(silencer thread....sshhhh)

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>>33024228
Sup?

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>>33026059
Whats up with you nigga? hmu see what happens

>>33026401
Oh shit it's day boi

>>33024228
SilencerCo Omega 7.62
Other than that I'm thinking about getting a pistol can.

Well I guess this is as good a thread as any to ask in. Can anyone here point me in the right direction for which suppressor to get?

I want to get a user serviceable 7.62 with a QD mount that I don't need to touch so can mount it underneath my handguard and not have to make sure it's still threaded tight after each mag. I was thinking of going for the Griffin Optimus but was wondering if anyone else had any suggestions.

Also, can someone explain to me what rated for subsonics/supersonics means? I've seen people saying both that supersonics have too much pressure for the can to handle and that subs are more likely to tumble and strike baffles. So do I need to find a suppressor that is rated for both? or is one that's rated for supers capable of handling subs? There's a lot of conflicting information online and my state isn't suppressor friendly so I don't even know anyone I can ask about it.

Check cashed july 13th for 2 form 1s and a form 4, all paper

Any wild ass guesses to my wait time?

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so will they repeal the NFA?
I remember them getting more than 100,000 signatures.

>>33024228
I've had a silencer in NFA jail for half a fucking lifetime. I think I bought it in 2015.

>>33028782
Forms 4 submitted last May are currently being approved. You should call your dealer. Either they didn't submit the Form 4, they forgot to call you, or they never got the stamp in the mail.

>>33024248
Trump is a Jewish shill and a lap dog.

>>33029287
I did it through silencershop. My dealer has the suppressor, and he let me see it. He said he had no idea when it would be approved.

>>33027257
7-9 months.

>>33029313
Did you ever go sign a Form 4? That's when the actual transfer starts.

Anyone think there'll be a market for cheap, no-frills suppressors after the HPA passes?

I may be considering opening up shop.

>>33029369
I think you're underestimating the cost of producing suppressors that can get decent attenuation. There are plenty of cheap shitty cans on the market already and they all suck, for example Huntertown Arms and Rebel Silencers.

Stop calling them silencers you fucking inbreds.

>>33029337
I set up a trust.

>>33029442
>silencers
When a Democrat hears that word, its the equivalent of AR15=Machine gun.
Why give liberals ammo?
Call them what they are. Suppressors

>>33029472
Yes, no shit. Did you or did you not complete and sign an ATF Form 5320.4 in duplicate? If you did not sign the form, then you never started the transfer and your can is not actually "in NFA jail" because you're retarded.

t. manager/rp, major nfa retailer

>>33024228
I have an AAC TIRANT 45 I ordered in may. Stamp submitted June 6thish. Still waiting.

It's going on my 1911 and my 9mm AR SBR

>>33026401
>photoshop
why tho?

>>33027220
The sub/super thing is for pistol cans. Most pistol cans are rated for subsonic 300blk but not supersonic. The supersonic will damage the can and possible destroy it due to the pressure.

You'll want to look into a rifle can if you want to suppress 762x51. Lots of companies make them; my friend has a Saker 762 sitting in NFA jail but he did his research and said it's pretty gud

>>33029498
Lots of people go through silencershop and their associated dealers. I was never told or heard any mention of that.

>>33029402
If New Zealand has cheap cans, why can't we?

I'm assuming the main factors in the cost of suppressors in the USA are fancy materials and machining, bells and whistles, and most importantly a lower volume of demand because of legislation, meaning they have to sell each one for more to make any amount of money at all.

>>33029537
The foreign market for super quiet subsonic cans outside of 22LR is nonexistent. Outside of handloads subsonic 9mm doesn't really exist, 45 ACP doesn't really exist there, and 300BLK just hasn't made it over.

This means that in their market attenuation is second to size and weight.

There will be a demand for small, cheap AR and AK suppressors, but guess what: With Silencers going Title I we'll be able to import them. Every AK will have an el cheapo foreign made PBS.

>>33029534
This is what happens when you click "buy" and don't read the fucking instructions. Go to your dealer TOMORROW and tell them how retarded you are.

FYI: You're going to have to get fingerprinted in order to receive the can. Otherwise, you're waiting for the Hearing Protection Act.

>>33029627
No, you're retarded. I did mine as a trust before 41f so I'm grandfathered in. My friend ordered a can through silenvershop and the same dealer. His wait time was about 10 months but he just clicked buy, sent in his trust info, and when it was approved, picked it up.

Tldr go fuck yourself

>>33027220

Very biased (as I partially invented them and used to make them) but if Dave has not changed the design, the Smith "windtalker" is absurdly user maintanable (by design). It's been run on M240's to incandescence with no issues, so a civvy end user should be fine.

Downsides?

It's fucking heavy.

