Recommend me a quality, functional longsword that doesn't

Looks like kitchen steel. Actual combat swords cost real money. Save a couple grand and buy a nice gun.

>>32901102
>How do I get quality without paying for it

Same way you do with anything, anon.

You don't.

>>32901120
500 bucks or less would be nice.

So fix the grip and pommel. It's a toy, you can modify toys. It's not some OG katana.

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>>32901102
serves you right for buying shit without doing research first. you have access to the internet mong!

fixes:

take off the wood, clean off the tang and epoxy the wood back into place. use string wrapping to keep the grip halves together until the epoxy hardens. you can get a real sword here:

http://szymonchlebowski.pl/en_US/

Check him, Szymon Chlebowski, out on FB where he has more pics of the stuff he offers.

>>32901143
Is this that polish guy I see get shilled hard every sword thread?

>>32901102

Cold Steel Italian Long Sword?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqoCYuS5jKg

>>32901135
Not gonna get a whole lot of sword for that price. Windlass and cold steel are pretty much it.

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>>32901157
yes. I shill for him. he makes great combat ready swords for 200€. it's less than you pay for the made in India Windlass Steelcrafts shit. Why not support a polish craftsman who fences himself and makes proper swords instead of Indian/Chinese sweat shops who'll supply you with barely a wallhanger?

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>>32901166
I hear the Tinker Longsword is pretty good. They average 250 smackeroos.

>>32901166
wrong:
>>32901143
>>32901185
http://szymonchlebowski.pl/en_US/

Does this Polish smith have any proof that he isnt just taking orders and having them made in third world sweatshops too

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>>32901216
even if he did, I have 3 of his swords and they are outstanding. search for him on YT, he has a few destruction test videos.

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>>32901337
Might be fitting, as I've heard Szymon has considerable issues with getting things done on schedule. Can't recall if it was him or some other maker that also had some varying quality.

Then again, such is perhaps not too rare in this business. Last I heard Regenyei had some issues with the schedule too, due to being absolutely swamped in orders, and the apprentices he had brought in to help with that meant some of his feders ended up less than they could have been (customer service when such a lemon was found is to have been exemplary). Though complaints about Szymon here may have been with Regenyei as the baseline. Might be worth it to look for the HEMA thread in /asp/ as see if there's any discussion there of where the various feder makers stand at the moment (as this includes Szymon and Regenyei).

All said and done though, Regenyei would probably be an option here. Another option, especially for those not in the EU, would be a Hanwei Tinker line longsword, they have a reputation at least for being good value for the money if all you want is a basic sword with acceptable balance and resilience on a budget. Should be a clear step up form Windlass at least.

>>32901567
>Regenyei would probably be an option here.

Only for fencing swords and here he makes the best stuff you can buy atm. His sharps aren't as good because he uses flat steel "wafers" rolled/pounded into shape and starts usually with relatively thin steel at 5mm thickness. The Trnava line uses 8mm thick steel. Real diamond cross sectioned two hand swords have a spine thickness of 9mm going up to 11mm and have a massive distal taper down to the point. it's what makes them rigid, light at the tip and strong. A sharp sword with 5-6mm thickness will generally suck.

Is http://www.sword-buyers-guide.com/ to be trusted?

>>32901664
>Real diamond cross sectioned two hand swords

Though that wasn't the only cross-section in use.

>>32901845
Better than nothing, but probably not quite all you want. Lurk around mayarmoury.com for a while too, probably swordforum.com, maybe check some HEMA forums as a makers feders may suggest things about their sharps, and if you want non-European then see if there's any forum discussing swords from wherever you want them on top of that. See if any books get recommended along the way.

>>32901102
Nord-Crown makes some nice swords but they're pricy

>>32901102
Péter Regenyei or Pavel Moc
Won't be as pretty or well finished as an Albion, but they will function as swords very well and have nice balance, but expect tool marks

>functional
>longsword

>>32901216
Yes, there are loads of pics of him and his small workshop

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>>32901885
>Though that wasn't the only cross-section in use.

For HEMA relevant long swords it really is. Fullered swords are just two diamond cross sectioned swords next to each other. They are usually lesst thick at the now 2 spines present but compared to the stuff churned out by SLO makers they are still massive. 8-9mm is common.

