Milsurp rifles bread

>Ishapore with a square mag bottom
So it's a 7.62x51 Enfield? Go for it. That's a decent deal.

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>>32937115
>>32937123
>>32937134
>wat do
Buy real fuckin' NATO rifle.

>Find a forum that apparently has tons of pictures so I can research what some of the marks look like
>Pictures are only viewable to forum members :)
fine fuck it I'll sign up so I can see what's in it
>Registering for this forum is disabled :) It was probably disabled by the moderator

Wow thanks Mosin-Nagant-Forum, great resource for collectors indeed.

Some of the members looked like they took nice photos too based on the 3 accidentally embedded images that werent disabled.

>>32937492
Fucking beautiful

>>32937378
Yeah the 2a1's are the factory made 7.62 ones.
>>32938017
dead forums are the worst

>>32937115
Bring snap caps to check feeding. I have one and it won't feed for shit.

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This Enfield worth a buy? $550
Tag says ww1 mk3

Has nade can and the wire wrapping, which didn't look like it was more than cosmetic

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>>32938336
it's not even dead. There are multiple posts from today even. It's just a members only club from the look of it.

>>32938418
not an expert, but I've heard those tend to be beat to hell given the grenade firing rounds had like 3 times the kick a regular round did. I'd be really careful about making sure it's in good shape. Looks cool though.

Ian did a video on them and it's really neat to see how the grenade cup works. Heck if you could make some blanks you might even be able to turn it into a "grenade" launcher again, and just shoot tennis balls out of it or something.

So I ordered a Spanish mauser and went to look at it today, but I have to wait 10 days to pick it up, so no pics yet. Anyways, it was kinda packed with grease, I guess is what it is. Can I have tips for cleaning it? Also, 7x57 is the same as 7mm mauser correct? Because they sent 100 rounds of 7mm mauser

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>>32938302
Mmmhmm.

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>>32938630
Pic related

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>>32938630
>Can I have tips for cleaning it?
Immerse the metal parts in mineral spirits for 24-48hrs; you can pull them out and just wipe them dry. For the wood heat it up with a heat gun or hair dryer (125°F is what you're aiming for) and wipe off the cosmoline as it liquefies.
>Also, 7x57 is the same as 7mm mauser correct?
Yes.
>>32938660
Hey I got 300rds of that a few months ago; still haven't shot it. Remember to wear your eyepro, especially when shooting older ammo.

>>32938630
Yes, 7mm Mauser is 7x57.
Cleaning the wood use a heat gun or stick it in some black trash bags in the sun for a few hours of you don't know what snow is. For the metal use boiling water or kerosene.

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>>32938729
cool thanks guys
>snow
never heard of it

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Picked up this Swedish M96 for $310 at local fun show. All numbers matching except rear sight. Stripped her down and cleaned her, she was dusty as hell. Bore seems immaculate.

Only issue is front sight ring is loose and wobbles. Pretty much every pic on google I could find makes it look like the sight is mounted directly to the barrel instead of on a separate ring.

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>>32938830
Pic related

>carpet tier pics because fuck going outside

>>32938830
My Oh my....that is a lovely rifle. Almost makes me want to put it higher on my list.

I have a 1918 Webley mkVI on hold at my lgs until my pistol permit comes in (lol NY) but the previous owner was an employee there and he sold me two full boxes of Fiocchi .455 ammo for $25/box so that was the highlight of my day.

>>32938830
damn those stripes are gorgeous

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>>32938830
>Pretty much every pic on google I could find makes it look like the sight is mounted directly to the barrel instead of on a separate ring.
It's mounted on a ring; they just blend the ring into the barrel profile so well when they polish it up before and after bluing. The band is held in place via a set screw hidden below the front sight dovetail, and silver solder between the ring and the barrel. The set screw needs to be checked and perhaps replaced, and then the sight base re-soldered.

Beautiful stock on that one.

>>32938884
Sweet.

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>>32938896
yeah, I stopped dead when I first saw it. instantly made the decision to buy it just for the stripes.

>>32938938
god it just gets sexier every picture. How did they get those stripes? Was that intentional?

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>>32938918
alright, thanks for the info.

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>>32938964
Happens with the treatment of the wood I believe. My K31 has a similar thing going on, though not nearly as sexy.

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>>32938964
not sure if it was intentional. from what limited research I've done after purchasing it, it seems that it was slightly uncommon, but not exceedingly rare. at least until they switched to beech wood stocks.

>>32937115
Buy. That do.

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I've got a question for anyone that knows No4s well.

So my No4 1/2 was made at the Maltby factory, but the bolt (same SN) has "D" marks on it meaning it was made at the Enfield plant. Was this normal or is my bolt forced matched?

>>32939291
It probably got a new bolt body when upgraded to Mk.2.

>>32938630
One of the J&G Spanish Mausers?

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>>32939425
Thanks. It's weird that all the other parts are marked with Fazakerely's "F".

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GP11 I order finally got here but I don't get another day off till Tuesday.

