Cigarettes in time of war

No cause anyone in the field knows that cigs are a death wish and chew is where its really at.

>>32900949
>Finish Napalming a Village
>Get offered Cigarette
>"Get that shit away from me, smoking kills"
>Spits Dip

>>32900949
Yeah
Zigs give away your position

>not dipping and smoking.

They won't bring it back, sucks but they would only put one or two in there anyway

>>32900930
Filed strip those kotexes. Charlie could tell how many men in a patrol just from the litter.

>>32900960
>wants a glowing orange dot to reveal the precise location of his head to the enemy
>wants poor endurance in a high speed 4th generation war

>>32900930
>not taking his war vape to the field

>>32900997
>run out of smoke grenades
>use vape instead
Is tactical vaping a thing now?

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>The idea of just not smoking is utterly alien to these people

>>32900930
Every single hajji smokes. We'd trade or buy from them, or often they'd just give them to us. The cigarettes were shit tier, but beggars can't be choosers.

Or you just hit up a FOB real quick on convoys and stock up.

>>32901218
ITS EITHER SMOKING OR DRINKING
OR BOTH

>>32900949
when I was in, I preferred to take the risk of getting my melon popped. Chew is absolutely fucking vile

>when did that stop?

70s in most forces as part of the one day packs. Carried on in NATO for all staff (if requested) until the indoor smoking ban in facilities, which was about 2006 or so.

I heard smoking became extremely popular in WWI to drown out the smell of rotting bodies in no man's land that could not be recovered. Kinda gross desu.

>>32901072
>run out of vape juice
>use smoke grenades instead

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>>32901660
>leaving out dipping or chewing

Fuckin' Amateur

Redman Masterrace coming through

>>32900995
You're a neck beard and have never been to war. We all smoked. I also had people who smoked 2 packs a day and ran 6.5 minute miles.

ITT: people who think cigarettes inhibit ability to fight

>>32903042
Fucking this

Stop falling for the tobacco jew.

>>32903042

Not op
It's obvious that you're retarded.
Sad that an IED or a lucky bullet didn't take you out, world would of been better off with out your faggot ass that doesn't know shit.

>>32903042
>>32903070
Cigarettes are universally known for inhibiting respiratory capabilities. It seems in your cases, it inhibits mental capabilities too.

Just don't smoke you weakling

>>32900930
Fuck it we should supply them with speed, meth, and Oxies.

>>32903098
Please tell me where you got your medical degree webmd ninja. No fucking shit smoking is bad. If you stay in shape smoking doesn't turn you into a wheeze bag.

>>32903084
Very good rebuttal. Please tell me more about how smart you are. What's your favorite war movie that you seem to think is your life

>>32903134
Did your mother raise you on a diet of chinese paint or something? Every smoker who is in shape would be in better shape if they never smoked. That's just a simple fact.

>>32901218
You won't believe how many people smoke in the military.

>>32900930
Tobacco is useful for promoting alertness much like caffeine. I make a distinction between using tobacco as a tool, a social activity and addiction. As long as you aren't addicted it doesn't matter.

Smoking has the problem with light discipline and the smell and visible smoke. I know people who did tours at the Korean DMZ and they hid the cherry in the palm of their hand and blew smoke into a hole they poked into the snow.

Chew is nasty, e-cig is for people only slightly smarter than spice smokers, cigarettes are inferior to cigars and pipes.

Don't be an idiot who gets addicted.

>>32903155
But you aren't a fucking track star. We have 40-60lbs of gear on you get your job done and you smoke. You smoke on patrol, you smoke on post, you'd smoke on your PFT if you could.

>>32903042
This. What the fuck do you weeaboos think modern war is? You don't skulk in the shadows where a single point of light means the enemy will see you or run at the enemy with your arms thrown behind your back like a ninja. You dig holes, fill holes, and shoot in the vauge direction of brown people in broad daylight while waiting for support.

>>32903167
No, I know

I just can't believe how weak they are, standing there shivering in the middle of winter just to burn a stick of leaves into their lungs

>>32903180
You probably also believe you can just use your cargo pockets instead of a mag dump pouch

>>32903175
>But you aren't a fucking track star.
All the more reason for you to not smoke. Smoking decreases your physical capabilities no matter what level of fitness you are at.

