Senior ATF official proposes loosening gun regulations

>>32903444
he also talked about deregulating suppressors

>>32903444
does this mean we could get all the south korean garands and m1 carbines and shit?

File: tmp_13744-Resized952016040795081922-272613307.jpg (329KB, 1600x1200px) Image search: [Google]

329KB, 1600x1200px

Make America Great Again

File: MinaShitposting(86).jpg (45KB, 379x416px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 379x416px

>>32903444
>examining a possible end to the ban on importing assault weapons into the United States.
>This means Hk91, G36's, possibly SVT's and SVD's. Type 97's
Holy shit my dick is beyond diamonds

>>32902922

File: 1449446754195.png (233KB, 400x400px) Image search: [Google]

233KB, 400x400px

>>32903502
P L E A S E LET IT HAPPEN

>>32903444
>From an actual ATF official
I...wha...?

No. No they can't be serious. This is some sort of trick. It has to be. This is the same agency that said shoelaces=machine guns not 10 years ago.

File: 1484329226532.jpg (61KB, 362x178px) Image search: [Google]

61KB, 362x178px

>>32903523
Behold the magic of a gun friendly government!

VSS soon Stalker!

>>32903502
>possibly SVT's and SVD's
When will you fucking morons learn that nothing we do will get us SVDs or SVTs and that you don't use apostrophes to pluralize unless it's a single letter?

>>32903465
Yes. 50,000+ M1 Garands, Carbines, and 1911's

>>32903586
>"One unusual modern use of the apostrophe is in plural acronyms, like “ICBM's” “NGO's” and “CD's”.
https://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/acronyms.html

>>32903586
I was quoting the OP you dingus, besides I'm happier about the potential for Civvie G36s as well as Type 97s(If they lift the Norinco ban)

>>32903608
The Norinco thing was an EO by Clinton, unlike the 1989 assault weapons import ban which was an ATF thing like the 7N6 thing (they reinterpreted what sporting meant under the GCA). So, the Norinco thing is never going away. HK293s might show up, though.

>>32903586
Seconding this guy. Part of the restrictions on the SVD is because Russia isn't exporting them to the US, not just because the US isn't importing them

You're all fucking idiots, he's just trying to save himself from getting drained
This will never happen, it's the fucking ATF
Do all of you have amnesia? No you're probably just delusional

>>32903523
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3454608/Read-the-white-paper-on-firearms-regulations.pdf

>>32903444
This comming after someone introduced a HF or SF that would strip the ATF's firearm regulation power and give it to the FBI. 2nd in command see the writing on the walls and wants to drum up support against that by throwing a bone at the firearms community after screwing us for years without lube...

>>32903751
It's a ruse. That's the only explanation. I don't know who they're trying to snooker, but this is not an honest letter.

File: VZM.IMG_20170116_142509.jpg (99KB, 679x1250px) Image search: [Google]

99KB, 679x1250px

>>32903444
Trips

Funny when DJT threatens to shut down BATF and consolidate it to other agencies that they finally decide to "maybe" "think" about relaxing gun regs.

Fuck the BATF they need to be shut the fuck down.

File: 1480671137395.jpg (60KB, 761x563px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 761x563px

>>32903523
wtf I love the atf now? No this can't be real... can it? is... is this what winning is?

>>32903672
>>32904013
This right here FBATF

>>32903465
That was an executive order, not ATF buttfuckery. All that's needed for it to become null is for Trump to undo it.

>>32903444
Finally some common sense recognition of the need for them to throttle back on their infringement on the constitution.
Now all we need is the DEA to end their fucking war on drugs bullshit.
Then we can put an end to the Federal Reserve Bank cartel, and the IRS.
Then we might almost have our country back

>>32904013
Kwik Trip is amazing

File: 1473661447363.jpg (441KB, 1919x1279px) Image search: [Google]

441KB, 1919x1279px

>>32904211
dubs don't lie

>>32903523
fuck your rule's I'll do what I want.

