CC Thread.

>>32890604
>pic related
Best overall micro-gun. Don't waste time or money on anything else.

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>>32890604
Those sights look very catch-able

>>32890775
enjoy your FTF / FTE

>>32890604
>single action
>can't safely carry condition 0
Nty

>>32890830
It's a sig 938, not a glock 26

>>32890775
why? its size and being SAO, N/A it as a pocket gun, and is just as concealable IWB as many double stacks.

>>32890854
>hey look my gun doesn't have any safeties!
>but that's okay because it has a 30 lb trigger with 6" of travel
Nah fuck that. You wanna shoot a gun that's shit tier you go ahead

Was seriously considering investing in one of those but the single action only kind of killed me.

Considering getting a S&W 442 instead for a pocket carry.

>>32891018
wtf do I need a safety for?
my Glock 19 came with a 6lbs trigger, which is lighter than the advertised 7.5lbs of a P238 (many reports of actually 8lbs). it's now it's around 4.5lbs.

>>32890997
I carry IWB in tight jeans. It fits just fine and being sao isn't a problem if you know how to use it

>>32890854
You can carry with round chambered, hammer down and safety on no problem. You're fucking stupid if you think the lack of a safety mechanism is the only criteria

>>32891242
>if you know how to use it
I can flip a switch kid, I choose to not have to.

>>32891184
If thats what you carry then why bitch about a relatively heavy single action trigger?

>>32891286
it's retarded to put an 8lbs trigger on a SAO, especially if you're claiming it to high quality. I bet you can't take it below 5lbs without getting light primer strikes.

>>32891281
Then don't act like you've made an objectively superior decision, or that it's the only criteria by which to judge

I really wantedt o like the p238. But the one I got was stovepipe special , ammo picky and the magazine would eject on its own. Back to Sig it went. For good.

>>32891374
Not that anon who claimed it to be quality. To me seemed like you were implying carrying a sao condition 0 was a safety issue, but you had a glock with a light trigger

>>32891405
That's nuts. My gf carries a 238 and every 238 I've ever used has been nothing but reliable

>>32891405
Sounds like that particular gun in general. Mines never had a failure to feed.

>>32890604
Fuck the LCP. Not that it's a terrible gun but you posted one of the best CC weapons IMO. Especially if you're rocking the 938.

>>32890799
That's kind of the point. The slide can be racked with the rear sights one handed. The rear of them won't catch but the front is designed to.

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My most comfy carry option. Never had any failure with fmj or hollow points. Roughly 600 rounds through it so far

>>32891547
938 btw

>>32891433
I wasn't the guy that talked about condition zero, but you almost could with an 8lb trigger. having a good length of travel would help make it a bit safer. at that point might as well be DAO. safeties can get knocked off in the pocket, but they can get knocked on too. I like pocket guns to be in the same state as when I put them in my pocket.

>>32891380
I listed multiple reason why it's a dumb design here: >>32890997
I was responded to by a guy in girl jeans, that thinks 0.08" justifies a single-stack

>>32890604
I love my Bodyguard

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>>32890604

>>32890604
The P238 and P938 are not ideal carry guns unless you're trying to convert some fudd away from 45 AARP. The P938 is the size of a G26, and the P238 is the largest and heaviest 380 until you get into the Bersa Thunder / PPK. That makes for a good shooter, but I'll take capacity. It sure is nice looking, though.

>>32891578
That's 2 reasons, dipshit. The size is irrelevant anyway, if it fits it fits. I'd rather have a comfortable to shoot pistol with a few less rounds than an Xbox controller

ITT: people confusing subjective opinions with objective truths

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>>32890604
I kinda want a Steyr L9A1, since they feel SO GOOD in my hand, but I bet it's too fat and long for IWB. :(

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>Post your Ideal CC gun.

I can't find a picture. If anyone knows of an example of what I'm about to describe, please let me know. I want a S&W 24 (six rounds, .44 special) turned into a Fitzgerald special. Here is a classic Fitz Special as a reference. I want it DAO, hammer bobbed, 1 5/8" barrel, smooth wood grips (ebony if possible), stainless steel or nickel finish, a gold bead front sight, and yes, that ridiculous trigger guard modification.