>>32903190
PLEASE TELL ME MORE ABOUT YOUR MARATHON ACHIEVEMENT FROM COD4.

>>32903189
No, I use a dump pouch

What kind of stupid false equivalence is that?

>>32903190
habitual smokers have a larger lung capacity than nonsmokers.

>>32903180
Well I figured it's mostly for socializing and after a while you just can't stop.

>>32903203
That you're a boot who sits in his barracks room studying his general orders. The argument is smoking inhibits ability, you're crying about weakness. You sound like a massive pussy who cries at parties when their boyfriend is flirting with other boys

>>32903216
Lung capacity doesn't mean shit when your lungs suck at getting oxygen into your blood because they're clogged up with tar.

>>32903202
>smoking only matters if you run marathons
Not how it works bubba.

>>32903234
>after a while you just can't stop.
In other words, weakness.

>>32903238
Boy, anything to avoid facing the fact that being a slave to an addiction isn't a benefit, huh

>>32903042
Try doing that when you run out off cigs.

>>32903238
>The argument is smoking inhibits ability, you're crying about weakness

No, I'm calling you weak because you'll stand out being miserable near the smoking shelter because you're a drug addict.

>>32903256
Whatever floats your boat. People are weak, nothing new

>>32903234
>after a while you just can't stop.

They've kinda had a word for this for a while, begins with "a"

>>32903261
I quit smoking after I got out of the marines? So where is this going? That you need to win a mundane point that spiraled off of when cigarette stopped being included in MREs

Just don't smoke or drink. :>)

>>32903282
Allah?

>>32903268
/thread

It's a smoke pit.

>>32902961
hell yeah boy cigs are for queers

>>32901218
You realize how fucking addictive the shit is right!?

Imagine just not eating. In fact it would be easier for me to go without eating for two days than smoking.

>>32903042
I dont smoke because I dont want the black lung, but the truth is that shit has zero impact if your body is used to it.

Mother fucker next to me runs a 7 minute 1.5 mile, with lit smoke in his mouth. Gets a reprimand from the commander, but also gets a fitness award due to demolishing every aspect of the PT test...from the same commander 2 weeks later.

Dude fucking hung it next to the written LOR, which he also hung.

Guys you're forgetting we smoke because this shit is gay and helps us cope with the gayness. It's not because we want to look cool, it's because we can't smoke weed or any of that other fun stuff like you civvies.

>>32903042
>people who think cigarettes inhibit ability to fight
They are detrimental to your cardiovascular endurance, the single most important aspect of physical fitness to a soldier.

Stop being delusional and making excuses. Shit is bad for you and you are a weak-willed bitch unable to quit.

>>32903344
truuuuuuuuuuuu

Fuck that. They pick up the habit, smoke through retirement, and then die from COPD and pneumonia in my hospital after slowly suffocating to death over a decade. I'm sick of taking care of fat, entitled pieces of shit who spend fucking decades killing themselves but are somehow surprised when myself and the doctor try to explain that, oh yeah, they're fucked and also could they pretty please sign these "Do NOT Ressuscitate" papers.

>>32902840
>run out of smoke juice
>use vape grenades instead

>>32903407
That's why soldiers are pussies. They think it inhibits you. Marine infantrymen know smoking cigarettes while killing sandniggers look cool

>>32903481
you could stfu and do your fucking job commie. if i want a lecture i'll talk to my mother.

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>daytime /k/

>>32903587
It's what keeps me sane at work but by all means, it's fucking shit between 9-5

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>>32903587
I too miss when 4chan wasn't infected by SJW's.

>Wah let's bitch about smoking and attempt to gain some moral high ground

How far we've sunk.

>>32903578
These are the same retards that will play poker on a base in Kuwait for 6 months, smoke themselves into a VA hospital, then complain about the quality of the care. Fuck them.

>>32903578
>if i want a lecture i'll talk to my mother
Your mother won't talk to you.

>>32903720
>moral high ground
intellectual high ground*

In other words, you're dumb. You should actually listen though, not smoking is good for you.