Valiant Armoury

>>32901116
>Hey /k/ I want a sword
>lol buy a gun

>>32902196
This

The mid range VA are around 500, and they come with awesome scabbards

The low end Albions are around 800 to 1000, and the mid range ones cost about 1500, but they don't even include a scabbard

So, if you're just going to get one really good sword, and don't care about cosmetics, get an Albion. If you want to get multiple ok swords as a collector, then VA is the way to go

>>32901937
What

The lack of knowledge about melee fighting on /k/ is fucking hilarious

>>32902265
Albion's squire line is in the VA price point. If you just want an excellent sword I'd go with that over VA, but VA is simply the best package deal on the market, sonny's leatherworking skill is phenomenal

>>32902273
He's probably one of those
>swords were never used in combat they're all ceremonial and too expensive
Retards

Get a fucking tinker and be done with it faggot.

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>>32902273
Well, he's right.

>>32902306
>H/T are on backorder for everything
Fuck

>>32902316
A M A Z O N
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>>32902311
No he's not

You're just an idiot who can't comprehend that people have interests beyond firearms on /k/

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>get suggested best bang for buck real swords
>ignore

k in a nutshell.

>>32902337
yeah, I'm just being pedantic and talking specifically about self defense.

I actually love swords. I'm a HEMA fag and have both a regenyei and an ensifer feder, no sharps though.

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>>32902419
>I'm a HEMA fag
You are a fag alright....

>>32902427
:^(

>>32901102
Peter Johnsson
Anything made by
Peter Lyon
Christian Fletcher
Angus Trim
Albion Swords
Arms and Armor

>>32902518
Arms and armor swords aren't that amazing for their price, their production ones anyway. Their custom work is a different matter

If you can afford to go to that price point, just go Albion instead

>>32902518
The day I can afford a Petr Johnson sword, I'll be able to retire.

I know very little about swords but I want a couple. I was thinking about getting one from Hanwei are they any good?

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>>32903211
They're acceptable I think. And doesn't cost more than they have to. Should be a decent budget end choice. I'd point you to their Tinker line in particular if you want somethign European in style, should have entirely ok handling, in return for not even pretending when it comes to the looks.

>>32903211
Hanwei is hit or miss. Some are good some aren't

The tinker lines are the only ones I can tell you about, and they're excellent for the price, the blunt ones are a little soft for hema and don't like full on sparring

I'd save up another $200 or so and go with Valiant Armoury

>>32903399
>>32903408
I just want the Celtic sword because I think the blade being a dick is funny.

Later on once my car is fast enough I want some Albion swords like the sempach or the ringneck.

>>32901164
Notorious for having QC issues, especially a lose guard, and Cold Steel does not consider this an issue. I love Cold Steel Knives and Machetes, but their swords are worth avoiding.

>>32903128
he's a lot cheaper than you might expect. Assume 3K, and you'll maybe even have change left over.

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Oh boy excited for this one. I currently have a Valiant Armory Rhinlander on order my self (pic related)

Okay the way I see it you have 4 main options for budget longswords (sub $400):

1) For $250ish the Hanwei Tinker Pearce Longsword

2) For $300ish the Valiant Armoury Practical line Longsword... problem is they see to not be taking orders for it.

3) If you don't need complete historical accuracy, For $350ish, the Valiant Armoury Zombie Slayer.

4) If you want to take a gamble, you could get a Cold Steel Italian Long Sword... It's actually properly balanced, and a good steel for $200ish, BUT it very well may come with a rattly guard.

And finally avoid Dark Sword Armory, they are a bit fishy.

>>32904235
>that doesn't break the bank

>>32901187
Yes this

>>32903684
Get a medieval bollock dagger if you like dick

>>32904823
I agree with this.

Tfw no tfw

>>32904823
Not big enough.

>>32905115
I have this issue with my ballock dagger as well....

>>32905181
Get a Celtic anthropomorphic sword!

>>32904292
This is the best answer. Also look at the cheaper Albion's, they have something like a 6 month payment plan, really not too bad when you don't have to dump everything at once.

Also look at the Windlass Bosworth LS, if you like the aesthetic. I'm looking to pick it up.

>>32907524
Yeah I would have recommended something from the Albion Square Line, but the problem is:

-$550 and no sheath, so it's a bit out of most people's idea of "entry level", and a few hundred more (at lest) if they want a half way okay sheath.

