/meg/

I ship out to San Diego in like 6 weeks and haven't gotten my MOS chosen. Just last week my recruiter asked me to come in to choose my MOS, but then that job (and the others) became full.

What am I supposed to do? I don't really want to go Communications (its the only thing available according to him).

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If you ain't coast guard you ain't shit.

>>32854056

kek

In /k/'s opinion what is the most likely scenario for a shooting war in the next four years?

>>32854315
Iran.

>>32854337
That was kind of my thought after reading about them refusing to use the dollar anymore. ME nations have a bad record of U.S. intervention/ CIA backed revolutions when they shit on the dollar/central banking.

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Taking the plunge to talk to a recruiter at the 20th SFG in FL. 24 years old, bachelor degree in International Relations.
Anyone have any experience with NG SF?

>>32854369
I may be wrong about this but,

I heard they bombed someone today. I think it may have been a naval vessel of some kind. And Trump announced that we now have a sanction on them. So I think any likely conflict will be with them, and possibly soon.

>>32854419
I go to basic as 03xx for USMC on March 20. Shit may get more interesting than I'd anticipated

>>32854439
Yeah Infantry is open but my recruiter is not happy with my run time (14 min 1 1/2 mile) to let me go Infantry. But PT tomorrow so I might be down to 13.

I ship out March 13th.

>>32854439
shit thought that was a reply to my post bout MOS's and not about Iran

oh well

Air Force IT nerd/meme collector here.
3D1X2 for those that care.

Answering any questions about AF cyber, or any AF questions in general.

>>32853627
>>Discord
Into the trash it goes.

>>32854461
Damn that is my run time, and I think I suck at running. Gotta put more work into it bro. Im not shipping soon like you though. Good luck.

>>32853627
Ausfag here. I want to join the reserves, but I'm not sure if I should go officer, or if I should go in as a soldier and try to become an officer later in life. I'm in uni at the moment, and also want to travel at some point, hence my indecision. I asked reddit ages back, but they basically gave me a spiel about how if I didn't know I wasn't ready, etc

So what do you guys think? Which is more compatible with uni life, and which would enable me to be away for a few days at a time (probably no more than a week at a time; I'd likely be able to fit it in between a Wednesday and Monday so I could still make it to a TUesday night parade).

Anyone on here 19k? I can never find any tankers on here. I've got questions about training and day to day stuff.

1812 is cool too but I'm looking at the army mostly.

>>32854397
>National Guard Special Forces
What the fuck

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>>32854056
my sides

>>32858486
For a couple of years in the late 80's or early 90's there was a USAR Special Forces Group.

19th and 20th Groups are National Guard US Army Special Forces groups. From the guys I've talked to they tend to be deployed or on TDY pretty regularly and a guy from the 20th Group unit in north Florida got into CAG relatively recently.

whos the anon shipping to navy boot on the 7th?

see you at ohare maybe

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>>32858429
Not a tanker yet. Just locked down my job at the recruiters yesterday. I'm fucking excited for this shit.

Hey, Im already enlisted, but I have a question about a school im going too. Im going to be attending Small Arms Master Gunner course. can anyone tell me what this course will be like besides learn about and shooting weapons. Thanks.

>>32855953
How much gay porn/gay porn related problems do you encounter on a daily basis?

>>32854315
The ongoing war in Chiraq. Best solution is berm around it then level every grid square by bombardment.

>>32858726
You're literally the first tanker I've seen on here and I've been lurking for about a year. Hope everything goes well for you, I've heard it's a great MOS.

>>32858726
You will be until you realize how much it sucks.

Can they see your medical records for TS clearance? Do they call past doctors?

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I ship for BCT in April. I'm joining the Guard. My wife is covered by the medical insurance at my job. I know my job needs to hold my position, but will my wife be alright, or will she be uninsured while I'm gone?

I'm sick of the Air Force. I'm going to enjoy my next two years in Germany and get in shape then go blue to green. If I'm going to be in the military I want to be fighting

>>32860064
It's the army

I'm done. My recruiter has been dicking me around for about 7 months now. Still haven't gone to MEPS.

How do I change branches?
Do I need to tell my current recruiter or just go somewhere else and they deal with it?

>>32860306
Shes going to gain 300 pounds, get pregnant, and constantly hound you about when the next paycheck is coming.

>>32855953
Do you know how to move your arms when you walk? How pathetic is your stature?

What branches have the best chances of having your own room after PT?
Also best/safest jobs.

I just listened to Alex Jones on Rogans podcast.

I'm starting to feel woke.

Would that hurt me from potentially getting a higher security clearance or a commission down the road in my career?

>>32862280
Fucking stop alex jones is tin foil trash.
It should be a thing to get ur SC rejected for that shit.

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Why didn't doze SEALs jus shoot duh gurl in duh leg?

This poor daughter of an Al Qaeda leader would have only grown up to spread goodness through the world.

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>>32861469
> im a pussy what do i have to do to make sure i stay a pussy

>>32855953
>AF cyber
I thought the army only did cyber.
Why does the AF have a cyber program to?
What do you do?

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Asvab got cancelled today

>>32863812
For your High School? Or at your Recruiters?

my little brother skipped the first two classes of HS today just so he wouldn't have to retake the Asvab.

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>>32863831
Recruiter. One passed away and two others quit.

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>>32863849
oh holy shit man

sorry bout that, did your recruiter bite the dust?

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>>32863884
>sorry bout that, did your recruiter bite the dust?
Nope.
Asvab got rescheduled to next week.

Finished my basic last week. Thanks for the tips fags.

>>32863934
Branch?

I ship out in 39 days for USMC boot, I could use some tips.

>>32863977
Be the loudest out of everyone. You will get fucked up no matter what, but if you are loud as fuck then you get screwed with less. If you mess up something, but scream your ass off then the DI's will most likely just yell at you instead of IT you. Don't touch your nasty ass face either.

>>32864125
at PT every week they are already teaching us to be as loud as possible.

How is it physically? Before I became a poolee a month ago I had never ran before in my life, and have never been very physically fit. I'm doing much better now but I'm still worried that I might not be physically prepared.

>>32864874
If it's anything like Air Force PT (and I don't mean in terms of workload, obviously Marine Corps PT is more intense) you should be alright since it's structured to improve your fitness throughout those thirteen weeks

>>32859233
Not many gay porn incidents since there aren't many Navy guys here.

>>32861406
>Do you know how to move your arms when you walk?
No. I only have so many motor neurons, and I can only move one body part at a time, much like a sloth
>How pathetic is your stature?
I'm 6'3, 210 lbs, a pretty respectable stature. I'm gonna assume you meant posture, which is also good. If you have poor posture and sit at a desk all day, you're going to fuck your neck and back.

>>32863541
Each branch has their own network that they need to defend and maintain.
I work on routers and switches making sure that bases stay connected.

>>32861469
Assuming this isn't some low quality b8...
In the AF you'll have your own room once you finish BMT and Tech Training. PT is done with your squadron, usually just easy stuff to make sure you can pass your PT test.

Most jobs in the Navy/AF are going to be safe, as long as you don't choose something stupid like Security Forces or Master at Arms (AF and Navy versions of MPs).

>>32863520
He's not stupid if he's considering a career. Ya'll shit all over the AF/CG for having the best quality of life, and then immediately separate once your four years are done.

