Why are cowboy guns so fucking awesome?

>>32911007
I can't speak for everyone, But is the feel. Like some people like manuals, cowboy guns are like the manual of guns.

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>>32911022
Nailed it.

>>32911007
Cowboy guns thread?
Here's mine.

Cowboys

>>32911007
I dunno, but I have a thing for coachguns.

>>32911007
I can not decide between a Richard-masons or a standard 1873. Do cartridge conversions last a long time? Amusing I use trail boss.

>>32911062
>Amusing
I mean assuming.

>>32911064
>>32911062
Unless you get a Remington 1858 cartridge conversion it just will not last as long as an SAA or purpose built cartridge gun.
Just don't do any of that cowboy action shooting non sense like fanning the hammer and a cartridge conversion should last plenty long enough to get your money's worth.
I don't know for sure if down loading your 45 Colt loads will reduce wear as much as some people say but it certainly wouldn't hurt.
Never put +p in it.
Have fun.

>>32911080
Thats why I mention trail boss, I can really down load them. While making double charges impossible. It would most like be 38 spl in a 1851/1861/open-top. Also what barrel length? I literally can not decide. I know that shorter will be handier. But longer would be more accurate (sight radius).

>>32911089
Honestly just get what barrel length appeals to you the most.
The sights on the open top colts generally suck ass(the rear sight on them is usually a notch cut in the hammer), so it really doesn't matter about sight radius anyway.

>>32911089
>>32911106
I will add that if it was me looking for a 38 I would get a 1851 Navy with the full length barrel (7 inch I think).
Just for that Wild Bill Hickok feel.

Wish somone made a coach gun with ejectors rather than extractors. Would make a great light weight, bitch basic simple knock about scattergat

>>32911106
Yeah I so indecisive about the barrels. Like gun to the head I'm dead. Though thats because I gotta get at least two. So I really wanna be banditio it would be short. But then I can get more performance for the same price. Alternately I might get a 1873 in 44 mag.

>>32911111
I don't have proof but he would probably use shorter barrels. Long barrels are for cattle drives and the like.

>>32911112
>Wish somone made a coach gun with ejectors rather than extractors. Would make a great light weight, bitch basic simple knock about scattergat

Extractors would make them pointless for sass/cas shooting. It would be against the rules. Which is the main draw for coach guns.

>>32911130
I know, but I just shot hogs with mine. Ended up going with a pump for the occasional triple.

>>32911144
Side note, seen inrange's video about pistol grip shotguns? Doubles have excellent follow up shot potential. It failed on third target(duh). I wish they would have used a chippa triple.

45-70 is for pussies, 45 colt is dumb as hell, double barreled shotguns are practically useless and single action revolvers are just dumb

Troll thread

>>32911177
>45-70 is for pussies
What? It gets pretty strong out of strong single shot guns.

>>32911007
Evolution in action. Perhaps because they were being used all the time, the shit ones eventually got removed from the gun pool, with the best becoming pravelent through constant use and refinement. Meanwhile in other part of the world, firearms were not used as much, made for armies on a budget, or just used as a status symbols to be hung on a castle wall or displayed in a case, irrespective if they were a good, useful, easy to use and maintain design or not.

>>32911182

Useless against other hunting rounds and loads.

They're an iconic tribute to one of the manliest and noteworthy periods of American history that didn't actually exist.

>>32911177
I'm guessing the onky guns you own are 5.56 AR'S and glocks?

>>32911257

As a non american, elaborate? I though even though wild west movies were slightly exaggerated that was an actual period of history with bounty hunters and outlaws tracing over the west towards the ocean?

>>32911266

>onky

>>32911257
Frontier life did in fact exist.
>>32911270
Wild west movies romanticizes that time period. Such as in deadwood Wild Bill is shown as a melancholic tragic hero. Rather than a tall tale telling shit head.

>>32911163
yeah but I'm gonna buy a shockwave anyway, cuz it'll be a fine tool for camping and hiking around.