>>32939741
yeah
didn't look too bad, just dirty but I'll get a better look at it when I bring it home

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Just failed a college class even though I tried my hardest not to, guess ill post some surps to take my mind off it, its gonna be a rough ride from here on out.

whats the best milsurp rifle i can buy for ~$500
only thing is i would like ammo to be relatively available

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>>32940097

Lee Enfield, ammo is out there and commercially produced, its not super cheap but its available. There's even some in 7.62 NATO

Another good option would be a Mauser of some sort, they were made in several calibers.

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>>32940116
any good reputable retailers or check gb?

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>>32940071
Bummer. I failed Philosophy 101 back in the day.

>>32940097
Ishapore 2A1 SMLE or any Mauser 98 in 7.62NATO (like Chilean M1912/61, FN Police carbine or Israeli Kar.98k); ammo will be affordable and available for at least 20 years to come.

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>>32940137

Gun broker would have them, check your local armslist, gun shows are probably your best bet. I'm not sure if any of the sites have them right now.

>>32940147

This was Server Configuration, the previous course that was suppose to prep me for it was taught by a new teacher who didn't really know what she was doing and just kinda handed out As, didn't realize I wasn't ready.

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Remington M91 Bore >>32940124

vs a Tula 91/30 Bore, pictured here >>32940218

>>32940209
sweet thanks

>>32940071
>only 4 weeks into semester

What

Either way that sucks, been there, done that, paying for it now. Stick it out. If your college is like mine there's a ton of resources to help you. All you have to do is ask.

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>>32940299

It was a technical school with funky terms, we went 5 weeks for four hours a night rather then a normal semester. Their idea was to have us in and out as fast as possible.

>>32940147
Are Israeli 98k's that good? Different guy here but I'd love to own one. Much like Finn rifles they have this crazy irony behind them and the history inherent to those rifles would make them very interesting.

If they're economic to shoot that's just a bonus.

>>32940322
>their idea was to have us in and out as fast as possible

ehhhh that's a odd choice but I'm taking wildlife biology so what the hell do I know about computers.

Either way be strong fellow college bro.

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>>32940352

Yeah they switched it up on us about half way through, originally we had the traditional semester style system in place. Guess I'll just have to retake it if they don't decide to kick me out for some reason.

No clue what wildlife biology is like, never was good at anything science related.

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OP here, kinda got spooped after looking around. I have no snap caps but the guy told me he has done the mad minute with brass and the magazine worked fine.

I've been watching videos and heard head spacing issues and stuff so thats got me nervous, plus I would be shooting .308 if I get it.
Probably just cheap tula (loaded lighter than most .308 so it would be fine I would think) and maybe some hunting rounds if I eventually do that. Or what ever brass 7.62 is cheapest.

>Also muh rear locking lugs.

Should I be concerned about this?

Is $400 a good deal? I would probably need to get it done through and ffl as well.

I don't have a ton of money so I am just nervous to spend $400 on a indian rifle.

I'll probably try to sell my cut maverick and type 53 to recover some cost, since .308 is cheaper than 54r. Or might try to trade it for a long nugget since I like how they look.

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AC45 K43

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>>32940419

I always kinda wanted one of those, however I've never found one that I'm actually willing to pay for. So a Hakim was a acceptable semi auto 8mm that I could afford.

>>32940300
hawt

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>>32940322
>Their idea was to have us in and out as fast as possible
Sounds like a scam to me. Still, that sucks man.

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>>32940479
Yea I was lucky enough to find mine for a whopping $500 dollars (apparently just the matching barreled action was worth at least 1k+) before Facebook banned gun sales. I don't think I'd pay the 2.5k+ for a good condition one.

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>>32940404

You're probably fine, but I can understand the concern. Maybe try to find a gunsmith you can meet up at who can look it over before you buy? Also you don't need to have long guns transferred at an FFL, you can do them through private sales, unless you live in some shit state that doesn't allow it.

>>32940557
I've considered that myself before, but I'm so far in the hole now I might as well try to finish it up at least.

>>32940580

My brother found a magazine for one at an antique shop for $10, he turned around and sold it for something like $270 on ebay, it's crazy how much those things and their parts go for. Still would love one some day, but not unless I win the lottery or something.

>>32937115
their bores are always mint, numbers matching is pretty common, the stock on that one is decent considering poo in the loo rifles usually have the shittiest wood ever

i watched a $400 ishapore here in california go unsold for 5 months, the seller eventually tried dropping his price to $350 then withdrew his ad. you have the power, its a buyers market. i would offer $250

i bought mine for $120 back in 2005, it would be hard for me to buy one for any more than $200

>>32940600
I could do a private sale, but most people are bitchy about ffl's, plus no ccw.

