Sunday night milsurp thread

>>32973208
I'm starting to regret not trading my m39 for a Type 99.

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>>32973237
why? do you suddenly have too much money to spend on ammo?

I'm getting a decent tax return and wanna buy a Type 38 or 99 (maybe a 30 if price good) what IS a good price for one?

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>>32973308
anywhere from $250 - 600, just depends on condition and markings

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>>32973237
What Type 99 was it? All original and matching like mine? Mummed?

>>32973308
A very vague question. They usually start around $300 and can go up well past $1k for all the right things align.

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My Swede M96 competition rifle.

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>>32973411

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>>32973289
I reload, so yes I do.
>>32973376
Mum was cancelled, but not ground down or anything (seller refused to admit it had been cancelled though). No dust cover or monopod, did have the AA wings. It was a Nagoya rifle. Can't remember if it was all matching or not. I know I can get more for it though.

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My K31 I paid $280 Cad or $213 USD.

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AG42B

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1871 Vetterli

>friend knows old guy who wants to sell his guns
>old guy said he's too old to fire guns and has no sons, so instead he wants to sell the guns to people who will take care of them and not fuck them up or just sell them for money
>old guy has a Norinco SKS (military, not import) that's in unissued condition
>he wants $300 for it

Should I go for it? It's all matching numbers and in absolutely pristine condition. There's not a single dent or scratch in the wood, and it's shiny to the point of being a reflective surface. The reason I ask is because I don't have a semi-auto gun at the moment (just a Mosin and a Mauser because I'm poor as fuck). Would it be a good gun for general use at that price?

>>32973620
For the States that's a great price I'd buy it. If you don't like it you could always resell for profit.

>>32973620
Sure, SKS are fun and well suited to plinking, hunting, or innawoods. Ammo availability and price are also a big plus

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>>32973620
>>32973639
Love my SKS, for $200 Canadian pesos can't go wrong.

>>32973639
Ammo isn't going to be as available in the future.

Prices will likely go up once Trump starts his tariffs.

>>32973717

>$200 CAD (~$150) for a SKS

Sometimes I am jealous of you, Canada. Sometimes.

>>32973762

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the bulk of 7.62x39 come from Russia? I thought Trump was trying to be friendly to Russia, with only China/Mexico getting the "fuck you" stance.

>>32972709

>have a mauser and a lee enfield
>but suck at shooting
>don't want to buy anything that doesn't have some good history behind it

would an m1 carbine be a decent cheap ammunition training rifle? it has a nice history behind it and I loved shooting it.

I love shooting my mauser but I suck donkey balls at shooting it.

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Late in the last thread, someone asked how much I paid for this. Who knows if you'd see this but it was $640 shipped to me.

>>32973788
No, mostly because ammo is expensive. Get one of the many 22 trainers that are out there. Being a Frankaboo, I recommend the Mas 45.

>>32973915

>not the TU-KKW

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My rifle collection as it currently stands. Only long guns not shown are the 71/84 Mauser, muskets, and 1 Mosin.

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So, being that I've been insanely bored at work today, I came up with a list to "objectively" measure milsurp bolt action rifles, as to how good they are (were) for mass issue to infantry forces. Now, this list is a preliminary scoring system, it isn't the final say I what I think about a particular rifle or how good it was. It's just a starting point.

Now that that's out of the way, the list.
Dimensions
Long rifle +1
Short rifle +2

9+lbs +1
8-9lbs +2
7-8lbs +3
<7lbs +4

Stock
No pistol grip +1
Pistol grip +2
Full length handguard +3
3/4 or partial handguard +1
No handguard +0

Magazine and feeding
Flush internal mag +3
Flush detachable mag +4
Exposed detachable mag +2
Exposed internal mag +1
Other/none +0

Helical feed +3
Staggered feed +2
Vertical feed +1
Other/none +0

Stripper clips +3
En bloc/Mannlicher chargers +1
Other +1
None (single loading) +0

Hinged or button takedown +2
Tool required takedown +1
Other/none +0

Closed mag +2
Exposed +1

Rear sights
Receiver aperture +4
Forward aperture +3
Tangent +2
Ladder +2
Lange Visir +1
Fixed +0

Aperture +4
U-notch +3
Deep V +2
Shallow V +1
Fixed +0

Front sights
Thick blade +3
Post +2
Thin blade +1

Sight wings +2
Sight hood +1
None +0

Action
Cock on open +2
Cock on close +1

Front locking lugs +2
Rear locking lugs +1

Single piece bolt head +3
2 piece bolt head +1

>2 locking lugs +4
2 lugs +3
1 lug +1

Let the butthurt begin

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>>32973788
yes, an m1 carbine would be ideal. they are fantastic rifles and ammo is pretty decently priced

>>32973915
nah dude, plenty of cheap .30 carbine out there. Armscorp cycles just fine in my M1

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>>32973998
Maybe I just haven't looked hard.

>>32973998

what's the average cost for an m1 carbine?

$400-500?

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And for the hell of it, the standard issue rifles of the US.

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>>32974104
The only ones that seem to be below $700 these days are the 1980s commercial variants.

you really have to hunt for a deal. and never buy a Universal. they were not made to milspec and they are pieces of shit.