File: thumbs up.gif (2MB, 400x214px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 400x214px

I was about to get autismal over you using the word loosening but then I realized you actually meant loosening and not losing.
So good job. Like one of the four times I've seen someone use loose correctly on this god forsaken website.

>>32903444
As a collector, fuck this. I have over $13k invested in my safe, that shit CANNOT be depreciated. I plan on calling my congressman/NRA and shutting this shit down.

>>32903982
This makes me sad. I think it says a lot that firearms are managed by the same bureau that manages tobacco and alcohol.

>>32904006
Yeah I feel like they're up to something.

>>32904086
Good post.

>>32903648
>EO
>Never going away

That's not how they work. Although trump lifting a restriction on china is highly unlikely.

>>32904931
I hope this is a joke.
But just in case you're not joking, I'll call you a traitorous bastard anyways.
TRAITEROUS BASTARD!

>>32904931
Fuck off giganigger. All markets have risks.

>>32904931

People like you are the reason automatics are still banned.

Do not bank your retirement on right restrictions creating an inflated market, you dumbass.

File: serveimage (4).jpg (40KB, 314x314px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 314x314px

>>32904931
Trololololololol

>>32904931
no one cares about you
>iwantmoregunzpleez

>>32903523
Achully the shoe lace ruling was from '04

t. nerd

>>32904931
Oh fuck you, you elitist piece of garbage. Arms should be available to everyone, not just people like you.

>>32904971
>>32904985
>>32905003
>>32905027

Go stick your dick in your nuggets poorfucks. Grown men with actual money to spend will decide these things.

File: 1f2.jpg (15KB, 320x283px) Image search: [Google]

15KB, 320x283px

Oh god, come on gov't don't let us down. At least not this one time.

File: Untitled.png (116KB, 998x362px) Image search: [Google]

116KB, 998x362px

>>32903648
>>32903608
China studies guy here, NORINCO ban is not going to be lifted in this lifetime.

It is a state-owned chicom company that supplies, even if tangentially, terrorists and insurgents with mortars and light arms used to kill American troops. There was an NGIC study about this. A very big chunk of IED materiel seized is surplus Chinese stuff they dumped into the middle east because they knew it would be used to kill Americans. They also routinely sell weapons systems to countries that state department heavily discourages arms sales to.

Oblique charity given to direct enemies in a shooting war and direct sales to our strategic enemies aside, they are also a hugely profitable arms production and key national security wing of a government we are (somewhat) openly hostile to.

>>32903444
Wtf I love the ATF now

>>32904931
Fuck you.

>>32904931
excellent bait.

>>32905065
I have every single penny I saved from 23 years in the Army in firearms, some full fun
I know I'm fucked out of all that money (Over 80k) in depreciation

But you know what? I don't care, you commie fuck. I'd rather bite the bullet so everyone can into full fun.

>>32904931
>>32905065
Fuck off elitist fags, I'm sorry you invested in guns that were kept artificially inflated by unconstitutional legislation, but the bubble is soon to come to an end.

>>32905119
Komrade, people like you deserve to get some of their money back.

However traitorous fucks like >>32905065 don't.

File: cum.gif (35KB, 448x272px) Image search: [Google]

35KB, 448x272px

If this happens
>mfw

>>32905133
Both of them made an investment that may or may not work out. Just like anyone else who maybe bought SUNE(Q lol) or some other meme stock and lost their shirt, it's no one's responsibility to recoup that loss.

It sure as hell isn't the government's job to fix their problem by fucking over other people because of their bad decision.

>>32905157
Never said it HAD to be done given back.
Just that he was at least deserving of some of his money back.

File: 2017-02-06 17.52.01.jpg (990KB, 1733x1153px) Image search: [Google]

990KB, 1733x1153px

>>32905065
Your bait is pretty good, but on that note I've got one of 200 or so Swiss 552s that are civilian transferrable, and mine has a tax stamp and a SAN factory 552 to 553 conversion.

If this goes through will it devalue this one (of many) pieces of my collection? Yes, do I care....fuck no! I want an SG 550, 551, or an Stgw 57. The only thing that could suck about this is having to get another safe.

