lube

>>32874161
i dont use it to clean but i like breakfree clp as a lube.
brake cleaner and clp is a very effective and economical combo

>>32874161
Ballistol, CLP, a big tub of lanolin my gf bought for her tits, some bottle of Wilson Combat synthetic oil that feels like it has silicone in it, mineral oil, hoppes

>>32874161

Breakfree is trash, ballistol,slip,weaponshield and other CLP's are good

some good suggestions here, thank you.
>32874305
it there any reason you dont like breakfree? or is it just that there a better options

>>32874161
Mobil 1 full synthetic 5w30

>>32874161
>i hear that CLP is shitty
You've heard wrong.

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Honor Lord Pepe and get frog lube. It works for me.

>>32874992
or just a big jar of coconut oil

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>>32874992

>>32874161
> CLP
> White Mineral Oil
> Lucas Marine Grease

>>32874992

only good for southern states, anywhere else and it's a gummy nightmare in the winter time

>>32874459

this

only use a thicker synthetic oil if you live in a hot place, lighter synthetic oil if you live in a colder place, and you are good to go

or you can go guerilla, use gasoline and bootlaces

>>32875074
I'll take body heat for 500, Alex

>>32874161
Cleaning I use CLP since that's what the manufacturer specifies. Lubrication I use light machine oil and lithium soap grease. Anything marketed towards guns is bullshit.

>>32874459
Do not use engine oil, gear oil, ATF, or anything automotive specific for your gun.

>>32874161
Use Ed's Red for cleaning my bore, then I use CLP for cleaning the frame/receiver and other parts that get dirty, after that I lube using SLiP 2000

>>32875143
Why?

I put some 4stroke motorcycle on my AR last time I cleaned it. What's the problem?

>>32875144
>Ed's Red

my nigga

>>32875168
Nothing is the problem. Engine oil is designed for far more harsh conditions than a firearm it will work just fine.

>>32875168
not that anon, but i think the argument against it might be possible health issues that arise from prolonged exposure.

Hoppe's # 9 for cleaning, Slip 2000 for lubricating.

>>32875196
>Engine oil is designed for far more harsh conditions than a firearm

Yeah, in an enclosed fucking case with no exposure to air or water.

Exposed to elements? Engine oil is shit.

>>32875246
Fireclean shill pls go

>>32875286
>Fireclean
Literally never even heard of it until now.

In a bind I would use engine oil on AK. On my AR, Beretta or Mosin? Fucking never. Gun oils or fuck off.

>>32875168
I think it needs to be specified "synthetic" motor oil is gtg.
Iirc; traditional motor oil has impurities or something that hurt the finish

>>32875196
Arent you suposed to be in the artic

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>>32875143
ATF is goat, get fucked...

>>32875246
>No exposure to air
I'm guessing you are not a power-train engineer. Motor oil works fine.The lubricant is meant to reduce friction between metal surfaces and water is not going to dissolve a non-polar compound. People on this sight are fucking dumb.

>>32875372
No I'm supposed to be in medical school. But I dropped out.

>>32875388
... im gonna write my paper now

>>32875376
Fuck. *Site.

Mobil 1 is a billion dollar formula, boutique gun oils and cleaners are repackaged auto industry products.


the small companies filling bottles in their garage dont know anything the petroleum industry doesn't already know.

>>32875376
>The lubricant is meant to reduce friction between metal surfaces

Yeah, let's take this oil meant for large moving parts and apply it to small moving parts.

Then you say I'm the dumb one. OK.

>>32875442

It's oil, it doesn't mater what size the part is.

>>32875442
The size of the part is pretty irrelevant hombre

>>32875452
>>32875459
>These guys

WEW
E
W

Massive fucking difference between the 5W-30 in my oil pan and the Hoppe's gun oil on my workbench.

I can see it working on your AK bolt carrier, or your handgun's slide, but it won't do shit for your trigger, springs or your AR's bolt carrier.

>>32875442
>>32875482
You are both retards who deserve to never touch a firearm in your entire life again. The size of the fucking part does not matter. The ar15 is not a sensitive design, just oil the damn thing and stop overthinking it.

>>32875482

Your right, the mobil 1 has EP and anti wear properties, the hoppes is 100% white mineral oil in a small bottle.

>>32875482
If you find a motor oil of a higher viscosity, it will act exactly as the hoppes on your bench does.

>>32875548
>Garand Thumb confirmed for oil specialist and can tell you exactly about their specific adhesion properties and thermal resistance when comparing the performance of an auto engine to that of a firearm.