>>32891651
>comfortable to shoot
>2 finger grip single stack
you don't shoot it

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>>32890604
Real men only need 5 shots.

>>32891761
Do you not use the extended floor plate? You are doing it wrong

>>32891627
They may be the same length, but the G26 is much much thicker. I got rid of my G26 to carry a 938

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I carry one of these two, or my USP compact 45. I carry the P01 the majority of the time, but thinking about going back to the USPc simply because it conceals so well.

>>32891824
>the G26 is much much thicker
It's only thicker at the slide, anon. 1.1" vs 1.18" overall: It's literally 1/16".

>>32891812
>extended floorplate
i-it's a feature not a bug guys...

>>32891882
What can you possibly have against it

>>32891807
boat anchor

>classy
no, vintage Smiths and Colts are classy

>>32891897
if using a non-extended floor-plate magazine, turned it into a valid pocket gun, I would understand it. it doesn't though. it makes the grip worse, for no fucking reason.

>>32891984
That's true for most pocket guns though. There's a reason they almost all come with one

>>32891807
That is not the ideal carry gun. However, it is a wonderful trail gun. Robust, overbuilt, it'll stand up to decades of abuse on the ranch or inna woods.

>>32891807
I'm planning on getting that same size SP101 in .327 for that sixth shot.

>>32891433
Which he essentially carries condition 0.

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Because light

>>32892020
if it isn't a pocket gun, makers need to put a 3 finger grip on it. it's fine on the P238 I suppose, but SAO pocket guns are dumb anyway. the P938 needs a 3 finger grip. it is in no way a pocket gun.

>>32892113
>cylinder erosion
>frame stretch
>recoil
I hope you barely shoot it and only shoot .38sp

>>32892199
How? It's only slightly larger than the 238 and fits just fine IWB even in tight jeans. And as discussed earlier in this thread, sao is only a problem if you don't know how to use it

>>32891931
Your handifu is trash.

>>32890775

Glock 42 is just as good if not better.

>>32892083
Not a bad choice. Expect to get into reloading if you want to shoot it more than casually though.

>>32892325
>fits just fine IWB even in tight jean
yes, so do double stacks

>sao is only a problem if you don't know how to use it
if your fallback is an 8lbs trigger, there was no point in the safety to begin with.

the only reason this is SAO w/manual safety to begin with, is because it's the cheapest/easiest way to comply with states that have safety requirements, in which you would have to submit guns without a manual safety, for examination and testing to get approval for sale in that state.

tl;dr
you bought a compromise pistol, because it had a Sig roll mark on the side.

>>32892489
7+1 is adequate for CC. Course, you would know that had you read the FBI statistics. Most people haven't so I can't really blame you. As far as the manual safety goes, it makes absolutely no difference. Just carry with a round chambered and hammer cocked, safety on. If you have to use it, flip the safety. It isn't even hard, and if you are incapable of using a safety then you need more practice.

I bought a pistol that was the most comfortable, accurate and ergonomic pistol. It makes Glocks look fucking stupid from a shootability standpoint and handles 9mm better than any other pocket pistol I've tried. And I tried every single one I could get my hands on

>>32892489
And because I know you'll ask, Google "FBI statistics defensive gun use". It's in PDF format or I'd just post the link

>>32892489
I thought they made it sao because it's basically a micro 1911, in keeping with the simplicity

>>32892673
>argue the combo of a manual safety and 8lbs trigger is retarded
>pretends I said manipulating a safety was hard because that's easier to defend
wew lad

>FBI statistics defend small capacity
>FBI issues double stacks to people that carry all day everyday, even in administrative roles
you should really contact them and let them know of their hypocrisy.