>>32864874
>>32864908
Keep in mind, that by the time you get to boot camp, the DoD has spent a boatload of money on you. It's not designed to fail you, but you have to put in work.

How's Aircraft Armament Systems reputation and work like?

>>32864944
It's not a bad job, but not cushy either.
You deal with the weapons on the airframes, from loading them to maintaining the actual things (i.e. bombs, missiles) that go on the jets.

Your work life is dependent on where you get stationed, some places screw their maintainers while others work a standard shift.

>>32864908
>>32864939
Hm. Well what exercises would help me in boot? Preferably ones that aren't on the IST/PFT.

also just signed a Communications contract today, hope I get field radio operator. But what are some good/bad jobs in the comms field?

>>32865009

What about the transition from enlisted to civilian careers?

>>32865110
Not the best... not many airlines are dropping bombs.

If you're interested in civillian carry-over, look at:
>Cyber
>Intel
>CE jobs like HVAC, Electrical
>Crew Chief or Hydro, work for an airline
>ATC (super high washout rate)

I'm cyber, and we have guys getting out after 4 years and making $80k+.
You have to put in some outside learning and work, though, but the opportunity is there.

I know intel people getting picked up for $100k contracts. Any job that you get a TS is valuable, since you can get hired on that alone.

>>32865067
Literally just do those. Its all endurance. Add some rucking or biking to keep it interesting. 60-120s all the time, add distance runs at least once a week.

Anyone make it through to the ADF pilot aptitude testing?

If so what did it consist of?

>>32865203

Wanted to go HVAC, but recruiter pulled a fast "not final" contract. I put it on my contract, but its not what the Air Force needs.

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I just turned 21. I did 2 years of college and then dropped out because I couldn't decide what I wanted to do.

Should I enlist in the air force or should I finish my bachelors so I can be an officer?

>>32865636
OTS is harder than BMT, and while you can almost always enlist, you're not ensured a commission. Enlisted life is easier, and depending on what you like, you actually do the work. Officers almost exclusively manage.

OTOH, officers make money. Even as a O-1 butterbar with less than 2 years, you'll be making about as much as an E-5 with 6 years in. It gets sweeter from there, as an O-2 with 4 years is making more than a E-7 with 20 years in. The promotion to O-2 is automatic. If you can hack it for 20 years, it's a very sweet deal. Once you get to the higher ranks, though, officers are kind of underpaid for the sort of responsibility that they have.

You can enlist, finish your degree, and then apply to OTS every year until you're 33 or something. Make sure that you score well on the AFOQT, and get your degree in something technical. A liberal arts degree does meet the requirement, but your package will be overlooked for the guy with a EE degree.

Or, you could go back to school and do the AF's 3 year ROTC program, where you will commission at the end of it. I don't know if this is the right choice for you though, since you aren't sure about school. While you're enlisted you'll earn good money and get school paid for.

>>32865469
If you don't want the job, I would wait.

Respectfully tell the recruiter that you do want to join, but you're not going to get dicked on your job choice, because that really defines your experience.

Put down electrical, HVAC, cable & antenna systems, aircraft elec & environment, aerospace ground equipment, missile maint (only if you're OK with minot). These are more hands on careers with outside jobs. If you're cool with being a nerd (like me), put down cyber transport, cyber systems operator, RF trans.

If he can't get you *any* of these jobs, he's dicking you.

>If he can't get you *any* of these jobs, he's dicking you

He made an ultimatum with me today saying it's that or DEP discharge and bye bye chair force. I have to make that decision by tomorrow morning. I already signed the contract which locks the afsc. He never specified what I was signing. I feel like an idiot. I really hate the psyops tactics they use to recruit people.

>>32865968
Thanks, that's pretty helpful. Probably gonna end up enlisting.

>>32866145
It's not a one way street. This is your life too.
Don't feel bad, recruiters can be the scum of the services. Some of them are real straight guys who will work to place you in the best job, others just want numbers and do BS like this.

You should tell him that it was not made clear to you that you were locking yourself in on that job, and you don't want to do it. Tell him that you are willing to enlist, and it's not in his interest to take the DEP loss.

Worst case he boots you from DEP, you go to a different recruiter, and play the game properly this time. It's not bye-bye AF, it's bye-bye dickwad.

>>32866191
Once you get to your first assignment, talk to the officers in your squadron. Ask them about commissioning, and about their duties and job.

Don't take BMT/Tech School into account, as that's just meme shit designed to fuck with you.

>>32854056
where is infantryguy? did he died?

>>32853627
I was PDQed by MEPS for the marines for having shoulders that are too mobile, anyone have any advice on being able to get around this? Don't really care about the branch, just want to join the military

>>32866282

Thanks anon!

What outside skills does a former nuke bring?

Prior service Airborne Infantryman here. I have a degree and middle-management job now, but all I want to do is come back. Civilian life is not the same. Am I forgetting how much Army life sucks? I ETS'd six years ago and I am too old (turned 32 a couple months ago) to go officer--but hey, I can still get my old MOS and rank. How fucked in the head am I? I think I need a reality check. I want to request an Option 40.

I can also answer any questions.

>>32864918
>best quality life
Why did I fall for the memes of the Marine Corps?

>>32867669
Real estate sales bro here. A customer of mine did that, made it to the bat, and was happy as hell. Dude was 45 or so but looked maybe 30. Kept him in perfect shape. If you want it, go get it bro

>>32867918
is ok marin u be ok

>>32867669
If you're able bodied enough to rejoin and still have the spirit, go for it.

As a fat 18yr I wanna lose weight and join the military I cant decide between becoming infantryman or a tanker or going to the air force become an airman for a year then apply for officers college to become a pilot. Please tell me which would be fun as well as possibly a great career. also probably would join swat after military

Alright lads, just got back from an 8k pack march with a 10kg plate carrier and 10kg pack. Just wondering, are there any training tips or techniques to stop it killing your traps/shoulders so much? Is it something that training makes easier? Or does it just always suck and you just gotta deal with it?

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>>32860545
>Said no one actually in the Air Force, ever

>>32861352
A new recruiter should be able to fix everything without you having to tell the old one, if you haven't signed yet

>>32868343
Not that anon, but what if you did sign papers but not your final contract the day you ship out to BMT?

>>32868957
As long as it's not the actual enlistment contract you can still change your mind. Once you enlist you're in though.

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>>32853627
What branch has the best (read:healthiest) food?
Im looking for steel cut oats, skinless chicken breasts, veggies, rice, exc.

>>32868979

My dumbass did. I'm the middle of signing it, I told my recruiter if this was the final contract and if he can still get me my desired AFSC. He assured me that he will still try to find my desired AFSC til I the day I ship, failing to tell me what just happened. What he failed to tell me was that the contract in front of me will lock my enlistment.

>>32868990
AF

>>32853627
Posted this in the other /meg/ thread, but i want to post it again here some more answers.

My father is a Muslim immigrant from morocco and has like 12 brothers and sisters still there. He's been an American citizen for over 30 years. I've only visited his country once when i was like, 6 years old. Will this affect me getting cleared for top secret clearance?

Also, if i do get denied, do i have a choice of what job i get? Or does the navy just get to fuck me as hard as they want.

>>32869096
>Or does the navy just get to fuck me as hard as they want.
As hard as they want.

Usually they will just put you in something related to the MOS you picked that does not require any clearance.

>>32854315
Most probably some other African country, UN/NATO always get involved.

