Canada General

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>>33005033
FIRST FOR MAX, THE PRIMARCH OF THE NORTH!

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>>33005033

Spend the 15 bucks and join the CPC to make sure /ourguy/ Max gets the leadership

>>33005236
Anybody seen the latest donation numbers? He's dominating east to west, though O'Leary isn't on the list.
>Also irrelevant but interesting, Le Pen has surged in French election polling

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>>33005347
>pic related

>>33005405
Glad to see he is doing well in Alberta, disappointed by the prairies though. Scheer isn't proposing anything really all that different to Bernier. They just like their homeboy.

Surprised to see Blaney is beating out Bernier though, but not by much. Seeing as how they are both from Quebec.

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>>33005405
>mfw Chong isn't getting shit

canpar lost my shit a week ago, canadaammo doesn't answer their fucking phone or reply to emails. canpar left me a message yesterday saying they are still looking for my shit.

i just cant fucking win.

Can someone make a walk through for dummies on how to vote for a party candidate.

I only barely understand how the political system and parliament works, in theory. I do not know how political parties, let alone the election within them function or work.

Am I foolish to believe that all citizens of the world should have the same right to keep and bear arms as those in the United States?

>>33005955
No
The right to self-defence is something that should be intuitive to everybody, but it's the first thing power-hungry politicians go after

>>33005817
I also want a guide to voting for Mad Max. Though I understand how our government works on a basic level because I don't have autism.

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>>33005955
Not at all. In fact, the former Secretary-General of INTERPOL, the world's highest law enforcement authority, believes the exact same thing.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/exclusive-westgate-interpol-chief-ponders-armed-citizenry/story?id=20637341

https://vimeo.com/165401221

>tl;dr: Based Black UN Police Chief says responsible citizens of the world need to be allowed to carry concealed firearms - Credentialist White-Guilt Cucks on suicide watch

>>33006051
>Not understanding something because school doesn't teach you anything but diversity and feels = autism.

You were ADHD kid weren't you?

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>>33006051
If you become a member of the Conservative party then you pic related happens.

>>33005261

Sounds like northern Quebec DESU.

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>>33006137
>He never googled around or went on Wikipedia for a few minutes of his life to find who was stealing large amounts of his money and how they were using it
You are a fucking idiot my friend.

>>33005973
>>33006094

Well then I guess canadaguns people are just full on fudds then. I understand that Canada has to baby step its way to the right to keep and bear arms but it's still the end goal in term of gun rights.

>>33005817
>>33006051

Are you a CPC member, yet? If not, there's a form you fill out on their website. It costs 15 maple pesos.

If you are a member prior to march 28th, you will receive a mail-in ballot.

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>>33006337
>reddit

There's your problem.

>>33005033
>an example where not activating your Allmands is a good thing

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>>33006414
Member when Canada was good?

>/fit/ pls

>>33006329
>Trusting wikipedia or MSM
Are you always this much of a fudd, buddy?

I read them but they still don't help much, especially when it comes to visualizing how the system works.
Its like you want potential conservatives to vote for trudyboi.

>>33006339
Nope, never been much for political party affiliations, I don't have to send things by fucking mail or check like everything else do i?

>>33006500
>I don't have to send things by fucking mail or check like everything else do i?

You can buy your membership online, but you will have to mail in your ballot unless your local party representatives have a polling station set up in your area.

>>33006519
>You can buy your membership online
Thank fucking god.

Do they start mailing you stuff when you sign up online?

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>>33006500
>He's so paranoid he can't trust Wikipedia to give you a list of facts about how our government works

Email i received today
>Yesterday I announced a full firearms policy for Canada.
>It would make many AR-15s non-restricted.
>It would remove all magazine capacity limits.
>It would take the power to reclassify firearms out of the RCMP and Cabinet, and make it so that all changes to classification require a change to the law, through the House of Commons and Senate.
>And the media?
>Not a chirp.
>No news is good news.
>It means that firearms are becoming less taboo in Canada.
>And that’s a good thing.
>Because we need rational discussion, not fiery emotions.
>We need laws that make sense, and that are based on measurement and results.
>Not laws based on fear.
>It seems like the undeserved stigma against gun owners in Canada might finally be fading.
>But freedom-lovers like myself can’t give up the fight.

I almost came im the middle of my class /ourguy/ is the true lord of the north

>>33006815
Yeah, that's been posted already, the main issue is that he doesn't move all the prohib by names back to NR.

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>>33006922
One step at a time, my man.

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>>33006736
Because a website that anyone with an IQ similar to yours can edit, has merit to tell you how the entire political system and process works. It gives a basic outline and summary at best, but if that's all you need for a perfect %100
I know how everything works I don't need a know more attitude, that's your issue.

Its a shame your so high on the spectrum, otherwise you'd realize how ironic it is for you to repetitively call others autistic, since you have a "speshall understanding of everything XDD!"

>>33006984
Not him but Wikipedia is for the citations you dummy.
Also the % goes after the number, not before.

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Let's talk cuck-barrels for a bit. Anyone here own one of the Glock 26's or Sig P239's from Questar with the 106mm barrels? I like the idea of compact pistols for my babby hands, and I thought I'd inquire if any other anons had any experience with them.

>>33008572
It would be more useful if suppressors were legal.

>>33008572
Whats stopping people from theoretically cutting off the extra nub or swapping out the barrel?

>>33008589
muh laws
muh range

>>33008583
Have you Joined the CPC to vote for Mad Max yet? I imagine he'd look favorable upon a Canadian hearing protection act.

>>33008589
Threat of RCMP inspection for the cut-barrel angle, and the fact that sub-106mm barrels are prohibited devices in themselves in the case of importing/buying original barrels.

>>33008589
The answer is obvious, nothing. It's the same reason minimum length requirements are stupid.

>>33008619

I've been shilling for him constantly, man.

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>>33008711
Dubs for an upstanding citizen and Canadian patriot. Good man.

>>33008572
I have a makarov and a norinco P228 with cuck barrels. You get used to it. As a bonus, you can thread it if there's enough barrel sticking out, and you get a little more muzzle velocity to boot.

A little extra barrel doesn't reduce concealability when holstered, if that's a concern. Width and grip length are the biggest factors for printing through clothes.

>>33008802
>if that's a concern

Why would that be a concern? :^)

>>33008825
If anyone was wondering, Makarovs fit quite well into IWB holsters designed for Bersa Thunders (because finding dedicated Mak holsters is hard). Just need to make sure there's an opening/allowance for the extended barrel.

For convenient carrying at an approved shooting range, of course.

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Did I do good at getting the word out guys?

>>33008632
Well, I got a friend who lives out of the big cities, and there's like 4 cops in the entire town of a few thousand so... He says there is alot of guns there, and .. well look at ops pic, its pretty much sums it up in rural vs urban differences.

>>33008802
I actually don't mind the long barrels that bad, but only out of curiosity of the maximum potential I could get out of a longer barrel. After that, I'd probably start hating them.

Anyone ever order from Durham Outdoors before? I emailed them about a rifle and there English seemed pretty poor.