>Glocks look stupid
idgaf. I stopped carrying Gucci shit when I scratched the shit out of my USP, crawling under my truck to change a starter in a parking lot. I've been carrying for 16 years. carried 1911s, revolvers, Sigs, HK, and Glock. I shoot better than average with any of them, but eventually settled on Glock, for the price/performance of something that is going to get beat up in real world use. it took me 10 years of resisting Glocks, but eventually realized it was the best carry gun on the market. if i were a cop, I'd probably carry a USP cocked and locked. as I'm not, I carry a Glock 19 IWB. I'm actually selling my P239 to get a pocket gun. debating the new S&W 642 Pro-Series, but if I went Gucci pocket auto, I'd still go Seecamp .380 before P238

>>32892962
if 1911 pocket autos were good because of the simplicity, the Mustang wouldn't have been a piece of shit. SAO doesn't make something more reliable. tilting barrel autos less than 4" are bound to have problems either tight off the bat, or shortly down the road. luckily for Sig, nobody actually shoots them very much.

>>32893177
Idk, I've never talked to anyone that owned one that didn't shoot them often and it didn't function flawlessly. The mustang was shit because colt. Don't blame the design on a manufacturer known for sloppy shit like this

>>32891734
Colt used to be good

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>>32893108
I misunderstood what you were getting at with the trigger pull. Although mine comes in at under 7 lbs, it's not a mushy trigger either. It's not, objectively speaking, a problem. As for the FBI statistics, special agents aren't normal people in normal situations. If you're concerned about what professionals are doing, why aren't you carrying a 10.5" AR?

Also, I didn't mean Glocks look stupid in reference to their physical appearance. I meant it is far more comfortable and handles 9mm better than comparable Glocks. But that's just an opinion

>>32893197
what do you mean buy "shoot them often"? I put 200-400 rounds through my carry piece per month, erry month. everybody I've met with something like this, are lucky to put a box through them ever 2 months. they shoot a mag or two then switch over to the range toys. everybody selling them brags about the low round count through them. they have holster wear, because of Sig's shit coatings, but immaculate throats. I'm happy just actually shooting my Glock, then buying a new one every 2 years. I get most of my money back out of them when i sell them.

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>>32890604

>>32893285
bought one of these for my wife and I prefer it over my USPc

>>32893296
>why aren't you carrying a 10.5" AR?
I don't shoot dogs

>>32893397
I go shooting at least every other week and when I do I put 2 boxes of 50 rounds each through it, so that's no less than 200 rounds every month. I've had it for 6 months so it must be over 1200 rounds by now. I don't have any problems with it, coating hasn't rubbed off or anything. No ftf/fte's but I keep it cleaned and oiled. There is simply no objective reason to hate it as much as people seem to, and the only arguments against it have been subjective. I'm not going to say it's the best for everyone, but I will say it's a dam good pistol and happens to be the best for me

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can this be legally CC'd?

>>32893736
would you want to?

>>32893626
glad to see you're shooting it. you're the minority. check back in another 6 months

>>32893736
If you can find a way to actually conceal it.

>>32892215
As someone who doesn't have any wheel gats it sounds like you're memeing

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>>32894123
Ti cylinders suck if you actually shoot your volver. the front face disintegrates. pic related.

I don't care what they alloyed the shit with, aluminum frames stretch and wear fast with .357Mag.

.357 will beat the shit out of your hand in an airweight. S&W only gets away with making guns that die so easily, because nobody wants to shoot them. they are fine new, carry .357 if you want, put only shoot .38 Special in them. even then, they still go to the grave early. not exactly something you will be passing on to your grandchildren.

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My carry, loving my keltec. Perfect pocket pistol.

>>32894240
Thanks for the explanation. Learn something every day! Does the distain disintegration affect the integrity? I could definitely see how the frame stretch would

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>12 +1
>full grip

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Love my 43. 100% reliable

>>32894240

>.357 will beat the shit out of your hand in an airweight

This, goddamn. I'd been used to shooting heavy framed 357's and 44's before I shot an airweight 357 and it really caught me off guard. I could see it being fun every now and again, but I'd never own one for regular range time or "real world" use.

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150 grain HST

>>32894182
nice shirt. i can tell you wipe your blade off with it.

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>>32890604
An oberezed T-Gwehr. It should fit easily in my jockstrap.

>>32894760
I very highly doubt that's a real group, while it very well could be, it's doubtful.


If so, why would you lie on the internet to a bunch of weebs on a cardboard boat building forum?

>>32894760
nice shooting

>>32894809
fuck off scrub

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>>32890604
>Post your Ideal CC gun.