I'm going to not listen to you, and instead I'll listen to the auto wrenchers who tell me it's not the best idea for guns.

>>32875622
>Auto Wrenchers. People in a fucking auto shop with no BSE
>Implying that motor oil wouldn't work good in a firearm because he buys shit that is way more expensive and does the same damn thing.
>Implying I claimed I was a lubricant engineer when all I claimed was that motor oil works fine because it is a fucking oil with EP and high temp properties

>>32875622
> guy who knows about gun for putting something in a gun
Or
>guys who know about cars for putting something in a gun

TLDR this thread for me

Can I use CLP to clean and lube: or should I get something else to clean and then use CLP to lube?

I shoot >1000 rounds a year and CLP has always worked well for me.

>>32875659
>>32875683
CLP is fine if you want to use it. Just don't be a dumbass and buy fireshit or other snake oils.

>>32875659
I use hoppes no 9 for cleaning, give it a wipe down, then use CLP for lube and corrosion protection, and its worked fine for me across my collection

>>32874161
I use diesel and shoe strings to clean, and MAYBE rem-oil or something.

>>32874284
Why would one put lanolin on their tits or their gun?

>>32875650
>People in a fucking auto shop with no BSE
Wrong-o, buck-o. My first go-to auto guy is a lifelong auto wrencher with a physics background and lots of know-whats about machining and metallurgy.

>but muh EP and muh high temp
Something your car needs and doesn't really benefit your gun in any way, shape or form.

You like it? Fine. Good for you. I think CLP has you beat, personally, and I don't think you should fucking shout about Mobil 1 from the goddamn rooftop like it's the end-all lubricant on the planet.

>>32875653
>>guys who know about cars for putting something in a gun
Since the topic is ENGINE OIL, yeah.

>>32875728
Thanks anon. I've been bore scrubber to clean and generic brand gun oil to lube so far, but all I own right now is a PPQ so I don't have a lot of metal to deal with.

>>32875168
Engine oils have detergents that can harm finishes. Gear oils and ATF have friction modifying compounds that allow things like friction discs in automatic transmissions and limited slip differentials to work properly. Plus it's all more expensive than the simple light machine oil you can use instead.

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I'm using lubriplate right now, works great. Might try the Geisselle super thin grease though, dude makes some of the best firearms items I've ever bought

>>32875855

Geisselee grease they sell with their triggers is mobil aeroshell grease.

>>32875803
>Implying that an oil that burns off easily is just fine, which is to be expected since this asshole uses CLP which is thin as norovirus shit.
>Implies that firearm mechanisms never undergo high pressure or temperature.
>Is arguing against something which has been used for decades to prevent friction

>>32875903
>which is to be expected since this asshole uses CLP which is thin as norovirus shit.

AR is still wet from its CLP application in August.

What now faggot?

>>32875912
Not hard when you dont shoot

>>32875869
I'm talking about the new extra thin grease they announced before / during SHOT. If it doesn't work then oh well, the lubriplate is basically perfect anyhow

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>>32875924
>you dont shoot

If only that were true.

Not related to guns but can balistol be used as personal lube? I looked online and got no results.

Im to cheap to get real lube and just need something to jack my meat.

>>32875968
No.no it cannot

>>32875903
>Implies that firearm mechanisms never undergo high pressure or temperature.
The surfaces that need lubricant? No, they do not. At least not in comparison to a piston engine.

>>32875820
No problem, also if you git minor rust spots, what i do is spray a bit of CLP on the rust and let it sit a bit, and gently take a brass brush to it until the rust cleans away, don't go absolutely insane on the brushing, because thats when you will start to damage the rest of the finish.

>>32876034
fuck,
get*

>>32875974
>Implies that bolt lugs stay cold as fuck and can't see the stupidity in arguing against an oil that costs less than $10 per quart that will last you thousands of applications and works just fine
>Implies that every aspect of an ICE is undergoing extreme pressure when the only area of extreme pressure is the combustion chamber

Shooters choice firearms bore cleaner and rem oil.

>>32876067
>Implies that bolt lugs stay cold as fuck
They don't require lubrication.
>Implies that every aspect of an ICE is undergoing extreme pressure when the only area of extreme pressure is the combustion chamber
Why do you like to talk about shit you don't know about?

>>32875016
kek

>>32875388
What's it like being a failure?
t. MCV

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>Dropout pretending to be a trip that actually has experience
You need a better hobby, kid

>>32875968

You can consume ballistol perfectly safely, its medical grade mineral oil and is authorized for consumption.

