Pistol cal Carbines

this is mainly something Id like for hiking, plinking, maybe as a trunk gun

if you take into account price per round, i think that takes 45 out of the running IMO.
i vastly prefer 9mm but in a carbine, 40 would be ok as well.
as far as possible rifles off the top of my head: the mech tech (and other glock) conversions, AR styled pcc, just right carbines, kel tec sub2000, and the kirss vector

>>32859804

The only quality PCC that takes Glock mags currently is the Vector.

I have an MPX currently and love it, but mags are expensive. 1000rds through it so far without a failure.

>>32859880

low quality bait, you overdid it

trolling is a art

No.32859880 Already have a 556, just want a pistol carbine to go with the full size handgun I want to buy

>>32859888
Kriss is a little bulky, and heavy for what I need but great suggestion

>>32859861
I really just need to figure out which would have the best ballistics in a carbine, price isnt a huge concern for me

>>32859976

I'd really recommend the MPX then - the sb-tactical collapsible brace is decent but keeps your handgun status for travel - something you shouldn't overlook in your search as well if you're wanting to use it as a truck gun.

It's also one of the only non-blowback options out right now. I've shot the MPX, Scorpion, MP5, and 9mm and 45acp Vector, and the MPX is by far the lightest recoil.

I'm shilling at this point, get what you want, but don't get something shitty like an AR9.

>>32859804
>Cheapest
>AR9
You can piece together a PSA 9mm AR for sub $600-700. You can use either the glock or colt lower
>Keltec Sub2k
Can easily be found for sub $500 takes pretty much any mag under the sun and it folds.

>Gucci
>MP5 clones
Turk clones can be had for $1400+ they come with 3 mags and can be shockwave bladed to avoid the NFA
>MPX
It's an MPX the bundle isn't as good and it's new mags, but a good gun none the less

>Mid Tier
>Evo
Takes new mags, has some issues, but gets a lot of press and can be found for $700 easy
>CX4
Takes either 92fs or PX4 mags. An adapter to convert the PX4 variant to 92fs is available for $20. Fun gun works well and can be had for $500-700.

>>32860049
price point on an MPX with the collapsible brace?

>>32860093
Greater than 1k.

>>32860084
Awesome comprehensive! thanks

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Does anyone know if that new collapsible """ brace""" for the mpx will fit an mp5 clone
Asking for a friend

>>32860122
I don't believe it will because the cuts for the stock probably won't match, but there are other options https://www.sb-tactical.com/

any one know anything similar to the Roni civilian but less bulky?

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>>32859804

>>32860412
lel

>>32860002
If your primary concern is ballistics and not plinking/cross compatibility with your sidearm then you might wanna look for a 10mm PCC or maybe one that can handle .460 rowland if there is such a thing. Of course that really begs the question of why PCC and not a carbine of some sort. If it has to be one of the big three calibers then you're gonna see more velocity gain with the 9mm, very little with the .45, and a moderate amount with the .40. Frankly though, i think anyone down range is going to be pretty hard pressed to notice a difference.

This website has a pretty good amount of info on the effect of barrel length on various calibers

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/calibers.html

>>32859804
I second this >>32860412
I remember that it was only going to be a couple hundred dollars.

>>32860122

she is perfect. I seriously can't envision what I find attractive anymore than that photo right there.

>>32860701
She's a fuckin whore dude
Get some standards dude

>>32860550
Awesome! thanks for the info, I already have a carbine in 556 and just wanted one that could pair with a handgun

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>>32860122
Oh shit guys

>>32859888
I have a Kel-tec first generation, about 2k rounds through it and it's been fine.

>>32859888
You are wrong. There are quite a few that do that including AR9, Sub2k and 9mm AKs

>>32860701
That makes me sad for you.
Some faceless chic with meh body that posing with a gun. Christ anon

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>>32859804
Chambered in 460 Rowland for POWAH, but it will cycle regular .45 acp all day too.

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>>32860093
>>>32860049
>price point on an MPX with the collapsible brace?

Not quoted poster but
1100+ 250 for the brace, although I think I got the last $1100 mpx on the Internet.

