ITT Vehicles that did most of the work

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>>33028576

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Not even troll'n

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Panzer II later on converted to the Wespe and Marder II

Honorable mention Panzer38t, Marder III,Hetzer

>>33028722

holy shit I take this back about 8500 panzer 4s were produced i wonder if this number counts the jagdpanzer etc though

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Move aside, some hard workers coming thru

You can shit on them all you want, but when real shit begins they do all the shitty work

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>>33028993

>>33028779
only the 30ish conversions

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>>33029031

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>>33029044

>>33028646
lol

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Pip Pip! Spitfire a shit!

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>>33029123
Don't have other picture :D

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>>33029294
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>>33029294

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>>33029294

>>33029394
story?

>>33029031
God, that's tight

>>33028686
imagine if they had been able to field trucks in the numbers the US did.

>>33029443
Yeah, the tactical retreats would have been so much smoother.

>>33029416

doctor killed by cartel

>>33029443
It may be arguable but they would have probably been in Moscow by winter.

>>33029483
To be fair they did those exceptionally well.

>>33028993
>>33029008
There's nothing sexier than a rusted and beat to shit tank. Looks like something from Mad Max.

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>>33029416
Flying the ww2 China - Burma - India route. Better known as the Hump.

The worst flying conditions ever faced in history was in the CBI theater.
Both from Himalayan Mountain weather and supplying front line units in the shittiest jungle airstrips.

Airfields under constant Japanese attack still require supplies and evacuation of wounded.

Pilots flew constantly with dysentery and malaria. Many of them never came back.

>>33028993
>>33029008
>>33029031
>>33029044
>>33029123
this, for the past half-century there's been few things as ubiquitous as Soviet hardware.

>>33028710
muh 6 gorillion never 5get

>>33028686
>uses no precious fuel
>reliable, very few breakdowns
>can run on pretty much anything you find in the field
>easy to manufacture

Sure, they're fairly slow, but what's wrong with horses for moving supplies?

>>33028591
fpbp

It isn't sexy and it has not boom-stick, but between logistical transport/troop transport, there isn't many higher contributors to a war cause.

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>>33029340
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>>33029294
>>33029427
Yes but can it fly over the Himalayas?

>>33029031
can you imagine what a pain in the ass it would have been to park those there?

>>33030528
mostly the lack of speed, and the fact that generally you can't fix a horse will bullet or shrapnel holes in it...

>>33028993
>No your M1 can't do this

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>>33030677
Imagine ramming one pushing the one infront of you forward so now you gotta take your original one out of there get into the pushed one and rearrange it again and maybe you're so lucky and push it under another one by accident.

>>33030528
>gets hit with the tiniest bit of shrapnel or a single bullet
>useless
Also they're slow, extremely susceptible to bad weather, and nobody likes stepping in horse shit.

>>33030528

> starts to get cold in Russia
> turn keys, start truck
> drive 4 hours to front line, drop off supplies
> drive 4 hours back to depot, sleep for the night
> repeat tomorrow

vs

> starts to get cold in Russia
> hook cart onto horse
> walk 8 hours towards frontline, not there yet
> horse is tired and cold
> horse catches pneumonia overnight and dies
> pro : meat for dinner
> con : supplies stranded until new horse gets here
> repeat on average once every 3 weeks

The Wehrmacht lost on average 1400 horses every day during the 1941-1942 winter.

Then consider this fact, it takes 4 years for a colt to mature into a Stallion and able to be used for draft work. If the Wehrmacht says "chiswick, fresh horses!", the mares can't reproduce that fast, and even if they could, there's a 4 year delay to maturation. The only way the Wehrmacht obtained replacement horses was taking horses from farms, which wreaks havoc with food production because farmers still need their horses to farm with.

Building a truck from start to finish in Detroit takes around 40-50 man hours. If the US government says "more trucks now", the factory switches to 3 shifts and pumps out more trucks. At worst, you build a new factory and start production in around a year to a year and a half.

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>>33028646

>>33028993
This desu,

There's something poetic about 40+ year old warsaw pact armor, meant to storm through the fulga gap, eventually being dusted off and sent to glory or valhalla in a distant sandbox.

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D-30 howitzer.

>>33029601
>To be fair they did those exceptionally well.
BAGRATION
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But seriously nobody did tactical retreats well in WW2. Well, maybe the US at the Bulge, but that was "continuous retreat with reinforcements pouring in".

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>>33028576

Stug Life is the only life.

Humvee

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>>33031001
>88mm
speaking of things that did most of the work...

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>>33028576

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Builder of roads, maker of airfields, father of fortifications.

>>33030984

> But seriously nobody did tactical retreats well in WW2. Well, maybe the US at the Bulge, but that was "continuous retreat with reinforcements pouring in".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Slim,_1st_Viscount_Slim

>>33030063
Jesus man, if you got anymore info on that that part of the way you should post more! You never hear about Burma and that area during ww2.