>i just realized i dont have any pix of my M1

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Stupid phone turning my pic.

>>32973868
That was me. Thanks for posting. The one we have at work is $900, and I think it's one of the Egyptian ones.

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Seriously considering dropping hot dollar on an M48.
Pros and cons go

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Bought this Rasheed last week for $500 CAD or $381.81 USD. Missing bayonet, which is easily replaced with a modified Russian SKS bayonet I bought for $20 online yesterday. The guy I bought it off of didn't really know what he had.

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>>32974486
i remember when the rednecks here in the states priced them the same as SKSs cause thats all they knew

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>>32974292
>Pros
You now have a Mauser.
>cons
It's hard to stop with just one.

>>32974292
Pros:
It is milsurp, and it fires 8mm Mauser
Cons:
It is a Mauser. It is a Yugo Mauser. It is a Mauser.

>>32974575

why is being a mauser a con?

>>32974593
because /k/apt is an odd fellow, but hes pleasant enough so we let him stick around

What is the difference between the M1C Garand and the M1D Garand? I know they're both the sniper variants. They're the only kind CMP still has on their website, but the M1C costs like $3000 whereas the M1D costs about $1000, which is like less than their regular service grades go for these days. So what gives? I thought that the M1C was more or less just a regular M1 that was kinda jury rigged to fit a scope and stuff, and the M1D was when they kinda designed it with sniping in mind. The receiver was custom made to fit the optic and they added a flash suppressor, I believe.

So why is the M1C more expensive?

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>>32974593
Because I don't like them. They are boring and have shitty sights so my even shittier eyes cannot use them well. Also they attract Teutonaboos.

But functionally there is nothing wrong with a Mauser.

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>>32974593
/k/aptbilly is a lefty, and the germans shot so many leftists that he now hates mausers.

>>32974646
top kek

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>>32974539
>>32974575
I have a Nippon mauser, but I've always wanted a true mauser, as well as a few other rifles, but an M48 will be easier to find/afford

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>>32972709
Muh milsurps

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>>32974646
I only shoot left handed fuck face.

Also that was funny.
>>32974696
I need more Arisakas.

>>32974623

Rarity

Numbers produced

Forgotten Weapons has a video, go watch.

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My newest milsurp, a Gras Musketoon that was used in north Africa.

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>>32974784
<3

>>32974789
Thanks

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>>32974784
Liberty Tree has some

>finally managed to order a K31 from classic firearms

Hope they don't fuck me with some garbage. They charged like $50 more than the same shit two weeks ago which I missed, but still I really wanted one.

Now I have a Swede m/96, Yugo SKS and K31. What next?

>>32975395
Mosin

>>32975409

I'd feel like a chump paying $250+ for a mosin

Actually I overpay for pretty much everything here in NY since there's basically no surplus here at all, it's all online orders.

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>>32975456
If you manage to find a nice one, they can be absolutely worth the 250 pricetag

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Any tips for cleaning my MAS 36 after shooting?

I had been using Hoppes no 9 but to my horror I found that it can dissolve the black paint.

Fortunately my MAS isn't in mint condition 100% and doesn't have all of the paint (I rather like the patina actually), but I'd still like to clean it after shooting it without unnecessarily damaging the paint.

>>32975395
When did they have K31s in stock? I haven't seen them for months.

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>>32975496
I got mine 2 or so weeks ago. They had some for about 5 hours pic related here >>32974292

>>32975496

Friday and Saturday

I got really lucky with timing, every time they're up they are sold out in minutes. I just hope I'm not getting one that someone returned for being crap.

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>>32975456
never said you had to. I paid 250 for each of these Finn captures.

If you could get a Finnish one, they're really nice rifles. Heck even the captured 91/30's usually have some Finnish TLC done. Mine feel like the trigger was reworked and one of mine was even D shanked, so they clearly worked on them. I can't figure out the rhyme or reason to why the work was done on some but not others, but my 1940 Tula seems to have been properly worked on given the bluing, nice trigger, and slick bolt.

>>32975521
>>32975517
How much were they asking for them?

>>32975535

I paid $400 for a standard good condition (I hope), the guy that got it two weeks ago probably paid $340 or something. Classic are dicks

>>32975535
$349 I think. Invoice says $372 after s&h and taxes

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>>32975495
Hot water and ballistol for the metal, and a warm damp rag for the wood.

>>32975532

I wish I could find one for close to that price.

What are the chances of getting a k98 that still has the german eagle and/or SS skull stamped on it? It can be refurbished I just want to know the chances and how much I should spend.

>>32973717
I paid 450$ (impulse) for an sks with a much shittier stock and it still had cosmoline caked on it.

Fuck me.

>>32975332
They also have a 1889 Belgian.

Why must thou tempt me O Lords?

>>32975694
>I paid 450$ (impulse) for an sks with a much shittier stock and it still had cosmoline caked on it.
>still had cosmoline caked on it.

That's a good thing m8

>>32973717
actually now that I look at it, yours has a normal human sized stock! I'm >>32975694, the stock on mine is so fucking short. Its as if a midget was supposed to shoot it. Its a norinco by the way.

>>32975744
>Tfw manlet
>all soviet weapons fit me just fine

Not sure how to feel about this.