>>32867467
ADHD mostly

>>32868225

Dont join military
Find better job

>>32867669
>>32867932
>>32868160
11B1P here again. If anyone knows the current guidance for prior service and Option 40 let me know.

>>32867952
Dank u mistry dood.

On a more serious note, if you are considering joining the Marine Corps you should really re-think your decisions. I'm not saying don't join, but seriously consider going to a different branch. The Marine Corps is the worst at everything (compensation, living quarters, career progression, etc). It's not all their fault, some problems are inherent in having a minuscule budget compared to other branches. The only real benefits to the Marine Corps are if you love your job (which you won't know until they already got you) and you love being a Marine (same as job).

Meanwhile, you could have joined another branch that is all around better and you can still love your job and branch. Then you won't be like me, getting medically retired after 3 years of living in a barracks where the walls are 50% black mold and handling hazardous chemicals all day that cause nervous system damage. However, if you did not understand any of the words in this rant you will be perfect for the Marine Corps.

>>32869890
This is in the airwing mind you, where the quality of life is somehow supposed to be better than ground side. Also, the handling of hazardous chemicals is done without PPE. You get splash protection, but respirators should be a minimum requirement for that shit.

Could someone answer my stupid question
>>32861079
>>32867752

>>32853627
Tell me about what role the bundeswehr pioniere currently play on the world stage.

>>32870247
Hyperhidrosis is a disqualifying condition, but not a permanent one. It's more of a "you're disqualified and we'll consider a waiver depending on the severity of the condition."

>>32870293
>severity of the condition
As I said my hands/feet are just moist all the time. I'm not dripping or anything.
I really hope I don't get fucked because of that though.
What if I just don't tell them?

>>32853627
Navy recruit here, failed nuke test so going in as secf. Probably gonna go for sts specialization, any advice?

>>32870302
Have you been diagnosed with hyperhidrosis by a doctor?

>>32870320
Not 'officially', I just got prescribed Driclor. I'm pretty sure it's hyperhidrosis though, it can't be caused by anxiety or environmental factors

>>32868990
All branches have bretty decent food now as far as I've heard

>>32870330
You could tell them and try to get a waiver or you could not tell them and live in fear for the rest of your life that the government is going to hunt you down and amputate your slug hands for not telling them about it.

If you don't tell them about it, you keep your hands dry at every medical inspection, and there is no history or diagnosis you shouldn't have any problems. Always play the ignorant fool. If at any point in the future, you're diagnosed with hyperhidrosis your reaction has to be "huh, I never knew that was a medical problem".

>>32870406
Ok, I'll do that.
Why is it a disqualifying condition though?
Will it affect my ability as a soldier if I go 11B?

>>32870428
I don't know. It might be because if it is severe enough, it can interfere with your body's temperature regulation.

>>32870493
Yeah it's not that bad I'll be fine.
Thanks

>>32870428
I can't answer any questions about 11B as I am a simple jet engine mech in the muhreen kore.

>>32870506
Don't forget that human body can behave quite differently while under severe stress like military training. I recommend full medical check up to see what's what before signing up.

Anyone in the 06xx (communications) field that could explain more about the cooler and less cool jobs in there. What to hope for and possibly read up on, etc.

plz n thx

>>32870554
>full medical check up
Isn't that redundant? I mean, if I have any issues that would disqualify me, they'd tell me at MEPS anyway

>>32870512
You guys have some pretty smart dudes over in Muhmeme aviation, why did they go that route?
I mean, you're posting here which probably sets you ahead of most of the population.

t. Airman

Any up early ausfags here?
What sorta chances does a kinda skinnyfat 22 year old interested in infantry or GSO in an infantry role in the army have?

>>32870716
I only knew one other guy in my shop that got 90+ on the ASVAB, but we mostly used our power for evil... and skating. Everyone else in my shop was of average intelligence and varying work ethic. We only had 2-3 complete retards out of 30+. I went that route because I had a burning hatred for school and further education. I also had to pick my contract at the very last second because some weak bitch couldn't do 3 pull ups at MEPS and I got to leave 6 months early. I didn't do much reasearch on my job as I got a call late monday night, had to go in to do a lot of paperwork, choose a new job, and leave tuesday morning. I also thought aircraft maintenance was synonymous with aircrew.

Why are Airmen so afraid of us?

>>32870938
Sorry, I meant to say Airpeople. I wouldn't want to assume your gender.

>>32860184
bamp

>>32870938
>>32870953
>Why are Airmen so afraid of us?
>Sorry, I meant to say Airpeople.

Wew.

Basically it's because Marines have developed an image of paste-eating, jap-raping, fanatics who are endlessly devoted to "muh beloved core".
Obviously it's a extreme stereotype, but the sentiment is still there. From day 1 in basic we're taught to think for ourselves, while it's not exactly like that with the Marines.

I'd say every Airman does respect the Marines for their willingness to put themselves through hard shit. In the AF, we'll do it if we have to, but we much prefer our cush TDYs to hotels. OTOH, ya'll get a lot of scorn when you go and DUI/rape yet another local in Japan.

>I only knew one other guy in my shop that got 90+ on the ASVAB
Literally no one in my shop has below an 80 on the ASVAB, one guy got a 99.

>>32871050
I just had a TS investigation done even though I'm getting out. They called and did an interview in person with all listed family and contacts. I don't think they go searching through your medical history as nothing has come up, but I don't regularly talk to any of the doctors I've seen in the past.

>>32860184
>>32871050
Your TS clearance is entirely unrelated to your medical history, unless there's a mental health component you're hiding. If it's on record, I wouldn't risk it, but they're not going to hunt down your therapist and grill him.

I told the investigators that I smoked weed and underage drank 4 times a month and got it awarded no problems.

>>32871092
Is this your initial, or re-investigation?

>>32871086
>every Airman does respect the Marines

Every encounter I've had with an Airman it's like I'm a drill instructor. They never say anything, they move out of the way as fast as possible, and they never look up if you look at them.

>below an 80
That's probably 80% of my shop right there. I was wrong, there were three of us total with a 90+.

If I could go back, I would go Air Force so I wouldn't be where I'm at now. I'm only three years in and already getting medically retired

>>32864918

Only the Air Force thinks IT is cyber.

>>32871110
Initial

>>32869096
Don't think you can get a TSC with an immigrant parent.

>>32871169
They do have a cyberwarfare team

>>32871164
They're probably afraid of you. A lot of Airmen have never really interacted with other services.
At Keesler, though, there's an A school for something like equipment calibration. I made friends with Navy/Marines at the base auto shop. We'd fuck with them because they had to do shit like wear charlies on Sundays and other shit.

Hopefully you're not too broken man, at least you'll get a decent kick start to your civilian career.

>>32871169
Notice how my job description was one line.
There's a lot that I'm not going to disclose in a 4chan post.

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I'm planning on going into the navy or air force as an engineer out of university (want to serve and want to get a useful degree that doesn't shackle me with long term debt).

Are there any options for a single civilian spouse. I don't plan on having children till after my service so nobody to take care of except the wifey.

>>32871235
Employment options?
Depending on what she likes to do, there are plenty of jobs that she can get on base.
BX, Commissary, Childcare center, library, post office etc.

There's always work off base, too, if she's in a mobile sort of career field. Hell, I know of a Chief's wife who is a nurse at a plasma donation center... she makes good money.

>>32871226
>There's a lot that I'm not going to disclose in a 4chan post.


