics, exchangeable stocks/grips and affordable detachable magazines are a meme

Fuck off you fudd.

>>33039918
the only reason you want it is the AR handguard and detacheable magazines

You can buy customized stocks for a Savage and have a better rifle cheaper

>>33039571
t. Savage shill

>>33040201
Remington shill

>>33040201
>muh shill
Die in a fire

>>33038455

Are the 700 receivers still any good?

I've been out of the loop for years n years..

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>>33038455

>>33038455
Tikka T3
It is like a budget-version of a Sako.

>>33038502
>Savage
>>33039311
>Savage
>>33039391
>Savage
>>33039694
>Savage.

Savage. guaranteed OOTB 1MOA and Accutrigger means it shoots better than you for a long, long time

>>33039705
can confirm, weatherby vanguard is great

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>>33039406
>>33039421
>>33039918
What about the Mossberg MVP series? They take standard AR/M1A/M14 mags and they look breddy nice

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OP here
they all name the models xx/xxx

what does this mean?

example
11/111

does that mean its a model 11?

Howa 1500. Very affordable, and from all reviews I've heard/read, a very reliable, accurate rifle with several options to suit your needs.
>Mini action for some short action calibers, also has a lighter barrel
>Regular short action, available in sporter and varmint (heavy) barrel, with 20 and 24" barrel length
>Long action as above
>available in plenty of calibers

>>33043877
Mossberg shotguns are breddy great.
Their rifles? No thanks m8.

>>33039550
No, savage

>>33043884
11 is short action, 111 is long action.

>>33043926

thank you
do they not call model 10s, model 10s anymore?

i cant find them or model 12s i want to put one in a Bell & Carlson stock

>>33043339
receivers are fine if you have a lathe and knowledge to fix them

>>33043818
I hate Vanguards because their bolt design is cocks

>>33043877
I heard they're fine
Everything I've heard bad about them was that they had rattle bolts which was exclusivly that the rear of the receiver was larger than the bolt which is a non issue

>>33043884
10 short action
11 long action

>>33043926
wrong

>>33040201
What does the t. stand for? I've lurked for a long time and i still can figure you'd one out.

>>33044002
I believe that there were some minor changes from the model 10 to model 11. It's been a while since I've read up on it and my model 11 heavy barrel in .308 just sits in my closet since I've moved and now all I can find are 25 yard indoor ranges.

>>33044063
its a Finnish meme

>>33044071
>25 yards
WHY EVEN LIVE

>>33044086
Ah ok cool. Thanks man.

>>33044061
No, you Autist. The two digit models have always been short action and the 3 digit long. Do you even own a Savage?

>>33043818

you're paying for furniture. Savage beats the Fudderby on every level

https://youtu.be/CCsPBSUBpzA?t=397

>>33044098
>no
>these are things I heard

>>33044088
Trust me, it feels bad. I've pretty much become exclusively a hand gunner because all the indoor ranges won't even allow me to shoot my AR unless I buy their frangible ammo at 70 Cents per round. I hate being an Urbanite

>>33043909
I too want to know why Howa's aren't mentioned. They're highly regarded on the shooting forums I go to. No love for japanese steel?

>>33044259
because Jap steel was shit in post 64 Win 94s and Howas are unavailable as fuck for most people

That and they're fairly expensive

>>33044259
I actually think I've never seen one.

>>33044443
bought a new howa 1500 gameking combo in .223 back in august for ~$500. I'm a poorfag and that seems like a good price

>>33044259
>>33044443
>>33044495
Mainly availability thing. As companies/firearms get more known and main stream to the average gun owner, then more big/generic gun stores will run them making them easier for the common person to get.

That's why I recommended Savage right at the start for the requirement of "entry" rifle. They are a well known respected company with high availability rates across the country thanks to big/generic gun stores having them.

As people get more into the hobby and want to expand their skills or purchase a "better" firearm then it's now easier for them to make the transition to something like a Tikka or Howa or even a tricked out specialty rifle if they so choose.

>>33044063
Read "regards"

I want to buy a Savage but my wife says the rifle is offensive to native americans. Wat do?

>>33044063

tervesins

>>33044443
>unavailable as fuck
you can buy a Howa on such normie websites as Bud's Gunshop
yeah, they might not be on shelves in stores, but if you're the kind of person who refuses to buy guns online or ask your shop to order guns for you, then there's no hope for you

>>33047309
Tell her it's a way of honoring them and keeping them known to the general populace instead of removing any and all references to them with the exception of Casino's and letting their culture die in the dark forgetfulness that is todays society.

>>33047309
Tell her natives don't give a shit about her white opinions.

Cheapskate tier? Savage & Howa. But mostly Savage. CZ used to be here too, but they're slippin'.
Willing to spend something to gain something? Tikka T3 & Ruger RPR.
Once you go above that though, choices become difficult and very personal.

>>33039705
I'll add to this, really happy with mine. Getting an AICS magazine kit and a new stock for mine soon, pretty stoked to see how it'll turn out.

>>33043357
who is this single person called /k/ and why are there only 10 rifles on that list ?


all those compiled "/k/" lists are worthless

Ruger Americans are more accurate than they have any right to be.

If you want something customizable based on the same action, go for the RPR.

I bought a Howa barrelled action for a budget 223 build and I am very happy with it. Savage is also a good options as is Tikka. The Tikka will probably be the nicest and most accurate out of the box but the after market will not be as big Savage or Howas.

