What does /k/ think of the MiG 23?

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>>32968776
I think they are cool as shit, and Im not even sure why. I mean its not revolutionary in anyway.

>>32968776
sexy af tbqh

>>32968776
Reminds me of the f 111

>>32968776

Same opinion the rest of the world has on it - basically it's a pile of shit, a mistake, and always was.

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>>32968776
Aesthetics

Sexy look it got.

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>>32968776
Thanks for sharing the picture OP its actually quite good for doing for some 3D modeling.

>>32968906

So it's got a lot in common with you?

>>32968953
its an illustration in fact, pen and paper

>>32968990
so shit autismo

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I've always thought of the MiG-23, Su-24, and F-111 as close analogues of each other.

How do they actually compare? Was the MiG-23 more capable in an air-to-air role?

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>>32968953
These might help too.

>>32968776
Aesthetic plane.

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>>32968776
MiG-27K is the best MiG-23. It's such a pity that they decided to ditch all single engine aircraft, 27K was totally worth keeping.

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>>32969044

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>>32969017
On this pic it looks a bit like MiG-23PD.

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>>32969084

>>32969044
>>32969084
Very nice man,thanks again.

>>32969009
>f-111
>doing aa ever

the f-111 was a cluster fuck program-wise akin to the f-35

that's why the navy dropped it and the af used it as a bomber

one day you tards will realize the f-35 is an attack aircraft as well

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>>32969122
No problemo.

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>>32968776
>>32968813
>>32969072
>>32969094
MiG really needs to get back into the single engine kick ass jets again..

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AESTHETICC

>single engine aircraft over water

Were they serious, or only pretending to be retarded?

I got a all metal scale model of one of these for Christmas once. Never knew what it was. Thanks anon.

>>32969336
nothing wrong with flying over water, sir autismo.

Aesthetically pleasing as fuck, but it suffered of vibration caused instability at supersonic speeds.

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Mig 23 would kill you as soon as look at you apparently.

>>32968776
Underrated. I've always thought it was a cool plane, and probably the best of the 3rd Gen fighters

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Is this the under-appreciated cold war fighters thread?

The Mirage F1 is pretty nice too.

>>32969395
From a pilot survivability standpoint, having only one engine is a serious problem.

If you have two engines and one goes down, you have a chance of making it to land with the remaining engine.

If you only have one, you will have to punch out, and, while you can find your way to safety on land, your chances of being recovered on the water are slim to none.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Belgian_MiG-23_crash
I MUST PROTECT MY PEOPLE FROM BELGIAN THREAT

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>>32969336
>>32969631
Gee, could this by a virtue of some twisted logic be a reason behind MiG-23K never becoming a thing? What do you have to be such a turboautist?

>>32969146
Love the top mounted flareracks

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>>32968776
It's Russian and because of that, it makes it superior to the f-35 in nearly every way possible and because it's old and Russian, it's nearly unstoppable too.

>>32969631
You are a fucking retard and here is why.

The Gripen for example has never had any engine related crashes and its single engine.

The MiG-29 (or F/A-18 for that matter) has had tones of engine related crashes (despite beeing twin engine).

Not all engines are created equal (Not even all F404s, both used in the F/A-18 and the Gripen)

So for reliability you look at actual crash ratio, not the number of engines, I mean, would you rather be in a single engine jet where no engine fails or a twin engine jet were both fails?

>>32969156
You're retarded. The USAF F-111s were never going to be anything but strike aircraft, and USAF doctrine for a while had been to give strike aircraft the "F" designator (see the F-105).

The issue the F-111 ran into was that the DoD slapped wildly diverging requirements into the TFX in a platform that was going to stretch the limits of performance in several areas.

>>32969009
The MiG-23 was originally designed as an air-to-air fighter, generally being a replacement for the MiG-21. Later, they developed attacker variants of it, but from the start it was supposed to be a modern missile-armed fighter akin to the F-4-lite.

The Su-24 and F-111 on the other hand were high-end strike platforms from the start.

Personally I can't understand the rationale for procuring the MiG-27. The Su-17 was more rugged and the Su-24 was more advanced. It fell into this weird niche between the two that seems redundant.

>>32969072
MiG-27K was shittest version of MiG-23. Its quality control was disaster and plane was drooped and replaced in production with bare bones MiG-27M.

>>32971758
>Personally I can't understand the rationale for procuring the MiG-27
Every design bureau needs a slice of a pie. That is all.

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>>32969196
>P-270 Moskit
>MiG-27

Is that possible or is this just a fantasy drawing?

>>32972187
It is Kh-31P

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>>32972198
My bad.

They have the same basic configuration, I get the two mixed up.