Cool story, bro. Network maintenance is not what any other service would consider "cyber".

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>>32871271
perfect. I won't have to worry about leaving her in a shitty city apartment while I'm active duty.

>>32871110
>>32871174
I'm the guy that's being medically retired though, so it's not like they just decided to do a TS investigation 4 months before my EAS.

>>32871226
>probably afraid of you

I do look pissed off all the time. The only time I've interacted with another service was in A school.

>>32871295
You sound like one of those fuckfaces that thinks only OCO is "real cyber".
Very few people do that, that's mostly the NSA's turf.

Yeah, base comm isn't "cyber", but that's not what I do.

>>32871481

>one of those fuckfaces

Oh, I'm sorry, did you mean to say "literally the entire military aside from the Air Force"?

You're an IT dude, you don't do cyber.

>>32871599
>you don't do cyber
OK. I'll tell my DO today that we "don't do cyber", and as such don't need those pesky OPORDs anymore. No more DCO too, because the AF doesn't actually do cyber.

I'm pretty sure it's just you that thinks you have to hack the Kremlin to be considered a cyber operator. Like how some 11B's actually think they're the only MOS that matters.

>>32871823

I'm pretty hungry, do you mind if I eat that massive chip you've got on your shoulder?

IT is an important role, you don't have to inflate yourself and get into a huff just because you're not actually part of CYBERCOM.

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>>32871838
Sorry, but I get a little butt-flustered when I'm lumped in with "my printer's not working" tier 1 help-desk jockeys.

>you're not actually part of CYBERCOM
"Wrong."

>>32868307
Could someone answer this for me please?

>>32853627
how fucked am I if i'm out of shape?

Is there coffee in AF basic training and am I able to drink it?

>>32872210
Pretty fucked.

Just run until you puke every day preferably twice a day. Then do some pullups/pushups and crunches/sit ups

>>32868329
Pretty much. Once he gets to Germany he'll have mad fun travelling and partying (Oktoberfest makes Mardi Gras seem a joke by comparison) and may see the light. If not, then he deserves to be in the Army.

>>32872382
define pretty fucked

>>32872294
>coffee in AF basic training
Yes.
>am I able to drink it?
lol no. It's there in the DFAC to tease you, and for the MTIs.

>>32872210
Depends on when you're leaving at what branch you're joining

>>32872468
How long have you been in the DEP?
When do you ship out?


And what branch are you joining?

>>32872623
in for a couple months
Chair
I spent a couple years out of high school doing very minimal physical activity though, i can do pushups and situps and run somewhat, but i'm just concerned that i'll be around people who are coming straight out of HS with sports experience

>>32872651
Chairforce hmm.

Yeah you'll be fine, but if you don't want to look like a lazy skinny-wristed faggot in front of others, then start being more physically active.

>>32872651
>air force
You'll be fine

>>32872668
>if you don't want to look like a lazy skinny-wristed faggot in front of others
i ship this month
i gained a decent bit of weight though, so i'm not a hungry skelly anymore (although i have beanpole genetics)

92y at 10th group
AMA

>>32872651
>people who are coming straight out of HS with sports experience
And?

The AF isn't like the Army/Marines where your PT score impacts promotions, etc. As long as you pass, you're OK.

>>32872684
As long as you can pass your IST or whatever, you should be fine. Never hurts to go above and beyond tho.

have fun wherever your chair shit is located

>>32854397
Those national guard dudes are out there getting it IN with the rest of the guys. It's a chill place to be.

>>32870302
You'll get very special attention from your friendly neighborhood DI, who will be understanding and absolutely won't say WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION PRIVATE SLIP 'N SLIDE?!?!

>>32872739
>wet hands
>slip 'n slide

fuck my sides in half

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> live in green ass tropical country
> sign up for army reserves
> get issued shit tier desert marpat ""tactical"" uniform

Such is life in the tropics

Can I have my uniforms tailored? I'm 6'5" and I never fit properly into anything so I'm assuming it'll be the same with uniforms

89D what do i need to do this

>>32872956
Yes, as far as AF goes.

I'm already in good enough shape to nearly max the PAST, but if I'm shooting for SOF how many more months of hard training would you recommend before I apply?

I feel like cross country and track in high school were pretty ideal for prepping for this.

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WHICH BRANCH could be described as:

Fat fucks discussing holiday parties for 80% of their time in service

>>32873285

None of them accurately, any of them if you're just making shit up.

>>32872986

Time machine. EOD is overmanned as fuck now.

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Question in regards to ROTC scholarships.
I'm in college, have a high GPA, but im not /fit/ fit.
Iv been doing Pushups/crunches/pullups/running daily.

Should I go talk to a recruiter now or wait a few months until im stronger?

>>32873285

In my experience, Marines. The intensity with which Marines do bake sales to pay for the annual ball puts the other services to shame. Even in civilian land I've never seen anyone get a hard-on for a holiday party as much as the Marines do.

>>32872686
What have you "requisitioned" for personal use or profit.

>>32854369
Oy Vey! They mustn't be allowed to drop the currently approved shekels.

>>32873395
19K ?

>The military is a place where people with a somewhat checkered past can go to become reputable with good service.

Was the above an accurate statement or was I told bullshit?

>>32873988
It's somewhat true, but you can't have too much of a checkered pass or you won't get in at all

>>32864918
>He's not stupid if he's considering a career. Ya'll shit all over the AF/CG for having the best quality of life, and then immediately separate once your four years are done.

It's typical. USAF is best career if you play it right. I've never met a retiree who wished they'd separated instead. IT-related work in the Air Force opens the door to doing two careers which is pleasantly profitable.

Any group whose identity is based on calling other people shit instead of what they themselves do well has problems they try to paper over with egoism. There are many ways to serve so whatever brings in the manpower is fine with me, but I was determined on doing at least twenty when I started and since most of any career is spent in peacetime condition, of fucking course I went Air Force.

>>32865203
>>Crew Chief or Hydro, work for an airline

https://www.airforce.com/careers/detail/aircraft-structural-maintenance is a well kept secret but techs are highly employable. There are many aircraft mechanics relative to the number of structural techs. Aircraft factories with large contracts always need them as do repair outfits.

Few civilians think to ask about that specialty. I had many dealings with Fab Flight as a maintainer and would enjoy the work at least as much as I did avionics/engine/crew chief.

>>32866079
I endorse this post except to add that I'd only want to work on aircraft systems or aerospace ground equipment (which covers a pretty wide range of systems and is great if you want to be a good technical generalist).

I'd avoid missile maint. (no travel to fun places like Europe, Japan or Korea) and any weapons maintenance AFSCs. Of course avoid SF, avoid Admin unless fluent in Ebonics, and avoid Transportation to avoid shitty Sand Box TDYs. (Aircraft maintainer TDYs are comfy.)

>>32866282
I also endorse this post. (MSgt, retired and loving it.)

>>32867669
Do it, knock out twenty or more, and you'll be happy you did. Civilian life is boring and most civilians are helpless creatures.

>>32868225
So ditch the fat and do it.

What are your current interests? Are you technically inclined? If you want to be a cop you can check out police forums for best advice on what specialty to choose.

I was torn between CI and HUMINT until I realized that in the military most CI people are also LEOs. I don't want the goddamn nightmare of investigating ten sexual assault cases for every counter-espionage or counter-terror case that I work. Christ.