>>32975725
I hope so friend, I hope so. It took a solid 2 hours of degreasing to get that off but the stock's finish is shitty and shooting it is a pain because the stock was made for chinese midgets. I'm debating whether I should scrub off the previous finish and apply a new one but I know that lowers the value since I was told the gun hasn't been shot since it was taken out of storage (the amount of cosmoline can atest to this)

>>32975828
I'm a manlet too 5'7". This stock is just way too short, my mosin is perfect. I'll take a pic and post if I can.

>>32975622
What about for inside the barrel?

>>32975854
>>32975744
To be fair weren't most Soviet troops pretty young/small back in WWII? I mean, the T34 needed the driver to be something like 5 foot tall right?

Then of course they exported a ton of guns to Asians, it's not surprising that some of their guns would have pretty short stocks.

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Picked up this Type 99 at a fun show yesterday. Series 31 made at Toyo Kogyo SN 53xxx.

Missing cleaning rod, monopod, dust cover, mum completely ground. AA sight still intact. Bolt does not match, but action is very smooth.

Payed $190, how did I do?

>>32975862
Hot water and Ballistol.

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>>32975906
another pic

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heres a pic of said sks

>>32975906
>>32975938
It also looks to be refinished. You didn't do the absolute worst if the bore is in good shape and it shoots nicely, but you didn't get a deal really.

Will post my Tula in a few minutes after food keep thread alive pls

>>32976010
it's sunday night man I'm pretty sure /k/ ain't gonna be going that fast.

>>32975906
for other milsurp rifles, that might price might be ok considering comparable condition but with 7.7jap being the price it is, its not a cheap rifle to feed. just a so so deal IMO.

>am weeaboo
>want arisaka
>want chrysanthemum on it
>want good condition/shootable

where and how much? Am I retarded for wanting one?

>>32972709
Anybody know where I can find some stripper clips for an m1903?

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>>32975906
$190 is a really good deal.
>>32975993
>It also looks to be refinished.
It's not. The urushi finish they use is pretty shiny.

>>32976102
https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=717&idcategory=80

I got you senpay, but desu if you can get .308 stipper clips I would go with those. M1903 clips are kind trash if they arent in cood condition. Brass seem to be much better then the steel ones tho

>>32976065
I've been following type 99 Arisakas for a couple months now and have picked up a few in the past. If you want one with a completely untouched mum, matching dust cover, monopod, aircraft sights and a good bore and wood they can get up to 1-1.5k very easily. If it's missing any of those things (especially the mum being ground or canceled) it can take $500-700 off the price. A good non last ditch condition arisaka with no mum or dustcover will cost around $300-400, but really the high value items are the mum and dustcover.

>>32976161
Why are Mum's so hard to find? Did the Japanese themselves deface the rifles or something because they were ashamed of defeat?

>>32976161

Any good places to hunt for them? Actually I don't really know of many places for surplus in general, and I don't really like gunbroker and bidding wars

>>32976181
Patton allowed them to ground off all the mums before they were confiscated so as not to cause dishonor to give a weapon of the emperors property to the enemy.

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>>32976181
No, it's just to show its no longer property of the Emperor and not in their military anymore. My Type 30 is cancelled.

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>>32976157
thanks anon, mines a low serial but i'll be dammed if i don't shoot the damn thing, only fired 1 round but it made me feel like i was killing kraut eating huns. just need a bayonet.

>>32976284
>low number
WAIT HOLD ON A SECOND MAN, YOU CANT SHOOT THAT BECAUSE 24 RIFLES BLEW UP ONE TIME 90 YEARS AGO

>>32976284
Your rifle has an 03A3 mag-well, might want to find an original if you are so inclined

>>32976319
lol yea, desu still scared it might go boom but i figure if i shoot milspec i should be fine. 1908 didn't have any failures, the barrel was replaced in 1943 and the bolt was pressure tested.

>>32976363
does it? whats the difference?

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>>32976319

>>32976366
Yeah as long as you shoot 150 grain M2 Ball then you should be fine. Plus it was rebarreled in 1943 so thats even better. I have an RIA made in 1916 and I have put about 300 rounds through it since I got it in 2012 and I havent had any problems.

>>32976397
03A3 is stamped and the original is Milled or Forged I cant remember. When it was rebarreled they probably put that on there aswell. Whats your SN 300XXX?

>>32976431
356737, can't find any stamps at all on the stock, not sure if it was replaced.

>>32976456
was yours a sporter at somepoint? Is the bolt in the white? Your pics make it seem that way

>>32976484
nah was glare from my kitchen windows.

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>>32976484

>>32976431
also theres some minor rust on parts of the rifle, is there any way i can remove it? also whats the best way to maintain the stock? this is my first milsurp and first wood furniture bolt gun and i want to make it last.

>>32976250
post wife

>>32976655
I used 0000 Steel wool soaked in Hoopes #9 to get off surface rust, that and a brass brush work well and get some Gunny Paste from GarandGear for the stock

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>>32976181
>Why are Mum's so hard to find?
They aren't. Half the ones left around seem to have them intact. A mum does make it sell faster though.

>>32976690
Don't got one

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Anyone else have a radioactive rifle?