I/We designed it to be boot-proof. You can drive tent stakes with it. But you can clean it with a t-shirt and a broomstick. And you basically will have a very hard time hurting it. It's innards are stainless and it's coupler is titanium.

Also- You get one in 7,62, you can mount it on a 5.56mm Vortex, and still get some supression.

>>33029661
>i want to believe

>>33029303
Blah blah

>>33029303

t. same poster who bitched about how trump was going to confiscate guns

>>33024228
I got a Hybrid at a dealer waiting. Bought it June 1st. Hoping she'll be here end of March. Playing with my spectre 2 isn't cutting it.

>>33029649
Anon, no. You're retarded. You ~CANNOT~ transfer a silencer to an unlicensed person without a Form 4 (or 5).
People are not "grandfathered in"
Suppressors are not "grandfathered in"
Purchases are not "grandfathered in"
APPLICATIONS submitted after July 12th 2016 are subject to 41F. You never submitted your Form 4. Your can is not in NFA jail because you never started the transfer.

>>33029498
I did the e-submission thing, famalam

>>33030412
That's so weird because my form was submitted on June 6th and the ATF has it. I can't begin to imagine what kind of shit shop you run. $600 police trade in .40 cal Glocks kind of shop I bet

>>33029484

we should just start calling them mufflers

>>33029694
Whether he's a lapdog after kikes were omitted from the Holohoax remembrance speech aside, it's not debatable that he's pro-Israel.

>>33030523
Then you signed a Form 4

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Suppressors are addicting. I'm up to 8 so far. Almost half of my firearms have dedicated suppressors now. Once you start shooting with them (especially outside), you hardly want to go back to "the before time".

AAC Pilot (.22lr)
Gemtech Trinity (9mm)
YHM Phantom SS (7.62mm)
FA Machine Works Grenadier (9mm)
FA Machine Works Minutan-Ti (.22lr)
Barrett QDL (.50 BMG)
AAC TiTan-QD (.338)
FA Machine Works Dragoon (7.62mm) (Currently in ATF jail)

I'm not a robot.

>>33029521
Thanks for clearing that up. I did some research on the saker 762 and it looks really nice (ill probably end up getting one eventually) but i dont think i can take it apart which im not a fan of and my first one i want to be able to play with.

>>33029661
You make this thing sound too good to be true, i dont even mind extra weight if the thing is quality. But are they rare or something because when i look it up i get propaganda videos from smith enterprises and 2 videos of some guy in a gunstore talking shit on it. Im on my phone so i havent researched too much but is there at least a disassembly video on their site?

>>33030703
post em friendo

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posting my 762 specwar and 45 octane.

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Gemtech Mist integral was my first.

Also have
Spectre II .22
Guardian .22
Octane 9
Mystic X (still in jail ore 41f)

I don't know what I want next, kinda waiting to see where the HPA goes, if at all.

I'm waiting for the HPA
No reason to risk my ass getting caught in the turmoil that will likely be the transition when I could spend the money on something else

>>33032158
I'd like you to know that everything you own is really really gay

I've got an AR in 5.56 with a BE Meyers 556 ASR mount, a PTR91, a Glock 19, and a Scorpion EVO 3 I intend to SBR this year if possible.

Right now I'm looking at the SilencerCo Hybrid 46 and the Omega 9K/45K. Any reason to go with the Omega Ks over the Hybrid first? I shoot way more 9mm than 5.56/7.62 because fun, but the Hybrid seems like I'll get a lot more use out of it long-term. My thinking is to get the Hybrid now and get the dedicated Omega K can for pistol calibers later.

>>33032158
you went through months of nfa bullshit for multiple suppressors but still using a brace? nigga wat

>>33029498

>t. manager/rp, major nfa retailer

What are your thoughts on the Hearing Protection Act?

Do you think it'll pass?

Would it be good or bad for the suppressor industry?

>>33030703

Do you have so many FA Machineworks suppressors because of your ties to them, or because you believe they're better (materials or design) or innovative?

Just curious.

>>33029484
>>33029442
Honor Hiram Maxim's life and lineage by calling as he named it, silencers.

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>>33027267

200k

>>33032158
this might be a dumb question, but what do the wraps on the suppressors do?

>>33035607

Cut down on mirage created by the heat rising off the suppressor.

>>33035607
In precision rifle competitions people will wrap their supressors to limit the heat distortion they see through their optics

>>33035635
can confirm mirage is real.... was shooting a SPECWAR 556k on a 10.5" SBR and Vortex Strike Eagle yesterday. I started getting mirage after about 10 rounds

>>33035632
>>33035635
ahhh, thanks anons

>>33035632

Also for handling a hot suppressor or hand protection. Probably see that more on something like a subgun though.

What the fuck do you guys need silencers for?

