Does anyone have experience with the Rock Island Armory 1911?

>>32951798
Some say they're fine, others report issues.

>>32951812
You have an idea of what sort of issues?

>>32951834
No idea. I don't own one so I haven't prowled many forums looking for info.

How hard is it to build a 1911? Is it financially worth it?

>>32951798
Auto Ordnance

>>32951798
If you're gonna get one just remember to get high quality mags. Most of the problems I've seen with Rock Islands come from the awful mags they come with.

>>32951798
buy a Tisas zig m1911. 350$ and very nice.

>>32951798
I have a ria 10mm 1911. Its fantastic. Mags are shit though but ria doesnt make their own mags. Buy wilson combat mags and youre golden.

>>32951798
Have both a Tisas and RIA both are fine and will function. the tisas has a much better finish and is not as rough as the RIA. The tisas uses a series 80 trigger whereas the RIA uses a series 70 (supposedly some tisas have series 70). I'd say go with which ever you can get cheapest but if its a difference of of less than $60 go tisas

>>32951864
from parts its not hard its possible a person to make a functional 1911. thats said theres a difference between barely functional and what people would consider decent. your going to spend like 400-1000 on parts mangle the fuck out of them since you dont know what you are doing and end up with a worse gun than just buying a factory one.

ria makes a functional cheap gun. they arent a good base for upgrading since things arent blueprinted or square. truing them up to upgrade isnt cost effective. if you just want a shooter grade blaster ria is acceptable.

>>32951834
Most of the issues were from older runs, a lot like the glocknade .40 issues the reputation stuck. Their quality has been improving over the years.

>>32951798
Springfield GI

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>>32952224
Seconded.

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>>32951798
RIA is supposed to be decent.

>>32951864
I'd rank them "advanced" for building out.

>Parts & kits
Sarco sells complete kits (including barrel, slide, sights, all lower parts, and a magazine) for $250 to $275 including shipping. That's RIA-tier--so essentially equal to what was made during WW2. Perfectly serviceable and a great gun to beat up or stash away. You're looking at $450+ for a purely functional gun.

>80% route
Most frames are $150 to $200 for good examples without blemishes. Add about $25 for the final finish. The best tool would be a milling machine and experience using it. Barring that, you can usually get elbow grease jigs for about $200. 1911's are relatively complex and not all 80% frames are the same. Basically, all of them need the slide rails cut and drilling out a few holes. Some will need decking or to cut the barrel seat.

>Milling machine
If you have or can get a milling machine, then that's your best route for a wider range of firearms. It also opens up cool possibilities--like not needing a jig at all to build 1911's, 2011's, Sig P229's, Glock 17's, Glock 19's, AR-15's, LR-308's, AK-74's, 10/22's, and more.

As an example, Matrix sells a P229 frame for $275 and a P228 refinished parts kit for $300. The necessary jigs adds $375--so you're looking at $950 for your first P228 and $575 for each subsequent. Or that $375 is 50+% of a new mini-mill. Now if you want to build a 1911, you can reuse part of Matrix's jigs from the P229 and buy a decking/drilling jig for $100 or so. Or skip that and get Stealth Arms' 1911 jig kit for $200. And since your 80% collection isn't complete until you have an AR or two, an AR-15 jig is about $100. Now you're about $600 and did everything by hand. You're up to $575 already there. Or you can spend $700 for a mini mill. The other issue is that jigs wear out--especially if you drill free-hand. Even if not, a cheap drill press is about $100 on its own and still isn't designed for steel or aluminum.

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>>32952224
>>32952303
The Springfield Mil-Spec is a fantastic 1911

>>32952627
Cool, I figured their would be a "Springfield's suck" post by now after posting that. I've always heard good things about the Springfield 1911's. I recently got my first 1911 (a TRP) and can't wait to get it to the range.

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OP, if you are a avid 1911 fan, sure get it. But if you are supper into 1911s, id say pass, and save up money for a better one. For the money, yes its nice, but with non adjustble sights, basic GI style grips, etc, dont demand too much from it. pic related

>>32951948
There is an ethical dilemma buying a turk gun