Glock Perfection

>one post this ID
You don't own any guns.

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>>32952251

Glocks just werk. Literally the only thing you may need to change on a Glock is the sights, and honestly the stock sights aren't even that bad. Handguns are made for close quarters encounters.

There are $800+ 1911's that come with shitty GI sights and nobody complains.

>>32952339
Glocks have a lot of ejection problems between gen 3.5-4

Glock perfection

>buy glock
>it works for life

>>32952357
see >>32952354

except when they don't work

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>>32952354
>>32952367
Ejection problems is the straw you choose to grab? Really?

>>32952374
>glocks have problems
>glock tards deny this
any questions

>>32952383
0/10 see me after class

>>32952385
not an argument

>>32952393
look in the mirror

>>32952393
Got a citation for that claim?
Not merely anecdotal

>>32952354
don't buy shit ammo, clean the gun regularly and grip the gun properly. this will virtually eliminate all ejection problems with any gun.

Glock, the Honda Civic of handguns.

>>32952442
it
just
fucking
werkz

>>32952442
I read that in Normal Car Review's voice.

The only time I had a ejection problem with my 17 is when I purposely limp wrist it to see if it would lock up

I think the whole polymer, striker-9 boom we're experiencing right now is due to glock's laziness. Most of the issues people routinely bring up about glocks (shit sights, shit trigger, etc.) have been an issues from the very beginning and can be easily solved, as shown by all of glock's new competition that has popped up in recent years and released designs that solve most, if not all, of these problems. Gen 4 was a perfect opportunity to fix the issues, and what did we get? A half-hearted grip adjustment system, slightly better texturing, and a recoil spring assembly that fucked up more than it helped. What really pisses me off is that glock could easily stomp out this striker boom if they were willing to put the smallest amount of effort into improving the design, but instead they rely entirely on their name and reputation to sell their pistol. Meanwhile, their competition is pumping out better, cheaper pistols and chipping away at their sales.

>>32952501
if only he would do guns, maybe season 25.

All I did to my glock 19 was put a ghost connector in for 15 bucks and I have been pretty happy with that being all it needed.

>>32952574
>all i did was compromise myself from a legal perspective in a major way
>i have poor judgment and bad taste
faggot

>Glock
>Ugly as fuck

Can't be perfect if it can't achieve both form and function at the same time.

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>>32952625
but it does

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I'll just wait for CZ's improvement on "perfection" to come out

>>32952594
You are a fucking retard

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>>32952649
"improvement"

>>32952664
that's a p07

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>>32952646

Proving my point there.

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>>32952251
The best Glocks aren't made by Glock

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>>32952755
Youve got shit taste though

>>32952646
I can almost guarantee there's at least $500 invested in that pistol, and there are guns equal in price or cheaper than a stock glock that have most of its added features out of the box.

>>32952792

Fug, I thought you were serious there for a second.

>>32952766
I feel like these are actually a solid step in the right direction, but how much does it cost to build one of these? How does it compare to stock glock pricing and the pricing of glock's competition?

>>32952796
Surefire x300u-a $225
KKM Barrel and brake - $275
ATOM slide cut, front serrations, refinish, new irons - $400
Aimpoint T1 - $600

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>>32952805
But I am

I only replaced the sights. Everything else is fine.

Never had a single malfunction in over 4 years of having my gen 4, nor the issue gen 3 I have. Total probably 20,000 rounds. I literally cannot recall a single malfunction.

Stop using shit ammo you cheap fuck.

>>32952834
I won't count the weaponlight or RMR as those would be the same expense regardless of what pistol one chooses, and I'll even concede the KKM comp as threaded comps seem to be a lagging point for other pistols right now, but I feel like expense of the slide work alone proves my point. More and more guns are coming RMR compatible from the factory, with good heightened sights too. The finish might be a little better than the stock finishes on these guns, but not enough to make a huge difference. as far as front cocking serrations go, sure they're not essential by any means but almost every poly stiker competing with glock today has them in some form from the factory. Not to mention that, provided the aftermarket on some of these guns picks up, glock will be even worse off since you would have a better, cheaper stock gun to build off of. And all of these things could be easily fixed if glock cared enough to do so.