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>>32859804
9mm AR that takes Glock mags.

SBR if you're that way

KRISS Vector in your choice of caliber if you want to be cool

>>32860122
No.
It attaches with a vertical picatinny rail and the it's fairly precisely made to recess into the receiver cuts on the mpx.

For an mp5 fake sbr I tend to favor the folding ar stock+ shockwave look.

Sb did just make a folding brace for the evo that looks nice, I don't know if their is an mp5 version

>>32859804
A warning about the Beretta Cx4: the trigger is absolute shit.

Them Battlestar aesthetics tho

>>32864802
but anon, you posted a colt mag AR9.

>>32864936
I know, it's mine. I don't have a Glock but if OP does then he could benefit from something similar that takes Glock mags.
PSA makes both lowers for cheap

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MPX if you want best of the best.

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Does anyone else want one of those new Lindas? No one on /k/ seems to mention them? Going to email them sometime this week because i want to know if theyll ship a CA legal version. I like the way it looks except for the stock which im going to switch out for an ak underfolder

If you want something for hiking get a Sub2k gen2 in glock mags.

>>32860412
I'm enjoying every day that goes by without one of these threads solidifying it's failure.

>>32865019
I don't own an MPX, but I've shot and handled them.
They're far from the best of the best and it's laughable to suggest they are.

>>32865145
I've seen an anon here who has one but that might've just been a J&R
At any rate I don't know enough of about either of them
But they do look cool

>>32864994
> colt mag lower: out of stock
> carbine length 9mm upper: out of stock

Wtf PSA, make shit faster

>>32864044
That is really cool, anon.

What is it?

>>32865832
What the actual fuck.

Welp, I do not know how I managed to write that long ass post and then stick it in the wrong damn thread, please ignore my retarded ass.

>>32859804
Get a CX4, never look back. Beretta 92 mags will cost you a bag of peanuts for a handful of mags at any gunshow. Takes 30 round mags too.

You'll never look back, the gun performs as well as any intermediate caliber rifle out to 200 yards.

>>32865191
oh wise one, how are they not?

>all metal construction
>LRBHO
>Caliber swap
>AR ergos
>AR grips, selectors, and trigger groups
>non blowback piston driven action.
>rotating locking bolt
>inexpensive mags by Lancer

Whats the best PCC then?

>>32867761
Mp5 and tp9 beat the snot out of that proprietary AR.

>>32867970
>no LRBHO
>shitty trigger pull

its called advancement of technology. Just because something is decades old doesn't mean it always going to be the best. Look at the 1911 for instance. Great back in the day but laughable as anything other than a range toy in this age.

>>32865735
Mech Tech carbine like in the OP

>>32868207
Sorry I didn't know gassing you in the face and being unnecessarily heavy was advancement of technology.

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>>32859804
You need different guns for 9/40 and 45, anon.
>>32859888
>vector
>quality
lol. Okay, we'll pretend a semi auto vector has a reason to exist.

>>32868207
I guess that's why it is THE competition pattern these days.

Seriously, nobody cares about 'fighting guns'. Find your sports niche and invest in the best hardware you can get for it. For gofast pistol shooting, that's the 1911 and 2011-likes.

Does anyone know if current Mech-Tec CCUs fit old XD9s? I'd like one for my XD since I don't carry it and I'll be picking up a built 1911 for competing, leaving it to gather dust. 147gr out of a 16" barrel hardly even requires earpro.

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>>32860701

>>32865145
>CA legal version
> "Sorry, but we're not shipping flintlocks to the People's Republic of Kalifornia, until we find out what's legal over there. :)"

SAID EVERY ONLINE GUN STORE EVER

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>>32860122
These guys make one
https://www.sb-tactical.com/

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the Evo has been one of my best purchases to date

>Fairly Cheap
>Exceedingly reliable (in my experience)
>Eats pretty much all ammo types
>Light
>Compact
>Good shooter
>Accurate
>Cheap and readily available mags (Compared to the MPX)

The market is continuing to embrace it, and there are more and more aftermarket things being added every day.

My experience is with the Pistol variant (Form 1 should be back this week) with the Shockwave Brace, but I'd wager the carbines are all the above, just a bit longer.