>>32975744
>https://www.amazon.com/UTG-Deluxe-Combat-Style-Butt/dp/B002TUSJI4 I bought this for mine adds 2in. to length of pull. I'm 6ft so fits me better this way.

>>32975395
AG42B, Norweigan Krag (both shoot 6.5x55mm) or a Cz52/57 (7.62x39mm)

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So many of you may have seen my posts about the "one that got away" perfect shape matching #'s Styer M95 carbine that I couldn't get cause it came back from the Bg check as stolen


WELL
the other day at a gunshow a dude had a ammo can FULL of 8x56r on en-blocs. At least 200rds. he also had 10 boxes of nazi marked shot too

FUCK YOU UNIVERSE

>>32973308
I know a place in NorCal selling a sporterized (nice job on it, but still) one for $200. Fine condition mechanically. A new stock would run you maybe $130. Where are you?

>>32973599

AG42 a cute!

CUTE!

Why not just not buy an AR? You guys are wasting your money

>>32975495
How much did you picks yours up for? I'm looking at one I want but the price is a little high for a milsurp bolt gun in an obscure caliber

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>>32978432
because some of us have class and like putting half-inch holes in things.

>>32973617
WHATS IT LIKE KNOWING YOU'LL NEVER FIND AMMO FOR IT

>>32973717
w2c?

>>32976065
should I sell this guy the bubba type 38 I bought?

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>>32972709
Never buying Argentinian surplus 7.65x53 ever again.

>>32979134
what habben

>>32979134
fug :DDD

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>>32979173
Case overpressure (probably due to corrosion inside the case, a common issue with Falklands-era Argie surplus) caused the primer to blow out the back of the case. I had 4 blow out of around 40 rounds fired, though that was the only one where it blew out the entire primer.

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>>32979134
>>32979217
>San Francisco
It's all shit ball powder.

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My 1939 Izhevsk before I refinished it
>inb4 you scream "bubba" because you didn't look at the handguard

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And this is after I refinished it with Tung oil.

>>32978432
Because I got bored of my ARs.

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>>32978463
$355 before shipping, but it was fucked with.

The previous owner converted the rear sight leaf into an open sight with a dremel and sanded down the front stock so both had to be replaced.

But after all that it's still very accurate.

>pic related is offhand at 75 yards
>windage is fine, sight may be a little low

Anyone happen to own a Finnish M91/30?

>>32979681
yeah I have two, they're here
>>32975532

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>>32979343
>>32979345
>waaa some finish came off my rifle

>>32979884
>Some finish
>Some
Look at the handguard again. There was a pretty large amount of bare wood.

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>>32976727
I believe he means my wife.
>>32976690
No.
>>32978432
I liked last thread, when you didn't post this stale bait.

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>>32979941
>There was a pretty large amount of bare wood.
Oh no, the stock is just going to disintegrate in seconds!

>>32980197
Wasting your breath man. Bubba always has irrefutable justification for his bubbary.

>>32979345
You could have chosen a better finish at least

>>32979343
why collect Milsurp if you don't enjoy all the wear and tear on these rifles? Every Nick and bit of wear tells a story.

Usually a pretty boring one, like conscript Igor as a fucking clutz and couldn't hold a rifle straight to save his life, but a story nonetheless.

>>32980197
Louisiana is pretty humid mate. I was worried about the wood getting fucked up.
>>32980271
That picture was taken not too long after I refinished the wood. It looks a lot nicer now.

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>>32979941
>There was a pretty large amount of bare wood.

Captcha: Margaritas DARLING
I felt absolutely FABULOUS posting.

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A week or two ago, an anon said he was gonna pull the trigger on one of those JG 1916 short rifles and post pics of its condition. did he ever post results?

Any good Milsurp pistols out there?

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>>32979018
I've never had very good luck with S&B

>>32980690
>I was worried about the wood getting fucked up.
>so I fuck up the wood myself
That's not how wood works anyhow.

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>>32981022
I like my cz 82 but they're nowhere near as cheap as they used to be. I paid under $250 for this whole setup when I bought mine.

Only complaint is the finish is pretty crap. Mechanically the pistols are solix

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>>32981022

You can get a surplus Italian police Beretta 92S for under $400, I paid $325 for mine.

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>>32981022

A Tokarev is a good option too, usually cheap, ammo is available but not like 9mm abundant.

Paid $225 for this Romanian TTC, came with two mags, an original holster and 200 rounds of ammo.

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How do I politely to tell this guy to fuck off with his price? Also anyone know of any primary market venders that still have m48's?

>The Mauser is an M48A. military leather sling, bayonet has matching numbers as does the rifle. the rifle and bayonet numbers are not the same as each other. I have attached pictures. asking 500 for the mauser. also have 2 boxes of ammo ( 40rds. ).

>>32980690
>Louisiana is pretty humid mate

Unless your literally throwing you gun in water and leaving it there you were fine

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>>32981970
By not buying it. If he wants too much then he can hang on to it. Or he can lower his price.

>>32982010
He emailed me trying to sell it so I need to respond at the least.

>>32982036
"No thank you".