What am I looking at here?
>>>/wsr/267123

>>33009665
A post on the wrong board.

>>33009654

I spoke with Mike there. Seemed like a decent guy, advised me to avoid the numbers matching M48 that he had because the stock appeared to have some water damage to it.

Still waiting for something else to catch my eye there.

>>33008877
>IWB holsters

First, those quadrupel-doubles are criminally unchecked. Second, do any canadian dealers carry these, or is it not a problem to order from the states?

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>>33006815

Too bad he's right wing on everything.

>that feel when pro-gun lefty

>>33009860

Then speak up about it and don't let whichever party represents you best otherwise to trample on your rights. Not a single person here would be sad if the LPC or NDP stopped being anti-gun retards.

>>33009821
Ok cool, I was thinking of ordering one of there unissued sks but not being able to see it in person makes me a bit werey

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>>33009860
>mfw

So, Red, what constitutes "Right Wing" to you?

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>>33009918

Supporting capitalism.

I will say that proles have to be armed and a massive bureaucratic state a la USSR is a bad idea.

>>33009940
>I will say that proles have to be armed and a massive bureaucratic state a la USSR is a bad idea.

Well, we agree on those two points at least. If you're a revolutionary communist, it also means you've got some nuts, which is more than I can say for the Neoconservative establishment.

>>33009845
No issues getting them from the US. You'll have a hard time finding domestic IWB holsters, for obvious reasons.

>>33009940
Why do you think a worker should not be permitted to sell his labor to someone, on pain of death? Why do you think people shouldn't be permitted to own capital goods?

>>33010072

Because while capitalism is fine on a small scale (do this and I'll give you money), it pretty quickly develops into industrial capitalism, where the capitalists parasitize the workers, systematically undermine democracy, and enrich themselves at everybody's expense. The development of a dominant class ensures that everybody in the subject class is politically and economically disenfranchised. What may seem like free association degenerates into oligarchy. (Libertarian) socialism ensures that nobody becomes subjugated by private institutions and everybody gets a say in economic matters.

>>33010542

Stop shitposting Hoppes.

>>33010022

Highlander Tactical makes a Canadian made IWB holster.

>>33010542
>parasitize the workers
Utter nonsense. There is no fundamental difference between a single business owner asking a worker to do something in exchange for money, and an industrialist asking 100 workers to do the same.

>undermine democracy
Democracy is garbage, there is really nothing to undermine. I will grant you, however, that it is inevitable for large concerns to use the power of the state to their advantage. This is a rational move, since their competition will do the same to their detriment. But it is government power, not capitalism, that is the problem here.

"Libertarian" socialism is not libertarian in any meaningful sense, since it threatens the use of violence against anyone who dares to own capital goods (which are fundamentally no different from any other good). The socialism part of libertarian socialism also fails due to the inherent irrationality of a centrally-planned economy (Mises has an excellent examination of this in "Economic Calculation In The Socialist Commonwealth").

>>33010698
Neat.

>>33006940
Sp00py black gun inna woods? SOMEONE CALL THE POLICE!

>>33010733

>Utter nonsense. There is no fundamental difference between a single business owner asking a worker to do something in exchange for money, and an industrialist asking 100 workers to do the same.


You're right, both large scale and small scale capitalism parasitizes workers. Their only options are starve or work and be paid less than they produce.

>Democracy is garbage, there is really nothing to undermine.

You either have majority rule or minority rule, by definition. Majority rule clearly results in more freedom for more people, since the majority gets what it wants and everybody gets to some level of decision making power. If you support personal freedom you have to support democracy.

>But it is government power, not capitalism, that is the problem here.

As long as capitalism exists the state will exist to serve the interests as capital. Blaming the state in this case is like blaming the gun somebody used to commit a murder. The state is a tool, capital is the hand.

>"Libertarian" socialism is not libertarian in any meaningful sense, since it threatens the use of violence against anyone who dares to own capital goods

And "libertarianism" isn't libertarian in any meaningful sense because private property is based on coercion, the essence of ownership is simply claiming something and saying "this is mine now if you touch it I'll kill you". Socialism on the other hand extends economic and political agency to people they wouldn't have under capitalism by democratizing the economy and removing oligarchy, essentially making them more free.

>The socialism part of libertarian socialism also fails due to the inherent irrationality of a centrally-planned economy

Where did I say anything about central planning? Local planning and co-ops son.

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Non merci, globalists! Country is fine!

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Why is he so perfect, bros

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Since when are filthy commies allowed on this board? Fuck right off.

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>>33011124

>muh right wing safe space

>>33011124
that's my tfw millennials face

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>>33011168
COMMIES GET OUT

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>>33011302

Pepe is a proletarian meme.

>>33006662
I hear Kelly Leitch sends Christmas cards

>>33011168
There is no capital without labour.

>>33008572
I have a G26 from Questar, and a P239 with a factory threaded barrel that I got from CGN EE. I use both in IDPA, a competition shooting discipline which requires drawing the pistol from concealment. I enjoy them and haven't had any trouble. Despite the rampant Glocknade/Exetershit memes bandied around here, both are high-quality and made by reliable, reputable manufacturers. If you like or have experience with the full-size Glocks and Sigs, these will be familiar pistols in a smaller package.

If your hands are merely small, and not tiny; or if concealment is not a factor, you may want to go with true compact pistols, such as the G19 or P225/P228/P229/M11. G26 and P239 are listed as sub-compacts by their respective manufacturers.

That said, they're such cute little mouseguns, how can you say no? Just remember the wisdom of Patrick Star: "When in doubt, pinkie out." You have to do the Victorian tea-time pinkie finger extend to get it out of the way during magazine changes. Also on the subject of pinkie fingers: G19/G17 mags will fit in the G26, and the P239 has 10-round extendo mags available. Both will probably end up pinching your finger now and then when firing.

>>33009224
nice one, gave me a chuckle

>>33011388
>If your hands are merely small, and not tiny
I wish that were my problem. I'm a serious handlet. I find the Sig P226 unusable and the M&P9 uncomfortable, but functional. Subcompacts are my only hope in the world, it seems.

>>33011440
Oh shit, son, I thought you had finally gotten v& by the bolice after your last thread. Manage to find a good holster for your Rhino yet?

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>>33010850
Ermahgerd call the po-leece

>>33011468
No, haven't been looking yet. Need to finish up a few things.
>Mfw the future purchased I may have access to would make /k/ shit themself
Think I'll avoid posting them here. You lot call me RCMP as is, I'll never lose that notion if I do.

>>33010939
>Their only options are starve or work
pic related

>paid less than they produce
This is a nonsensical concept. They get paid the amount they agreed to. Their product gets sold for more than that, otherwise there would be no point in employing them in the first place.

Capital owners are not "parasites". They engage in production (and the accumulation of capital required for it) in order to make money. In order to do so, they must use up their savings, or accrue liabilities in the form of loans. Workers undertake no such risk; they simply come in and exchange their labor for money. Whether the product of that labor sells in sufficient quantity and at sufficient price to make the whole exercise worthwhile is the owner's problem.