>>32911270
It was indeed a period of time, but nowhere near what the common perception of it is.

>>32911316
Just hold it tight, other wise you might lose teeth or break your nose. Which in a emergency situation will be hard.

>>32911270
>As a non american, elaborate? I though even though wild west movies were slightly exaggerated that was an actual period of history with bounty hunters and outlaws tracing over the west towards the ocean?

The American Old West was a "lawless" period in certain ways as the reach of government couldn't effectively control most people effectively and a lot of (read: most) disputes were handled privately, including security as official government law enforcement was often lackluster. The reality that existed in the Old West was basically how a right wing libertarian would describe a heavily decentralized frontier market society, whereas "Wild West" movies are a leftist's imagination of what that kind of society had to be like (i.e. constant gunfights and bloodshed, bank robberies every other day, horrendous exploitation by some murderous villain who owns 100% of the town, no one follows any rules, etc.)

>>32911007
I find cowboy guns awesome because it was a time when guns were really becoming what they are today. The innovation that existed during that time when it came to firearms was pretty astounding and neat to learn about. Some very unique ideas were spawned in the world of guns that we still use today, or were sadly forgotten.

Also, something I appreciate about cowboy guns is that they either have really unique, or really aesthetically beautiful looks to them. And as >>32911022 mentioned, the feel of cowboy guns and how you manually had to work many of their actions is just a cool feeling that brings you back to a simpler time in gun history.

Cowboy guns are fucking awesome OP.

Anyone here have any experience with Krist conversions for Walkers? I want to get one to shoot .45 bpm

>>32911022
That too. Manual transmissions, cowboy guns (as well as pump action guns and double action revolvers), and sailboats are all awesome because there's a direct linkage from your brain to your muscles to your limbs to the work being done. Their more modern alternatives are technically "better", but the more manual versions are more fun for recreational use.

>>32911270

It was a libertarian's wet dream.

>>32911007

What's a good first lever gun?

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Here's what I got, I.ve been into wild west guns since I was little. As a college student tho I can't afford a whole lot of shit yet.

>>32913016
my revolver on the left isn't even real, but I got pretty good at twirling with it.

>>32913031

>my revolver on the left isn't even real

So it's CA approved then, right?

>>32911007
Because of this:

https://youtu.be/kEES3pZGSTY

>>32911270
There was an actual period with outlaws and bounty hunters.

It lasted about 80 years and saw only about a dozen notable outlaws though. The media GREATLY overexaggerates it. For example, a gun battle of the size of the shootout at the O.K. Corral was *so* ridiculously rare it made international media. And only 3 people died in it and it lasted a massive 30 seconds.

The West was extremely, extremely sparsely populated, and the people that were there were quite isolated from the rest of society. You either played by the rules and got along with everyone for the mutual benefit of the community (since the community was all you had), or you broke the rules and died young to either being banished and starving to death or getting fucking lynched.

>>32913016
spent too much time in the mojave

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>>32911007
grip preferences aside, hands-down one of the best looking guns ever

>>32913295
Barrel's too short. Revolvers, especially single action revolvers, look best and are most usable with a 7-8" barrel.

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>>32913318

doesn't have to be this one specifically, but the SAA/Peacemaker in general

the curves are cash

>>32913363
Remington 1875/1888/1890 and the Smith model 3 both look better imo.

Bisley SAA's look better than the original as well.

99% of SAA's came with the 5" barrel.

Can anyone comment on the quality of the pietta 1873? I was looking at the case color hardened one. Or should I just get a Uberti?

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>>32913436
forgot pic.

>>32913444
Pietta>Uberti on durability. Regardless of who made it, case coloring will fade in a couple years.

>>32913585
I did not know it faded away. Will it look bad?

>>32913105
Yup, not guns but nooses and barbed wire are what settled the west. And that second one, along with rail access, killed the range cowboy.