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Why does everyone always go "Muh Corsair!" when they think of Pacific planes.

>>33030889
I call them "German liberty ships"

Does anybody remember that joke where the officer tells the soldier to salvage the dead horses for spare parts?

>>33032190
quality post

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>>33032533
Cuz Corsairs did more ground support. Corsairs were the better plane but had trouble with carrier landings so the Navy preferred the Hellcat. The Corsair also had a better postwar career.

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The unsung heroes of the early Korean war.
Also LONG DONG

>>33030634
The C-46 looks like a flying penis

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>>33032488
I can spend a couple hours of typing about the Hump, but I got to get up early.

If you want to know more, there a some good books on the subject.

>One Pilot's Life
Fantastic pilot memoir. All first person. Spends time in the CBI theater with C-46s and C-47s. Everyone who has borrowed that book, always said that it was really good.

>Flying the Hump
Talks about the CBI theater as a whole. Nothing first person. Kind of a slow read, but very good.

>Born to Fly the Hump
Short read, but educational.

>The Grand Old Lady
Compilation of really interesting C-47/DC-3 stories. Definitely recommend.

Pic related is the famous DC-2 and a half.
http://cnac.org/aircraft02.htm

>>33029031
There is a lot of wasted space in there. They need to stack them up in layers.

>>33032270
hue hue hue

>>33029483
Heh

>>33030889
Speaking of, does anyone have any sources comparing mechanizasion in the Allied forces vs Axis forces?

>>33030528
Your truck breaks a wheel, you change it and drive on. Takes less than an hour.

Your horse breaks a leg, you have meat for dinner and are stuck until a new one turns up.

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>>33029142
Kek

>>33028591
Studebaker helped the Soviets more than lend lease tanks ever did, they kept those trucks running for decades.

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Everybody love the Mustang, but who was up there fighting the luftwaffe and ground pounding long before that hotrod came into play? This guy.

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>>33028576
>nothing ITT about best plane
http://www.cbi-theater.com/life041243/life041243.html

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>>33034646
>before that hotrod

Nope, it took ten months to drag your fat ass into the fight after the workhorse got there.

>>33029142
Is this thread /threadable?

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>>33034671
The thread is about vehicles that did the work, not who got there first. If I remember correctly overall the P-47s were responsible for more air and ground kills than any other single US plane in the European theater.

Also I'm not sure the P-51B/Cs were considered hotrods, unless all Brit lend-lease Mustangs had the merlin engine? I was under the imreason those had the Allison engines, unless the Brits swapped them.

>>33034728
>Make statement
>Get called out on being wrong
>That's not what this thread is about!

Bravo.

But let's talk about the job then. The job of long range strategic bomber escort. Or just way out there sweeps for enemy aircraft.

Oh. Well, I'm sure if you ask really nicely the Germans will let you refuel at their airfields.

Sure, there are plenty of things the P-47 can do, and do well. But try to use it for the jobs the P-51 excelled at and you'll be left with a lot of dead bomber crews.

>>33029176
if it fits it ships.

>>33032190
Also Nip tunnel fillers too.

>>33034758
I was being nice about it, no need to be a dick. There's no doubt that the P-51 was a better long range escort. Even with the drop tanks the P-47 didn't have the range. Maybe the late M or N variants but not the Ds. For overall kills and CAS the P-47 has the numbers but you're right the P-51D was a far better escort.

>>33034785
>I was being nice about it, no need to be a dick.

The nice way to move goalposts? Don't.

>>33034789
lol move the goalposts? Would overall kills not be the metric for work?

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>>33029044
Mah nigga

Mi-24 is always one of my fav attack helicopter

>>33035110
nice Puma in your pic

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>>33035117
Pretty sure that's a hind my man

>>33034785
It's easy to get annoyed at Americans on this board
There is a lot of ignorance due to so many Burgers so you gotta be assert your point any way you can

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>>33035117
That's just how old Mi-24 looks like. The signature bubble canopy was only introduced in later variant

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>>33035179
>>33035110

these

>>33035302

and this are different

Look at the ir intake, the wings size and angle and the landing gear and it's housing

Top two is a fake, bottom is a real, early Mi-24

>>33035302
Am i being trolled here?

You do realise that
>>33035179
>>33035110
is a Puma in a bodykit, right?

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>>33028576

Not just the Vickers but the Costal Command in general is forgotten.

>>33031001

>tfw even tho webm has no sound I still hear Panzerleid.

>>33032098
>jeep.jpeg

That's true /thread

>>33034646
What happened to Hun Hunters I through XV?

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H-Hey guys

>>33034728
All B/C mustangs had a Packard Merlin.

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>>33032190
based caterpillar
>friendly reminder that deuces were the backbone of the US military support structure up until the advent and phasing in of the HEMTT/5 ton

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>>33038885
But that's not the original. Glorious CCKW master race.