> If you support personal freedom you have to support democracy.
No. Would you democratize the use of your car to the community? To your city? To the entire country? Of course not, because giving other people power over your property is reducing, rather than increasing, your personal freedom. Such is the case with land, machinery, clothes, and any other good in existence.

>As long as capitalism exists the state will exist to serve the interests as capital
Wrong. The state existed before capitalism. It existed under communism. Clearly its existence is independent of any particular economic idea. It is certainnly in the interest of large cronyist firms to maintain state power, but that doesn't mean the state is an inevitable result of capitalism.

>the essence of ownership is simply claiming something and saying "this is mine now if you touch it I'll kill you"
Correct. This is how humans, and many other animals, secure property of any kind. Under """libertarian""" socialism, would everyone's t-shirts and cars be publicly owned?

>co-ops
There are no legislative barriers to forming a co-op right now, over those of traditional businesses. Why aren't co-ops the dominant business model?

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>>33011841
>pic related
goddamn fuck

>>33011457

If your fingers have trouble with reaching controls on and gripping a P226, consider this: the G26 is just a cut-down G17. The grip still has the thickness; and it has the same distance to reach the trigger, mag release, and slide release of a full-size double-stack. G26 might actually be too big for you, but you should be able to get a good hold on the single-stack P239. Hell, a single-stack full-size might work for you.

Problem with the P239 is that it's not a common pistol to encounter in a brick-and-mortar gun store to finger-fuck and see how it fits. As for other single-stack 9mm's, only one I can think of that is likely to be in a gun store would be a Norinco 1911 in 9mm.

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>>33011841

>pic related

I realize that the obligation to work isn't man made, but that doesn't change the fact that the relationship between the worker and employer isn't voluntary. Just because the boss isn't the one coercing the worker doesn't mean the worker isn't coerced. That being the case, we need to stop pretending that capitalism is the free association of individuals, because when your options are work or starve it clearly isn't. We can't control the fact that people have to work, but we can control the conditions and relations under which they work, and make it so that they aren't hierarchical and dictatorial, but instead conditions where everybody has agency and decision making capacity.

>They get paid the amount they agreed to.

Except they have no real negotiating power because of the over abundance of labour and the fact that they are threatened with starvation otherwise.

>Capital owners are not "parasites". They engage in production (and the accumulation of capital required for it) in order to make money.

Except they don't, a capitalist simply owns the capital, the workers engage in production. The capitalist doesn't actually contribute anything to the process, since even their initial capital is returned to them when they make back their investment. The vast majority of owners do not directly engage in the managing of their business, and even those that do the actual labour that they contribute is totally mismatched to the level of control they exert over the enterprise and the wealth they take home, their reward doesn't match their contribution.

>Workers undertake no such risk; they simply come in and exchange their labor for money.

And why should the workers have to pay the capitalist for a risk that they undertook of their own accord for personal gain? Every time I do something risky do I have the right to demand money from people?

1/2

>>33013363
>>33011841

>No. Would you democratize the use of your car to the community?

Personal vs private property. Property that is used for economic production is private, property that's for personal use is personal. It's an important distinction. The ownership of private property is something that by definition only capitalists do, and the necessary result of it is the oligarchic control over production (and by extension politics) that disenfranchises the vast majority of people. By collectivizing private property, that dictatorial domination of the economy ends, and the average person gains economic agency, expanding their personal freedom.

>Wrong. The state existed before capitalism. It existed under communism. Clearly its existence is independent of any particular economic idea.

The state is the tool for the domination of one class over another, so yes it existed before capitalism and it will exist under feudalism, but that doesn't change what it is.

>It is certainnly in the interest of large cronyist firms to maintain state power, but that doesn't mean the state is an inevitable result of capitalism.

And how are capitalists going to maintain their property without the state? If you take the state out of the equation you're just cutting out the middle man, capitalists will just use bare faced violence to exploit people and rig the system instead of going through the state.

>Correct. This is how humans, and many other animals, secure property of any kind. Under """libertarian""" socialism, would everyone's t-shirts and cars be publicly owned?

Of course not, but the difference here is I'm not spinning some phony narrative about my system being free of coercion. I'm trying to implement whatever system provides the greatest freedom for the greatest number. Socialism ensures more equitable distribution of wealth, endows everybody with economic agency, and protects the political system from subversion by capitalists.

>>33011841

>Why aren't co-ops the dominant business model?

Because they are at an inherent disadvantage when compared to a hierarchical business, just as a democracy is at a disadvantage compared to a dictatorship. But the question I'm concerned with isn't which one is more efficient, but which one provides greater freedom to the workers and addresses their needs most effectively.

>>33013429
Well you could start by ceasing to support politicians who flood the market with surplus labour that is more than willing to work substandard conditions since the conditions are still better than what they had back home. After that encourage economic growth so that there is a labour shortage. After that there is plenty going in favour of the average worker, since they are more than capable of switching to a better quality job.

>>33013488

I'm actually not in favour of large scale immigration. I just want to make sure that the immigrants already here get treated fairly.

>>33005426
Fucking Leitch, I would hate her if I didn't know her family.

>>33013789
You have this slight issue wherein all the left wing politicians want to massively ramp up immigration which in turn devalues labour, and that in turn has a massive negative effect on the bargaining status of all workers.

>>33014307
In terms of immigration (regardless of the moral issue with taking in refugees and such) this stops me from wanting to take people in en mass like the left wing politicians want to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

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>>33014307

I know, and I lament that fact. I wish more left leaning parties would clamp down on immigration and expand gun rights, but unfortunately liberals are idiots.

>>33014349
>implying liberals nowadays aren't literally globalist shills trying to bring about a NWO by any means possible
George Soros is behind everything. Don't forget his son (who is completing his Doctorate) is going to Berkeley.

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>>33014467

Soros is a porky billionaire, and globalism is the domination of international capita at labour's expense. I'm not in favour of either.

What's the worst candidate for the leadership race? The way i'm seeing it is on this scale. Top is best with the worst at the bottom like they belong.
Mad Max
Steven Blaney
Kellie Leitch
Pierre Lemieux?
Andrew Scheer
Erin Toole
Andrew Saxton?
Rick Peterson
Brad Trost
Lisa Raitt (Partially biased)
Micheal Chong
Deepak Shitskin
O'Leary
Chris Alexander

>>33015044
>Cheech ahead of Chris Alexander

Wat

>>33006922
He fixed that. Original webpage posted had a clause in the prohibited section saying it would keep all prohibited firearms that were labelled that before2016. But it was updated and now just says he supports the CPC simplified classification system as per their policy that was determined last year. It doesn't include that clause.

>>33015175
Yep, even have him answering the questions like many of the other candidates have here:

http://www.freemindrepublic.com/news/2017/2/15/meeting-the-leadership-candidates-maxime-bernier

>>33010939
That's not their only option. If they don't like being paid less than the value of what they produce, they're free to produce themselves. What's that, they can't make a giant factory with expensive machining tools and production machinery? Huh. Weird.