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>>32981970
>How do I politely to tell this guy to fuck off with his price?
You politely offer a lower price. If he won't negotiate then look elsewhere.
>Also anyone know of any primary market venders that still have m48's?
https://ganymede.meccahosting.com/~a0000ae7/aaresult.php?PageId=32

>>32982036
Then just say something like

"No thanks, that's a bit higher than I'm willing to go. Best I can do is X. If that's too low sorry but that's all I can do at the moment."

You'd be surprised how often people come down for me when I say that. I'm just upfront, tell them "this is what I'd willing to pay right now, otherwise I can't do it, sorry." and a lot of times they'll come down just because they want it gone.

The key thing is being honest about it. I've flat out told people before that my offer is a lowball offer but that's all I have or all I'm willing to pay for it, and sometimes they'll do it just because you weren't a dick about it. There's so many lowballing assholes on the net these days I'm honestly starting to think people are giving me deals just to spite the guy who was a dick to them.

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>when there is literally nothing on the used market here besides $400 mosins, $2000 garands and $1300 1903's

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Considering selling my 1930 Ishapore since I've only shot it one 4 years ago. 400-450 seem right? Please note this is not the crappy 7.62 nato one.

>>32982526
what's the condition?

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>>32982569
pretty good. Just needs a replacement king screw I think they are called

>>32982584
were you that guy trying to sell an enfield the other night, based out of Massachusetts?

>>32982604
No, I'm from Maryland

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>>32982526
>400-450 seem right?
For a pre-WWII Mk.III that seems like a very fair price.

>>32982584
>>32982616
That's a sharp looking rifle. Wish I could find an enfield like that around here for that kind of price

>>32982636
Yea it surprised me. I figured a bit higher though I guess it has that stigma of being an Ishapore.

>>32982704
List it on Gunboards Trader or other forums where LE nuts hang out.

>>32972709
>French anything guns

Disgusting

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>>32982882
Get out.

>>32982892
french guns all look like prototypes that were forced into production

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>>32982918
There aren't enough crosses for this sort of profligate degeneracy.

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>>32982123
>tfw the 1903 Springfield probably isn't that great a rifle anyway, but you want one as a piece of US military history, but they're always super expensive

>>32981327
What do you use?

>>32983979
It is a pretty good rifle actually. Gets 43 out of 52 possible points on my little matrix. Only rifles that do better are the Mas 36 and Type 99.

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>>32979007
YOU SURE ABOUT THAT? FOUND 1 ROUND
OF COMMERCIAL QUEBEC 1920'S .41RF AT A GUNSHOW! I'M ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF CONVERTING 8MM LEBEL BRASS TO MAKE MY OWN AMMO!

>>32979065
Bought it at Wholesale Sports 3 years ago.

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AC 45 K43. No scope rail. The stock was like that when I purchased it. I promise.

>>32984239
Where do you rank the Mosin-Nagant on your list? You seem more forgiving of it than most others on /k/.

>>32984510
33 out of 52. Better than I expected. Any rifle that gets 25 or more points is good in my mind.

>>32973481
cheeki breeki brother

>>32984653
I only have a Mauser to compare it to, but there are things I like about the Mosin.

Like being able to open the magazine if there's a jam, or the bolt being easier to disassemble. Mauser bolt is a pain to disassemble, even if you have a stock with a notch in it.

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>>32980228
Most Bubba'd gun I own is an 1871 Vetterli sporter
paid $75 CAD or $57.41 USD. Your thoughts?

>>32984706
I don't know shit about Vetterlis. For less than $60 I guess I wouldn't complain.
>>32984701
The 98k has 35 points out of 52 for comparison. So it's ever so slightly better, mostly because it's rimless and has a better bolt.

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where my Cupro niggas @?

Just watched the smith at c&rsenal get dirty with an Enfield

https://youtu.be/A-BWo2RPhyA


At one point he dunks the whole action into a pipe filled with kerosene.

My question is, why kerosene? Why not mineral spirits or hoppes #9?

It seems like a great idea if it can dissolve ceus and cosmoline

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>>32984869
I gotchu nigga my 6 rounds of GP1890/23 I also got 300+ rounds of GP11's.

>>32985029
muh dik

Well i got outbid before the auction even started. Shit sucks bro

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>>32985110

I don't ever refinish the wood on my stocks, but I do slap some wood oil on them. Do you guys do the same?

>>32985153
Unless its cherry I strip the wood, bleach it and stain it. Usually reblue them as well unless its almost factory.

>>32985224
if you have an ak, what do you do about the gas tube?

>>32985132
It hurts friend. I just wanted a fighting chance at least

>>32985251
I dont buy commie guns

>>32985110
>tfw want Lee-Enfield but am always outbid

The other bidders just reach prices that shouldn't be possible.

>>32985264
I hate commies too but damn do they make good guns.

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>>32985267
I feel like enfields have gone through the roof recently.

>go to a gun show sunday
>see old fucked up model 4
>This is the shit I like
>$600
>mfw

>>32984994
Hoppes is like 60% kerosene to begin with, and is much cheaper.

>>32985305
racist

>>32983979
got my 1903 for 800 dollaroos

>>32985267
>>32985305
I got into milsurp at a pretty bad time looks like. I thought bidding on a lot would lower the price per item, like fuck im gonna pay 700 for an enfield and a couple hundred for arisakas i cant shoot

>>32985369
Well its more expensive now that it has ever been 2bh and its probably never going down again.