>bought a Remington 510 targetmaster
>single shot .22 bolt action
>pre 68 so there isn't even a serial number
>guy insists on ffl anyway

>>32937115
edited to add it looks like the owner stripped and cleaned the wood himself, so he probably thought of himself as a professional gunsmith and i would be cautious he didnt fuck up or "improve" any other aspect of the rifle. the metal looks refinished as well. i would use the fact its not in original condition as a bargaining chip to beat him down

they are nice accurate rifles but not very collectible

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>>32940352
>Are Israeli 98k's that good?
They're fine. About half of the ones on the US market took a detour through Honduras (or was it Guatemala) before coming to the US so they can sometimes be in rough shape; just check them over for pitting and the like before buying. Israel made the switch from 8x57mm to 7.62x51mm before NATO even officially adopted it. Most are ex-German Kar.98k but just about every standard-length M98 the Israelis could get their hands on was used (I have seen an ex-Ethiopian FN M1930 receiver used to build an Israeli Kar.98k).

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>>32938418
theres a fucking industrial hexbolt in the stock. that is not an original rifle, is it some pakistani khyber shit?

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>>32940600
Yea I probably spent more on parts then I did on the gun. I can understand it though since they only made 400,000 during the war and they had high attrition. Hell of a deal on that magazine though. I forget what I paid for mine like $150 I think. Germans had a shortage of them even during the war even.

>>32938418
whats the price on the arisaka next to it? it comes with a sling

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>>32940704

>check them over for pitting and the like before buying

This, I almost bought one myself once for $400, then decided to check the bore last second only to find it was a complete sewer pipe without even a hint of rifling left.

Pic is at the range with my bro, who has a Winchester M1 from 1943, SMLE and the Tok are mine, as is the little Chinese .22lr pistol.

>>32940736
Lel that's not an Arisaka

>>32940721
That's typical of Indian grenade-launching rifles; it reinforces the fore-end to keep the heavy recoil from splitting it.

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r8 my roach

>>32940743
goddamn why did I get into this hobby, every time I see another rifle on here I want it.

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>>32940816

Welcome to milsurp, once you start you can't stop.

>>32940600
you know if Tokarevs are legal in California?
I read something that said C&R pistols don't need to comply with that handgun roster or whatever, but it seemed to be a pretty old post so I don't know if that's still the case

>>32940838
I need to stop coming here, seeing all the beautiful Enfields, Mausers, and K31's is killing me.

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>>32940864

They should be? I'm not sure to be honest, they only hold 8 rounds in the mag so they shouldn't have any problems there. Quick google search says they are off the roster, you just have to find a dealer and have them order one.

>>32940888

You know what you must do anon, go forth and collect

>>32940838
>born too late to enjoy cheap milsurp
>born too early to enjoy mosins on mars
>born just in time to be jealous of all your collections

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>>32940722

>>32940917
Ok, so in an effort to save me from myself/encourage me to do something stupid, I just checked enfields on a whim to see what they were going for on gunbroker. Found this little Australian enfield

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/618732570

Why is it only $250 and no one bidding on it? Are enfields traditionally this cheap? If it's good (and it looks pretty good for a milsurp from what I can tell as a new guy) it'd be cool to own an aussie enfield.

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>>32940946

>>32940071
Fuck college, become a skilled laborer.

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>>32940976

It has a reserve on it, meaning the seller has set a minimum price that it has to reach before he will get rid of it, so that could be anything from 300 to ridiculous prices like 700. Otherwise it looks like a decent gun.

>>32941001

I considered applying for a railroad position somewhere, always liked to tinker with things, I think working on big locomotives would be fun, or at least getting to drive them. Don't need a personal life anyway.

>>32940917
Tokarev will probably be my next purchase then

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>>32940983
Have to update my pics of my other Mausers so here are all their receivers.
>>32940976
Reserve is probably at least double starting price, people tend to bid on stuff in the last few hours though.

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>>32940805
Nice bayonet; is it shortened?

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>>32941043
ayyy CE 43 bro

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Grandpa, dad, and son

>>32941020
>>32941043
>>32941043
>reserve

Figured as much. I'm just kind of goofing around on gunbroker right now trying to get an idea of value for various rifles. My best odds of finding good rifles around here are searching estate sales and small gun shows, so the best I can do is do the research now.

Odds are if I find something that's a good deal I won't have much time to jump on it. Sitting there on my phone looking it up would probably be a bad idea.

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>>32941043
Earliest K98
>>32941065
Ayy, what's your serial number? I saw one on Gunbroker really close to my serial number but ended up in Russia like yours.

>>32941095
8672

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>>32940750
That front barrel band looks familiar tho

>>32939122
appears to be curly maple

>>32937115
Schmidt Ruben for 400 worth it?

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>>32941120
Here's mine. Hopefully we are the same letter block. That would be cool.

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>>32941143
Every Mauser Model from 1890-1895 had that upper barrel band.

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>>32940816
It's a curse really.

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>>32941187
I'm just saying Nip Mauser best Mauser

>>32938830
You done good. I love that straight stock, plus the coloration.
6.5 Swedish is a good round, also.

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>>32940976
Sometimes you just get lucky on Gunbroker. Not often, but sometimes.

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>>32941095
And finally not technically a K98, a G29(o) made in Austria for the Luftwaffe.

>>32941164
Supposedly it's walnut.

What's the average accuracy of a No1 mk3?