And there's another option from minority rule or majority rule. no rule at all. No powerful state controlling everything.

>>33013363
The only thing coercing the worker is the fact that he gets hungry if he doesn't eat. Go cry about being oppressed by nature. It's still a voluntary agreement. If he doesn't want to work for someone, he can work for himself. You know, self-employed people exist anon.

>>33013363
Contributing and risking capital in an investment counts as contributing. Without that investment of capital the production wouldn't happen and the jobs wouldn't exist in the first place.

>>33014349
>Be against immigration
>Be for gun rights
>Still vote LP or NDP

Seriously anon?

>>33015212
It's almost like you need someone to invest their money and risk losing it to buy machinery to produce things and hire the workers.....huh

Maybe there should be some sort of reward for those people, otherwise nobody would ever take the risk...

>>33015285
But then that company/corporation would be a killing machine /s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5PwQKW62to

>>33009860
Commies not welcome.

>>33015212

>That's not their only option. If they don't like being paid less than the value of what they produce, they're free to produce themselves. What's that, they can't make a giant factory with expensive machining tools and production machinery? Huh. Weird.

Well actually they can, and they do. Workers build the factories and make the machines. The owners under capitalism just serve the role of managing the flow of capital, which can be handled in other ways, like through a central banking system. All you need is an alternate method of allocating capital.

>And there's another option from minority rule or majority rule. no rule at all

Impossible, humans are social animals, they live in groups and have to make collective decisions. This is unavoidable, and either you hand decision making capacity to everybody or you give it to an elite.

>>33015241

Self employment isn't a viable alternative in practice. 80% of businesses fail within ten years, so it's not a real long term solution. Not to mention that even if it were, the system requires that the majority of people be workers, otherwise there would be nobody to produce anything.

>>33015255

Again, all that requires is an alternate system of allocating capital resources. The capitalist isn't actually contributing anything because all the capital that they contribute is returned to them in the form of profits produced by the workers.

>>33015270

I despise the LP, and I barely tolerate the NDP. I can still support their other policies without supporting gun control and immigration.

>>33015285

Again, this is just a question of a mechanism for allocating capital goods. This can be done collectively and democratically, since capital would be owned publicly, the capitalist themself isn't actually necessary.

If Mad Max gets elected and he passes the firearm legislation that he wants to pass, what would happen to firearm industry?

>>33015755
>Canadian-made AR's
>Canadian-made AR's everywhere

>>33015175
Did he, do you have a link to this? I'd be super happy if he fixed that.

>>33015869
I almost have to wonder how many people would start threading their barrels (if they don't already have threaded barrels).

>>33015884
You can see that here: http://www.maximebernier.com/a_fair_gun_policy_for_canada

and more here:>>33015208

>>33005405
You think Fudd provinces like the prairies would have donated more to letyoukeepurguns Bernier

>>33015917
>he thinks people should be able to use suppressors, wants to get rid of magazine restrictions, and wants firearm classification to be about barrel length

And yet there are still people in here who aren't voting for him, somehow

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>>33016018
I don't get it either man.

Anybody got a 22" M305? I have a question.

>>33016018
Well what do you expect out of leftists?

>>33015965
Is that a question or a statement?

>>33009224
Stop posting Phillip.

>>33015044
Steven blaney screwed us though. He's absolutely terrible.

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>Oggle this VZ.58 qtp2t

Apparently they've made VZ.58 airsoft riflesand is completely upgradeable and can swap out for wood furniture, full steel body, and programmable battery, so you can take your /k/anadian Ak out onto a field and shoot fellow /k/lansmen

http://www.torontoairsoft.com/ARES-SA-VZ-58--AEG-Rifle_p_4729.html

Also we /k/anakuck Ak thread meow.

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>>33016255
SkS-Ak

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>>33016255

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>>33016255
Also I haven't checked up on the status of VZ.58's lately
Are they still restricted?

Are they gonna get more relaxed laws for them if we can shill Mad Max onto our ppl? Are they gonna become cheaper if he does come in?

>>33016250

Steven Blaney did a much better job of reigning in the RCMP than his predecessor.

Imagine if you had everyone you were in charge of actively trying to fuck you over.

>>33016562

The Czech aren't really producing them anymore. They've moved on to other guns.

There's some Canadian-produced guns on the way, though.

>>33011851
Strawman, no-one is saying that food should just fall out of the sky. In your naturalist imagining, you could go innawoods and hunt a deer or find a patch of fertile land and farm it for food to support yourself. But try that in a capitalist society: even if you find a patch of land that no-one is using and you could support yourself on, some guy is going to come by and say that it's his and use the power of the state to kick you off. Wage-slavery is not about having to work to live, it's that the only work available is for the capitalist since he's obtained a monopoly on the means of production and uses state power to enforce it.

>>33016609
Yeah, I can sympathize. However, Bernier is still the better candidate at the end of the day.

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>>33016629
There's a factory in canada that is making them??
Also why would Czech stop making them? They're literally printing money cause Canadians want Ak's and have nothing to choose from but the VZ.58's or if they're really up to it converting an SkS into one which takes time and money

>>33016727
Not VZ58s, and the Czechs are still making them, just in much smaller numbers since they're trying to fill army orders and also fill the US demand for the Skorpians.

>>33016562
NR/R based on barrel length, I own an NR VZ58.

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>>33016699
That's fucking bullshit, my grandparents used part of their friends farm to grow veggies and fruit, and my grandfather would hunt and ground deer and elk mixed with pork and make sausage and patties and steak, living like that you barely need to buy anything when grocery shopping other than things you can't grow or a pain in the ass to make

>>33016713

He definitely has my #1 slot, but I'm probably putting Blaney as #2.

>>33016727

The Czech are making CZ 805's and the new Skorpion instead.

The domestically made one is the "WR762". Not out yet.

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Stop talking about non-firearms politics on the firearms board.

>>33016763
>>33016699
I agree with >>33016781 on this. Either a) Stop the conversation there or b) take it to /pol/ or some other venue

We wanna talk about Canadian gun ownership and guns we own and shit.

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>>33016772
Are the domestics gonna be naturally cheaper? Also I'm happy they aren't some AR looking shit and looks exactly the same as the old VZ.58's

>Here's a VZ Pistol a la Draco Ak pistol

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>>33016860
>>33016255

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>>33016873

>>33016860
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1463896-WR762-rifle

>>33016896
Neat, it'd be interesting for someone to create a vz58 in 7.62x45

>>33017180
>7.62x45
?

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>>33015044
I don't know too much about candidates besides O'Leary, Leitch, and Bernier, can I get a quick rundown on blaney, lemieux, shitskin, and Chris Alexander?

>>33017210

7.62x45 was the Czech service round before 7.62x39 was forced down their throats by the Russians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62%C3%9745mm

>>33016781
>>33016836
If the commies would fuck off we wouldn't feel obligated to shit on their beliefs

>>33017180
No-body ever will. Too obscure of a round. There were talks of a .308 version, but nothing ever came of it. Right now there are some calls for a 5.45x39 version that might actually happen.