>>33035671
here's a (you), have a great day friend

Seems best place to ask.

Is here anyway to buy or make an air gun suppressor that doesn't count as a firearm suppressor?
Im supposed to be hunting rats at work but my air gun is a bit to loud for that.

>>33029442
Do you you even own a silencer?
I know your a broke autistic kid living with mommy so probably not, she said no huh?
Its ok draw so more furries and wank off to hickcok45 some more. You can silence your jerk off time the shower running, just dont forget to clean up all your cummies from mummies panties this time....dont want to get caught again

>>33030486
There was no electronic Form 4
>>33034235
There are people who actually believe shouldering a brace manufactures a rifle, so they get an SBR stamp but keep the brace for interstate travel.

>>33035023
>What are your thoughts on the Hearing Protection Act?
shall not be infringed
>Do you think it'll pass?
decent chance, couldn't say
>Would it be good or bad for the suppressor industry?
Both! The GCA banned NFA imports for sale, so imported suppressors will displace a lot of sales. Fortunately, you can only displace so much of a tidal wave.

You will hear and may have heard people blaming the HPA for the absolute lack of suppressor sales. That is absolute bullshit. The answer is that 41F killed silencer sales, and people are 99% unwilling to go through with 41F bullshit. No one who is waiting for the HPA would buy a silencer post-41F if the HPA didn't exist.

>>33035746

Back when I played paintball there was an ATF letter going around that anything that could be used to lower the dB of a gunshot in any measurable way was considered a silencer.

However the letter also noted that if removing it from the airgun would damage or destroy the airgun or the device it didn't count.

That was a long long time ago and has likely been changed to be more restrictive, but you do see factory pellet rifles with moderator style devices on them, which are not detachable.

>>33036188
Thanks.

Now the real question is what does the ATF define as destroying the device

>>33026401
Trust nobody not even yourself

>>33034235
The only real difference between a brace and going full SBR is the ability to make adjustments whenever needed. Also I don't want to deal with 41F because I have 2 other co-trustees on my trust and I don't really want to have to organize everyone and get fingerprints.

>>33035936
>The answer is that 41F killed silencer sales, and people are 99% unwilling to go through with 41F bullshit. No one who is waiting for the HPA would buy a silencer post-41F if the HPA didn't exist.
?
anyone with an anti-gun cleo (like me) was fucking psyched for 41f, it was like christmas

I have several NFA items (sbrs and cans) and I cannot fucking stand when the wait times are this long. I would rather keep my money in my pocket until wait times are down to 2-3 months again than nearly a year.

My first one back in 2011 or so what 5 months and that felt like an eternity.

Cautiously optimistic about HPA but realistically acknowledging that it is probably unlikely.

>>33036922
>I would rather keep my money in my pocket until wait times are down to 2-3 months again than nearly a year.
The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago
The second-best time is today

>>33029484
I call them by name they were patented with.
SILENCER

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Needs more pictures imo.

Waiting on Sandman-L.

>>33029484
sneaky bang hushers

>>33036819
Xerox a trust template, boom no CLEO. Enjoy getting special attention from Barney Fife.

>>33036938

If I didn't already have a decent selection of cans that might be good advice. Now the novelty is largely gone, and while they are nice to have they are not so crucial.

Guess who!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ylYJKezww0

>>33039172
God I wish the people of California would give her a first hand lesson in the intent of the second amendment.

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>>33035766
You aren't funny, kill yourself.

>>33037396
>dead air

Plz go.

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>>33040589
Why? Mike Pappas took care of me very well when he worked at SilencerCo and I have no problem heaping my money before him. Dead Air's Keymo mount is one of the best in the industry.

>>33040770
Pappas and Hughes are good people, I was just fucking with you.

Ever met Mike? He is bloody hilarious with his deadpan sense of humor.

Also, mounting system is called Keymount, the adapters for the Omega/Saker MAAD are called Keymo.

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>tfw nephews birthday is next weekend
>the stamps on the SBR TacSol and Dead Air Mask I bought him haven't shown up yet, even though I got other forms I sent at the exact same time

Fuck.

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Have this stuck in jail right now, hopefully it'll be free in a few weeks. Also have a Form 1 waiting.

>>33040831
>Keymount
I thought mo sounded weird.

Henry Graham is a super rad dude too, but I liked what the Sandman had over the Surge.

>>33041002
Never had any dealing with Henry personally. The rugged stuff I've messed around with was nice, but I like the Dead Air stuff more. The Surge mount is a much improved ASR system, though.

Knowing the guys over at dead air, I'm sure they called it Keymo(Chemo) as a jab at SiCo.

>>33035746
Airguns are already pretty silent

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236129
Holy shit these guys are not only oblivious, but also gigantic bootlickers.