>tfw didnt buy 3 dozen nuggets when they were $99 like 2 years ago

>>32983979
I dont know what you are talking about desu. both of my 1903s are great

>>32985397
I wouldnt mind spending a bit more but its all sealed bids until like the 18th. Im not trying to throw money at the screen or get in a bidding war

>>32985413
yours both high serials?

>>32985428
Why are you going to auctions?

All the stuff ive ever bought has been from gun shows, stores and people ive met.

>>32985435
No, ones a RIA low number and the other is a Remington 03A3

>>32985442
Online bro. Only shit i can can find local is way overpriced or really beat up

>>32985478
mines a low serial from 1908, want to keep it but i could take it back and exchange it for a rem. 03a3 from '43. I fucking hate having to choose.

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>>32985369
It's not gonna get any cheaper chief.

>>32985313
Just looked up the msds for hoppes 9.

Its 30-60% acetone
10-30% ethenol
10-30% kerosene
And a bunch of smaller additives. Like 1-5% propane.

>>32980902
I'm not the same anon, but I bought one which is sitting in my FFL's shop until my waiting period expires. I'll tell you all about it in ten days or so.

>>32985562
I know man, just a pain in the ass having having to pay more than what i think its worth

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>>32985602
That much ethanol huh? Shit I have all that sitting in my lab.

>>32985602
Not sure what you looked up but that is not Hoppes No 9 cleaner.

>>32972709
If you milsurp you should be making Ed's Red.

Cheap and all you'll ever need

>Equal parts:
>Acetone
Steal your mom's/gf/wife (yeah right)
>Kerosene
(For your, future if you don't into, diesel/lamps)
>Mineral Spirits
(Probably have to buy that one just for this unless you into shart)
>ATF
On hand because you work on cars, then use the rest as gun lube.

>>32985785
1 Ethanol 0000064‐17‐5 200‐578‐6 H255 15‐40
2 Kerosine (Petroleum) 0008008‐20‐6 232‐366‐4 H304 15‐40
3 Oleic Acid 0000112‐80‐1 204‐007‐1 15‐40
4 Amyl Acetate 0000628‐63‐7 211‐047‐3 H226 5‐10
5 Ammonium Hydroxide 0001336‐21‐6 215‐647‐6 H314, H400 1‐5

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>>32985807
>On hand because you work on cars
No, I pay people to do that for me.
>But your lawn mower...
I pay people to do that for me too.

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>>32985369
I thought paying $400 for a No.4 was the norm.

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>>32986153
In Canada that's the case.

>>32986153
>Was
Operative word there.

-http://www.leverarms.com/products/svt-40-russian-military-surplus-semi-automatic-rifle-no?variant=16577428033 SVT40's are still reasonably priced.

>>32985785
http://www.hoppes.com/global/customer-service/sds-information


Take your pick. Every region apparently has their own blend.

>>32977828
fucking Iowa, Im partial to Type 38s

>>32986338
u should give MilArms your buisness, they r p cool
t. American

>>32986284
What is the norm for No.4s? I payed $400 two weeks ago.

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>>32986153
I wish I could find one for that, I really want an enfield but all the ones around here are sporterized WWI rifles. I've had good luck finding Mausers though. I've had my eye on a German 98k that's still got original markings for about $500, but the stock has been refinished and it's not completely matching. I may get it just together my wehraboo out of my system then use it as trade fodder later

>>32986541
Rear barrel band is also on the wrong way

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>>32986529
Between 400 and 600 from what I've seen.

>>32986824
Yeah I got really close to buying it and then just kind of had a gut feeling that I shouldn't buy it. It's not "bad" but it just has a lot of little things that just seem off. It's the cheapest German 98k I've seen though, at least around here.

>>32986874
Is it me or does the way the picture was taken make it look like that rifle's barrel is bent?

>>32986916
500 is not a bad price for it desu. You have more pictures?

>>32986916
It's the stock actually but yeah I noticed that too

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>>32986943
I've posted about it in the past. The shop owner is pretty cool and after talking to him for about 10 minutes about how I wanted to collect Milsurp he essentially knocked $50 off everything he had that I was interested in. He used to collect Enfield's apparently so he immediately understood why I wanted to get into it.

I've got a few pics, the rifle isn't bad, it's just not amazing. I kind of got spoiled seeing as my mosins I bought had practically new barrels by comparison to this. It's rifle grooves looked a little soft to me.

It also had a refinished stock and some rust/pitting on the band's, but other than that it's a fair rifle, and honestly seeing as it's a 43 it almost definitely saw use. Would explain the used barrel.

I'll post a few more pics. He also had a mauser with ground Nazi emblems that he said he'd cut me a deal on, no idea what "deal" that means pricewise though.

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>>32987042

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>>32987077

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>>32972709
c-can I join?
>tfw partial milsurp

>>32987129
are you ok anon? You appear to be reaching warp speed or have one hell of a case of the shakes.

>only got into guns 6 months ago
>surplus is super expensive and slim pickings
>absolutely nothing in stores, gotta get everything online
>live in NY so can't even get cool 40s/50s era semi autos like hakims because of evil features

Fucking blows man. I just have a Yugo SKS, swede m96 and I ordered a K31 which hasn't arrived yet. Everything else just seems out of reach.