>>32903720

Also.

>Lets not do something hazardous for your health while you do a job even more hazardous to your health

>>32903772
There's nothing wrong with that opinion. Preaching on 4chan is the problem. Keep it to yourself new buddy.

I don't stick dragon dildos up my ass personally, but I know better than to get twatty with those who do.

>>32903407
>physical fitness
>soldier
What century is it?

>>32903809
>Preaching on 4chan is the problem
There is nothing wrong with shaming people for their self-destructive habits.

Next you are going to tell me we should stop laughting at fat fucks. Not happening. You can either deal with it, go to your safe space or smarten up.

>>32903859
>crusades against the unhealthy on 4chan
>having a healthy life

You just need to accept that you're just as disgusting, if not worse, than the people that you ridicule.

>>32903910
>discouraging people from self-destructive habits is disgusting
I don't think so friend. I think you are just not feeling comfortable when people remind you of your bad habits.

Which is understandable, but not a reason to stop ridiculing you for it.

>>32903042
>ran 6.5 minute miles
wow thats almost as fast as a teenage girl

>>32903042
Well yeah, it's not gonna fuck you until your that fat fuck vet whos gassed out after walking to his car, and everyone wonders how you were ever a Marine.

>>32903042
> I also had people who smoked 2 packs a day and ran 6.5 minute miles
>a mile in 6.5 minutes is what smokers consider good
You can't make this shit up.

>>32903374
You do know what that guy is going to look like the second running isn't required to do his job right?

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>>32903935
I'm not that guy, and you're not wholly wrong, and I know it won't do anything to let you know.

That said, I just want to let you know you're a massive fucking faggot.

>>32903960
Over a course of 3+ miles? Your example was 1/10

>>32904023
Over 3 miles u twat

ITT: civilians arguing with veterans

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>>32904037
Case in point.

>>32903843
Well no one gave a shit untill 1932 and it became obsolete by 1995, so I'm going to guess 20th.

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>>32904055
>>32904069
So now it's 3 miles huh?

>>32901544
Shits laced with opium I always heard. Never noticed any numbness on my lips which how they say you can tell. May be 1st sgt fairy tales. I Donno.

>>32904100
At no point do you run a singular mile. 6.5 minute miles is the pace. So running 3 miles in under 20 minutes if you're familiar with multiplication. Further solidifying that this thread is full of civilians

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>>32903960
>wow thats almost as fast as a teenage girl
oh man, funny joke right there

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>>32903084
>doesn't have an argument
>resorts to flinging verbal shit and violence in the direction of the poster he disagrees with
are you by any chance a liberal?

The people in hear arguing with soldiers who have/do and have served with others who smoked during service are fucking autistic. I am a fucking alcoholic hippie who has been drinking every day for 5 years and high for 8, and smoking for 13 years. I started running again a couple of years ago and after the first session I was fine. I didn't run from may until september of this year because I fucked my foot up, and then I smoked, BLACK AND MILD CIGARS and got blackout wasted until January, and then I ran 10 miles in 80 minutes. You basement dwelling faggots -severely- overestimate the detriments of drugs on the body. I know I am a degenerate loser faggot. That is not my point.

>>32904137
I never had one laced with opium when I was over there. Without going into detail, let's just say I'd know if they were.

>>32903554
> run out of smoke grenades
> use vape instead

>>32903720
Who the hell here is talking about morality? Are you fucking stupid or something?

>>32903910
You sound incredibly fat.

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>>32904586
We've come full circle gents
>>32901072

itt neckbeards that havent been in the military are infuriated that their idea of it is wrong

>>32900930
I love Steve1989 ration reviews

>>32904398
>I am a fucking alcoholic hippie who has been drinking every day for 5 years and high for 8, and smoking for 13 years.
Opinion discarded.

Smoking is objectively bad for your health. How detrimental this is depends on the rest of your health. Yelling at someone on an Indonesian Sand Castle Forum isn't going to change anyone's mind.

But I'm also a fat fuck whose knees, heart, and back will never be the same, so whatever.