My Lithgow is apparently capable of ~1MOA at benchrest.

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>>32941184
my same letter block, im assuming the number thats stamped deeper?

>>32941216
this

>>32941001
So much fucking this. 4-year schools are packed to the gills with snowflake buffoons and the value of a degree has been slowly shrinking.

There is no shame in getting your hands dirty to build or fix stuff. It pays well and training is way cheaper than college.

t.welding student

>>32940816
I know that feel. Bought my first surplus a week ago and I'm already looking to add more.

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>>32941303
Mine is actually an "n" block. Yours was made roughly 67,000 rifles later than mine which is a shame since our serials are so close. I've never seen the 2 eagles stamped on the receiver like that, that's pretty neat.

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>>32941052
Yes sadly. but its stll a point bit.

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M'osin

>>32940976
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/618732570
>someone immediately doubled the price within minutes of me posting this

Thank you?

I have a question regarding my Mosin. The bolt seems to stick when trying to lift it to eject a casing. I have to really crank on it to get the bolt handle to the vertical position. What can I do to make cycling my bolt a bit easier?

>>32941678
check the bolt and see if it's still got cosmoline in it

>>32941693
It doesn't, I took every piece of the rifle apart and cleaned the shit out of it the day I bought it. I always properly clean and lube everything when I'm done shooting, too.

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>>32941233
Nice! I can't wait to see pics of it when it arrives.

>Sometimes you just get lucky on Gunbroker. Not often, but sometimes.
I've gotten lots of luck on gunbroker. You just have to have a good eye and searching. I bought my pre-armistice, unfired since prooving, Mle-1936 for only $600, which was the starting price, because the seller didn't list it as the usual name of MAS-36. It was like MAS-1936.

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>>32941723
I also bought this WWII Chinese cut-down M1917 for dirt cheap off of Numrich on gunbroker because no one else knew what it was.

I wish I didn't trade it off ;_;

>>32940419
>that stock
You didn't do that right? How much weight could that wood possibly save?

>>32937115
Ishapore rifles use to be pretty cheap and last time i priced on in a shop it was $350 and that was 3 years ago so $400 doesn't seem all that bad to be honest. Plus it was not re-chambered to 308 it was made to use it and it will perform well. I'd say pick it up Enfield action and shoots a more common round what could you lose.

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>>32941814
Nope Vet who bought it back probably did. Was a common thing to do back in the day, he was probably going to sporterize it even more but decided to stick it in a wall instead.

>>32941171
Which one?

>>32941673
I'd recommend cropping the picture slightly and posting that instead while saying you saw it at a pawn shop or some guy locally is selling it and that's a pic.

Never trust anyone.

>>32941897
nah it's all good, I wasn't dead set on it. Mainly just trying to get a good idea on prices for Enfields.

Good to know though.

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I impulse bought a k31.

Is there an autistic level sight i can learn what every minor stamp is? Or why this troop tag seems to get peoples panties wet?

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>>32941723
Should be here sometime next week. Hopefully. Sent the MO out Saturday so it should be there by now.

Tomorrow however I may be picking up a big brother for my Kar98. I have a line on a Gew98 from 1913.

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>>32940209
just got my bayonet in the mail for my Enfield

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>tfw doing the group buy for the Gras and 7.65 Longue dies
>tfw have neither a gun in those calibers or a reloading set up yet

>>32942182
You are uh missing some barrel bands there. You need some I might have a set depending on the year of your rifle

>>32942182
Are those Enfield bayonettes expensive? I have one that was my dad's. Not sure where he got it, he never owned an Enfield rifle as far as I know.

>>32942248
yea good eye i just ordered them today, the metal is all matching but stock isnt

>>32942224
>TFW I bought Longue dies two years ago for $200
I can't get a Gras unfortunately.

>>32942262
i paid 60 cad for it

>all these SMLEs
Are they more popular than No4s?

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/619796400

HHNNNNNNNGGGGGGG

>>32942342
Yea that's how I find most of mine. Though they are missing the barrel bands because the stock is cut down though, they are a good deal when the action is all matching.

>>32942462
fake Khyber Pass rifle

>>32942462
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/619796400


oh lawdy

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>>32942348
You have a M1935A or S?

Why can't you get a Gras?

>>32942472
i didnt buy the action my granpappy brought it back from ww2 and sporterized it im just making it original again

>>32942494
What year and maker is it?

>>32942515
1941 bcd

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>>32942493
Neither yet.

And I can't get a Gras because I'm limiting my collection to smokeless only rifles. Otherwise I have no realistic point where I can stop collecting.

I have 58 once fired 7.5 french casings originally made by PPU.

I have done nothing to them beyond extract them from my MAS 36 and place them in a plastic bag.

How much can I resell them back for? I don't reload at the moment.

>>32942748
15$.

>>32942530
So why did you pay $200 for a set of dies?

So you need an M74M80M15 then?

>>32942486
>http://www.gunbroker.com/item/619796400
WHERE IS THE PROOFS?