>>32874625

Try more like two hundred "dealing weed in the barracks" cases for every counter-espionage or counter-terror case. That high-level shit is incredibly rare compared to catching Joe being retarded.

>>32874660

If I had joined to do CI I might suicide rather than deal with that shit.

>>32874660

That's CID. CI are the ones who answer the "call spy" hotline and do TARP briefs.

>>32874732

Actual CI is pretty fucking spooky anon. In the Air Force, Marines, Navy, and quite possibly Army CID CI pulls double duty as LEO, but they don't typically work CI cases because of a backlog of petty law enforcement shit.

>>32853627
>that pic
ACTUALLY know this kid, my brother plays football with him

>>32873559
I feel so sketchy answering this.

A lot. Hahah

>>32874470
Yeah, while admin jobs are piss easy, I think I'd eventually jump off a bridge after dealing with dependents and other admin staff all day.
Cyber trans and cyber ops can go everywhere, but usually don't get cool TDYs. You also have to be a certain type of person to like those jobs. I'm a huge nerd, and love what I do, but if you don't really care about that sort of thing, then you might not have as good of a time.

>>32874482
What was your strategy to make it 20 years? I'm at year 2, and not sure if I could do 20. I'd really like to go back to Pittsburgh, and there are no bases closer than 4 hours.
I suppose I could try to go guard/reserve and get a AGR/ART slot at the wing there.

>>32874819
yo for real?

my friend sent it to me after he saw it on some reddit board that specializes in cringe

please tell me more

>>32875881
>yo foh real shiiiieeeeet
AYOYOYOYO HOL UP
So you be sayin you some kinda
*smacks lips and makes ape noises
Reddit nigger?

Shiiiiieeeeet

>>32876032
Not really no. I only occasionally browse a few boards for roguelike computer games. But a friend of mine sent me that picture in a text message.

Any marines in here?
Or marine DEPpers?

>>32876139
I'm dep'ed in, ship out soon.

what questions ya got?

>>32876303
Is it true you swear in before picking MOS field?

>>32876527
Just picked my field the other day.
I swore in in December.

so yeah its true

>>32876570
Weird.
What are you going for?

>>32876680
Yeah its weird, just make sure you pass your IST as soon as possible. My recruiter wouldn't let me pick my jobs before I passed.

Apparently am going into Communications because Arty was full. Oh well, still get to do some kind of cool military shit I think. Plus I'll be a marine in 4 months.

>>32876713
Fuck what's IST?
I hardly know shit about joining the marines because I was dead set on either Army or Air Force but the marines are the only ones that will give me a waiver I need.

>>32876760
IST is 4 pullups
55 Crunches in 2 minutes
and
Mile and a Half run in 13:30 minutes

the run can fuck ya if you've never ran before

>>32876778
I can handle that.
I've been doing C25k to slowly ease back into running.
I used to be a cardio wizard before I got my first case of shin splints.
Then I was always too impatient to wait to fully heal before trying to run like I used to. I've basically had shin splints on and off for like 3 or 4 years, until recently that is.
So you take this test with your recruiter or what?

>>32876825
You'll likely take this test every week when you PT with other poolees.
But if you've ran before you probably wont have a run time of 18 minutes that you spent more than half of it puking all over yourself. Like I did. I literally never ran before in my life before this.

>>32876857
Well good on you for passing.
Thanks for the chat.
I have to get up early to go see the recruiter actually.
Take care.

I've gone through both USAF and Army BMT/BCT (Jackson). Air Force was more stressful because I dident know shit and literally thought the MTI's could recycle you for the smallest shit. The Army on the other hand was much more physically demanding because of all the rucks. Overall I prefer the Army, because we actually got to do military shit. In the AF I dident even get to go to the range for weapons qual (literally only get to shoot once in BMT) because I was doing some security clearance stuff. In the Army I went to the Range like 1-2 time a week for a couple of weeks. Also, digging foxholes and sleeping in them for multiple nights, firing a grenade out of a 203, throwing a live hand grenade and doing grenade qualification course. In BMT we just did drill and ceremony shit and folded clothes for locker inspections all damn day.

The Army did fuck with your sleep schedule, a lot. Which fucking sucked. Seriously got like 4-5 hours of sleep every night for the entire 10 weeks. surprisingly dident get too much shit from the drills for being a prior airman.

>>32876918
Thanks bud.
Remember your recruiter can be a good guy if you let him, just make sure to talk about what you want to talk about and remember allt he moto shit he spews at you. You'll come to fall in love with it.

take care as well or something

>>32876955
What was your AF AFSC?
Why did you go green and what are you doing in the Army now?

I'm an Airman and BMT was pretty stressful for me because it was my first time away from home. The MTIs demanded perfection, and I spend a lot of time worrying that I would never get out of there. The endless inspections, procedures, and risk of recycle got old after a few weeks. Freaked the fuck out of us when our MTI recycled someone for fucking around during blues issue.
Looking back, I could handle it again no problem. My tech school, though, was actual ass and I can safely say I would never do it again if I had to.

My buddy who's 11B told me about his BCT experience, and it sounded harder physically, but much less mentally torturous.

>have good friend, wants to join military
>absolutely set on it, devoting hours of research and training
>me, no clue how military actually is
>don't want him to go, but may be best option for him
>he's not the sharpest tool in the shed and has non-supportive parents, so it may be his only option for a decent career
Should I let him go? Is it a good option? If not how do I convince him otherwise?

>>32877490
Assuming he's not a colossal fuckup, for the next 4-6 years he will have:

>A place to live
>Food to eat
>Healthcare
>A decent paycheck
>Tons of support facilities
>Tuition assistance

If he does 20 years, he'll retire with a fat pension in his 40's.
If he does 4-6, he'll have a bachelor's degree basically paid for.

Since he's doing tons of research, it looks like he's way ahead of a lot of people looking to join.
While not everyone stays in, very few people regret joining.

How is it being an officer? How is OCS as opposed to Boot Camp?

I've been considering doing OCS after I finish college. My dad was in the Navy as enlisted, and he told me not to join unless I go officer.

So is it a good idea to join as an officer? What responsibilities would I have in the Navy?

>>32872956
No you got to get that extraextralong

Can you commission into the Air Force security forces?

If I earn a 4 year but don't attend ROTC, can I commission by walking into a recruiter's office with my paperwork?

Can someone elaborate please.

>>32878913
>security forces
y tho

>>32878927
I want to go SF, it's what I like and want to do.
If I end up hating it I'll just change classification, not sure if you can if you commission though.

As a frenchfag, would it be dumb for me to join the Legion instead of the regular army? The lack of budget's fine, I'm used to living frugally.

As I see it, I'll actually get opportunities to get deployed, meet interesting people and I like the south of France/Corsica so that's good too.

>>32879036

You do know that AFOSI does most of what you would think is cool shit that military cops do, right?

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>>32879658
Its an airfag, the only cool thing they is suck off the other services in between choking on twinkies.

If they aren't an 11FX, literally who cares.

Every other branch offers superior alternatives for every other job, with more competent personnel.

>>32879822

>he's stupid enough to believe this
>or just trolling

>>32860545
>If I'm going to be in the military I want to be fighting

Even if you go infantry you're not likely to see combat.

And you'll realize how much better you had it in the Air Force.

>>32874625
>I was torn between CI and HUMINT

In the Army, and every branch as far as I'm aware, 35L/CI Agent is not an IET (initial entry training) MOS. So that choice is already made for you.