>>32874161
Anyone else have the issue with CLP that no matter how much or how little I use, it always seeps through and drips down the gun, gets all over the mag, and grips?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcBu6q61G3M&spfreload=10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzdqCekiXno&spfreload=10

Larry uses motor oil so thats what I use

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9bOT_d60LM&spfreload=10

>>32876142
almost like that's it's job.

>>32876177
Larry is a moron.

>>32876158
Reading a fucking google translate there

>>32874161
Just get Ballistol., it does everything. The German military ran off the stuff in both world wars.

>>32874161
50 weight mobile 1 oil.
My CZ seems to like it.

>>32875143
>I know nothing about oils, the post

A synthetic engine oil meets all requirements for firearms.

I yank cans of LPS (1) and (2) from my air nat guard hanger.

I just spray the shit out of my gun and the soot just drips out. I then strip it and whip it dry. Use mix of LPS spray and Hops 9 to nuke the barrel lead/soot.

Dry everything off and add gun oil (hint all gun oil is gun oil)

>>32876994
What about the reverse though? Next time I need my oil changed can I just dump some CLP in there?

>>32875246
>in an enclosed fucking case with no exposure to air
This is how I know you don't work on cars.
Because there is a flow of air running through all engines via the PCV system.
PCV=crankcase ventilation system

Coconut Oil.

If it's good enough for IJA Arisakas and USMC Garands in WWII, it's good enough for your faggots.
firing your hipster guns

S
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0
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I use grease on all my guns

Can't remember the name but it comes in a syringe and is cherry red

It lasts a long time and grease is best lubricant for m1 garands

>>32874161
ISO 68 non-detergent oil, it's somewhere around 20 weight.

non-detergent doesn't foam up in the presence of water, it also sticks in place better.

>>32874992
You have to go back

>>>/pol/

>>32875336
You're supposed to oil a Mosin?

>>32874992
That shit is expensive.

>>32876994
Stop.
>>32877091
I mean, not really. It's blowby from the combustion chamber being vented.

>>32876209
So it's supposed to constantly leak out of the gun and lubricate things you need to hold on to?

Break through clean is great been using their battle born lube, it works great.

G96 complete care is the best. Smells like bubblegum and ain't overtly toxic

>>32878664

>Not oiling the bolt
>Not giving it some surface love once in a while

You don't have guns, do you?

>>32875774
Its great for guns just be sure it's hydrous. Also keeps skin and nipples supple. It actually works really well as a thin grease

Is RemOil any good?

>>32881320
I think so.

>>32874161
Wheel bearing grease or common tool oil.

Cleaning Guns is WAY overstressed. Use anything cheap and don't sweat it. Rinse metal parts if youre using corrosive.

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>>32874161
Mil fag here.

I've used nothing but CLP for 15 years to lube my guns.

The shit works.

For cleaning bores, I use foaming bore cleaner. CLP to lube after.

No corrosion or nothing. Even works well on my SKS's after corrosive ammo use.

>>32875441
100% this

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>>32874161

>>32882049
Milfags being retarded, big fucking suprise. Your lube is shit and sks has a chrome barrel so it doesnt rust, big
Shocker. >>32882049

>>32875968
Just spit on it faggot

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>>32882123

Never go full retard.

>all SKS's have chrome bores.

How dumb are you?

>>32882133
Fuck you faggot, only time I like spit when it's from another bitch.

>>32882389
>Won't spit on his own dick
What are you, gay?

>>32881158
missing the joke

>>32874161

lubriplate sfl 0

>>32882428
It's a peeve never once tried. Fuck it guess it's something new for to,do.

>>32877075
Not CLP, it's too thin and contains solvents to clean. But any kind of "gun oil" would work fine in a 4 stroke engine, provided it was the right viscosity.

For running dry, I really like Hornady One Shot.
For running wet I like MPRO
Foamy bore cleaners are great

>>32874161
I've always used CLP. Don't really see any reason to use anything else desu

>>32887119
Hornady One Shot is paul pierce my nigga.

>>32887146
You see a reason to use a tripcode when you don't need to though.

>>32887149
wtf does that even mean

>>32887149
Are you a nigger?

>>32888399
My be basketball-american speak. Proceed with caution.

>>32888399
I forgot you NEETs dont watch sports. Paul Pierce's nickname was "The Truth". I'll assume you can infer what that means.
>>32888447
Kys, learn english or you can go back over the wall too.

>>32888563
so you're a nigger? Also, hard to type with one hand. cat loves sleeping across my arm.