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>decide to quit smoking to prepare for basic
>finished my first month off cigarettes
>whole thread of people saying smoking didn't affect their PT scores

Literally the only other reason I quit was to improve my joint health, otherwise I don't know what all this was for.

ITT: anectodtes > science

>>32904784
You did the right thing. Anybody who says otherwise is an addict who is trying to justify their personal failings.

Any retard knows that smoking is unhealthy, but you can't deny that it takes the edge off in stressful situations.

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The real problem with cigarettes is they don't have a linear trend with their health risks. Someone who smokes 1-4 cigarettes a day has ~75% the risk potential as someone who crushes two packs, so the idea of moderation doesn't work.

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>when the 88m quits smoking because he says it isn't healthy and then dies in a roadside ambush because war also isn't healthy

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>smoking doesn't impact cardiovasular preformance at all

This desu, I just lived off cigarettes, booze, and whole sticks of butter while I was in field.
Never ate an MRE, drank water, or breathed air.
Never felt tired once either, modern medicine is a lie.

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>>32904880
I backslid into drinking in a big way, though.

Limiting vices is one thing, but working 50 hours a week on top of 15 going to the gym and eating at a 500 calorie deficit is going to kill me.

>>32904398
Look man, some people are Kieth Richards, and some are Keith Moon, your obviously a guy who can handle his shit, that doesn't mean a lot of people who tried to do that wouldn't be dead.

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OP here

What the fuck

>>32905449
That's fair. For what it's worth I'm quitting drinking and focusing on excercise more and it feels great.

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Sexual tyrannosaurus coming through

>>32905634
>tfw slack-jawed faggot

>>32905634
Hey Billy, so I told my girlfriend I wanted to get a little pussy...she said 'me too, mines as big as a house!'

Get it?

Cus hers was.......big as a house....

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>>32905634

>>32904957
>I backslid into drinking in a big way
>eating at a 500 calorie deficit

Plenty of calories in ethanol, worth keeping in mind if you're trying to shed pounds.

>but working 50 hours a week

Not brilliant for your health either.

>>32904398
>You basement dwelling faggots -severely- overestimate the detriments of drugs on the body.
Blame The "Truth". Between them and fucking D.A.R.E., America's got an entire generation of propaganda-spewing retards fucking shit up for everyone because they just can't mind their own fucking business.

>>32906086
Those faggots are more cancerous than the cigarettes themselves.
>4 back to back classes from 10-2
>trying to enjoy a smoke during my 10 minute break
>some bitch with blue hair starts yelling at me
>her friends come over and tell me smoking is bad and #truth shit
>I flip them off and continue looking at memes on my phone
Ruined my break and my smoke.

>>32902961
>golden blend
>calling anyone amateurs

You faggot. Beech nut red or day o work plug or nothing.

>>32903084
Fucking triggered liberal cuck if i ever seen one

>>32906001
Its supposed to be a 1000kcal deficit.

The work isn't too big a deal, its' two scut jobs just to save up some money before I leave. Stocking shelves and answering phones isn't bad.

>>32906142
>thingsthattoteshappenedguiz.jpg

>>32904398
>>32906086

I get that you guys enjoy smoking, and I think that's great, all power to you.
I have been out PTed by smokers a couple of times, and I agree that you can still be extremely fit while smoking, however, from the background of a proffessional athlete in an olympic sport, I can tell you with 100% certainty that outside of physically maiming yourself smoking is one of the worst things you can do for ongoing preformance, up there with bad diet, lack of sleep, and chronic dehydration.

If you wanna be fit and smoke, go ahead, but if you wanna be the fittest you can possibly be, and have your body working at it's best possible capacity, you can't smoke, simple as that.

It has been show to increase strain on the cardiovascular system and respiratory system short-term, aside from the fairly shaky research about long-term issues which I agree are not altogether conclusive in my humble opinion.

However carbon monoxide bonding to heomoglobin is straight up fact, and oxygen can't bond while it is there, so you get less oxygen in, and your heart has to work harder.

Smoking is still a lesser sin, sleeping around is probably more dangerous statistically for your overall health, but it does severly reduce short term physical preformance in comparison to your potential.