>until I realized that in the military most CI people are also LEOs

CI Agents are not LEOs. You're thinking of CID.

CI = Counter Intelligence
CID = Criminal Investigation

Any Marine pilots around? What's the best way to become a pilot?

>>32874774
>Army CID CI

Those are two different things.

A CID Investigator is not a CI Agent. They are two separate MOS with separate MOS codes (31D and 35L).

Stop answering questions if you don't actually know the answer.

>>32880176
>>32880138

I'm talking about the Air Force, actually. AFOSI works that way with CI. NCIS works that way. Marines are building their program as a CI/HUMINT model in that vein, but letting NCIS do the LEO stuff as far as I can tell. The only one that seems to be different is the Army, and I even expressed my uncertainty with that.

>and quite possibly Army CID

I have to say, you guys assume everyone is going Army. We aren't.

>>32879822

>Air Force girls are always the hottest

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>>32880284
>spreading that meme
The officers, sure. The enlisted are fat motherfuckers, with tons of Mexicans, Shaniquas, and fat mudsharks.

>>32880318

But that's literally every branch.

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>>32880321
More so in the Air Force

>>32880327

I've been to Army bases, you can't convince me to pretend that's an Air Force problem.

>>32880198
>I'm talking about the Air Force, actually.
OSI is not entry level either.

>>32880390

Not for enlisted, no. But neither is HUMINT. Muh service is not your service.

>>32854055
Another shining example of how our best and brightest don't join the military...

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>>32880523

>less than 1% of my class is doing ROTC

You aren't entirely wrong, but I think it's because service in the military has been deprioritized by the upper class.

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>>32880643
>I think it's because service in the military has been deprioritized by the upper class.
Entirely this.

>Parents are very anti-military
>Told me a bunch of garbage about how i'd be killed in training by drill sargent's or sent out on suicide missions by myself if I enlisted
>Never even knew programs like ROTC existed
>Had neighbors that literally think the military exists to murder children and oppress brown people

Is the PMC post-mil route a meme? Or is it legit? I personally only know of one person that wasn't a Benghazi contractor to get a PMC job after his service.

>>32881269

It's legitimate. But you need to be choosy about who you seek employment with because some contractors are shittier than others.

I won't say any names but... fuck SERCO and XE. You're better off with Raytheon or one of the others.

>>32881269

Depends on what you mean by a meme. The opportunities available to you are going to be dependent on your experience.

One-deployment infantryman who never really did shit? Congratulations, you're qualified to work 12 hour days sitting in a guard tower overseas. The money is decent but not insane like it was during the height of the wars. Usually the places hiring PMCs are shitholes, but it beats making $11/hr being a security guard back in the states if you have literally no real marketable skills.

Most of the high-paid contract work is for technical professions, not shooters.

I have a 4 year degree. I want to go to OCS but first I'm going to enlist. How long should fuck around as an E-4? Go to OCS as soon as possible or fuck around for a few years and then go.

>>32881603

> I want to go to OCS but first I'm going to enlist.

Don't be retarded. If you want to go OCS, just go to OCS.

Enlisting only makes sense if you aren't sure what you want to do. If you already know you want a commission, go get one.

Any FISTer's on here?

>>32880747
>Had neighbors that literally think the military exists to murder children and oppress brown people
Hopefully the fact that BLM hasn't been subject to strafing runs from A-10s has disabused them of that notion.

What's the best way to go if I want to light up ISIS or the Chinese?

Idgaf about money, civilian career, etc. I just want to fucking kill and die for my country.

Living to tell about it is a bonus, but not required.

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>>32881932
You'd make a fine Marine.

>>32881972
Would I actually be able to go to war or am I going to sit around and listen to some pansy-ass lieutenant telling me to check my fucking privilege?

>>32882013
You do whatever you're told to do. If you want guaranteed action you'd have to join the rangers or seals but it's not like you'd make it with your attitude.

>>32882013
The only way to go to war with the US military is be part of the tip of the spear. If you enlist now your career and training will be fairly advanced by the time of the next war, most likely against Iran but possibly against jihadists in Yemen. There are so many battlefields involving US forces that your odds are good.

Would enlisting with a college degree be retarded? I'm not sure I have the gpa to become an officer (3.4 non STEM), also I have some minor drinking charges like 2 MIPs. Or will Trump's military expansion likely make standards to get in easier?

>>32882047
I've just heard that the military is kinda stagnating since we're not really at war. I don't want to sit and listen to SHARP briefings or whatever.

Taking orders is fine. I don't have a problem with it at all.

>>32882056
Sounds good. I'm thinking either Army, Marines, or NG. Thoughts?

>>32882095

Even if you're an infantry soldier/marine and you're deployed and it's wartime, you will still spend 99% of your time waiting around. Don't play video games to hype yourself up. DO actual research and read about the day to day experiences of vets. Watch Jarhead or Generation Kill and see if you still think the military is cool when it's not lighting shit up.

>NG
>implying

If you just wanna kill join the Rangers. But even then you won't be swimming in combat and it's really fucking hard. Watch stuff like The Selection and Making the Cut, also read books about the SOF selection and training process. People get their ass kicked by regular infantry training and that is nothing compared to SOF.

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What MOS's tend to attract the most drama?

What is the most chill MOS?

>>32882388
11b or any combat MOSes, id say 18x is honestly the most drama filled program in the military by far

Theyre all filled with spergs

>>32868307
>>32871972
If you're a skinny bastard putting on some weight (good weight) will help.

Honestly going over to /fit/ and figuring out how to do some sort of total body barbell training would not be bad. The only problem is maintaining or improving your level of cardio at the same time.

>>32854461
>>32854439
You guys Parris or Hollywood? Shipping on March 6th to SD, but I just need 10 more crunches. I really dont want to ship later

>>32881603
>>32881615
If you want to commission, try that first.

If I were you, and I didn't make it my first time around, I'd enlist and re-apply every year. You'll at least be getting paid and racking up years of service in the meantime.

>>32882063
That's high enough for OCS.
You can probably get a waiver for the drinking charges. I'd give commissioning a shot.

>>32882617
SD for me brudda.

The crunches are easy and can be somewhat cheated.

Get your legs as close to you as possible. And hold your biceps as low as possible, to minimize the distance between your elbows and legs. Then make sure to use the two minutes they give you. Do not tire yourself out within the first minute and have 5 left to do. There is another poolee at the RSS I go to, who literally did 50 in one minute, and couldn't get his other 5 in the last minute.

hope this helps, you got any tips on runnin'?

Thinking about being a Cryptologic Linguist in the Air Force. Is Monterrey a cool posting?

>>32883394
Yeah. I like it here. And the Airforce has it pretty good here it seems compared to the other services.
If you have a bachelors, consider going army just for the E-4 pay.
Just remember you're gonna be living in shitty cramped barracks for over a year if you're single.

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Is MC part of the Linescores to qualify for CTN in the Navy?

I'm asking because I check Navy COOL and other websites and they seem to say it's either AR+2MK+GS or VE+AR+MK+MC. Is it one or the other or is it both?

I'm asking because I've been studying for MC a bit and slowly realizing I know absolutely jackshit about any of it, meanwhile AR, MK, and GS come naturally. If it's the second formula I may be fucked (Even though VE is really fucking easy for me and I can speed through that portion of the test with ease) since with every practice test I've done I've gotten dogshit scores.