>>33017214
Short of you looking up the candidates and their policies, and decide for yourself, I have some copypasta I saved from /Pol/ I could post.

Most of the canucks here like Bernier since he has some pretty good stances on firearms, and other policies.

>>33017214
>>33017340

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEWlNTT33v8

>>33017295
A battle rifle vz58 would be pretty cool.

>>33017419
From 2012
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-832875.html

>>33017232
Neato, seems like a better cartridge all around.

>>33010698

I know the guy that runs it from work, I got my P-09 holster from him.

Good stuff, would recomend

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>>33015208
>Legalized suppressors

>>33017366
>Rebel media
Great source, sure it'll be an unbiased look

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>>33016629
CZ isn't producing them anymore
Czechs are still producing VZ58, CSA is a Czech company that makes better quality and a bit more expensive variant (which btw was always made by the book, so was not part of the 858 ban)

>>33016444
>>33016860
>>33016873
>>33016894
>tfw 11.8" barrel version is the sexiest version, but it's Restricted :'(

>>33017667
>P09
Nice, I've been eyeing one of those for a little while. How nice are they?

>>33018040
11.8" mustard race

>>33018035

The comparisons are apt.

Whether you agree with how they feel about the candidates is irrelevant.

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Hi /k/anucks, I was wondering if you anon could tell me if I can use 6.5mm mannlicher in my 6.5 x55 swedish mauser. Pic related, it's the ammo.

>>33018758
No, the dimensions aren't close enough. It's very rare to have interchangeable calibers.

>>33013363
>when your options are work or starve it clearly isn't
This is the case for all economic systems. Since it is a given for all humans, we do not count it as "coersion" because it takes no active effort on someone else's part to engage in it. As such, interaction between worker and employer is perfectly voluntary so long as neither side acts aggressively toward the other.

>no real negotiating power
Funny, most skilled people have plenty negotiating power. Labor, like anything else, derives its exchange value from the subjective values of the other party. It just so happens that unskilled labor, which is plentiful, has comparatively less value for most people than skilled labor. That isn't the fault of capitalism, that's a fact of life. You cannot change the economic system by decree and expect this fundamental economic fact to disappear.

> their reward doesn't match their contribution.
How can you, or anyone, possibly make this judgment?

>why should the workers have to pay the capitalist for a risk that they undertook of their own accord for personal gain?
Because that is the condition of having somewhere to work. If someone does not undertake the risks associated with capital investment, all that labor will be sitting around with thumbs deep in their asses. Again, labor, like everything else, has no inherent value.

>Personal vs private property. It's an important distinction
It's an arbitrary and nonsensical distinction. There is no fundamental difference between a milling machine and a chair. To allow the individual ownership of one but not the other is absurd. Not to mention the absolute philosophical and practical disaster that comes with declaring all "means of production" as being "collectively owned". You can have no consistent formulation of property rights when you start creating vague arbitrary lines between permitted and prohibited property.

>>3301336
(cont.)
>capitalists will just use bare faced violence to exploit people and rig the system
Capitalists will use bare faced violence to protect their rightful property from invasion and theft, just as you would your home from a burglar or attacker. Your "solution" would be using the power of the state to act as that attacker.

>managing the flow of capital, which can be handled in other ways, like through a central banking system
Centrally-planned anything is a horrific disaster. We've seen this every single time, but socialists just won't give up.

>All you need is an alternate method of allocating capital.
There is no better way to allocate capital than through the free market. It is the only method consistent with any sane and internally consistent theory of rights.

>because all the capital that they contribute is returned to them in the form of profits produced by the workers.
That is the entire point of investing in capital. If there was no reward, nobody would do it. Who in the flying fuck would risk their savings for the chance to get those same savings back in a few years?

>>33016699
>even if you find a patch of land that no-one is using and you could support yourself on, some guy is going to come by and say that it's his
Is his claim just? If you homesteaded that land, it is yours. If you show up on someone else's property and declare it yours because you feel like it, you're damn right the owner will protest.

What would you do if some bums came into your house while you were away, and laid claim to it because you "weren't using it" at the time?

The "means of production" is just capital goods, no different from any other property. Just because your parasite ass wants what someone else has, doesn't entitle you to steal it from them.

>>33015044
>>33017214
Pierre Lemieux was my MP for a while, I didn't even know he was in the race. I wouldn't expect anything on gun laws from him quite as drastic as what Mad Max is proposing.

>>33019720
>drastic
Sensible.

>>33019720

Drastically AWESOME.

>>33019897
>>33019903
Everything is relative, especially when you live in KEKADA

>>33019549
>>when your options are work or starve
>This is the case for all economic systems. Since it is a given for all humans, we do not count it as "coersion" because it takes no active effort on someone else's part to engage in it.
It's literally a fundamental law of the universe. Thermodynamics rules everything.

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>>33019971
Leftists can't deal with this, so they go after those who have more than them instead.

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>>33018040
I saw a YouTube video where a guy was shooting a VZ Pistol with a 5 round pin mag, so I thought he may be /k/anadian

https://youtu.be/UEYbFKwHC3Q

Also VZ Pistol is best VZ..

>>33020082
It is kind of scary to face the fact that poverty, pain, and disease, is the default condition of existence

gives you something to be thankful for though

>>33020243
But on the flip side, it is amazing that through generations of human ingenuity and struggle, we have overcome so much of that. And our beloved weapons are a part of that success.

For me (and probably others here), the appeal of owning guns goes beyond just a fun hobby. Guns are a tool of freedom, a symbol of human industry and creativity, and a manifestation of power. The abstract side of guns does it for me just as much as the practical side.

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When is one of old rich maplecucks on CGN going to nut up and buy the new T97 Gen 2? We need a proper review to know if Norc did anything other than slap a rail an a new charging handle on the same old rifle or if they did anything to address mag release, magwell and most importantly feed ramp issue (mostly the lack of a feed ramp, that caused all of the feeding issues with bullet pushed back into casing and powder all over your receiver issue)???
>not that making a feedramp would necessarily help, apparently Tokfag had it done and the issue persisted

>>33020987
Well we'll see what happens there. Can't exactly count on that to happen. I'm hoping it's a better rifle though, since it's still reasonably cheap compared to the alternatives.

>>33021848
>reasonably cheap
I'd say a third of the price is better than "reasonably" cheap.

>>33021909

I mean, you can get a SU-16 for under 1200 maple pesos...

http://frontierfirearms.ca/kel-tec-su-16f-223-tactical/

>>33021999

Except the SU16 is a plastic piece of crap.

>>33022025

And the Type-97 isn't?

>>33005236
>Not God Emperor
I dont want Canada to inherit such a meme similar to "Make Canada Great Again" for originality purposes but really he's OUR God Emperor. I dont care about what those oil jews have and what they think of Trump as.

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>>33009860
what >>33009879 said.
speak up and force the left to acknowledge that there are liberals that are pro-gun.
politics should not be black and white my friend.