>>32987042
What doesn't match on it? Shame they refinished the stock as it looks like it might be one of those walnut stocks.

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>>32987199
Takes either patience or money, and sometimes both for the rarer shit. Gotta be hunting for what you want every day if you want a good deal.

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Is this right?

>>32987212
nothing except the floorplate and I think the trigger or receiver match. The important thing is that I remember the bolt didn't match the receiver, honestly I'm not worried about other things matching. I know the stock didn't match anything else.

Think it's a fair price for a shooter if the barrel isn't completely shot? I wasn't looking at it too hard the first time but if it's a pretty good deal this is honestly probably going to be the only German WWII gun I'll be able to afford for a long time. My goal was to get a rifle from every major power in the war for my collection, so this would cross a big one off the list, and I guess I can always trade up down the line. I was worried he was charging too much for it at the time but I'm still new to all this. If it's a good deal I know it's still there and it shouldnt be too hard to go back this weekend and grab it.


At least with the shape it's in I know it's not a fake one.

Essentially what I'm asking is if you guys saw it in a shop for $500 would you grab it?

>>32987245

>$1075 bid for an M39

uh

>>32987290
an all matching, tiger stripe wood grain M39***

I would expect this goes a bit higher

>>32987271
For a mismatch try to get it for no more than 400. Sounds like a well post war parts bin put together.

>>32987344
yeah pretty sure he wouldn't go that low. I remember saying I couldn't do $500 and he shrugged and said he understood. I figured it was a bit much for it.

I may try to get him to come down as a bundle with something else but it's not an "oh my god I need to have it" purchase.

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>>32987060
>>32987077
Solid walnut stock isn't correct for a '43 Mauser Werke anyway; the refinishing doesn't hurt it that much.

>>32987245
>>32987290
Welcome to the latest compulsion to hit the milsurp world.

>>32987407
I don't understand why in the past 2 months prices have just skyrocketed for these. It pisses me off though.

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>>32985305
>>32985267

>got a lee enfield no 4 mk 2 for 355
>tfw worried as shit that there'll be something wrong considering how cheap the fucking thing was

>>32987407
WRONG there are examples of 43 and even 45's made with walnut stocks that are matching and correct.

>>32987579
They hit a critical mass in popularity, much like the K31 did last year, or the 49/56 the year before.

>>32987407
>>32987692
The stock doesn't match anyways so it doesn't really matter that much

>>32987737
Did the K31 come down from its peak at all? I was surprised to learn how few M39s were produced

>>32987692
OK I admit I don't know all that much about the Kar.98k's many variations. Got some examples?

>>32987921
Not really. Probably won't for a few years, if they come down at all.

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>>32987674
Post pics.

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>>32987233
>>32987199
Took me a year to find a Rasheed Carbine at a good price.

>>32987737
>>32987921
Pic is what I paid for a K31 2 years ago they're like $600 CAD now.

>>32988141
http://www.gunbroker.com/Item/616611972

this is the gun

>>32987921
I just paid 625 for one. So i don't think so.

In all fairness i got a sling, stripper clip, and troop tag with it

>>32986025
faggy millennial that can't do shit detected

>>32988040
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?420666-byf-43-with-Walnut-stock

>>32988553
My time is better spent doing other things.

>randomly trolling through armslist looking for Enfields/mausers/etc.
>random Hakim for $550

What do Hakims usually go for in good shape? It was kind of the last thing I expected to see in my area

>>32988576
Did you miss the part where the stock wasn't numbered to the rifle?

>>32982584
>king screw
That's a colloquialism, although most people will know what you mean because it's widely used. Its real name is "Screw, Front Trigger Guard".

>>32984994
Paraffin, aka kerosene, is an excellent de-greasing agent and is actually pretty gentle as cleaners go (typically used for O-ring motorcycle chains because it doesn't cause the rubber to perish). It's also about as cheap as you're going to get.

>>32988852
No. The experts also talk about late war matching walnut examples in the thread.

>>32980902
that was me
I'll be picking it up next monday. Fuck the 10 day cucking period family

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>>32987199
>tfw living in the twilight of milsurp

post lewds

>>32987199
its only going to get worse as time goes on.

>>32987199
I feel ya! Just recently getting into surp.. Got a decent ex dragoon, steyr m95, and k31. Everything else I've been interested in is going to cost me as much as a modern firearm. It hurts...

>>32987199
>tfw Wisco
>try to sell milsurp I don't want anymore
>literally cannot give it away
>only people here who care about milsurp already have 2 of everything.

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Anyone know anything about Red Chinese 8mm Mauser surplus from Korea? I just picked up a box and it actually looks like good quality ammo. Might get a few more boxes, cant tell what jacket the bullet has tho. Sorta looks like Cupro but it sorta doesnt either

>>32992431
Have you idk tried selling it on Gunbroker so you have a national market lmao

>>32974104
i paid 500 for a universal and i have regretted it ever since. first and only gun to ever blow up on me... go GI but expect to spend between 850-1200 for a decent one... again like >>32974143 said do NOT buy a universal

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>>32992431
>WI
What are you trying to sell?