>>32883472

Are the barracks really that bad?

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>>32883700
Barracks are temporary. That's like complaining that bootcamp sucks. Its temporary therefore it doesn't matter

>>32883700
No, they're just kinda old and you'll be sharing a small room and bathroom with at least one other guy.
It gets old after a while, particularly if you're a socially anxious introverted stut-in like me.

>>32883759
>socially anxious introverted stut-in like me.
How do such people get treated in the military? Especially in infantry roles?

>>32854461
Jeeze dude. You need to work on that. Going to RASP soon. I run my 2 mile in almost in a little less than 13 min

>>32883766

they're better off than mose people think, having a loud mouth gets you SHARP van'd or hit by the EO truck

as long as they make up for it by being a good marksman, beast in PT, and know their shit then no one is going to care if they've got little to nothing to say

>>32883852
How tho? I still haven't picked up on why people are able to run so well. Sure I've gotten a lot better but I want to get down to a ten minute mile and a half before I ship in 37 days.

>>32883892
You need to push yourself everyday. I've always been a great runner so its hard for me to tell you as to why its so easy for me. Used to run cross country in highschool. Start off running at a good fast pace that you can stay at and one of the most important things is to CONTROL YOUR BREATHING. I cannot stress to you as to how important that is when you run. It needs to be like a rhythm.
And always get a good stretch before you run.
Also stay hydrated throughout the day.
I used to wake up and run 3 miles in the morning and 5 at night. Would push myself everyday.
Now running 2 miles is just a sprint to me lol

>>32854461

i started BCT by running 20:00 minute 2 miles lmao

i'm a duckfoot motherfucker i cant run worth a shit.. they only passed me because i made the minimum run, and by AIT i was on the extended highspeed scale for pushups/situps

i'd get like a 267 PT score and fail lmao

>>32883941
What is controlled breathing? Because I believe that is my most major problem with running. After a little bit into the run I feel like my heart is going to explode and my lungs are going to collapse. I quit the cigarettes (mostly), and drink lots of water daily. I'm not sure how to keep a constant pace. There are times I feel like I should slow down to a fast walk just to give my heart and lungs a break. Do I keep running no matter how my chest feels?

>>32884019
Yeah man. Most importantly you need to listen to your body so you dont hurt your self. As long as you arent obese or overly overweight, you have no excuse my man. Dont let you brain trick you into thinking your "tired" or "done". Theres a difference between being hurt and injured. When you hurting and you push through, it'll only make you better.

And about the breathing. Its hard to explain. But when you are running at a good fast pace for yourself (not sprinting) but a fast run pace that you can stay at. Dont think about anything else besides putting one foot in front of the other and your breathing. When you start freaking out and panting and breathing like an animal, you wont make it far. In through your nose and out of your mouth. Nice decently deep breaths. No short breathing. And control it to a constant rhythm

>>32883941
>I used to wake up and run 3 miles in the morning and 5 at night

How long did it take you to get here?

>>32884095
Guess I need to actually run to correct my breathing instead of to prolong how long it takes before I want to die.

I do enjoy running at this point, and for a solid hour after the run I feel euphoric as shit. Just needa get better.

Thanks man, feel like goin' on a run now.

>>32884120
Long time man. I said in an earlier comment that i used to run cross country in middle school and highschool, so i've been running distance for a while. If you're a beginner in distance running, just work on progression. Start by running 1 mile a day. And once your killing it bump it up to 2 and so on. Its all about progression.

>>32882095
>I don't want to sit and listen to SHARP briefings or whatever.

That's part of the game anon. Everyone. Literally everyone has to sit through briefings like that. Everyone has to do SAEDA and anti terrorism online "check the box" classes. Everyone has to PMCS vehicles in the motorpool, everyone has to do weapons cleaning, everyone has to police call the unit area, everyone has to do stupid bullshit, everyone has to do work details.

50% or more of being a soldier is doing stupid seemingly unimportant bullshit.

>>32882095

My dad was in 'nam and he had to do all of that bullshit, at least the version of it that existed back then and throughout his career. You think you're literally going to just play COD in real life?

how bad is infantry peacetime in the usmc?

>>32884781
Well, what would you consider bad?

>>32884905
staying on a base wanting to kill myself

even mopping in the rain is something

>>32885179

You're gonna hate the military anon. You're going to hate the time management, the coursework, and especially the endless meetings.

...but you're even less well adjusted to normal adult life.

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>>32873412
Bumping this.

>>32873412
>in regards to
STOP this. Only people who eat shit from their hands say this. Stop saying this. Say instead "with regard to."

.t English major

>>32885378
https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/in-with-regard-to
>in/with regard to - definition and synonyms
>concerning a particular subject

http://www.grammarbook.com/homonyms/in-regards-to-with-regards-to.asp
>In Regard(s) To, With Regard(s) To
>In regard to and with regard to are phrases that mean "regarding," "concerning," "on the subject of."

Here are my sources, lets see yours.

>>32853627
I'm wrapping up my BA in psych, and I want to get a commission as an officer for the Corps. I've been working an a paramedic for two years, and working on the weekends on clinicals for children with autism. I do not have any priors, and a spotless (nearly nonexistent) record. I am in excellent physical health, 3-mile run in 19 min, 2pl8 for deadlift, squat, and bench. I am white, male, 22 yrs old, 6'1", 160 lb.

I imagine my base stats would appeal to a recruiter, but I would like to know what I could say or do to improve my chances of being selected.

>>32885466
I'll use your same sources, retard. See what I was getting at was you sound like a shit eating ape retard. You have bad taste and you have a bad ear. You can be grammatically correct according to your sources and say "in regards to" all the time, but you will sound like a high school girl. Stop saying it, faggot retard. Stop it. You sound like an idiot.

The air force isn't that bad. Atleast not the battlefield side.

>>32885550

Battlefield airmen have a separate basic from other airmen.

>>32885547
In regards to your complaint about my use of in regards I will take it into consideration.

In regards to sounding like an idiot, well now I know how to trigger english majors.

Also
>you will sound like a high school girl.
Where are you located where high school girls say "in regards to"?
I'v never heard any women use "in regards to".

>>32885608
No.... same bullshit basic as any other airman. Different tech school style compared to other jobs though.

>>32885640
>where are you located where high school girls say "in regards to"?
Grading papers in English 101 classrooms.

>tfw nervous about TS screen even though I have no reason to be

>>32885891
I was the same for my clearance

>>32885891

This is why polygraphs are a prop.

>>32885915
I guess the reason I'm nervous is that my major at my university is full of international kids from China, India etc. so I deal with non-US citizens on a day to day basis. I only listed one tho on my SF-86 because he's my roommate, but I'm worried that they'll find some other kid who gets described as my friend or something like that when really they're just someone I see at class (I never hang out with people outside of class). Is that something I would be able to clear up with the investigator? It wasn't clear to me how close the "foreign ties" had to be to be listed on the SF 86

>>32886058

I have a lot of such foreign ties. I have some more worrisome than that, I went through the blood brother ritual with a Chinese national who is the grandson of a general there. It's cool dog, just know that you're loyal to this country in your heart and you're fine.