>>33020987
It mostly worked. Might have just needed breaking in. I hear they have swappable ambi mag releases and AR-style selectors now. I don't care-my trades wound me up with my HK. And there's more to come.
>Tfw tonight's Oilers game was so good
Mmmm, can't wait for tomorrow's CHED sport segments.

>>33022100
>mostly worked
you put time and money into fixing the issue
you bought a ridiculously expensive original scope to fit the gun
had it worked at all, you wouldn't have sold it (considering, if it became reliable, you would have a cheap reliable bullpup + the aforementioned investments you already made into the rifle)

that's what really puts me off, that some T97 are beyond help. it's one thing to roll the dice on perfect rifle vs one that needs work, as opposed to a range of perfectly functional to one that can't even be made reliably by a gunsmith

>>33022058

Feel free to photoshop it yourself.

>>33019549

>This is the case for all economic systems.

I know that, you're missing the point. I'm saying that because this is universal, if you value freedom then the relations under which people are compelled by nature to work ought not to be dictatorial as they are under capitalism. Instead everybody should receive agency instead of being just a drone lining a capitalist's pockets.

>Since it is a given for all humans, we do not count it as "coersion" because it takes no active effort on someone else's part to engage in it.

Even if it's not technically coercion, that doesn't make it voluntary either. For the worker there is no difference between starvation and a gun to their head. Even if the capitalist didn't put that gun there, he is still taking advantage of their position. It doesn't become voluntary just because death by starvation is a looming threat for everybody. When you are threatened with death as a result of non-compliance with the system then the system isn't voluntary.

>You cannot change the economic system by decree and expect this fundamental economic fact to disappear.


"It's a fact of life" isn't an argument, and actually if you abolish the market, or fundamentally alter the way in which it operates (like implementing co-ops) you change the principle on which the economy operates. In a utility based economy labour prices would be fixed, and supply would be tailored to demand rather than the two constantly fluctuating.

>How can you, or anyone, possibly make this judgment?


Simple. The amount of labour they put into the company doesn't reflect the wealth they extract from it. Of course this only applies to capitalists that actually add value to their companies by managing them directly, which the vast majority of them don't.

cont.

>>33024316
>>33019549

>If someone does not undertake the risks associated with capital investment, all that labor will be sitting around with thumbs deep in their asses.

This is only true in a capitalist system of resource allocation. If you have an alternate system of capital allocation this problem dissapears.

>It's an arbitrary and nonsensical distinction.

How so? It's an easy to determine distinction calculated to bring about a specific state of affairs. Governments decide what property can and can't be owned all the time, somehow society hasn't collapsed because of it.

>Capitalists will use bare faced violence to protect their rightful property from invasion and theft, just as you would your home from a burglar or attacker.

What makes property "rightful"? Nothing. All property has origins in nature, it can only be obtained by appropriating it when it is "unowned", but I would argue that there is no qualitative difference between unowned and collectively owned property. A piece of "unowned" land is open to be used by anybody, making it in practice owned by everybody. If somebody then appropriates it and excludes others from using it, they have committed an act of aggression backed by violence against the community.

>Centrally-planned anything is a horrific disaster.

You realize corporations engage in central planning on a global scale right?

>There is no better way to allocate capital than through the free market. It is the only method consistent with any sane and internally consistent theory of rights.

That's not an argument.

>That is the entire point of investing in capital. If there was no reward, nobody would do it.

Again, just implement an alternate system of resource allocation. Problem solved.

http://www.poletical.com/cpcldr-conservative-leadership.php

>O'leary at 26%
>Bernier at 20%

>>33022046

I never said it wasn't.

>>33022398
I paid $20 to put a feed ramp in. I could have done it myself, but I'm lazy.
I bought the YMA because they're rare and interesting. I also had the CanadaAmmo rail and a TRS on it. Cheap and effective.
I didn't sell it because it was a bad gun, I sold it because an AR fit me better. I'm pretty damn tall, and the LOP was a bit short for me. Otherwise, I loved that little gun, and will likely buy another.

>>33024366
What's the point of posting an irrelevant poll? /pol/tards probably joined up to get O'Leary on top

>>33022398
I would have just bought a Vz if I'd known better, my T97 was my second rifle and it's a lemon

>>33024316
So whhat would you prefer? Everyone be given an acre to farm for themselves and just live off that? Then they can take their excess produce to where? Keep it for themselves? How would they get the equiptment to work the land? Who is going to build their house? Themselves? Where are they going to get the materials?

You say 1 in 10 businesses fail. The people who invest their savings into them but can't stay afloat. Should there be no risk involved? If there is no risk, then where is the incentive to succeed? I know in the neighbourhood of 20 business owners. All of them work harder than anyone they employ.

Thread is dead

>>33025249

There are lots of alternatives. Market socialism (ie free market with co-ops) combined with a central bank that lends money at low interest rates to startups would certainly be doable. This could be combined with a syndicalized economy, where production of certain industries is handled by semi-autonomous democratically run syndicates that produce goods in accordance with demand related to them by locally planned economies.

>>33026337
If you ran a company would you want it to succeed? Would the 16 yearold that you pay to sweep the floor and wash the windows care as much as you? He should still make as much as you right?

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>>33026291
Then post VZ Pistol you heathen.

>>33026368

I wouldn't want to run a company so the question is moot. And if it did succeed it would be because the workers produce the products that you sell.

>>33026539
Not if everyone "hired" automated machines instead, it seems that the best way to not "exploit" the workers is to not hire workers, but to invest in robots and machines. Be the boss, and technician and won't have to deal with other people.

But your a ideologue so you will still claim that its still oppression and exploiting someone somewhere somehow, because capitalism.

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>>33026481

I'm going to the doctor to get tested for ADD and depression. If he confirms the diagnosis can I still buy guns? I'm getting my PAL in two weeks?

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>>33026966

>>33026971
If you already got your pal approved they can't stop you.

>>33026990
I don't. Unfortunately my appointment was booked two weeks before getting my sitting for the PAL.

>>33026990
They can take it away.

>>33024366
Bernier is catching up!

>>33024382
Well, if I'm buying a POS plastic rifle in 5.56, it'll probably be a SU-16. Then I'll make an aluminium receiver for it, muahahaha!

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>>33011113
>that Québecois blood
>those conservative principles

>>33011507
Tok Guy pls

>>33016860
I'm happy someone is picking up the mantle, but what does "made in Canada" mean? The few photos we've seen have shown a lot of what looks like surplus parts (sights, dust covers, furniture), and Westrifle is also axing the barrel mount for a traditional press fit.

So are the WR762s just parts kits on US/Canadian receivers? Will they be a limited run if they are built on surplus? The thread on CGN is kind of sad to read as people seem to believe that a company that has never been into manufacturing or designing is doing both, or in contract with a company doing both.

>>33028440
After his shitposting with that rifle I have my doubts that he is indeed RCMP, but it would be also safe to assume he is considering that rifle is nice and prohib. Unless Tok is also John from marstar. Although Tok isn't a scum bag shit head like John is.

>>33006940
is that a utg xenon light?