7/10 got me to reply.

>>32905195
TImestamp perhaps?

Come on how many /machinegunowners/ there are who are kike enough to oppose this?
How it is possible that they outweight those who want full autos?

File: SUNEQ.png (63KB, 654x470px) Image search: [Google]

63KB, 654x470px

>>32905186
>deserve

hey, that's a whole can of worms best not opened up.

In the meantime, enjoy this delicious ~99.9999% plunge in share value:

>>32905229
I mean the it in the same way I tell a friend "if I had a cookie I'd give you one for that" if they make a good joke or do something really cool.

>>32903598

Oh boy

>>32905195
>If this goes through will it devalue this one (of many) pieces of my collection? Yes, do I care....fuck no!
you are the outlier in that shitpot, friendo.... As for Tommy "Texas" Montana on his 5million acre holsteen ranch, he is gonna fight tooth n nail for it to go the other way... same for the Dems that use post-MG sales as ways to launder their fundraiser money. Just go look at new MG registers & transfers to private parties since '86. It should be 0, yet.....

Cool piece, btw. Show us its internals

>MFW I don't know whether to sell my SKSes while they're $400 apiece

If this goes through, they'll bottom out. If it doesn't they'll keep on climbing

>>32905195
This doesn't affect machine gun ownership for private citizens. So I don't think prices will depreciate for those unless we see the '86 ban removed.

If they allow for newly imported semi-autos (which the reevaluation of the "sporting-purposes" interpretation could do), we would probably see imports from the Euro markets and prices for those might go down. Not sure how common the Sig 500s are on the non-American market, but we might see them.

File: tmp_13062-2017-02-06 18.07.08-593471426.jpg (976KB, 1556x874px) Image search: [Google]

976KB, 1556x874px

>>32905222
Just for (you)

>>32905195
HNNNGGGG

Nice gun. You're a morally upstanding gentleman.

>>32904931
10/10 bait.

>>32905338
Bruh....thanks.
Machine gun mike? is this you?

>>32905338
Cool airsoft gun.

File: IMG_1320.jpg (12KB, 160x160px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 160x160px

>>32905391
>he doesnt recognize the feed lips of the mag coming out of the magwell
>He has doesnt know what actual airsoft mags look like

>>32903460
Use a can, fag.

File: tmp_13062-2017-02-06 18.18.27966605537.jpg (1MB, 1885x1060px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1885x1060px

>>32905275
Maybe it's because I'm not rich. My wife and I are solidly middle class, but gun collecting and shooting is something I've been into since I was a kid. So I've always seen it as a hobby for fun, and I don't believe in safe queens.

Here's a quick comparison of the 552 vs 553 bolt carrier. I don't have time to completely take the conversion gas system apart. 552 has a piston like an ak and the 552 uses a captured piston in the gas tube.

>>32905441
yeah, here is verbatim what is stated in the letter:

"yo, dem gunz is loud as shit. Nigga can't get no rest with all dat riggin' in they ears. Shit, muzzle that bitch."

>>32903523
Because the shoelace actually does turn it into a machine gun.

Deciphering legal jargon is difficult if you're stupid. If the device makes the weapon shoot more than one round per trigger pull = machine gun. The same logic can also work in your favor, because a device that's not designed as a stock but an "arm brace" does not equal a stock.

I think the ATF is overly demonized. Their main focus isn't on the common American gun owner, it's on gang/cartel members and domestic terrorists. Their job is to enforce laws made by the legislature, so it's the legislature that needs to be questioned when it comes to these laws. It's awesome when a law enforcement agency turns out to be on your side and doesn't want to enforce the stupid shit the legislature/judiciary wants them to, we'll see where it goes.

>>32905358
Nope just an anon doing some before dinner shitposting.

>>32903574
i-it just doesn't feel real. we finally have a president with a dick... it's been a long 8 years anons...

File: 1470106171831.jpg (92KB, 1080x810px) Image search: [Google]

92KB, 1080x810px

>>32904931
pls go Alex

>>32905504
i like you.