>>32952251
>shit trigger
I lik... I like Glock triggers..

>>32952976
Thats not an RMR, its a T1.

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>>32952976
You have never heard of the MOS glocks?
https://us.glock.com/mos/

I have 38 thousand rounds through my gen 3 G19, and I have never cleaned or lubed it and I have never had a single malfunction.

>>32953017
I probably should've gone with slide mounted optic instead

>>32953030
Sure, but they're still a bit pricey for what they are. They give you the slide cut, but you're still left buying new sights, along with all the other issues I mentioned before. Compare that with the p320 RX for example: it comes with the slide cut, heightened night sights, front cocking serrations, some of them come with the romeo optic itself and several other possible advantages that others have claimed but might still be arguable (better trigger, better ergos,etc).
One could argue that this is also the case with the walther q 5 match, but its weird ass sight configuration, slide cuts, and the height of the optic all exclude it for me.

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>>32952251
I have a bone stock Glock 19 Gen 4. I'm happy with it as is.

I only want to swap the barrel, because I'll get a suppressor if HPA goes through.

>>32952501
>Normal

>>32952354
My gen 4 has had one single stove pipe in several hundred rounds of cheap tula shit. And it was probably as much my fault as it was the gun's.

>>32952442
That explains a lot

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>>32952434
>A Glock will shoot any ammo
>never fails if it's dirty.

Stovepipe
> It's the ammo
>Make sure it's clean

>>32952251
>Glock
>make the exact same shit for almost 30yrs
>decide to make a slight change
>slides start falling off
Glock "engineers"

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/08/19/breaking-glock-17m-recalled-police-department/

>>32952354

You mean they HAD that problem. The gen 4 problem was solved not even a yr later with a dif recoil spring.

>>32952251
ok

>>32952385
Underrated reply

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>only gun that you can fully Roland Special with a comp and everything
>only handgun to have a SIRT pistol modeled after
>only handgun to have a simunition pistol modeled after
>only handgun to have so much aftermarket that you can literally have a complete Glock with zero OEM Glock parts
>largest aftermarket of all handguns
>has been extensively tested by SEALs, MARSOC and other US SOF teams
>has been used extensively by a large majority of LE agencies
>has been proven far more than any other polymer striker fired pistol
>only polymer frame doublestack to have a total width of 1.2 inches
>only polymer frame gun that does not require anything but a single punch to completely detail strip
>only gun that you could have every replacement part for just under $100
>only striker fired pistol as of now that can facilitate a striker control device

Laugh all you want, there's no aftermarket part you can slap onto your P320/M&P/VP9/etc that can make it as size efficient or lightweight as a Glock.
>mfw people whining about the plastic sights

If you don't replace the sights for something like fiber optics or Ameriglo CAPS, you're a fucking scrub and 99.95% of the time suck dick at handgunning.

Glocks suck? Tell that to
>Travis Haley
>Pat MacNamara
>Kyle Defoor
>Todd Green
>Mike Lamb
>Larry Vickers
>Ken Hackathorne
>Bob Vogel
>Taran Butler
>Nate Lecompte
>Jared Reston
>Darryl Bolke
>Dave Harrington
>DEVGRU
>MARSOC
>CAG
>AWG
>Army SF

>>32952354
My gen 4 26 had a few ejection problems. Ran a box or 2 of 147gr +p and stiffened my wrists, perfect since

>>32953632
>Whip out Glawk in defensive situation, very effective and reliable as expected
>As you holster pistol with shakey hands shoot yourself in the thigh
>Bleed out
>Wow sure am glad there wasn't a safety in the way there

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>>32953705
It's almost as if you didn't read the post

>>32953727
Is that an external safety? Where do I get one of these?