Torn between the Zhukov+Adapter, or the CZ Stock

>>32859804
9mm is the best route since you can shoot it for cheap but if ou need to use it IRL there are some really good 9mm rounds you can get that has identical ballistics to quality 40 rounds. 45 is a meme in this day and age. I have Gen 2 Sub2K that I love but finding one in 9mm for under $600 is impossible and the gun isn't worth more than $450 anyway, they are good guns even though they are Meme Tec. You can;t go wrong with Mech Tech but for about the same amount of money, you can build a PSA 9mm AR. I finally got the last of my parts in and will be assembling mine this weekend. If you want to do it on the cheap, watch PSA for their all to frequent sales and get a blem 9mm Glock mag lower for $225-250 and then order an upper when they go on sale. You can have a running 9mm glock mag carbine w/ sight for $700 quite easily if you watch the sales. The PSA 9mm carbines also have some stellar reviews and there are several YouTube review videos about them now.

>>32860084
CX4's are overpriced ghetto tier trash. I'd buy a Hi Point before I'd waste triple the money on an inferior gun (the CX4).

>>32860122
No. tell your friend to buy this or one of the similar variants that SB sells.

https://www.sb-tactical.com/product/sb-5/

>>32860701
>can't even see the face
>she's perfect

You stink of virgin and unwashed cum rags.

>>32864903
>A warning about the Beretta Cx4: the entire gun is absolute shit.

FTFY

>>32870797
>>32870763
show me on the doll where the CX4 touched you

>>32865145
holy shit that looks like the Soviet's made a Hi Point and slapped a stock on it.

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>>32870815

>>32859804
MP5 imports when?
Or maybe the government could sell us some of the thousands they have lying around?
MP5 for CMP

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>>32859804
No contest. Might have to deal with NFA, but its worth it for glorious combloc steel.

>>32871039
>Might have to deal with NFA

a small tack weld on the stock attaching it to the top of the receiver fixes that problem.

>>32871071
Well mine is currently in pistol form. I gotta wait for the ATF to be generous and bless me with an approval.

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Build a 9mm AR. No, seriously.

Get one of these KE Arms 9mm lowers, a MAS Defense upper, and go to town.

>>32871039
>retard long
>still has tiny barrel

>>32871096
To be fair though..... how would they ever find out if you didn't bother? Fuck it.

>>32871246
t. ATF Agent

>>32870763
They are admittedly simple guns with a large price, but they are still good guns and are worth a purchase.

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>SIG wants $50 for gen 1 mpx mags

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>>32871246
paws up don't shoot

>>32871241
>Tiny Barrel=9.8in
Uhuh, sure...

>>32871246
Because I'll be shooting it at a range where they will check my papers before I shoot. Plus if I get stopped by the cops and I have it in my vehicle. I'll wind up in a jail cell getting really well acquainted with Bubba.

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If you arent buying an mp5 you are buying the wrong fucking pcc

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>>32864044
Any thoughts on it? Pros or cons?

>>32872815
hi tay

>>32870738
Zhukov adapter

>>32873691
zenith?

>>32873721
this is a big one here
>https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_48/345636_Mech_Tech_handgun_uppers___Important_BATFE_ruling_on_page_2__.html

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>>32874056
PAKI
A
K
I

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>Kel-Tec Sub-2000 (9mm/.40, takes Glock/S&W59/M92 mags)

But if you want more oomph, I highly recommend the .30 M1 carbine. If you want a lot more oomph in a smaller package, then go build yourself a 10mm HK MP5/10.

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>>32873940

>>32874140

I tore through a bunch of those threads on ar15 til I cam across the following.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/ruling/2011-4-pistols-configured-rifles-rifles-configured-pistols/download

Above is a pdf. From what I understand from reading it it negates an problems from a pistol back to rifle to pistol. Can anyone translate?

>>32873721
I like mine, the only problem I have is the 460 rowland occasionally cracks case mouths, but it's accurate and reliable enough. I'd trust it out to at least 50 yards.

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>>32870782
>>32862629
>>32860734
>>32860122

nah

nah, she's pretty good from the front, too

>>32859804
Hipoint with the new high towe armory stock when it comes out .