>>32888598
I'm not sure where you're getting nigger from, but you have to go back.

>>32874161
Ballistol.

>>32877153

If you watch the weapon shield video, slip gets BTFO.

>>32878018

Detergents also make it easy to clean the gun.

>>32882830

Literally canned mineral oil with some organic acids which allow it to emulsify in water, you can buy a quart of mineral oil for $4, or buy the 6 oz of ballistol for $8 a can.

>>32875111
You don't keep your rifle hugged up near your body do you? I mean, pistols for CC, sure, but in the cold if a pistol or rifle is exposed to the frigid air you'll need a thinner lube.

>>32875125
Which machine oil do you prefer?

>>32876158
What the fuck

>>32889134
Mobil DTE Light which isn't that cheap but I also use it for my air tools.

I stole some CLP from the military

I used motor oil as well.

It honesty makes no difference

Cleaning shit:
Boretech carbon remover
Boretech copper remover
Brake cleaner
Boretech jags
Carbon fiber cleaning rod

Oiling shit:
Slip 2000
Ballistol
Aeroshell 6

>>32887170
I recently decided I've been here long enough. So why not?

motor oils are made to handle high loads at their operating temperatures, so they provide good hydrodynamic lubrication.
you dont need that in a gun. I can see machine lubricants being better for gun use.

I wish someone made a test comparing different non gun oils for lubrication.

The thing I know people use are sewing machine oil chainsaw oil, and good ol 5w50.

I'm not that knowledgable about the oils itself, but youd want an oil that will provide boundry lubrication at the right temperature ranges.

the corrosion resistance and cleaning is a whole other chapter that I have no clue about other than empirical tests

>>32890242
thinking about it, I heard someone talking about, food factory machine lubricants. going to look into it.
they are highly corrosive resistant, light and non toxic, the question is their oxidation resistance.

Anyone ever use that silicone spray lubricant like they have for motorcycle chains? It leaves a film and seems like it'd be good for stuff like bolt carrier/receiver rail interfaces.

>>32890242
>>32890282
yeah, food-processing lubrication is the way to go,
I'll ltry to find a supplier here in norway to test some.
>>32889646
mobil DTE anon got it right.
maybe I'll hook up a suplier and make some EU grade liberal tears

>>32890282
ballistol is food grenade oil but it hardens into a resin

>>32891050
ballistol is not synthetic

>>32876275
>The German military ran off the stuff in both world wars.

That's not exactly the best track record.

>>32875968
Get Astrolube, poorfag.
Mineral oil is harder ro wash off.

>>32876067
You
Stupid
Fuck.

Yes, the combustion chamber contains the flame. But the two areas that need the additives in motor oriole are the piston ring two cylinder interfaces and the cam lobe's. They have high loads and small surface areas that hydrodynamic lubrication will not help

>>32877096
Coconut oil will turn to paste in cold temperatures. Also it will oxidize faster. If that's OK for you, go for it.

>>32885593
God, NO!
And engine really really needs all those additives. You will flatten your cams and wear your cylinders smooth and all kinds of shit if you try to use a non-compounded oil in an engine.

>>32888781
What they call detergents in motor oil is not soap like you would use to clean with.

>>32890242
I like how you're using the term "boundary lubrication" in your post, but there are no boundary lubrication regimes in a firearm.

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>>32874161

I use this stuff for a thick lube. Slickest god damn shit you can buy.

>>32893879
its excactly what happens, the slide does not move fast enough with enough load to let the oil do its job, thats why you really need grease, or chemical additives in the oil to prevent wear.
motor oil does not have those additives since its made for hydrodynamic and hydrostatic lubrication

>>32893894
I guarantee you that's just lithium soap grease.

>>32891655
They didn't lose because their guns jammed though. It's a testament to Ballistol that their over engineered weapons were as reliable as they were. Ballistol is still better than the cheap CLP the military issues today.

>>32874161
just use canola oil

>>32894118

Is that bad?

>>32895348
for your health it is....

>>32895362

Explain.

>>32894118

>does not contain lithium

http://www.tetraguncare.com/gun-care-faqs/

Clean with cheap gun oil of any kind, sometimes brake cleaner or other specialty solvents for restorations. Lube with 50/50 cheap gun oil and moly oil or just plain 10w-30.

>>32875016
I lube all my guns with froglube, long term, and have never had this happen.

I only use BreakFree CLP for cleaning and lubing, shit works great if you clean after each range trip, my only beef with it is that the stuffs fucking poison, I always get tired and get bad heartburn after being around it