/brg/ Battle Rifle General

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>>32852031
First

>>32852031
PTR is arriving soon
Need any leads on a wood hand guard. The buttstock are easy to find.

>>32852489
Excerpt on Google books

>>32852068
Keep original green furniture, only handguard to get is wide handuard

>>32853301
How do you attach a flashlight to the skinny green handguard?

>>32853301
But I have a MIGHTY NEED for the classic wood.
Also a suppressor.
Do I actually need a #17 or #18 locking piece to shoot suppressed?

>>32853409
Only if you want the gun to survive.

>>32853409
I've read that you don't actually need them.

>>32853349
duct tape or hose clamp

>>32853428
>>32853422
Well that's some conflicting info right there but if 4chan taught me anything it's that repeating digits are right.

>>32853409
>>32853456
You definitely want the #17. If you don't have it, it's comparable to running an FAL with the gas system constantly completely open.

>>32852054
is that the new INSAS?

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>>32852031

>>32854228
double .308 POWER

>>32854320
Not quite. It used the .22 T65 Duplex round which was basically a 7.62 RFN necked down to .22.

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>>32854349
Don't forget, multiple bullets in each round. 4 bullets at once basically.

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>>32852031
What kind of experimentation are we talking here?

>>32854762
Is sakuya kill?

>>32854778
Not unless his flamethrower exploded.

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Can you guys help me identify this rad little optic? I love how flush it sits.

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>>32856079

>>32856094
It's a Chinese made POS.
Google G3 red dot, first result from alliexpress should have some for sale.

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>>32854778
We can only hope.

>>32857415
Damn. Are there any non-Chink options that look similar? Closest I've seen is some of those Sig optics.

>>32857864
Just put a T1 on it

>>32854762
>that frame
it doesn't even try to hide having a penis

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>>32856079
>>32856094
>buying a cetme

>>32858020
What's he supposed to do, break his bones?
I swear all these crossdressers are just trannies who never had a chance at passing so they play it off as ironic memery.

Can I shoot a G3 lefty or should I just blind myself in the left eye so I can shoot normally?

Can anyone recommend an adjustable sling for use with a plate carrier? I've only got the original German G3 leather sling and that doesn't play too nicely with plates.

>>32854389
That's 400% more bullet PER bullet!

>>32858067
It's going to be really tough to use lefty. I'm left eye dominant, but right handed so I've always just shot right handed. It takes some getting used to but it's worth it.

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>>32858067
You can, but it's not ideal.

>>32858092
How did you do it? I've heard eyepatches work but I tried it for two weeks at 12 hours a day and it didn't change.

>>32858067
Pretty sure you can, but my PTR fucking rips casing about 50 ft at the 3 o'clock so it you did get hit it wouldnt be fun

I want a non AR looking semi auto .308 win. gun made in the current years, but it seems my choices are limited

FN SCAR
M1A
Kel-Tec RFB
FN FNAR/Browning BAR
Vepr
Sauer 303

And I'm not even sure that all I've listed are battle rifles, aside from the scar and m1a

>>32858073
I use tactical link and BFG slings

>>32858107
I don't remember doing anything in particular outside of shooting. If I couldn't focus properly on the sights, I'd just close my left eye. It's not the best technique but it helped in the long run. I shoot pistols right handed but I still use my left eye for those.

>>32858114
FN SCAR - expensive
M1A - kinda expensive and people bitch about the recievers
Kel-Tec RFB - dont see them very often but it's on my list so im bias
FN FNAR/Browning BAR - BAR is 4k and heavy as fuck.
Vepr - no idea
Sauer 303 - no idea

i got a ptr gi since it was affordable and i have a thing for H&K's

>>32858114
FN FNAR looks like it's preparing for another assault rifle ban.

>>32858134
Browning BAR is like a grand
Ohio ordnance HCAR is like $4k

http://www.browning.com/products/firearms/rifles/bar/current-production/bar-mark-3.html

>>32858151
There are countries other than the US that can own guns. Crazy I know.

>>32858114
You could always get a PTR or DSA. They're leaning on the affordable side and can be upgraded to your heart's content.