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>>33028571
>Only RCMP can get access to Prohibs!
>
There are tons out there, hidden away and never turned in when they were banned, or restored from dewats. You just need to get to know the old farts who have them, or someone who does. That's all. I simply know people who know people, or who have Prohibs that were willing to let them go.

>>33026764

Actually I would welcome automation since it would make capitalism obsolete. If nobody has to work that we can provide anything anybody needs for free. Fully automated luxury communism.

>>33029808
>Admitting to breaking every gun law in Canada
How many proxies do you have set up you mad man. You'll need those guns when the Gestapo kick down your door one day.

so do people still use beowulf mags and 25 rd 10/22 mags? what if a fudd reports you?

>>33029953
it is well established that he is rcmp/csis

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>>33029953
DON'T JUST STAND THERE, COME ON IN

>>33029995
Challenge the RCs in court with a good lawyer and win mad shekels, because those uppity cunts WILL lose.
>>33030005
>Well established
Salty anons on a Peruvian tile-setting forum don't establish anything, nigger.

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>pic related

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>>33030017
Idk why but my god I laughed hard. Lol

What was everyone's 2nd and 3rd choice for CPC leader, assuming everyone picked Max for the first slot.

>>33030338
Accept no substitutes.
Bernier is the only one with any sort of charisma.

>>33030338
>Many Conservative-identifying people admonish the idea of electoral reform, such as implementing Alternative Voting instead of the usual FPTP
>they do alternative voting internally
Seriously nigga?

>>33030444
Whatever, I'll pick o tool and blaney.

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shopping on amazon.ca for a light and m-lok rail.
>the prices

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what is this shit?

>Order CZ 527 from Tenda
>A few hours after placing the order start experiencing car issues
>Figure I should cancel the and look into my car first
>Send them a message via their website
>They don't respond until over a day later
>Rifle has already shipped
>"Just refuse the package when it shows up and we'll refund you when we get it back"
Fucks sake this is what I was hoping to avoid. Now I'm gonna have to pay to have it shipped back because these guys can't check their emails.

>>33030444

It's a ranked ballot.

>>33030545

Reasonable choices.

>>33028530
Seems new production. Near as I can tell they're made by Kodiak Defense, at least from what WR is saying. Seems to be a contract job, and while it isn't KD's first machining adventure, it is the first time they're making a whole new rifle. I do believe they'll be licensed Canadian made rifles though.

>>33030812
If you don't accept the package you don't have to pay return shipping. Just deny it, or ignore it if it ends up at the post office, or tell them it was sent incorrectly.

>>33031007
Oh really? That's good to know, thanks.

>>33030769
Money laundering operation.

>>33030824
I think hes virtue signalling. Prob didn't even vote.

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If you had little money, and were devoted to Mad Max winning the election like a war boy is devoted to Immortan Joe, what would you do to help him win? Purely a hypothetical question of course.

>>33015755
Well I know I would buy an AR that's for sure

>>33031909
Make it so that his name is the only one left on the ballot?

>>33018701
I like it quite a bit. I am about 1000 rounds into it so far, I have had 2 stoppages, both with the same box of WarTac factory reloaded ammo but no problems with any other ammo. The controls are large and well placed, recoil is soft and easily controlled, trigger is pretty good though I can only compare against a p226 and a Hi Power which Ive used at work.

Over all I would recommend it as Im pretty sure those 2 stoppages were the fault of me trying to save 4 dollars on ammo

>>33031909
Is it viable to meme him for culture to get Quebeckers to support him more? Like for showing him to respect and cherish Canadian culture and francophone stuff. I know hes from Quebec already, but is he meme-able in that way? My french is google translate tier.

>>33032628
>Meme him for culture
Learn English before you learn French

Wanted to run a small poll by the /k/anada General.

Wanted to get second gun, already have restricted, have it narrowed down to a Marlin Guide for funsies and moose/caribou, an O/U 12g so I can go bird hunting with my dad, or a wheelgat of some flavour, probably .357 or .44 mag. Suggestions, comments, insults?

>>33024316
>not an argument
If you insist on going down this road,

>being just a drone lining a capitalist's pockets
(not an argument)

>For the worker there is no difference between starvation and a gun to their head.
(not an argument) Since the capitalist is subject to exactly the same natural pressures, we discard this idea of coersion because it is a given for everyone at all times. Inequality of possessions is not coersion.

>abolish the market
(not an argument) "Abolishing" the market is literally impossible. There is no such thing as a "utility based economy". This whole line of reasoning belies a laughable understanding of economics.

>amount of labor they put into the company doesn't reflect the wealth they extract
(not an argument) Labor has no inherent value. Nothing has inherent value. The wealth they get out of the deal is the reward for initial capital investment. There is nothing coersive about this. Nor is anyone qualified to dictate what is and isn't an acceptable amount of reward.

>alternate system of capital allocation
ie. a coersive and decidedly un-libertarian one. Why you insist on calling yourself a libertarian I don't know, because you don't seem to exhibit any features thereof.

>governments decide what property can and can't be owned all the time
(not an argument) A supposed libertarian appealing to a government's arbitrary actions as being authoritative and objective? Complete non sequitur. Also doesn't address the question; on what objective grounds do you distinguish between the right to own a chair, but not a milling machine?

>>33024353
(cont.)
>A piece of "unowned" land is open to be used by anybody, making it in practice owned by everybody
This doesn't follow. A piece of unowned land is "ownable" by everybody, meaning it is up for grabs. There is no fundamental difference between an unowned apple on a tree in a wild orchard, and the land that tree sits on. To claim that land is magically "everyone's" property would be to claim that all things in nature are collectively owned. Collective ownership is a completely unworkable concept, and also one that is at odds with human nature. Must you ask permission from 7 billion people before you cut down a sapling in a forest and fashion it into a fishing rod? Or are you only permitted one 7-billionth of that sapling for your personal use?

>central planning on a global scale
That is central planning within a unified organization, producing a discrete range of goods and services. You don't see the difference between this and centrally planning an entire economy?

>not an argument
It is absolutely an argument. You cannot claim to have a consistent theory of rights (particularly property) when you arbitrarily discard half of them.

>alternate system of resource allocation
Resources are not allocated in a free market. Wealth is not distributed. There is no central authority dictating where things go. Your system may very well be a system of allocation, but again, it is not libertarian in any way.

>>33029827
> I would welcome automation since it would make capitalism obsolete
On this we agree. Full economic automation renders all extant economic systems irrelevant (at least to any significant extent). We Culture soon, get hype.

>>33032681
What's the point of a lever gun for moose/bear/whatever defence when shotguns are cheaper and faster?

>>33032744
Nothing other than repeaters are sweet.

>>33032681
What would you get the most use out of?
If wheelgat, I highly suggest a Rhino. My god this thing is great to shoot.

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>>33032781
Reee CAPTCHA stop eating my images

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>>33032712
>>33032730
buds, please take this discussion to /pol/, /his/, or /biz/.

>>33032781
I love the look of the Rhino, but the [spoiler]seam[/spoiler] kills it for me.