>>32905338
>continue, take it off nice n slow.....
so whats its like 3 months in the future? Any stock investments I should know about?

>>32905487
Can you give me the mega millions numbers for next week's drawing?

>>32905487
>literally a swissmade AKfo-seben
its like they gobbled up design plans from all over the world, and then turned it into that bastard. I am a bit disappoint...
Thanks for the pics tho

>>32905598
>>32905615
I have no idea why I put may down instead of February, but invest in pork bellys, there a coming bacon crisis.

>>32905502
>I think the ATF is overly demonized.
That's because you weren't around pre-FOPA. The ATF was the god damned devil who would seize inventory at will, write violations for nonexistent policies, and overtly troll gun shows looking for people to lock up.
They still do most of this today, but with a little more tact.

>>32905089
> items used to kill high school dropout welfare morons fighting for israel

why the fuck should i care?

>>32905537
Aye the cheeky runt in your attached photograph.

>>32905502
>t. dog euthanization engineer

>>32905133
if the govt props up housing prices, you can be sure as shit they will prop up our collection prices. sorry, go find something else to play with.

>>32904931
>13K

Thats all?

>>32905338
i know the guy that builds stg57s they run around a couple grand for one

>can become a FFL and own machines guns

Me likey.

File: 1409536790697.jpg (58KB, 393x500px) Image search: [Google]

58KB, 393x500px

>>32905502

I've finally found him.

Behold, the biggest faggot on this board.

File: 1482211797879m.jpg (64KB, 1024x683px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 1024x683px

>>32905711
>notevenbismuth.jpg
you will understand a year or three after you finally lose your virginity.

>>32905937
>dat upskirt doe...

File: 1468197126776.gif (3MB, 290x189px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 290x189px

>>32905711
spot the MEPS reject

showing up late and still drunk from the night before was probably a mistake, anon, but you were too good for them anyway, am I right?

>>32906194
I don't need to get screamed at by a retard in a uniform to learn how to use modern weaponry.

Unless they finally decide to let people test out of boot camp based on maybe multi-weapon proficiency tests and tactical quizzes, the military can fuck right off as a career.

File: minority-deport_o_6228683.jpg (139KB, 673x960px) Image search: [Google]

139KB, 673x960px

>buy supressors yesterday
>everyone is like "but what about HPA"
>hpa passes
>supressor demand explodes like the fire of 100 suns
>initial backlog years long to get a supressor
>mine are already in nfa jail

File: 1483158388009.jpg (23KB, 500x342px) Image search: [Google]

23KB, 500x342px

>>32906296
>Unless they finally decide to let people test out of boot camp based on maybe multi-weapon proficiency tests and tactical quizzes, the military can fuck right off as a career.
>tactical quizzes

I imagined a teacher tactically rolling into class with a plate carrier and then handing out a math quiz to disappointed 8 year olds.

>>32905410
Ignore him, one day he'll have enough people screaming at his head up his own ass long enough to realise his mistake.

>>32904074
M1 carbines is ATF buttfuckery because they take "standard" magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. It's the same reason Century got raided in 2003 for importing SAR-1s.

>>32905089
>that supplies, even if tangentially, terrorists and insurgents with mortars and light arms used to kill American troops
So? Saudi Arabia does the same shit and look at how much military aid and money we give them.

>>32903477
>>32904027

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OcldMG932o

>>32904969
I know how EOs work. You really think that any president is going to support importing weapons from the China boogeyman?

>>32905711
No one did care. The actual reason Norinco got banned was because it was attempting to sell weapons including RPG-7s to street gangs in California. I don't remember the Leland Yee thing that clearly, but I think he was also doing business with Norinco.

>>32907320
Not sure if they ever connected it to Yee, but he was doing arms smuggling through the Philippines, which isn't to say they weren't chinese arms to begin with.

>>32906988
we have "shared interests" with Saudi, the kind that let them get away with doing obnoxious shit.

