H&K Scar Clone

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H&K?

More like H&Johnny-come-lately's

We are nearing the singularity of small arms optimization, it pretty much comes down to ARs and various short stroke piston rifles, and piston ARs

>>32873709
Whats your excuse for not using the catalog and posting in the thread we already have up about this gun? Is it because you're a stupid fuck?

>>32873709
>tiny boot
Haha. Scar is more aesthetic desu.

>>32873709
>What's your excuse for not owning the best rifle of the 21st century?

I don't like H&K and I honestly prefer the CZ805

The H&K pistolgrip is retarded and the angle is weird.

>>32873829
The angle is to facilitate more comfort when shooting with a short LOP

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>>32873709

my money is on aug 15 with quick detach barrel

>>32873859
Yea fuck polymer lowers. Real 7075 receivers instead of soft 6061.

>>32873709
I just can't justify the price honestly. Guns are but one of my expensive hobbies, I could buy most of another motorcycle for the cost of a SCAR.

>>32873709
>What's your excuse for not owning the best rifle of the 21st century?

I'm Canadian, we aren't allowed to have them because they look too scary

>>32873709
>HK433
>Budget alternative to the HK416
Literal proof the SCAR and the current gen of polymer AR-18 rip offs are just budget guns for poorfags. FNH is just smart enough to rip everyone off.

>>32873956
>buying the SCAR L

>>32873965
>>>>SCAR L
>it's the "SCAR 16 is a pointless purchase" meme again

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>>32873709

>>32873983
No. Just saying what he >>32873956
Said only applies to the 16s. 17s is not overpriced for it's class and weight.

>>32873983
Not a meme when it's true.
It's even more pointless when the only reason FNH still produces it is because charging $2500 for a 5.56 carbine is more profitable than charging ~$1,500 for a 17 to 16 conversion package.

>>32873821
Oh, the recoil on that is so smooth.
I'd rank the CZ805 before the SCAR-L, but the SCAR-H before the CZ805 honestly.

>>32873859
I wonder how good Steyr's chances are of winning that new German Military contract with that rifle.

>>32873983
There are a lot of rifles that do 5.56 better than the SCAR-L.
The genius of the SCARs engineering is honestly lost on the SCAR-L.
I doubt you can find a better rifle in 7.62 than the SCAR-H though.

>>32873998
Sixty percent of that gun's mass has no reason to be there.

>>32874310
>SCAR-L
>SCAR-H
>>SCAR-L
>>SCAR-H
How to: Spot a meme spouting Wikipedia kiddo and instantly lose respect for anything he posts

>>32874292

if it can quick barrel swap between a 14.5" and 20" barrel and remain reliable with most military grade loads, i'd imagine it's pretty damn good

>>32874480
I agree, how don't you know that FN calls the 5.56 NATO SCAR the SCAR-L and the 7.62 NATO SCAR the SCAR-H.

>>32875110
They call it a number of things.
People who own them tend call them the 16 or 16s and 17 or 17s. Those are the models of the rifles that are for sale to the general public. Its the terminology on the owners manual.

Armchair pontificators tend to refer to them as the L and H

>>32875163
>autism
He's referring to the military version. So he's correct even in the most technical sense. Pls stop being triggered.

>>32875280
The military versions are the Mk16 and Mk17...

>>32875301
Only the Navy retard. Only Navy uses Mark for their rifles.

>>32875301
alternative facts?

>>32875280
they'd still be mk16 and mk17

>>32875163
is doing his part calling out underage and noguns

>>32875317
What is the Mk20 called then?
Is the Mk19 something else? Im pretty sure everyone calls it the Mk19

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>>32875301

SCAR-L/H are applicable designations to all SCAR's.

Mk16/17 is the U.S. Military designation for their rifles.

SCAR 16/17 is FN USA/FN America nomenclature for select fire agency sale rifles.

SCAR 16S/17S are the commercial rifle designations exclusive to FN America.

SCAR-L and SCAR-H are the model designations for all other SCAR sales including semi-auto commercial sales in Europe. Pic related.

TL;DR: You don't know what the fuck you're talking about so please just shut the fuck up.

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>>32875475
brutal

The buis are not integrated and pop up from the top rail.

>>32874313
Its mostly durability.

>from all the rookies dying and dropping it

>>32875517
This is a feature

>>32875337
>>32875342
Notice I said "rifles?" Nothing in my statement has been incorrect. We were talking about rifles weren't we? Yes the Navy also designate other small arms like handguns with Mk. (23, 24, 25..). Marines are snowflakes and use M designations like the Army. Mk19 is a special case, because it was created by the Navy and adopted by the Army.