>>32906172
This is objectively correct

>>32906168
What, you think self-righteousness is limited to 4chan?

>>32906168
Hah, you haven't been on a college campus since 2015 have you?

>>32906172
Biggest risk to military personnel is the cartilage and joint health problems. Knee and ankle and shoulder cartilage already has fairly low oxygenation, so reducing that further with smoking leads to weaker tissue and worse injuries.

In a field where ruck runs are a periodic thing, that sounds like a problem.

>>32906172
I don't mind you. You know your shit and don't screech autistically. You aren't the propaganda-spewing retard I dislike; you're the guy who doesn't smoke because he doesn't want to smoke, and that's just fine.

>>32906172
You bring up fair points that should obviously be accounted for when trying to manage your health, I certainly won't blame you for that.

I think the only thing that is really riling people up in this thread is the holier-than-thou attitude presented by some posters, who are obviously just trying to get a rise out of others at this point.

I ran two miles in a little over 11 min, while smoking a tad under a pack a day.

>>32906205
>>32906234
>being so buttflustered that you have to repeatedly reply

Your story is fake and you're a fag

>>32906314
Not that guy, but I had a housemate who would go up to people and remind them that they need to be 20 feet away from university buildings to smoke. Thought he was some kind of health crusader or some shit, when he basically only ever ate refined carbs and processed meats.

These people exist.

>>32903168
>e-cig people only smarter than spice smokers
>nicotine users only slightly smarter than people who smoke random Chinese chemicals
Your opinion means absolutely nothing

>>32906314
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
Anon, you really need to pay attention to the poster count before you start screeching autistically.

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>>32906314
Sorry hoss, turns out you're a homo.

>>32906142
>dont you know smoking is bad for you?
i always respond with "so is talking to strangers"
they usually scoff and leave.

>>32902961
Red Man is good shit.

I... But... I hate every single one of you anti-smoking fuckwaffles.

In response to OP, probably not. The military is no longer run by soldiers who know what soldiers want/need in the field. Its run by liberal fuckblimps who do shit like ban skin mags in the PX because it 'fosters an environment of sexual assault' and all that other hippie shit. Servicemen are gonna be on their own when it comes to finding their own tobacco.

>>32906475
It's because since the health issues of smoking came up, the military doesn't want to be on the hook for every guy who comes down with emphysema in his 80s and decides to blame it on the pack of smokes the Navy gave him in '86.

Insurance calls are a bitch.

>>32903809
Who are you to preach to me about what I should keep to myself?

>>32906408
>hurr durr dem tabs lols guiz

>>32903344
The trick is to not start smoking in the first place.

>>32906544
That guy can preach, you can preach, and you are both free to get assmad about it. It's the beauty of 4chan

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You anti-smoking pussies are all fucking stupid, cigarettes are health for you, I literally eat three packs of cigarettes a day and can run 500 miles in two seconds.

>>32906546
I mean, you're still a homo, but thank you. Some say I am humorous at times.

>>32906510
>>32906510
But the downrange burn pits are A-OK! The adjustment disorder and screaming case of PTSD is not duty related, the tinnitus and hearing loss from shooting machine guns at assholes in a combat zone is totally not the military's fault because you were issued earpro, and good thing we're not issuing cigarettes because that can cause cancer. In the meantime, pretend we can't read the radiation warnings on everything in the commo, CBRN and mortar cages, mop up that broken mortar sight with a paper towel, huh huh, good thing we're not smoking!

That's fucking stupid is what that is.

>>32906674
But anon, if you didn't smoke, you would live for an additional 800 years until you eventually morph into Yoda and ascend into a higher plain of existence after your time on Earth has finished.

>>32906692
Welcome to the military; where the shit's made up and nothing fucking matters.

>>32906692
Thank you for understanding, citizen.

>>32906707
WHY THE FUCK DID I REENLIST? SOMEONE SHOOT ME NOW!

>>32900930
In the process of quitting, one month in, shit sucks. The plan is to put the money I'd be spending on smokes towards the college fund for the kid

>>32903084
Dont you have a protest to be at?