>>33039742
>whats the point of a "tactical" bolt action
they are designed to be accurate because the receiver is designed to be bedded to a solid competition stock and is completely freefloated. If you buy a normal bolt action rifle you have to accurize it by bedding the receiver into the stock with epoxy. I cant believe people here are dumb enough to not understand that hunting rifles are not accurate out of the box like rifles designed to be target/sniper rifles

>>33047544
a lot of people don't buy deer rifles online

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Dammit I miss my Ruger American.

>>33038455
Remington 700 was always shit
https://youtu.be/oS_GDpZM3ak
The answer is Savage

>>33039705
Isn't that just a howa rebadge?

>>33039391

> Ruger not a budget option
> Ruger also not inferior to the Savage

The Savage wins because you don't need a gunsmith to do ANYTHING on one.

The barrels also are the standard for pretty much anything that isn't a 700. Prefit savages are used in almost all high-end custom actions that don't use 700 barrels and need only a barrel nut to install. You can change Savage barrels in your garage in no time at all. Floating bolt heads make this possible. A Savage with a high end Krieger, Bartlein, or whoever the hell you want barrel will shoot damn near as well as any Mausingfield build will because the barrel and bolt are the most important parts by a mile.

Triggers are also brain dead easy to change out, and chassis systems and stocks are available from any good maker for the Savage nowadays too.

The biggest weakness of savage is heavy bolt lift which is more an annoyance than an actual weakness. This can be remedied with a beefier and longer bolt handle which provides better leverage.

Also, ejection is a little weak compared to custom guns. Noteworthy but not a major issue.

>>33052210
>>33039406


Nevermind, saw your correction to the RPR, which is certainly a nice rifle for the money. I still like the Savage for barrel change outs but the RPR is very nice for what it is.

>>33047544
>if you're the kind of person who refuses to buy guns online or ask your shop to order guns for you
I cannot wrap my head around this. One of my friends overpaid for a 10/22 in a color he hates, just because the store "ran out" of others.

And he's not mentally disabled or anything, he's my age, knows the internet exists and he's used credit card payments online. I just do not understand. If someone else is in the mindset please shed some light

>>33038455
Tikka.

>>33047309
The company was founded by Arthur Savage in 1894. The name has nothing to do with Indians.

mossberg 308

>>33038455
You guys should really stop repeating the same horseshit hearsay about Remington. Most of this garbage is not from first hand knowledge, and usually includes the nonsense about Freedom Group and Cerberus. The fact is, based on the VOLUME of rifles/shotguns etc they produce, there is bound to be some issues.

>>33052216
RPR uses the AR-10 style barrel nut I believe, so barrel changes are easy.

The nice thing about the Murkan is that it's $300 and stupidly accurate for the money. Shoot that for a while, make sure you like it, then drop $1000 on the RPR.

>>33039421
no, and I work at a dealer who sells a substantial number of them

so tell me about these rumored issues you've heard your fellow keyboard reviewers talk about.

>>33054041

It uses a barrel nut but barrels aren't the savage standard, which is the norm for prefits for most makers.

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>>33038455

>>33049243
I never thought I'd meet a man who had so much in common with a list.

>>33051454

yes they were so shit that they were used as the US Army sniper rifle platform for 30 years

>>33038455

Savage 11/110
Tika whateveritis
Mossberg MVP (personal favorite)

>>33043357
>No Savage Axis
>No Savage 10

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>>33043910

>Their rifles? No thanks m8.

If you haven't used one since the 4x4 (where the shit rep came from), you should give the MVPs a try.

They're good. I'd personally put them above basic Savage. Biggest downside is limited caliber selection, but as long as you want to stick to .308, they're very solid.

Bonus for offering probably the most affordable full-size takedown. (Even if the default stock is fugly)

>>33054944

Savage 10 is just a short action version of the 110, so it's included.

And the Axis is shit unless you're only buying the gun to go out hunting MAYBE once a year until you decide if you like it or not.

>>33047309
Stop being a cuck and do whatever the fuck you want. She's your wife, not your mom.

>inb4 hurrr virgin
I'm married too but my wife knows who pays the fucking bills and knows her place.

>>33047309
Buy some Vagisil instead and apply it where your balls used to be

>>33052269
I think he might actually be mentally disabled.

>>33052269
Jesus. Just tell the store "pls order me a model 01103" or something and you'll be fine. You'll get your gun in a week.

>>33047309
Use proof to show that you are ultimately correct.

weatherby vanguard is GOAT

>>33038455
Who in here /Howa/?

I'm rolling with a 1500 Hogue Overmould Niko Sterling with 20" BBL in .308

>>33044111
>"both essentially equally accurate"
>"weatherby feels better"
>better on every level
Did you even watch the video?

>>33047309
Punch her in the dick and then promptly go hunt around for yours. The company was started by a man named Arthur Savage and they got their logo because they supplied a buttload of Savage 99's to some tribe in exchange for using a dude's picture as a logo because it made for a nice 'American West' feel.

>>33043877
For the same price you can build a better rifle without mossberg's shitty bolt design.

For example:
>go to brownells
>buy Howa #6 contour barreled action $400-$500
>buy MDT LSS chassis $450ish (after buying furniture)

Boom infinitely better rifle.

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>>33047309
Tell her to google their history.

The namesake of the company is derived from one of its founders names Arthur Savage, not a slur against natives.

>>33057748

Yeah, but the logo ain't helping.

>>33044114
Really? Up here the indoor range is rated for .50bmg.

>>33053437
Every single time I've finger fucked a Remington the action has been gritty as fuck. Why should I not just put it down?