Afaik, the Mk20 is only used by SOCOM in the US. They are speshul, so they can call it Belgian Waffle for all I care.

The Army didn't fully adopt the SCAR, so I don't know if there's a M designation. The US military is not the only military in the world. The correct FN designations are SCAR L and H. Go read your wikipedia and play COD you kiddies.

>>32875543
see
>>32875475

>>32875550
What? We said the same thing. I only elaborated a little on the Mk. vs M designations.

>>32875543
>The Army didn't fully adopt the SCAR

Actually they did. Both the Mk16, Mk17, along with the Mk13 passed Milestone C or OE/OS approval for individual unit acquisition. SOCOM elected to defund their continued procurement of Mk16's however any unit may still opt to purchase them with their own resources.

>>32875596
So which part of "fully" do you not agree with?
SCAR was a SOCOM program right? And Rangers are under SOCOM? I guess by Army I meant Rangers.

>>32875543
sure either one could be right, but calling it H and L usually indicate underage nogun and they don't belong on /k/, or any boards for that matter

>>32875730
What? We just proved you wrong. How does calling a gun by it's correct name tell you someone his age? So if I say "M4A1," am I underage? I am confused. Are your psychic abilities usually more accurate?
Sounds like you're underageb& for being this dumb desu.

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>>32875725

The SCAR-L was fully adopted. It just wasn't fully fielded. There's a significant difference between the two.

>>32875730
>i was just pretending to be retarded

SHUT.
THE.
FUCK.
UP.

>>32875767
but m4a1 is the us military designation and that' makes it wrong according to your logic because colt calls it ar15

>>32875788
replied to the wrong person bud

The autism with the SCAR nomenclature is strong.

>>32874313
but then it wouldnt look futuristic anon

>>32875801
Nigger there are TDP differences that make an m4a1 different from an AR15. Let alone the FULL AUTO SWITCH.
Pls kys you are wasting air.

>>32873709
>best rifle of the 21st century
>it's been 17 years

>>32875944
Best pistol of the 20th didnt come out in 1982, you have got a point.

>>32875941
please enlighten me like the retard that i am on how you differentiate a m4a1 and an ar15

>>32876004
I told you. FULL AUTO SWITCH, 3rd pin. Anything else would be getting real autistic about military TDP.

>>32876004
AR-15 is the pattern or family, the Colt 920 is the model, and M4/M4A1 is the military's designation.

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>>32876014
So a fire control group?

>>32876014
so there's no possible way that a lower marked AR15 could have a third pin hole

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>>32876046
We all know an AR-15 can have an auto sear axis pin hole.

>>32876021
>>32876046
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=M4a1+vs+ar15
>arguing semantics
Kys

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There is a lot of butthurt in this thread

>>32876071
no you

>>32876004
i used to work for someone that had the TDP. to my memory the differences are:

1. specific barrel profiles allowed
2. stock is 2 position or 4 position, with 4 position being current
3. receiver extension forged (not extruded) and threaded normally, but then the rest of the tube is milled down to final OD
4. hardness testing required, as well as other testing
5. lower receiver has particular markings and is a machinegun (typically) with extra machining and parts.
6. specific requirements for accessories, packaging, et c
7. particular requirements for materials and specific valid subcontractors, contractors, vendors, and suppliers.

>>32876123
>i used to work for someone that had the TDP
If I make a rifle that meets the TDP it's no longer an AR-15? Yea, that's nonsensical. The design's name is AR-15.

>>32873753
>impossible to find a decent 5.56 rifle with a folding stock that doesn't cost my entire poorfag bank account.
gee whiz, I sure love AR clones. I could sure use a million more of those

>>32876168
i never said that. the TDP is an outlay of how to make a specific weapon; multiple TDP's exist and you can build to that spec and use it's verifications to assure that your manufacturing process and final product meets that spec. at that point you have built whatever the hell the TDP says it is - an M16A2, an M4A1, a Mk 3 HEDP rocket, et c.

between my AR-15 and the ones we used to build, there are nontrivial differences between them.

>>32876168
Stoner made AR-15, Army took it and made M16, then M4 to their specs. They have minor to major differences. For example, modern receivers use 7075 T6 aluminum for the M4, while AR-15 has no TDP. Anyone can make an "ar-15" pattern rifle. A lot of commercial manufacturers use cheaper 6061 aluminum. The higher end "Ar-15s" copy the M4 TDP or improve upon it. Next you're going to tell me they all scary black rifles firing 500 rounds per second with the shoulder things that go up because they look the "same." Educate yourself nigger.

>>32876259
>Stoner made AR-15, Army took it and made M16, then M4 to their specs. They have minor to major differences.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.