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>>32905819

>>32904586
>of out run vape
>instead smoke use grenade

>>32904185
Civvie who smokes and ran Cross country

Anyone who actually hasn't had to run any serious distance wont understand the reference. While most of the neckbeards here will shit on smoking most of them don't have friends and get winded running up their parents carpeted stairs.

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so many posts yet no pics of soldiers smoking

>>32907647
>Anyone who actually hasn't had to run any serious distance wont understand the reference

As a wrestler, I didn't understand the reference at all, and I run 5 miles a day plus conditioning sprints 3-4 days a week. The way we do it, single mile times are given as "x minuet miles" where as pace is given "y miles at x minuets per mile". But who knows, maybe we are doing it wrong.

>>32907821
With competitive running you're averaging your times on miles since you're typically running more.

We would rarely run singular miles so there was no real reason to time them. That included its an easier overall way to gauge pace. Running a mile in 6.5 mins isn't terribly fast.... running 5 miles at a 6.5 pace is pretty good.

>>32903976
>Tfw I'm on the edge of this and need to quit and get to the gym

>>32903344
I can't be the only one who just doesn't get hungry until dinner time despite not eating anything, as long as I don't see food.

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>>32900930
>>32903168

I can understand combat performance drugs but this is some nasty shit, and it makes you dependent on another commodity that will dictate some of your behavior if you end up going without it.

Also im not sure it really helps someone other than giving them something fun to do. Not quite sure it makes you alert either, ive heard it calms people down.

> might be okay for morale
> but fuck seriously, learn some breathing exercises and go jack off, your mood will be fixed in nothing flat

>>32903256
>>32903274
weakness introduced to a military

>>32906559
yeah the body resists even doing it from the get-go (retch), its something you gotta train the body into doing

not a worthwhile skill

if your body is telling you there's something wrong with it, doing it more isnt going to make it right, even if it adjusts

> my argument against it
Is just that it makes you a disgusting vile person to be around, even if you're a good person.

It used to be stylish, cool. When the world was simpler and cheap thrills were harder to come by. Ooh you can do drugs in broad daylight and its okay because this one doesnt make you spaz out or anything.

But its just more drugs and fucking weakness.

And I repeat its nasty as fuck, if its menthol it literally smells like a rotting corpse (and trust me ive smelled rotting animals before).

And After you get done, it sticks on you and im pretty damn sure you cant even tell. Whats wrong you say? You're the fucking pink elephant in the room thats what.

I heard an argument about it being a "social" thing on this thread. I cant see how its anything social, except with others who do it, and why because you're sharing a hobby of sorts?

At least Cigars are a little nicer to be around, but only because its bearable in passing.


> it helps people calm down
So you need a foreign substance in your body to do that?

Sounds like weakness. Learn how to do that without relying on something external, there are ways.

>>32907993
For that tirade, I'll have a smoke in your honor

>>32907993

>Menthol smells like rotting corpses
>Cigars smell better

do you even go outside?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWcAktsRk9w

>>32900960
This. If I was in the field getting shot at every other day, I would take every opportunity in engage in calming behavior without thought of the "health risk". Why would you care anymore? If you make it back you probably have the moral fortitude to quite anyway

>>32903304
Smoke pit is where its at.

This thread is triggering me. Its my own health fuck off. My great uncle shot down nips in wwii and cancer didnt get him until he was 90. Ive maxed the run since basic and its only getting faster.

>>32904949
/thread

>>32906692
Theres a reason all my ait instructors only had daughters.

>>32906763
I DID TOO WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH ME

I'VE BEEN FACEBLASTED BY JP-8 SO MANY FUCKING TIMES

>>32903042
>ITT: people who think cigarettes inhibit ability to fight

T H I S

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EVERYONE fucking smokes in combat, even people who don't smoke. Yes, smoking is unhealthy. No it doesn't affect you if you are in good physical shape. Anyone who has actually been in the military has known multiple PT studs who smoke like chimneys. You also embrace nicotine while deployed to help keep you sane.Oddly enough, poisoning your body helps your feel better when you're stuck in a shit hole surrounded by sub humans who want to blow you up all the time. Chances are most of you talking shit about smokers in combat are nogunz fags/NEET's.

t. former AD smoker who never had under a 260 PT score.