>Glock 19 size or smaller
>Da/Sa
>At least 10 round mag
>Not heavy
>Rail for a light
>At least somewhat aesthetic.

REEEE WHY DO HAVE SUCH SPECIFIC TASTES? I'VE NOT FELT SAFE WITH ANY GUN I CARRY

>>32894739
I had one and sold it. Perfectly reliable and all that. Traded up for a glock 26, roughly the same size other than the width with 4 more rounds is what got me.

>>32891807
t. Elmer Fudd

>>32895108
>Da/Sa

You deserve all the suffering you get.

Anyone carry a J Frame?

I'm getting a Performance Center 642 in 2 weeks, am I fucking up?

I plan on Pocket/Car carrying it.

>>32895280

I have a 642 for pocket carry, perfect for it

>>32895108
Sig sp2022? DA/S.A. polymer 15+1 cap

>>32894862
I'm with this guy >>32894809

On the grounds that you can't make such a tight group without a small target to aim at. Unless there was a target on top, or some other sort of small point which was aimed for.

tl;dr
If you aim at a 4x6 inch paper square your groups will be shit regardless of how good you are at shooting

>>32895194
I've kept my 43 over a 26 because I pocket carry and that tiny little bit wider really does make a difference in the pocket. If it was my IWB piece it'd be a full size, cause I'm a full sized person.

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>>32890604

>>32893296
FBI statistics don't just relate to agents ya drongo. They're about the use of guns in general

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>>32890604
Im a basic bitch, though I do think about getting something a bit fancier, Im lazy and the glock works perfectly

>>32896027
My point was they don't relate to them well at all. They were statistics on defensive shootings and justifiable homicides. Not anything to do with special agents

>>32891807
Agreed. Real men have CLASS as well as martial prowess. An aesthetic wheel gun just outclasses a plastic semiauto peashooter.

>>32890854
Has a heavier trigger than every "DAO" safetyless gun on the market, it's safe to carry condition 0.

>>32893177
I have around 5k down the pipe of mine, not a single issue, it's also accurate enough to shoot challenge steel at 25 yards.

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>>32890604

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>>32890604
I carry this in a Sneeky Pete holster. Good capicity, 100% reliable and very comfortable

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>>32893736
depends on where you live.
myself, i would SBR it, give it a folding stock and carry it in a small bag. in addition to my regular CC pistol ofcourse.

>>32891405
Mine was the same, made it a very in reliable carry firearm.

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>>32895280
I carry a charter arms undercover. Similar in size to a j frame.

>>32895898
Fair enough my dude.

>>32897015
How do you like it? And how to Charters stack up against S&W?

>>32897058
There a cheaper product, they have plastic trigger guards. That being said its a fantastic gun without a hillary hole.

>>32897376
>fantastic gun without a hillary hole
meh, lately Smith has been keeping one or two models in current production line-up without the internal lock. currently has the 640 Pro Series and 642 Pro Series out right now, for almost the same price as the standard 640/642.

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Still don't have my permit.

Kinda wish I had something else, but this hit the intersection of size and price pretty damn well. Smaller than basically everything except maybe the Solo or the P938.
P938 was off the list because it isn't DOA.

>>32898137
>the Solo
they ever get that thing running right?

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>>32898168
Not that I heard. I avoided it because it was way too expensive not to be dead reliable.

Now that I think back on it I'm pretty happy with the CM9.

Need to get the permit and a holster.

The G43 was also a big contender for me, except it was $150 more than the CM9, and a little bit bigger.

I have an LCR .357, should I just use .38 +P in it?

>>32898168
>kimber
no

>>32898216
Probably, yeah.

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I'm planning on buying a legit CC piece over the summer, but was was looking for some outside opinions on this.
The only handgun I currently own is a Walther P22, and it being what it is it isn't that great of a handgun. Is it remotely worth it to get my CCP early and carry it until better options come up or would it be better just to wait.
Since the thing seems to be a bag of suck I haven't pursued carrying it but I've toyed with the idea and wanted some other thoughts.

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>>32890604
Question
Is there anything wrong with a Sphinx for a CC gun?
I want to replace my sp-01
It's
30% lighter
Same capacity
Shorter slide and grip

>>32890775
Even the P938? That's a P238

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Elsie Pea is an amazing pocket pistol.