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>>32942801
Bought a fuck ton of dies with my profit sharing that year, figuring I'd need them eventually.

And yes I definitely need a 8mm Gras. Almost bought Ians but I went in another direction.

So I finally signed up for gunbroker. Are fraud, shadow bidding and other unscrupulous activities really as prevalent as they're made out to be?

>>32943157
Depends who you deal with. But if you're hunting for surplus, you'll eventually see Sreisel. He can have good stuff occasionally (the Belgian 1889 from the last thread was his) but very often he shadow bids and will be fraudulent in his listings.

>>32939767
>>32939291
Any time after an Enfield was made it was liable to be replaced by whatever parts. If your serial number matches you're good to go. What armourers did, even in peace time, was go through their box of spares and find any part that fit. From there they would hand fit as nessacary and inspect it, then re-serial the part to the rifle. Very common to find any upgraded or FTR'd rifle with parts from all over the place, and even rifles that haven't seen either of those two processes might have parts swapped out by unit armourers.

>>32941284
2-4MOA if it's good or decent.

>>32943210
What about people listing one rifle as another one entirely?

>>32942417
4s are best.

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>>32943393
Fucking moot, rotating my images.

>>32937115
>>32937123
>>32937134
I have one great gun. Buy it pussy.

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>>32943687
Poor punctuation makes for humorous posts.

Someone on my local Armslist is selling a MAS 36 for $180.

Good idea y/n?

>>32944582
Y.

>>32944537
That looks like a pretty comfy range.

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>>32944851
It is.

>>32941195
I want one so badly, but I'm poor

>>32944582
Original caliber or not?

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>>32944956
Start saving man. You're probably young. It took me 10 years until I could realistically afford my SVT.

>>32943365
Never seen that, beyond usual not knowing what something is (Berthier labeled as Lebels, Etc). That sort of fraud you can "easily" rectify and get your money back on.

What bullet weight do you choose for your guns?

The original "intended" surplus ammo weight or a lighter or heavier bullet?

For example .303 is supposed to be 174gr but 150 and 180gr ammo are both cheaper.

>>32937115
u r gay and should go put in some drywall

>>32945576
Someone posted a clearly labeled Turkish Mauser as an Argentine one, but honestly I'm fine with either.

Can i put a k98k magazine follower on a yugo m48?

>>32945567
What's your overall opinion of the SVT? Function, aesthetics, je ne sais quoi, alongside 54r bolt overlap

I'm a pretty big slavaboo

>>32946965
I'm gonna catch shit for this, but I honestly think it's a better overall rifle than the Garand. It's light, easy to shoot, very reliable as long as you avoid the extreme ends of gas cylinder. It's a good rifle, miles better than a Mosin. And probably the 2nd best looking battle rifle around (Mas 44 is #1).

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Sadly that prewar Gew98 was snatched up before I could get to it.

>>32945567
How much did you pay? Last time I saw one at an auction locally, it went for 850 plus bidder's premium, which was too rich for my blood so soon after buying my m1903a3.

>>32948193
$1200 I think, but mines a Finn.

>>32937115
I got one non mint for bout tree fitty. If it's what you want I say go for it.

>>32948199
>Finn SVT 40

Never seen one of those. Did the finns modify them like they did Mosins or did they leave them alone for the most part?

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>>32948540
No they just mixed and matched parts on them.

>>32946912
help

>>32941020
Railway is a great career if you don't have a personal life.

>>32948580
Did you deblue the bolt?

>>32938938
That's hot. I'm jealous.

>>32943687
I just got one the other day and the bolt won't feed the rounds into the chamber unless I hold the mag up
so pretty much the mag catchs too low
How do I fix this?

>>32949082
No, the Finns never blued (plumed?) It. That's one reason I wanted a Finn.

>>32937115
What year is it? Skimmed the thread but didn't see date. I have a '47 .303 Ishy that's just as pretty on the outside. Lent it to my dad for a couple years. The fucker (God rest his soul) shot corrosive surplus out of it, but cleaned it like you would after regular ammo. The bore is now grey-black. Can still shoot 2 inch groups at 100yd, but it feels ruined.

BUY IT!

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>>32948199
is that a normal price in the us? these are canadian prices

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>>32950369

>>32950384
>>32950369
>$400 for an SVT 40

[heavy breathing]

Jesus I wish it was.

>>32950408
yea that sucks for us guys i feel like you guys would put them to better use

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>>32950369
>>32950384

this upsets me greatly.

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>>32950435
>>32950408
you can hand select them too

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>>32950451

pls stop

>>32950458
is there a way you guys could import them to the U.S?

>>32950369
>>32950384
>>32950451
Those are for Soviet refurbs though.

>>32950471
Technically, yes, since the requirement is for the rifles to be in another country for 5 years before they can be imported. I know some importers have tried, but the ATF still said no.

>>32950549
ah cool

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>>32950369
Yes, but my mags aren't pinned. And I didn't pay $4000 for a Garand.

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>>32941216

agreed

>>32950600
someone mad

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>>32950634
Not really. If I were poor or without an SVT maybe though.