>>32900949
Snuff too. Dip is also the biggest

Copenhagen Wintergreen

>>32903155
> t. fat, out of shape, nogunz, neckbeard

>>32908146
>If you make it back you probably have the moral fortitude to quite anyway

AHAHAHAHAHA just like they have the moral fortitude to not end up homeless right?

Smoked while in the military, many others too. These faggots who go about weakness are just faggots who think they know everything.

Is it bad for you? Yes, do I give a fuck while I in some place I don't want to be? No.

Probably a lot more people would kill themselves in the military if they couldn't smoke BAKA.

>>32909862
You realize you are a massive piece of shit right?

>>32903042
JTF2 is quite probably the best SF unit in the world.
Average age of a JTF2 assaulter is 37.
How many of them you think are smokers?

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If you don't smoke you're a faggot. End of story.

>>32900930
The military should provide soldiers with cigarettes and doobies of mid-grade weed (gets you high enough to chill out, doesn't give you the munchies and wears off in about an hour). For free. It grows out of the ground and the paper comes from trees anyway. It's only natural.

To anyone wondering about smoking and the military go and get yourself enlisted and then see why it happens to everyone.

>>32913376
>Stoned soldiers
Just no. No army would be stupid enough to downgrade their soldiers ability to preform like that.
>But it makes me feel chill and stuff bra
No, shut the fuck up. I'd like to see you actually preform well when stoned before letting you open your moth. And sitting around on your couch or going casually survival camping does not cut it.

>>32900930
>when did that stop?
With the introduction of MRE's. Cigarettes were never in MRE's, which were introduced in 1981 and standard issue by 1986.

Cigarettes were last part of a US military meal in 1975, when they were eliminated from the LRP rations.

>any hate for smokeless tobacco

https://youtu.be/HayFxnfFgZk

>>32903151
Not who you're talking to. Former smoker here. You cannot watch Apocalypse Now without smoking if you've ever smoked. Someone has a cigarette lit through 3/4 of the movie.

>>32904030
Bad fucking ass.

>>32904100
Nigga its a pace.

>>32912354
How many Western Military Line Infantry man do you think dip and smoke.
You also misspelled CAG.

ITT: People who went to war get trolled by neets for finding a little glimpse of peace and calm amidst ruin, death and despair through smoking tobacco

Protip: you do not need to justify your freedom to smoke, least of all if its purely serving the purpose of feeding the trolls.

>>32913376
As much as i enjoy weed all day erryday, war is no place to be doing it. Even if it affects you for a span of only 1 hour and its a mild high, the enemy will strike when you least expect it and when you are least prepared. You WILL fuck up and in such a scenario fucking up is a life or death situation for you and everyone around you.

>>32913376
Fuck it. Why don't we just give em some twice stepped on coke.

>oh shit contact
>dude give me a bump
>FUCK YOU GOAT FUCKER RRRRAAAAHHHHH
>IM GONNA RUSH EM
>adrenaline and cocaine last long enough in pvt. Montana's body for him to reach middle ground between contact and friendly position
>"wait wtf am I doi...."
>head is torn off by dune coon

>>32906374
>nicotine users only slightly smarter than people who smoke random Chinese chemicals
E-cig juice is random Chinese chemicals. You get some nicotine, anti-freeze and random chinese flavor chemicals and huff the vapor.

>>32907993
Lots of people do get addicted to cigarettes/dip. Neither are healthy.

I know people who literally only dip when they drive cross country and use it like a tool. Like other combat stimulants (AMPHETAMINES) addiction and habitual use is a risk, but lots of that depends on the person.

It also relates to the duration and frequency of use. You likely know many habitual users of coffee, they aren't addicted to coffee, but they literally drink it every day or every weekday and get awful grumpy without it.

>>32908316
>FACEBLASTED BY JP-8
I have fond memories of being airborne standing behind a C-130 in 150 degree jetwash as that unburned kerosene diffuses into your skin and gear.

>>32915465
That's not a fond memory you have, that's skin cancer.

>>32914232
You misspelled UKSF.