>>32886105
alright that makes me feel a bit better

I guess I'm worried they'll think I was intentionally trying to hide something from them

I'm probably worrying about it a bit too much, I've found in 99% of the things I've done with the military that it's not nearly as bad as I mentally thought it was going to be

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>>32886139
>alright that makes me feel a bit better
>believing this post

>>32885536

Fuck that shit dude, go Recon or try for MARSOC if those are your real stats. sub 7 pace on a 3 mile run is shit hot, how are your push up/sit up/pull up numbers?

>>32885536

Shoot for CRO in the Air Force.

what's the best rate in the navy for someone who just wants to get the gi bill and get the hell out?

>>32888396
Nuke.
Nuke is really easy.
Perfect for anyone who just wants the gi bill.

If you go ROTC, do you get GI bill, or anything that will pay for a masters?

What are some good places to learn about tactics + strategy besides the CCRP?

Also can i get some details on the promotion system of the military, primarily officers but also regular roles if you have time

>>32888722
>Promotion system of the military

Most branches have E1-E3 as automatic promotions, Army and AF get E-4 automatically too.

Ranks E4 to E6 (NCOs) are generally determined by a points based system, combining taking into account (weight differs per branch) things like:
>PT Score
>Marksmanship
>Performance report
>Time in service
>Time in grade
>Skill based knowledge
>Professional development knowledge

Each of these are worth some number of points, and then the service sets a bar at which everyone who scored above a certain score will be promoted.
Each branch takes these into account differently. The Marines will value things like marksmanship and PT, whereas the AF doesn't even take those into account, and focuses much more on job specific knowledge.

E7 to E9 (SNCOs) is basically a big package that you compile, and a board of raters look at your whole career, person, development, impact, etc.
They know they have "x" many people to promote, so they pick the people they feel are the best qualified for the next rank.

Officers have it a bit different:

O-1 through O-3 are automatic. You have to seriously fuck up to get those denied.
Every officer rank beyond that works kind of like the SNCO promotion system, where your commander will recommend you for promotion, and a central board will rate who makes the cutoff.
There are hard cutoffs. 80% of O-3's will make O-4. 70% of O-4's will make O-5. If you fail to get promoted twice, you get the boot.
This makes it significantly more difficult to retire as an officer, as an enlisted man only has to make E-6 to meet his 20 year mark. A non prior enlisted officer would have to make O-5, which simply isn't something you can count on.

>>32889240
Thanks

Any Royal Navy lurking here?

>>32889763
cunt?
I have no navy experience, but serve the glorious queen in the Australian memetic shitposting division

>>32889798
Nah Bong.
Thinking of going submarine warfare specialist sensors if future plans fail.

>>32889808
And what plans are those? Dunno much about that but being part of the secret water explorer club will teach you some valuable lessons for civilian life, like how to make sure its not wet when you go in small spaces

>>32882255
Nearly finished with Generation Kill. Looks like a fun time.

>>32884326
>>32884416
Obviously I would like to avoid it but I'm not going to scream and cry if I have to do something I don't like. If it's part of being a soldier then fine.

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>>32889240
>There are hard cutoffs. 80% of O-3's will make O-4. 70% of O-4's will make O-5.
>If you fail to get promoted twice, you get the boot.

Holy shit. How regular do promotions come up?
Does the hard cutoff continue past O-4?
Do you lose everything if you are kicked out or is it an honorable discharge?

So really, if you just want to be a middle manager being an officer is not the right job.
You are pretty much forced to climb to the very top or you are kicked out.

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>>32888576

Bump for this question, I plan on joining when I get my BBA but would like to use the GI bill when I get out to pay for at least part of an MBA

>>32890669

Actually my question is a little different since I want to enlist and wont be doing OCS and haven't done ROTC.

Basically, I'll have a bachelors when I enlist, so when I get out, will I be able to apply my GI bill towards a masters degree, or does it only work for undergraduate?
Seems like it wouldnt matter, especially cause a masters is only usually a 2 year program vs a 4 year undergrad degree

>>32886739
easily more than 100 crunches (I usually do declined crunches at gym), 20+ pullups, and 100+ pushups in an average workout.

Recon looks pretty cool, just started checking them out.

>>32887280
But I want to join the muhreens

>>32886739
>>32890844

If you get a recon contract and drop out of the training you get an open contract and get sent to whatever shit job they need to fill. People don't drop for just physical performance either so make sure you do some research on the selection process and know what you're getting into.

For MARSOC you have to be an E-4 or E-5 so don't even worry about that right now.

>>32890658

O-5 is retirement grade, hardly "the very top". That's the epitome of middle management. LTC is just high enough up to lose touch with the troops but not high enough up to actually have significant influence.

>>32891172

To enlisted and warrants O-5s and O-6s look like gods because they have so much clout comparatively and they can't conceive of what O-7 and above must be like. Outside of SOCOM or intelligence where they are able to hijack policy because of the compartmentalized nature of the work staff officers really don't have all that much clout.

>>32891196

Ayup. Even as a BN commander a LTCs' mandate is pretty much "Keep the spreadsheets green for the boss". At least at company command level (O-3) you're actually leading troops you know personally.

>>32889959
>If it's part of being a soldier then fine.
I think the problem is you're underestimating how much of a part of soldiering it is.

Easily 90% of your time is going to be spent doing that shit while on duty.

>>32891196

>SOCOM or intelligence where they are able to hijack policy because of the compartmentalized nature of the work

pls explain

>>32891470

When your boss might not be read on to all the same compartments you are, you get a little more autonomy.

>>32891519

You also get more rope to hang yourself with.

Hey /meg/, I've been curious and Google is a mess: does anyone know the definite list of aircraft in the armed forces that require more than one occupant? I want to be a flight officer/radar officer/electronic warfare officer or their equivalent, and branch isn't terribly important to me if I get to go and fly often.

>>32891559

I don't have a list, but the AFSC you are looking for is either the enlisted 1AXX etc Aircrew, or if you want to be an officer the AFSC for that are

>12AX Airlift Navigator
>12BX Bomber Combat Systems Operator
>12EX Experimental Test Combat Systems Officer
>12FX Fighter Combat Systems Officer
>12GX Generalist Combat Systems Officer
>12KX Trainer Combat Systems Officer
>12MX Mobility Combat Systems Officer
>12RX Reconnaissance/Surveillance/Electronic Warfare Combat Systems Officer
>12SX Special Operations Combat Systems Officer

That's the navigator field where you're basically handling instrumentation... honestly I know nothing about it beyond that as it doesn't personally interest me.

Am I screwed out of becoming an officer if I took antidepressants for like 1-2 months to try it?

>>32891869

Was it prescribed? If so, then can you get a doctor to indicate that it was a misdiagnosis?

>>32891880
Yeah it was, and yeah, I probably could. I just felt a little out of sorts when it was prescribed to me, I wasn't a wreck. If push comes to shove she's close-ish with my family and would probably just do it to not screw me out of my dream. It's no skin off her back, right?

>>32891916

Misdiagnosis happens. Get it in writing. I don't know what HIPAA is like right now for the military so I couldn't tell you if you're better off admitting to it and showing them that it was a misdiagnosis or saying that it didn't happen.

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>>32881843
you know it hasn't. they'll continue to hate the US military like good lil goys.

>get kicked out of the discord without reason or warning

>>32875881
yeah we're from iceland
it's from a fb group called samfélag íslenskra mímara

>>32890955
Alright, thanks. I'm pretty sturdy mentally, not much phases me, and it takes a lot to get me exhausted. I'll talk to my recruiter about recon.