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>>32950608
Your sling, which I assume is a repo, is on backwards. Do you know the series and manufacturer?

>>32938830
That stock is great.

>>32938938
I already have a very nice matching M96, but I would have scooped that up instantly if I saw it for $310

>>32942748
I'd give you $25 shipped for them.

>>32937115

Where can I get some British stripper clips for a lee enfield? All I can find are the Italian ones and it's hard as fuck to load my rifle with them. They also mar my brass really bad.

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>>32951994
Those Italian made ones must have been made with a different thickness. They do suck. I lucked out and bought a bandolier of 50s FN made .303 with nice FN made clips. I also bought a pack of 10 stripper clips online and lucked into ONE British made one.

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>>32937115
r8

>>32952131

Italians are made of heavy gauge steel and parkerized which makes them very tight and abrasive. The brit clips were blued and made from stamped sheet metal if I recall so they are looser and smoother.

>>32952154
send it to me for T&E and I'll get back to you on that

>>32952170
The Italian clips also have a round hole at the spring end. The Brits eventually went oval to allow a longer spring section that takes less force to flex.
Bit of tweaking and polishing will have the Italians working almost as well.

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To all those fuckers that helped me figure out that my Extractor was fucked on my Yugo mauser thank you! It actually extracts bullet casings from the chamber now.


also is it ever worth to get a lebel or arisaka rifle considering how rare or expensive the ammo can be?

also if I got an arisaka should I try and get a MUM with dust cover?

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>>32952154
Give me/10.
Unless it's in 8x56. Then it's a sexy but not for me/10.

>>32952237
Lebel is fun as fuck. But ammo only comes in once a year so you pretty much HAVE to reload.

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Only Finn capture SVT 40 in the country I know of with the original matching bolt.

>>32952286
Now I have to check mine when I get home.

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>>32952286
jesus that bolt is fucked

nice

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>>32952286
>>32952345
You should. I scored it on gunbroker for like $900 dollars to
>>32952356
It's not actually rust, it's like old grime

>>32952154
https://youtu.be/YxxdF8raD4w
holy fuck I'm riding an Austria feel wave

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>>32952237
You don't get into collection Japanese or French guns if you want to shoot them much.

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>>32952669

I caved and am now bidding on a type 99 with the imperial chrysanthemum and matching dust cover.

>tfw can't stop buying all these ridiculously beautiful milsurp guns

I started shooting 2 months ago and already bought a mauser, lee enfield, and now possibly an arisaka

>>32952732
just make sure the arisaka you buy is better than the one I bought
;_;

>>32952732
>Started on milsurp
Your poor poor wallet. Welcome to the dark side though. Soon you will only deem the most obscure unstoppable rifles as worthy of your collection.

>>32952732
Rip bank account

Would most Finnish Mosin Nagants be more accurate than a .308 modern bolt action hunting rifle (Savage Axis, Remington 700, ect.)?

>>32953009
probably not

>>32952878

thankfully I'm not in debt and have 14 grand banked so I can take the financial hit.

but you fuckers weren't lying about this shit being expensive

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>>32952732
I just got a Type 38 for $200 at a gun show. Mum is there. I'm hooked too.

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>>32953009
it's good enough

>>32953035
Nutnfancy said that his Russian 91/30s weren't much different in accuracy compared with his new bolt guns. I know he says some stupid shit but I think that kind of thing is hard to get wrong when you spend so much time shooting

>>32952732
I started on milsurp as well.

I want to buy a k98, preferably used during WWII but I'll take a yugo refurb if it still has some nazi eagles on it. I don't really know much about stamping or whatnot.

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>>32937115
Muh milsurp raifus

>>32953084

>m1 garand

should I wait and pray that the south Korean gods will send us their ridiculous supply of m1 garands and m1 carbines and lower the price?

or is it fucked?

>>32953120
They should just give them to us. Because, you know, the US gave them the rifles in the first place. Hopefully Trump will let them in.

>>32953046
Refinished stock/10

>>32953009
No. My cheap-o 270 is miles above any of my milsurp rifles accuracy wise.

>>32953120
I wouldn't count on it.

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>>32953200

fuck guess I'll wait a few more months for my wallet to be less shit

>>32953179
Are you sure it's not the ammo?
Because I want my milsurps to be accurate and knowing they're not would make me sad.

>>32953308

I have heard K-31s are ridiculously accurate

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>>32953120
Depends, I enjoy shooting it so I'd rather have it now

Also anyone know where I can get some cheap .303 ammo and is it safe to shoot commercial ammo out of it?

>>32952732
>I started shooting 2 months ago and already bought a mauser, lee enfield, and now possibly an arisaka

Goddamn, and I thought I went full retard when I threw $500 down on a pair of Finnish Mosins to start my collection.

>>32953322
K31s, M39s, Swedish Mausers are all renowned for accuracy

>>32953009
A lot of more experienced shooters I've met tend to claim the gun is more accurate than you are, but then again you're using a rifle that potentially fought in multiple wars and has been around in one configuration or another for over a hundred years.