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>>32953786
It's not exactly a "safety" but it is a replacement for your endplate that moves when the trigger is being pulled. The idea behind the invention was to make reholstering Glocks as safe as a DA/SA gun like a hammer fired gun like in pic

It is also 100% passive meaning that if and when it does break (it has been extensively tested for +5 years and +300,000 rounds over several samples with no reports of breakages), the gun still fires as normal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t69VcNx-58

This is where you buy it

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gadget-a-striker-control-device

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>>32952251
10/10 op

>>32953632
I'll bite
>only gun that you can fully Roland Special with a comp and everything

Sure, if you want to spend $1500+, most of which will be spent on features the gun should come with from the factory. You better be running some hot ammo through it too, or else you just spent 300 bucks to hang a paper weight off the end of your barrel that'll give you FTEs with standard pressure loads

>only handgun to have a SIRT pistol modeled after

I don't know why you wouldn't just dry fire. Also theres an M&P SIRT so this whole point is null.

>only handgun to have a simunition pistol modeled after

I guess this is neat, but certainly not a deal breaker.

>only handgun to have so much aftermarket that you can literally have a complete Glock with zero OEM Glock parts
>largest aftermarket of all handguns
>only gun that you could have every replacement part for just under $100
>only striker fired pistol as of now that can facilitate a striker control device

These are essentially the same point. I'll concede it, but it's mostly just due to the design being around unchanged for so long.A problem that arises with this is that you end up spending a lot more than you need to for features the gun should already have. It worked when the glock was relatively cheap compared to its competition, but not so much now that they've decided to enter the polymer striker game.

>has been extensively tested by SEALs, MARSOC and other US SOF teams
>has been used extensively by a large majority of LE agencies
>has been proven far more than any other polymer striker fired pistol

tl;dr it's a 32 year old design that's been used a bunch. Sure, it has the longest track record in its class, but there are plenty of steel framed and aluminum framed designs, as well as polymer hammer-fired designs that are just as tested and proven.

continued...

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>>32952251
>outing yourself as a noguns
>>reddit

>>32952251
I just bought a Gen 4 19 on a whim. How bad did I fuck up?

>>32952649
Wow, that stippling is dogshit.

>>32953632

>only polymer frame doublestack to have a total width of 1.2 inches

Most of glock's current competition are only hundredths of an inch wider, and it's often due to their controls. for instance, if the ppq didn't have its fuck-huge slide stops, it would be as thin or thinner than the glock.

As for your sights comment, why should someone buy a gun that they will have to immediately drop 50-100$ more on when they could buy a cheaper gun that has sights they might be able to use or even enjoy? Why pay more to fix the glocks trigger, ergonomics, slide serrations, etc. when you can buy competitively priced guns which have all of this from the factory?

As for your list of people who use the glock, lets take Pat Macnamara as an example. Pat's youtube videos all show him running glocks that have been worked over by either salient or SSVI, and probably cost him at least $1000. As with the Roland Special, most of the features he paid for should come with the pistol from the factory.

Glocks are great guns, but there are plenty of things about them that are either subpar or outdated. It would take very little effort for the company to improve these things, and maybe they will with gen 5, but to ignore these issues and declare them perfection by default isn't good for anyone.

>>32954119
>How bad did I fuck up?

You didnt.

What is /k/'s opinion of adding a thumb safety to glocks? I want to do this with my Glock 20 so I can keep it one in the chamber in my backpack without having to take off my pain in the ass holster to have something cover the trigger guard.

I'm looking to buy my first pistol mostly for self defense since it's just me and my gf. Budget 650. Seriously considering a glock 22 or 17. Wanting to hear all the feedback

>>32954144
it could be more aesthetic, but apparently it's very grippy

>>32954355
As this thread may have explained, glocks are good guns out of the box and you can rice them up anyway you like to fit your style. 17 or 19 would be the way to go as a first. 22, not so much due to the caliber.

>>32954393
Gotcha well that's another big question I have. 9mm or 40cal. Why one over the other?