>>32858174
Who cares about other countries?

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What a good price for one of these? This is the Century C308 Sporter.

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>>32859748
$500 or less.

OP's pic..

That thing has blades under the dude.

If..if he fell off wouldn't he get chopped up?

>>32859748

Your left hand.

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>>32852031
Experimental edition you say

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>>32859921

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>>32859973

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Looking to get a larger charging handle for my 16" PTR, will just about any of them fit or will I have to stick with a certain size?

>>32860000
Fuck that's hideous

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>>32860261
It should work with any standard charging handle as far as I'm aware. I've got one if you're interested in buying it. My email is [email protected].

>>32860358
I hit you up, thanks anon.

Why doesn't anyone make an MP5-style cocking handle for the G3?

>>32860617
Agreed, I would much prefer this.

Amidst some shit slinging by anally devastated fanboys someone claimed that the G3's roller delayed blowback action bends the receiver with every shot.
That's bullshit, right?

>>32861013
It's a pretty violent system, but I can't see it doing any actual damage or being any worse than how much an AK flexes everything.

I'm sure there's a reason they reinforced the receiver on the PSG1

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>>32861013
Considering the conditions under which most G3s are used, and the fact that they continue to be used after decades of negligent treatment, I'd say that's probably bullshit.

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>>32861013
>That's bullshit, right?
Probably not. It is just sheet metal after all, not carved from stone; it's gonna have some flex to it.

>>32861091
>>32861147
Flex, absolutely, "bend" probably not.

>>32861160
Well, there's probably a reason that G3 receiver straightening mandrels exist.

>>32861178
>when you're an African child soldier and you have to take your rusty, bent G3 to the receiver straightening mandrill

>>32861178
Armorer's manual says they're for receiver rebuilds, not maintenance.

>>32861261
After enough flexing they are beyond maintenance, yes

>>32858006
I was thinking like pic related, with the Hensoldt.
>>32858033
>Implying
Mine's an HK91-I pick it up tomorrow.

>>32861532
No pic
And a 2" long red dot and a henny are generally used rather differently. Settle on the purpose and go from there

>>32861013
Sheet metal worker here, Likely not BS, just misunderstood.

Almost all metals flex to some degree, especially pressed firearm parts, but the metal is, to some extent, elastic

You can flex metal and it will return to its natural state as long as you haven't over stressed it past its deformation point where a flex becomes a perminant bend

>>32861631
modulus of elasticity

>>32861698
...and what did you want to say with that? Simply pointing out that you know a term related to solid mechanics?

>>32861721
You were describing the modulus of elasticity, without using the term. That is what 'I wanted to say with that'

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>>32861556
Sorry, I think CAPTCHA at my image.
I really am drawn to the CoD4 G3 look (collapsible stock, HK21 charging handle, OD furniture, bipod), but I feel like buying baby's first battle rifle and omitting an optic would be kinda dumb.
I'm heavily drawn to retro optics. Maybe an old Aimpoint Mk.III, but everyone I know goes REEEEE RED DOTS ON A BR REEEEE.

>>32861782
When there are advocates of using irons, what's wrong with using a dot?

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>>32861782
I think little dots look pretty good on G3s.

>>32861868
This. Plus it lets you go full retard with your HK slap for maximum style points.

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>>32861853
I like them. Was thinking about something like this, minus the screw-on piece. But apparently I'm "better served" with an mid-power optic.
>Tfw building a C1A1 clone, and syrup optics are impossible to find
G-guess I'll just throw a SUIT on...

>>32854778
Probably not at the moment, luckily his days are numbered though. Hopefully he will lose control of his faggot jap scooter at reckless speeds and die a slow painful death with most of his skin smeared off on the pavement. If that doesn't happen he's invetiably going to get t boned by a soccer mom or something at some point. Don't worry anon sometimes you just have to be patient

>>32861767
He wasn't describing shit, that was a separate anon trying to be smarmy. thanks for putting a name to the term for me.