>>32992431
if you'll mail to KY I'm in the exact opposite boat. Looking to buy but nothing around

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>>32994319
Wouldn't want my M39 would you?

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>>32985646
>>32989112
My body is ready
I really hope their receivers aren't scrubbed, but that this point I'm hoping they aren't rustbuckets

>>32994430
I've actually enquired about it in the past. I was the guy who said "if it hadn't been modified with the PU scope I would be down." I'm still interested in the ammo I just need to find a UPS facility that will let me pick up the order at the counter instead of having it delivered to my trailer.

Plus I have a lead on a cheap M39, I just need a free day to drive halfway across the damn state to see it.

I was mainly hoping that guy had an Enfield. That and the M39 are the two big ones on my list that I really want.

>>32995189
Why not just get a P.O. box man? They're like $30 a year.

>>32995306
you can get more delivered to a P.O. Box? I thought USPS refused to handle ammo?

>>32995315
>you can get more

I meant

You can get ammo delivered to a PO box?


I'm pretty sure it specifically mentioned in the USPS terms that ammo was not allowed to be shipped to a PO box at a post office.

I'm gonna be pissed if that's been an option this whole time. I missed a good deal on ammo the other day because I didn't know where I could ship it.

>>32995355
Probably not, but then it'll be at their facility for you to pick up.

>>32995189
>UPS facility that will let me pick up the order at the counter instead of having it delivered
you cant do that with ammo? i didnt know that

>>32995355
Or have it shipped to your job is guess. I know you can do that legally.

>>32995420
they won't let you deliver it to their stores, at least as far as I can tell. Their rules for delivery are hard to figure what exactly they consider a "pickup center". I'm gonna drop by the local store tomorrow and ask exactly how it works. Hopefully a manager can help explain it better.

>>32995430
>getting ammo delivered to pizza hut

While that would be hilarious, I don't think that would work out.

>>32995411
Pretty sure USPS refused to touch firearm related stuff period. I'll double check their rules again.

Basically I live out in the sticks and am always in town for work/school/friends, so getting it delivered to my home would be a pain in the ass. I've heard all kinds of horror stories with UPS so I'd rather it just be I pick it up on my terms than waiting all day for the delivery guy only to miss him because I had to take a piss.

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>>32976065

its good shit. i enjoy shooting mine a lot. I also started handloading to feed it. worth the experience IMO

anyone with an M1 shoot wolf steel case? does it give you any issues?

>>32995529
>I CAN SHOW YOU THE WORRRRRLLLLLLLDDDDD

>>32995489
>Pretty sure USPS refused to touch firearm related stuff period. I'll double check their rules again.
You can ship long arms, just not ammo and not handguns unless you're a non-C&R FFL.

Also, 300 posts now. Someone can make a new thread if they like.

Tip for any Ljungman owners, Sportsman guide just got PPU Swedish 6.5x55 FMJ back in stock after every site on the internet had been out for 6+ months. As far as I know this is the only commercial ammo available that is loaded to the right specs for the AGB42, so if you aren't a reloader and need some Ljungman ammo, best to pick this up now.

>>32992431
If you'll ship to KY, tell me what you got. Can't find anything good around here anymore, barring a recent M44 I saw.

>>32994430
How much are you offering for it?

>>32996651
Liberty Tree has some 100 rounds lots of original Swedish Surplus as well rn

>>32992943
Yugo Mauser. $250.
>>32992763
That would require shipping. I'm pretty paranoid that whatever I ship is going to get trashed, so I do ftf only. There's also something great about having the cash in your hands.

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>>32996780
>Yugo Mauser. $250.
What model?

>>32996818
M48. I had it priced like that for a quick sale but not a single message all week.

>>32996700
>there's another KY anon

Well good to know I'm not the only one around here.

>>32996700
$700 or something interesting in a trade.

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>>32992694
>>32995544
sum 1 pls
>>32997044
>M39s are $700 dollars now
Nigger WHAT

>>32997044
Kek 700 for a bubba job

>>32997044
>VKT
>No SKY

I think your price is a bit high but then again ive only got that small picture to go off of. $600 is more reasonable imo but im not an expert.


>>32997063
milsurp is getting pretty expensive my friend. i got interested at a shitty time. gonna try to get an 03 though and not ever pay transfer fees

>>32996780
Lol, just lol. I've shipped guns just fine. If you package it right you won't have any issues.

>>32997063
Yup, all day long.
>>32997091
I can get it man. Also may not be a bubba.
>>32997111
I'm actually asking $950 but that's my haggle price.

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>>32996840
>M48
No shit; where are you located? Pictures?

>>32997140
fair enough, i can't hate. im only saying that because i got two sako m39s, ony sky one sa, 720 and 630 respectively

>>32997140
Since when? Wasnt Classic brining them in like 5 months ago for like 400 bucks? Are you telling me my M39 I traded for a 400 dollar shotgun has almost doubled in price, what the fuck are Hex 91/30's and first year M44s worth now?

>>32997218
They hit critical mass in popularity, so prices have exploded accordingly. Just like K31s last year.

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>>32997167
Really like your Long Mauser, I like mine alot

>>32997241
>and its in a common ass caliber so the prices wont go down a year later like the K31 did

Fuck man