Hey does anyone know of a good carbine or rifle in .357?

>>32874949
Who is this semen-demon?

>>32875067

filename.wtf

>>32875090
Okay, any more pictures of her? I ask for science.

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>>32875126
Looks like there are.

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>>32875375
and so

>>32860084
You can also do a 92 mag AR, and so long as it has the mag catch cut and it's long enough a PPQ mag will work in a 92 mag well: sub2k, cx4, 92, etc.
In fact so many mags are 92 based that keltec now calls their 92 grip "multimag".

>>32864802
What handguard is that?

>>32859804
I recommend 9mm simply because a PCC is mostly just going to be a plinking gun, and you want to be able to buy a shit ton of cheap ammo.

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>>32874236
>>32873691
Brothers

>>32876297
Too bad that cobra logo means you can't hit shit with it.

>>32876965
Hey man so long as I can hit the Baroness I don't give a fuck.

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>>32864802
16 inch is surprisingly handy.

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>less than $1,000
>folding stoc- I mean brace
>Lightweight
>Reliable
>Inexpensive magazines

For the money and dedicated purpose, it's reaaaaally fucking hard to beat an Evo 3 with an SB Tactical folding brace. It's the next gun on my wish list

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Got a work bonus and pulled the trigger on one of these in 357

Its legally confusing status and my love for SAAs made me have to have it. Handguns are regulated where im at.

>>32872815
They pop up on sale online for as low as $23 each. Hell I got a 3-pack with a triple mag pouch for $60.

>>32868340
>gas to the face meme
found the guy who hasn't actually shot a suppressed MPX

>>32868667
You seem upset ICE favored the MPX over any other PCC

>>32865179
The guy behind it got a seven day ban last weekend, expect him to start the threads up again in a couple days.

>>32859804
On the underside of your refrigerator there is a switch. Reach under there and feel for it. Don't mind the dust clumps and the roaches. You'll know it when you feel it, it's a hard metal tab sticking out of a slot in the plastic underside. I will be set on the righthand side (when you're facing the fridge). If you switch it to the left, nothing will happen. Your appliances will continue to run, the floor won't open into a swirling vortex that leads directly into the deepest circle of hell. You won't even hear a hitch in the hum of the refrigerator. You will get up and brush off and go about your business, you may move out of your apartment and leave the refrigerator behind, switch set to the left like it doesn't even matter.

When you die, five years later, the fingers, toes, and eyes of an unidentified person will be found in your stomach.

The PSA is good

>>32877962
Is the verdict out on whether the brace blocks the ejection port? Video I saw yesterday of the brace made it looks like it might have issues with it folded.

>>32877995
How do you like it? I had a chance at one of these some time ago and bitched out because it was in .45 Colt and ammo is kind of expensive in Northern Snow Land without reloading. I feel pangs of regret when I see these.

Knowing they make these in .357 though I might have to price out one at a shop some day when I have an extra 1,000 to blow. Fuck Canadian prices suck sometimes.

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B&T APC-9 if you've got $2000

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>>32859804
Out of all the options I chose to build an AR9 due to price and customization.

>side charging for shooting suppressed
>Threaded 8.0" Barrell
>mlok fore end
>Glock mags
>lrbho

I've shot about 500 shitty reloads through it with no issues after the first mag.

Bump fires 30 rounds no problem

>>32877995

Damn, that's the ugliest piece of shit I've seen on this site.

Do they make a carbine conversion for the Beretta 92?

>>32883482
>ywn own a 93r
Feels badman

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>>32883842
>93r
I was actually happier not knowing that it existed.

>>32883903
Then you will be happier not knowing that of six steel and one titanium in existence, Joshua Prince owns the one titanium and two of the steel.
Oops.

>>32881389
Ill have a report when I pick it up from my FFL monday.

>>32865164
Will the sub2k g2 handle +p now?
>I want to be able to use buffalo bore

>>32878743
No shit? Story please!

Fuck plm or whatever that douchebag goes by

>>32873691
>>32874236
How do the Paki clones compare to the Zenith ones?