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>>32861910

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So, I've just recently joined the ranks of /brg/ and I have some questions before I take this thing out to shoot it. I've already done my research on tuning the gas system but I have a question relating to the hinging mechanism of this gun. Is there expected to be any play at all between the receiver and trigger housing? I know these aren't precision rifles but I've noticed that when closed up it wiggles ever so slightly, so slight that it took me a while to even notice it. In manually cycling and dry-firing the gun I have not noticed any impediment to its operation but I'm wondering if this is something I may have to send it back to the manufacturer to fix.

>>32862096
>he didnt get a PTR

>>32862177
Cause I'm not poor and I've got the gun 'tism

>>32862096
I doubt it's an issue. Even ARs will have some wiggle between the receivers sometimes.

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>>32862096
nvm, fixed it

>>32862461
An AR doesn't have the front sight on one receiver and the rear sight on the other, though.

>>32862096
Get an oversized locking lug

>>32862096
I will never not hate that stock.
How people like non-para FALs is beyond me.

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>>32862681
What don't you like about it?

>>32862697
It looks sickly. Like some sort of lame animal limping at the back of the pack, waiting for a predator to rip and tear its succulent flesh from its weak and feeble bones. Something about it is just wrong.

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>>32852031
Okay guys help me out, I have the option to buy an SA58 used with 7 mags for $1150. I don't think its a voyager because the cereal # doesn't have "VOY-A" at the end. Is this a good deal for a 1'st battle rifle? Pic related.

>>32862747
Thats probably a voyager

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>>32862814
Okay, Is that a bad thing? Here is the cereal #. Is this a good deal especially with the mags?

>>32862747
I don't see a carry handle. I'm relatively sure that's a voyager too.

>>32852031
Is an AR15 considered a battle rifle? How about a Rem 700 chambered in 243?

>>32862860
No.
No.

>>32862844
DSA Voyager - $999
7 mags - $150-200

Sounds about right

>>32862860
No, the AR15 is an intermediate cartridge and the Rem 700 is a bolt action.

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>>32862844

>>32862846
>>32862876
So is that a no go? Are the voyagers bad rifles?

>>32862894
They're not explicitly speaking good rifles. They're not Century tier though.

>>32862894
DSA isn't great to begin with and the Voyagers cut even more corners.

>>32862894
Voyager is fine.
Its a cast receiver. But modern cast is better than 90s forged. Just be aware its not as desirable. The barrels are green mountain, so not very good. Not completely awful though either.

>>32862907
So am I better off with a PTR then this? I heard PTR's are not very accurate rifles.

>>32862928
>ptr
>inaccruate

Roller delayed blowback is a pretty accurate system, m800.

>>32862928
I would get a PTR over DSA but I'd get a well built FAL kit over a PTR.

G3 clones are inherently more accurate than FALs due to design but it takes you being an actually good shot to notice any difference.

>>32862928
Early PTRs were unrepentant garbage. Newer ones are pretty good.

>>32862942
Then why does no military of importance use it?

>>32862972
>What is the MP5?

>>32862972
No military of importance uses tilting block either. The big 3 are outclassed and outdated at this point.

>>32862972
You're in the wrong general if modern military use is your thing.

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>>32862814
>>32862846
>>32862876
>>32862907
>>32862919
>>32862927
Don't Voyagers have no square cut on the receiver like this? The one above has the cut.

>>32862814
>>32862846
Are you sure? I thought the voyagers only had the 21" barrel. That one looks like the 16"

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>>32863006
An obsolete concept

>>32863008
You are correct sir. Trying to argue which obsolete system is better is squabbling over 5th place.

>>32863048
Type 3? yes

>>32863069
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/dsa-fal-sa58-rifle-voyager-16-premium-threaded-barrel-detail.html?Itemid=0

>>32863048
>>32863069
It's got the weird-ass voyager rear sight and some cursory googling tells my that the voyagers did have some type I and II receivers at some point. I'm not sure about the barrel length though. It's used so maybe someone made some changes to it. I don't know to tell you the truth.

>>32863085
Can the sight be switched out/ worth switching or should I just go PTR?