China is a regional adversary and it is in both of our core interests to antagonize each other as much as possible.

>>32906384
If I become a teacher, I'm doing this.

>>32905785
he probably thinks the guns are worth as much or more than he bought them for

>>32905707
Source? I'm curious

>>32903672
They're all going at hang anyway, anon.

File: 1481436970729.png (290KB, 560x321px) Image search: [Google]

290KB, 560x321px

>>32903648

No - executive orders are not irreversible. Trump could lift the PRC import ban on a whim. However knowing Trump's stance on "Chyna" that's not going to happen.

I'm sick of this pussy footing around wrist stabilizers. The barrel length laws need to go.

>>32904931
Get fucked fudd.

>>32903444
>possibly SVT's and SVD's

If this happens I will be bankrupt, but I will own a crate of them.

>>32909399
PRC ban, from a national security standpoint, is a good thing.

File: 1482985191827.jpg (12KB, 352x352px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 352x352px

>>32909640

Are you retarded? China produces 3/4ths of the bullshit in Wal-Mart and you're afraid that them selling some mediocre AR-15 and AKM clones poses a national security risk? How about the dozens of shotgun and handgun manufacturers in Turkey - a country openly supporting Islamic terrorism? Do you drive a Nissan Leaf - if not you better not look up what Saudi Arabia's doing with your money.

>>32904931

>T. Alex C

>>32909922
I agree with everything you say, but given what NORINCO does, I believe it's in our best interest to deny them as much funding as possible.

I never said "national security risk" -- I said it was in our interests to deny the state arms manufacturer of the PRC any more funding than they're already getting.

And at the risk of sounding condescending, I probably know a little bit more about NORINCO and China than you do.

>>32907320
IIRC it was because they had sold some sort of missile guidance systems to Iran, there was a prior Clinton era ban the covered most of their "assault weapon" esque imports, but they could still import sporting rifles, it took the Bush administration to fully cut off all imports.

>>32909399
>No - executive orders are not irreversible.
Literally no one said that. I said it's never going away because
- only gun collectors really care
- China is the American government's boogeyman now that the Cold War is over

>>32903477

I thought the whole god-emperor thing was a joke, but now...

>>32906296

Right. Because that still ensures that you have discipline, customs and courtesies, understand military documentation, teamwork and coordination and the basic technical knowledge behind basic warrior skills... right?

Basic, as much bullshit as it is, is about a lot more than wedge formations and guns.

I can still set up a SINCGARS in less than a minute and stabilize tension pneumothorax in far less.

Call me when you graduate high school, we'll see about maybe getting your PT failure head-ass into a good MOS.

>>32903648
Keep in mind that even if the ATF goes back to the pre-1989 definition of 'sporting purpose' Bush 41 banned 45 specific guns from importation, so they won't be able to be imported unless Bush's EO is thrown out

>>32904931
Why did you invest in an item that can change quantities, have regulation change, or something few people can afford and want to get? Bretty dumb. Should have invested in stock or property famalam.

We might get HK shit if this happens, but...
>SVDs or SVTs
No. This will not happen. Russia won't do it.
>Type 97s
This will not happen either. We can't get Norincos for a whole slew of other reasons unrelated to "assault weapon" import bans.

>>32914452
This

Russia cannot import any weapons not listed on the VRA, and Chinese firearms and ammunition with the exception of Shotguns are completely banned.

>>32904931
I hope you lose every one of them in a fire.

Not the wink wink nudge nudge, no mr atf agent I don't know what happened

But like an actual, your house burns the fuck down fire.

>>32914388
I know, but since it's by name someone it could probably be circumvented. Especially if the ATF is playing ball for some reason.

>>32903523
This a trap to get us to all gather our dogs in one place for a meeting to broker peace.

>>32905065
>Actual money
>$13k invested
lol and we're the poorfags.

But you're just being ironic because you think it's funny, so good luck with your """"investments""""

Until it happens, they're still lying scum. All of them, from the president down to the mailmen.

>>32904931
Wrong color on the roulette wheel fucker