-9ish month waiting time... Most people who don't already own a bunch of swords, don't want that wait... I'm struggling enough waiting the 3 months for my VA Longsword... 2 down 1 to go.

>>32901845
5~8 years ago SBG was really decent but last I checked the community pretty much died as economic hardships made the hobby more and more niche .

>>32904292
I thought about getting a rhinlander a while back, but not sure about paying 650 for sword made of 1060 steel

I've been told by some that while VAs have unbeatable package deals, their swords are more like $300 quality sword with a $200 quality scabbard, also the dyed leather color might rub off

So I finally decide to save up a get a huge ass albion, so the no-scabbard thing isn't even an issue cuz swords that big don't usually have them anyway

but please do let us know how it feels in hand once you received it

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>>32910378
I'll will definitely be posting a bunch of pictures on /k when I get it. Which should be with in a month or so.

Yeah VA's have blades that are about as good as higher end Hanwei. The blade alone is like what you will get from a $300 sword. But their hilts are almost Albion level, and the scabbard's are as you say like $200 or so. I've never heard about the color rubbing off, but I guess I'll find out.

I thought about just saving a bit longer and getting a $800-$1000 Albion, but that means I would at lest have to get a large rifle case (pic related) to safely store and transport it, and I did not feel like waiting 8-9 months.

>>32910378
(>>32912004 part 2)
I'm actually okay with a $300 is blade at that price (given all the other features). The big thing is that Sonny (VA owner) is the one who puts everything together, so these $300 blades are inspected by him, it's a much higher level of QC than you will find from Hanwei or any other brand selling chines forged blades. Normally the worst you will see is very slightly off centered fullers.

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>>32912018
>it's a much higher level of QC than you will find from Hanwei or any other brand selling chines forged blades

Yeah, with a Hanwei or so you should definitely take a good look at any sword you buy to make sure everything's in order, because every now and then it won't be.

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Hello /k/. This is my hanwei practical dao, I backpacked through two states with it and still camp with it regularly. I have dropped it down multiple cliffs, I have used it as a tent pole, I have chopped wood and cut hundreds of ropes with it. I have thrown it and missed and had it full force hit rocks. When I bought it I bought two intending it to essentially be a throw away sword, but the original is still fine, still sharp and barely rusty even though it was fully submerged in water. I think I spent 100 dollars on each.

I know its not a long sword but I just wanted to leave my opinion on a highly practical sword that is 10/10 when it comes to real life usage. (durability, lethality, cheap enough to consider using)

>>32912641
also sword is 3 feet long my hand is just the size of a ham

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>>32901102

obviously not a longsword, but as a historyfag i'm fond of cold steel's 1852 prussian saber. picked it up on amazon a few years ago for around $220

>>32912675
metal scabbard is sexy, how does it hold together?

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>>32912682

actually very well. the grip isn't that comfy, and i've been sort of careless with oiling and cleaning so there's a bit of discoloration on the handle and scabbard. the blade is a pipe-backed designed and the blade is double-side at the tip so you can thrust fairly well.

pic related isn't mine, but shows the pipe. also, you can fuck somebody up with that scabbard

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>>32912675
Have you been able to compare the balance to an original? Their 1976LC cut a lot of cornersthere.

>>32912981

i have not, but it seems fairly well balanced. i might pick up some tarn-x to see if i can get a bit of the tarnish off

>>32912641
Oh man I've been looking for one of those. Where'd you get it?

>>32913776
I'm not the guy with it, but if you live in the US, Kult Of Athena is about the best Retailer if they have what you are looking for or you can't buy it straight from the maker

>>32902196
This is a weapons board not a wall hanging board. Try >>>/toy/ or something.

>>32901135

try historicalmarket.com

although you may end up paying extra for shipping from yurp.

>>32914081
I'm curious, do you consider valiant armoury wall hangers? I don't know much about swords, but a lot of people here seem to like them.

And from what I see people calling wall hanger vs what a real sword is, Valiant seems to fit the real sword description

>>32914110
VA blades are 1060 HC steel properly hardened and tempered. All the forging on the blades are done in China and Sonny does all the hilt and scabbard work.

The blades themselves aren't the best on the market for their price, but that's because they're in the same price as Albion squire line stuff

They're sort of middle of the road, better than darksword by far (also less shady) but not as good as Albion's. But you get Sonny's excellent leatherwork