That said, Finn mosins are supposed to be pretty nice.

>>32953359
..relative to other milsurp rifles

I wouldn't buy anything that was made to be mass produced for a war 70+ years ago with the expectation it's better than what you could buy today

>>32953352

I did a cost calculation and I have lost 700 or so bucks for the two rifles and all necessities to maintain them.

if I win the arisaka my financial hit is roughly 850.

this is not including the ridiculous cost of ammunition for these fucking guns.

>>32953134
>Trump will let them in

He's demolishing free trade deals all over the place. Why the heck would he allow a huge surplus of highly desirable firearms to flood the market and run shitty modern American firearm companies out of business?

Now Soviet imports I could possibly see, but even there I'm skeptical. I'd imagine most of that surplus has gone to all the little brush wars and rebellions by this point.

>>32953439
>highly desirable firearms to flood the market and run shitty modern American firearm companies out of business

would a boat load of m1 garands fuck any American companies up? I didn't think that many people would want to own an m1 garand other than milsurp fags. Seems like most fuckers just want AR-15s and AK-47s.

>>32953439
Because there's what, two companies making M1 carbines today? That's like saying that importing a hundred thousand vintage wines and liquors will hurt the sale of Anheuser Busch

>>32953468
Korea has 1911's. 1911's especially seem to be made by everyone these days.

Having access to not shit 1911's under even a grand would be a heck of a blow to most of them.

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>>32953308
I load all my own milsurp ammo. It's the guns.

Not that they're inaccurate mind you. They're just not as accurate.
>>32953322
Not as much as you think.

Okay, I did a quick Google search. People have reported sub-MOA with Swedish Mausers, M39s, and Savage Axes. [lolnospoiler]Just let me believe :'([/lolnospoiler]

>>32953506
I disagree. Anyone in the market for a $1,000+ 1911 isn't going to be swayed by a milsurp one unless they also want a milsurp one for their collection. People who want a budget 1911 MIGHT upgrade from getting some shitty philipino RIA to getting a surplus one, which I don't see a problem with.

>>32953595
Unless you're planning to do top of the line competition shooting what does it matter anon? They're still going to be more than accurate enough for the average joe shooter.

>>32937492
Fucking beautiful babe

>>32938638
HHNNNNNNNGGGGGG

>>32938938
LOL NIGGER WHAT

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My SMLE.

Anyone know if Ecuadorian 8mm is shit tier ammo?

also unrelated should I start a gun stock companies that makes replacement forends for the SMLE since well no one seems to make any that arent sporter style

>>32953756
Fucking nice Lithgow m8, you are missing the mag cut off btw.

>>32953778
I know, I'm not in any rush to get a new one.

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>Inb4 SHIT LEE

The shit lees are in the trees, Randy.. Shit lees in the trees...

>>32953814
sell it to me and Ill buy one

>>32953756
>>32953824
pls stop

I want an Enfield so bad. That full bodied stock is just too sexy

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>>32953825
$1000 and its yours, familia

>>32953849
>pls stop
No.

>>32953866
>1000 dollars for a Lithgow
Nigger say what?

>>32953778
>Anyone know if Ecuadorian 8mm is shit tier ammo?
It's got deep/hard primers like 1950s Yugo; you're gonna need a heavier mainspring.

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>>32953873
;)

pls help
newguns here, i picked up a nugget and it came with a matching bayonet, however every single time i go to put it on it slides on until the sight protector touches the sight, then it gets stuck and i cant push it more to twist it on. What do i do

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>>32953825
Nah, I'm not interested in selling it. I've been looking for a bayonet for ages though. I just can't be arsed to spend $80 for a reproduction that may or may not even fit.

>>32953890
Bayonets were meant to stay on the rifles almost permanently. They're a pretty tight fit even in the best of times.

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>>32953878
would a 22lb work fine for it?

>>32953879
>tfw no Lithgow to put all my Cupro through
>tfw cant out of my SMLE because the fucking stock is cracked
Well at least it getting glass bedded will be better then waiting on ebay for a stock set only to be out bidded by a Canadian who will pay 500 bucks for it

>>32953890
Kek

Get a mallet. And then another mallet for when you need to yank the fucker off.

>>32953905
>would a 22lb work fine for it?
Yes.

>>32953913
Sweet

>>32953352
>>32952732
Same boat as these guys. Started collecting 6 months ago and already have a Ljungman, Hakim, K31, Yugo SKS, Mosin, Arisaka type 99 with all accessories and a M95. Spent 2200 overall and none of the guns are below 8/10 condition and not a single non-matching part. Currently I'm keeping my eyes open for either a nice kar98k/gewehr 98 or a Russian contract winchester 1895.

>>32953910
I guess i'll have to get a screwdriver then to actually get it in.

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>>32953778
>Fucking nice Lithgow m8
I haz one too. A Heavy barreled 1915.

>you are missing the mag cut off btw.
Yeah, but they're often were pulled off during a rebuild. It's common for them to be gone.

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>>32953824
Nice here's mine. Maybe they're brothers. I think mine killed japs at least.