I'd probably get the most use out of the Guide. O/U would be more practical, plus manly bonding, but I peel more caps at the range than I do hunting by a factor of 50.

>>33005405
>>33015965
>>33016018

There is many people out here who outright refuse to support Bernier because"REEEEEEEEEE, I don't want another PM from Quebec, REEEEEEEEE"...

Yes, it's that silly.

>>33032993
I don't even notice the SEAM anymore.

>>33032665
kek

>>33032628
Sure, if we had a Francophone that could somehow tie his policies to "Good ol'Quebec" of the golden era (60's)....

>>33032628

You mean like how he talks about our country was founded on the fur trade and that firearms are a deeply ingrained aspect of our culture because of it?

>>33032798
Very nice.

Also, what motorcycle do you have Tok?

>>33033026
>He represents me the best, but other politicians who came from completely different parts of Quebec in the past haven't represented me at all!

Fuck, ask someone from Calgary what they think about people from Edmonton. It's the same fucking shit.

Beauce is not the same place as fucking Montreal.

>>33033098
Just an old '80s 750 cruiser that needs repairs after laying it down because I hit a patch of gravel in a turn. But I have too many other things to focus on, and I don't know shit about fixing bikes.
>Nice low speed left turn bro
>It'd be a shame if
>Something
>Were
>To
>Happen
>To
>It

>>33032665
you reelly have nothin to contribe but your autiso dont you!

>>33033085
I mean make memes in french that are culturally appealing to francophones.

>>33033274
Nice, looking at getting a touring bike soon, but on the cheap side. Probably a CTX700T.

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>>33033686
>touring
>not superior dual-sport in 90s colors

>>33033686
https://www.youtube.com/user/c90adventures
C90?

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>>33009860

>>33032846
It's the usual "i'm smarter than everyone in this thread and i'm going to prove it by shitposting"

>Communism vs capitalism takes over the thread
The Cold War is over folks, please go home.

https://www.google.ca/amp/edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/ambulance-call-to-courthouse-triggers-police-escort-to-hospital/amp?client=safari

But muh police are firearms experts goys...

It's live, anons. Sign, share, spread the word.

https://petitions.parl.gc.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-575

>>33035897
I saw this yesterday, I like how they take great pains to avoid calling it a negligent discharge by a dumbass.

>>33034347
>knowing economics
>shitposting
The occasional off-topic discussion is always good to have in threads. So long as it doesn't dominate the thread and completely shit it up, it's an excellent way for bystanders to learn differing views on important subjects. I've learned plenty from off-topic shit over the years on different boards.

>>33016609
Incorrect. The piece of shit signed off on the swiss arms ban. And then acted all surprised like it happened without him knowing. He's a fucking worm

>>33036030

Signed and sent off to everyone I know.

>>33036499

Sauce?

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was not finishing her off Marc's biggest mistake?

>>33036030
So do you guys not remember what happened with the non-restricted AR15 petition, or what?

>>33036743

More ammo to use during the next election if nothing else.

>>33036743
Ar never had a safety angle put on it. Moderators are also legal in most countries where ar 15s are illegal.

One of the canadian moderator manufacturers need to bring some anti politicians to the range and dispel hollywood myths.

>>33034224
>white, teal, and purple
What age & gender demographic were they aiming for?

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>>33036926
The hip and with-it kind.

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>>33036960
I honestly don't remember the 90s looking like this.

But then again, Canada's 90s is more like USA's 80s.

>>33036873
> The Government believes in balanced, effective measures with respect to firearms that prioritize public safety while ensuring that law-abiding firearms owners are treated fairly under the law. The Government has committed to getting handguns and assault weapons off our streets and to strengthening controls on such weapons.
>The Government is committed to putting decision-making authority about weapons classification back into the hands of police, not politicians. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police is responsible for the technical determination of the classification of [sound moderators] in accordance with the criteria stipulated by Parliament in the Criminal Code.
>The Government has no intention of using section 117.15 of the Criminal Code to change the classification of [sound moderators]

There, I saved everyone a lot of waiting.

>>33034224
How heavy are the 650s? I've been looking at the 250s because I want something light to tool around town...

>>33030017
Damn I miss my '91 & '93. Can I be your new best friend? :-)

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>>33036960
nigga is that drake on the right

>>33037100
I don't have one (I've got an SV650), but I've tried my friend's KLR650 and it felt a little bit lighter than mine. Official specs say the 650 version is 337lbs dry, whereas the 250 is 258lbs. So like 30% lighter. But you're also losing around 30% of your horsepower as a result.

I'd go with the smaller engine if you're planning to do more trails or rough terrain, and the 650 if it's going to be mostly on-road use.

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>>33005033
In general all superior canadian seed is 100% unaffected by modern contraceptives! Look out gals if he's a canadian he "canuck" cum inside!

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>>33005033
>ARs are still restricted

>>33036432
>So long as it doesn't dominate the thread and completely shit it up
Which is exactly what happens in every fucking thread.

I just found out you can apply for a conceal carry license. How hard is the process?

>>33039196
I am a trapper, I quality for restricted firearms on crown land when I do my trapping. Other than that it is very difficult, life threatened 3 times approved for a judge kinda shit.

>>33039211
>3 times

What's with that arbitrary number?

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Just bought this beauty
Anyone know where I can find ammo for it though? (in stock)

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>>33037010
Teal and purple was more the early 90s, but it did happen. Most people just used "grunge" as an excuse to wear their old shit.

Behold the 90s car color

>>33039254
Damn, I'm jelly. Where and how much was it?

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Does CTG actually work at Sebarms?
Or is he just shilling?

>>33039220
No amount set in the legislation meant the RCMP got to choose requirements for it.

>>33038749
Evidently not in this one.

>>33039269
Fuggggggggggg I hate green & teal cars from the 90s.

>>33039278

CGN, and like 3,000. Nuked my bank account lol

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>>33039807
You don't know what's good.

>>33039852
>/k/, the place where people have zero money sense

>>33040004
Most red pilled vehicle ever made

>>33036593
http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/matt-gurney-canadas-convoluted-firearms-regulations-should-have-legal-gun-owners-worried
Mentions it in the article. Plenty of other easily available info on it out there. I first heard it straight from Sheldon Clare.

>>33036743

Orlando also happened during the AR petition too.

>>33039360

Shilling.

For personal reasons I won't be able to apply for my pal until about 4 months from now.

Did I miss out on the sks meme ?

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>>33043217
Nah you'll have to pay $30 more that you would have 3 years ago and the wood might not be as nice but it's a fucking $200-$230 rifle you can ride hard and put away wet.

>>33009860

How did you get your license if you're mentally ill?

>>33015044

O Leary because he wants to ban the AR-15.

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>>33043964

>>33030017
>safety off

Now you just need to be hidden in a quonset hut. ;-)

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New thread when?

>>33046859
New thread:
>>33048165

>>33048176
Scratch that. New thread is here:
>>33048205

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>>33049279
>I doubt they'll never get legalized
>I doubt the legalization will not happen

Good, we're on the same page.