>>32954419
9's probably better. more capacity, cheaper, easier to control, and the ballistic advantage of the 40 isn't really big enough to matter.

>>32954419
>9mm or 40cal
9mm. While both cartridges are fine, 9 is the better one. It's a bit cheaper than .40, lets you have a few more rounds per mag due to size, and the performance increase you get with .40 is so minuscule that the extra few rounds per mag 9mm offers more than makes up for it.

This is ultimately up to you, but 9/10 /k/ will say 9 is better.

>>32954454
>but 9/10
but 9/10 times*
Phoneposting is suffering.

Now are there other pistols I should look into? Bring new to guns I hold no loyalties as of yet. I'm also very left handed.

>>32954469
The p-10c (>>32952649) is fully ambidextrous. also it supposedly fits g-19 holsters, so you won't have to wait for companies to make holsters exclusively for it

>>32954355
Stick with 9mm and the 19 is much more flexible than the 17 in terms of what roles it can fill. The 19 is basically the same thing but it's easier to conceal.

The 19 is as good as it gets for a gun to use for learning how to shoot, home defense and conceal carry.

>>32954469
The Px4 Storm is a bit of a hidden gem. Comes in 9mm, .40, and .45. They can be found for relatively cheap ($300-$600 depending on how used) and are surprisingly soft yet accurate shooters. A little wide for carry, but a large shirt or a good holster fixes that.

The Smith and Wesson M&P 2.0 series is also worth looking at. The 2.0 versions improve upon the few (but annoying) failures the 1.0s had. These either come fully ambi or they can have the controls flipped. They can be found sub $550 new. 9mm, .40, and 45.

Or if you want to go full retard, you can get a Glock 20 and have sheer 10mm power. Drops bears and Jamals alike.

>>32954529
>The Px4 Storm is a bit of a hidden gem.

A fucking men.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAaC5o-9mpw&t=211s

The two pistols I recommend to new shooters are the Glock 19 or the PX4 Compact. They really represent the best in the 15+1 9mm Compact size category. I have a Glock 19+Gadget and I'm about to buy a PX4 Compact Carry.

>>32952251
Change gun.

>>32953632
Name a single Glock that has passed NATO testing.
>Pro tip
>You cant

>>32952442
Whats the VW Passat of cars. Want to match

>>32952251

>replace sights
Yup.

>stipple grip
No.

>replace frame
Tf? No.

>replace barrel
No.
>replace slide stop
No.
>replace mag release
No.

>replace trigger
Eh maybe polish it so it wears in faster.

>replace springs
No.

>replace guide rod
No.

>still has ejection problems
Hell no.

>still has shit trigger
No.

>glock perfection
No but breddy gud

>>32952283
this

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glock perfection

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>bought g17
>changed nothing on it, not even sights
I wouldn't say perfection, but for $350 I think it was well worth it.

The only thing I'd do is an FA conversion and get one of those magazine foregrip things like pic related depending with how this administration handles all this repeal the NFA hype going on right now.
>inb4 shut up retard they won'tdu nuffin

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>>32955333

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>>32955749

>>32954329
Just get one of those little trigger guard holsters.

http://shop.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/holsters-belt-gear/holsters/inside-the-waistband-holsters/vanguard-2-holster-w-lanyard-glock-gen-3-4-black-sku100018398-82518-174723.aspx?cm_mmc=PPC-_-Itwine-_-Google-_-100-018-398&gclid=CNCUj5aHiNICFUm2wAod-_kN4w

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>buys glock for $500
>sends it to Salient for $1000
> okay at best
>complains that the competitors' guns are overpriced

>mfw

>>32953632
The reason the Glock has the largest aftermarket is because of how shiity they are. Every other gun out there is fine by the time it leaves the factory

Glock makes me mad for one reason: the fanboys. Glocks are not top of the line. Glocks are not the best possible option. Glock provides an extremely functional handgun for a good price, not the fucking perfect handgun. I like glocks for what they are, but I'd rather have an FN, HK, or SIG.