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>>32913446
damn, i really want an engraved nickel handgun

pic related is obviously not a cowboy gun, but something about engraved nickel just reminds me of old-timey monarchs/nobles with custom swag

>>32913745
fuck me, this one might be stainless, but you know what i mean

>>32913731
Kinda depends. No 2 sets of case colors fades the same but there's a general pattern to how it goes (reds and yellows fade out first, blues and purples last). You will start to lose the reds and yellows in a year or two but the blues will persist for decades. I have some pre-1898 Winchesters that still have some visible case coloring but a lot that it's completely gone from.

When it fades out completely you're left with a dull blue/brown patina, I think it looks good.

UV light is what causes it to fade.

>>32913780
Thanks for the heads up. I don't think I'll mind that. I'm thinking of finally picking me up a saa clone and a my lgs has a Pietta 1873 for $375.

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i LOVE the a e s t h e t i c of cowboy guns.

I want some Henry's or Marlins in .22LR, .357/.38 spl, and maybe a 30-30 unless 30-30 is still like $1 a round.

Still though, a .22LR lever gun is so god damn much fun. Haven't shot a .38 or .357 one though, I hear they're accurate and reach out pretty far for a pistol round.

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Cowboy guns, you say?

>>32911007
They bring back romantic times of cowboys and the purity of living unfettered by civilization and human constraints, living out under the stars, wandering untamed lands, delivering desperado justice, and surviving off the land.

That, and they look awesome.

>>32913845
.357 from a levergun is a viable deer/hog round out to around 150 yards. It retains enough energy out to 200 yards for ethical kills, but drops enough you'll have a hard time figuring out holdover for anything more than shooting steel. .38spl+P is good to about 100, again due to drop more than energy.

.44mag lever guns are widely used along the east coast for black bears.

>Henry is making a .327FedMag levergun in 2017
Hyped. I've always wanted a Single Seven with the 8" barrel paired with a levergun in it, neat as shit little round that has stupidly high caliber compatibility (.372fed, .32 H&Rmag, .32S&W Long, .32S&W Short, and .32 ACP, though the .32 smith short and .32acp probably won't feed in a levergun). Also an okay deer round, ballistically similar to .30 carbine and hotter than .32-20.

>>32911007
because they are. I still need to complete my set with a shotgun and lever gun in 45 Colt to go with my short barrel New Vaquero.

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Semi-related, anyone ever been to the Winchester Mystery House? It has a neat little gun museum attached. The wife was kinda crazy and continually added onto the house (nonstop construction) to house the souls of all the people killed by the weapons her husband made.

I own a Marlin 336A ( Pre-remshit) in 30-30 Its one of my favorite guns.

Once i restore my lee enfield beater; thinking of getting a BLR in .308 for my new huntin rifle.

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>>32913931
Been there a couple of times. Wacky bitch for sure. Wouldn't let Teddy Roosevelt come in the front door.

Uncle has a Henry golden boy in .17HMR. Uses it for squirrels. Aunt calls it "cute" and it pisses him off xD

>>32911007
Because they were made in an era when men were men and guns were guns. There were no misconceptions about what a weapon was for in those days.

Does the Marlin 336 count as a cowboy gun?

It's essentially the perfected lever action rifle.

>>32913031
A Denix?

>>32914145
Shit are those brass shells?

>>32911348
And weren't most the plots for the more modern spaghetti westerns stolen from Nip samurai movies?

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>>32917262
Yep. I load em with BP.

maybe it's cause i''ve only run highbrass buck through it for a while, or the cheap target loads i had before, but my chinese coach is really fucking rough to break open after firing, with the buck i have to break it over my knee to open.

i think i need to hone the chambers out a bit, maybe take a bit of material off the extractor. thoughts?

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I've got a few 'cowboy guns' as well. I still intend to add a Schofield eventually.

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>>32919043
I picked up this 1847 Walker a few years after that last photo was taken. It's a heck of a lot of fun to shoot.