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>>32954001
Someone needs to send me a Lithgow mag ;_;

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>>32954053

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http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/617327000/617327905/pix450982646.jpg

>intrusive import marks
so many ruined rifles

>>32954087
I can understand why you would want a Lithgow mag but why not just get a replacement so you can at least shoot it

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>>32954087
Looking to sell mine since I have to pay to fix my car after a hit and run.

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>>32953952
>a Russian contract winchester 1895.
Hope you have your money saved. They aren't cheap at all. Mine is the cheapest I've ever found and it was $2000.

>>32954120
just the mag or the whole rifle

>>32954112
oh fuck, my nugget has this. I didn't think anything of it. Where do you guys learn about this stamping?

>>32954149
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinImport.htm
this should do

>>32954135
oh. whole rifle.

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>>32954210
How much are you askin?

>>32954210
What type of rifle/how much?

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>>32937115
Just recently picked one up for 350, see if you can break it down and check the stock for cracks some poo in the loo used mine to launch grenades without the stiffiners and its harder to find wood than it used to be

>>32954305
Springfield Sporters has some old DP stock sets

>>32954336
I was able to to find nos stock,forearm and rear hand guard but no front handgaurd

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has this turned into an enfield thread?

>>32954285
>>32954291
Lithgow Lee Enfield. Made in 1917. Still chambered in .303 but I'm told it was probably refurbished in the 30s or 40s. It's his birthday some time this year, we've just been having cake every day so we don't miss it. I've gained 15 pounds.
>>32954120
>>32954109
>>32954053

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>>32954449
>>32954291
>>32954285
Oh, sorry. And we are in Massachusetts, land of dead dreams and bastardized freedoms.

>>32954459
if you're willing to give him a chance at freedom again I might be willing to give him a home in Kentucky, provided you were willing to ship/sell for the right price.

>>32954459
Are you willing to ship, or would you prefer in person

>>32954524
>>32954477
I can probably ship it from my local FFL to your FFL. Probably looking to sell for $450

>>32954640
mind posting a pic of the bore/rifling?

>>32954673
I tried to get a picture of the bore but only have my phone and it was focusing on the barrel or chamber every time. Couldn't catch the actual bore. if you have any tips let me know because it actually has a very good bore. It's shiny and the grooves are good.

>>32945479
>Original caliber or not?
Yes, ad says it's in 7.5 French

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My Century built FN49 just go to here like 20 minutes ago. I slapped a Ruskie AK sling on it and I'm gonna go put some rounds through it after I eat breakfast.

>>32954751
Tip: get a real camera

>>32942000
http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/

>>32938638
newfag here, does the Kar 98 take 5.56? Do enfields? Do they take any modern ammo?

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>>32957207
>newfag here, does the Kar 98 take 5.56?
No.
>Do enfields?
No.
>Do they take any modern ammo?
Yes, some Mauser models like Israeli-rebuilt Kar.98k, Chilean M1912/61, Brazilian MosqueFAL M968, Spanish FR8 short rifles and FN Police carbines are chambered for 7.62x51mm. Norwegian-rebuilt Kar.98k are chambered for .30-'06 Springfield, as well as post-WW2 FN M1930 Mausers made for Belgium and Luxembourg.

>>32957207


Only if it's been bubbad.

The last bolt action battle rifle made by a military was the ishapore 2a1 and it does take 7.62 nato (.308 Winchester)

Few of the Spanish arsenals rechambered to .308 also.


If you want a modern cartridge you're better off buying a modern rifle to go with it

>>32956931
>Built
Imported. Century imported it.

>>32957616
Well yeah. This is one of the ones that Century assembled and has a new production stock.

>>32958366
I wasn't aware they assembled any of those.

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>>32958590
IIRC, it went something like Egypt ordered complete rifles as well as many finished rifle kits to be assembled later, with the intent of starting production of the SAFN domestically. Instead they began making the Hakim, then the Rasheed, then the AK and the SAFN parts were more or less forgotten, until Century bought them up along with the surplus rifles, used the parts to repair already finished rifles and used what was left to build complete rifles from NOS parts. Century-built rifles have serial numbers in Western Arabic numerals that begin with a "D" letter prefix, and the receiver rings have the eagle crest rather than a crown. The Century-made stocks are distinctive because they are beech with a dark walnut stain and have no cut for a unit marking disc, and often have a plastic buttplate.

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>>32958712
Well that is interesting, I had no idea.

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Picked up a MAS 49/56 today

>>32958935
What he said >>32958712

So while mine has little collector value, it's a very nice looking rifle and in amazing shape, so I'm happy with it. The guy I bought it from said he never fired it, I'm going to ask him how long he owned it.

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>>32941095
MOAR

Here's my S/27 1936

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>>32959274

>>32957207
>>32957309
Are there even any milsurp guns rechambered in 5.56?

>>32959339
No

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>>32959339
Not unless we kill the NFA.>>32959255
That's some nice script on that rail.

>>32959540
you got some purdy script too, boy