.380 will stop a groid dead with proper shot placement.

Fits in a front pocket and is no bigger than a cell phone.

Fits in back pocket about the size of a large wallet.

.380 has some kick to it. My favorite gun and I want to try the new Ruger snub nose polymer .357 magnum they have. It looks like it will blow holes in groids and prevent enrichment and diversification.

>>32897376
>>32898054
I'm a revolver noob, whats the lock do?

>>32898535
you can always get the permit and get a gun for it later. The permits cover knives also, not that they're the most useful but something is possible better than nothing i guess.

>>32899305
sounds like a win win

What's a good p239 holster?

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>>32890604
An improvement on the LCP

>>32900327
God why is it so ugly?

>>32900327
I've got a yellow one myself. 1500 rounds through it and still going good, just rattles.

>>32900344
They made the grip a little wider to make to easier to hold. I chose it over the LCP because after shooting both back to back. It was way more comfortable to shoot.

>>32900368
She just looks thick?
Thank god for plastics that thing would weigh a shitton if it were metal no?

>>32900393
If it were an allow like the RM380 it wouldn't be so bad, but yeah definitely. I think unloaded it's 10.2 oz.

>>32900368
Yeah, much more comfortable to shoot, better trigger, etc.

>>32891405
I like my p238, but it's had slide lock spring and ejector replaced. It seems to be working now, but I was not happy to see failures to extract and last round hold not working.

>>32899305
Only problem I see is they will confiscate it if you ever have to use it. You won't get it back for awhile

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>>32899654
it's a turn-key vasectomy for your revolver

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>>32900327
Cheaper and better trigger. Huge fan.

>>32893736
In based Nevada you can.

Although there aren't many times where a trench coat wouldn't look out of place

>>32902030
>thread devolves into poorfag-general
I'll try to contain my surprise

>>32902074
More money to spend on ammo and training lol. Stay mad.

>>32902074
>your gun must be 1000+ or it is a hunk of shit

Don't be a fag

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Sig P290RS. easily pocket carried unless you are wearing faggy skinny jeans or something. I prefer the DAO to a stovepiping cocked single action in my pocket

Glock 20 for CC

Viable? I can hide a fullsize Px4 on me with little issue as a reference. I really want that meme power.

>>32902193
you get that some people can afford ammo, without having to buy guns from the 3rd world, right?

>>32891825
those holsters sauce please

>>32905072
TCPs are made in the USA, and more reliable than ruger, smith and wesson, kahr and sig when it comes to pocket 380s. Money was not a factor in my purchase.

>>32905301
yes, it's build by immigrant spics in Miami, and all the profits leave the country. woopty fucking do

>>32891807
*tips fedora*

>>32905046
ehhh i'd say it's a woods gun. get a 29 instead for ccw. the weight is a factor to consider. sig 10mm fmj and hpr fmj are the best bang for your buck that i've seen. avoid federal since it's totally mangina loaded.

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>>32890604
Can't get any better than an LCP when you can get an ungainly over sized 15 round magazine for the LCP.

Let's see the other pocket pistols do that.

>>32901973
called by some as the Hillary Hole

>>32905494
Hey man, that's racist.

>>32890604
P7

>>32905301

Glock 42 is literally best USA made .380 microgun, buddy.

>>32905683
Man, I really only want one though. Would it work if I got a 29, then just got a long barrel to drop in for innawoods?

hello, am looking for at least a 10+1 9mm slim frame, i hate bulky grips.

>>32894667

My grandfather gave me his Keltec P3AT that he's been carrying around in his pocket forever.

It shoots like garbage but it does go bang and weigh fucking nothing. Something I think I noticed is that it doesn't like to go +1, it seemed to fail to eject the first round if you did this.

Does anyone else have one of these ? Are those extended magazine/grips worth it ? The recoil is so snappy, I think a lot of that is from there being not a lot to hold on to.

>>32907040
lol
glock doesn't make any good gun
glock = shit tier plastic hip hop gun

>>32907040
I disagree, but I do think it's still better than the TCP. I had one for awhile. TCP's are trash