>>32863116
It can be switched out pretty easily. I'd still go with the PTR over a weird, used DSA though. If you're set on an FAL it may be worth a try though.

>>32863008
>big 3
?

>>32863116
Honestly building an AR10 would yield the best results, and the clearest/cheapest upgrades.

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>>32863188

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>>32863190
Do it homie

>>32863193
>that pic
Noice.

>>32857864
Walther Made one
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/WALTHER-G3-MP5-Red-and-Green-Dot-Sight-Rifle-Scope/32234742179.html

>>32863778
link doesn't work. also probably counterfeit

>>32863778
Do you actually think that was made by a non-airshit company?

>>32863778
>Alliexpress
>Walther made it
Oh you sweet summer child

>>32863832
That doesn't answer my question.

Imported polio, please vote.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12258048
https://www.strawpoll.me/12258048
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12258048
>https://www.strawpoll.me/12258048
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i heard ar10

>>32864752
Oh, you're alive. We thought you went to the great image board in the sky.

>>32864752
>AR-10
>"""pistol"""
Oh boy, this is going places.

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AK fag here. Decided I want to get a FAL. From just observing these threads, it feels like people don't like DSA and the Voyagers. What reasons are there for the dislike? What is a recommended rifle for a first time FAL owner?

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>>32864808

>>32864825
DSA isn't terrible, but they're not great either. They cut a lot of corners for how expensive their rifles are. A kit build, if done well and with good parts, will be a more solid choice. DSA wouldn't be a terrible choice, but you can do better in relatively the same price range, it's just a little more work to find.

>>32864752

>AR-10 pistol

I am honestly intrigued by the thought process behind the creation of such an abomination of a gun.

And the barrel, what barrel are you going to use for it?

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>>32864901
seven point five

>>32853849
Well it's got feces around it so maybe

>>32864928

You're a god damn madman.

That shockwave stock will kick hard into your shoulder though. Hell, my AR-15 pistol gave me a bruise from it because I didn't shoulder pocket it correctly enough.

On some of the DSA rifles, it says that the uppers are cut for a carry handle. Does this mean that any carry handle will attach? Or will I have to use a specific one from them?

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>>32865066
>stock
>shoulder

>>32865089
It should work with any normal FAL carry handle.

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>>32864868
I don't have the ability to put together a rifle right now, what are some decent options for me already assembled?

>>32865129
You can find some good kit builds already assembled. Like I said before, DSA wouldn't be a terrible option, you can just do better. I'd recommend checking out FALfiles and to a lesser extent gunbroker. Avoid any Century builds.

>>32865092

OH SHIT

>>32865183
WADDUP

>>32865895

Not my dead dog

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>>32852031
How hard would it be to put together something like this? It says it has everything except a receiver and magazine.

>>32866668
Sorry forgot link

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/615655238

How would you guys rate the "tier list" of G3 clones? Which ones are in the "shit tier" to be avoided, and which are the best?

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>>32866686
Which clones are you looking at

>>32866693
All of them. Just trying to understand the differences, which to avoid.

>>32866677
I am also interested in this. Are these good kits?

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>>32867192
Mine should arrive on Monday. I'll post pics.

>>32866668
>Off by 2
Not that hard. Needs a few specialized tools.

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Today's the day bros
PTR should be at FFL in a couple hours and it's just a quick 4473 and away to the range.

>>32866720
>>32867471
>>32868099
Could I buy one and send it to someone to build for me? how much would that cost?

>>32854228
Ah yes. The .22 battle-shotgun

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I know they're both considered (((outdated))) but is the FAL or G3 better for an actual, modern battle? Are there any specific conditions that put one ahead of the other?

>>32868494
Yes you can
http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/smith/smith-fal/smith-fal.html

>>32868552
No
No

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>>32868569
Thank you, are these guys any good? and what kind of time frame does this take? Anyone use them before?

>>32868662
ARS is going to be tied for first place in FAL Smith's (Ed Vandenberg too).

I don't know what the lead time is, and check out FALfiles, your not going to find someone more recommended

>>32868552
G3s are more accurate by design.
FALs will last longer by design.

Maintenance doesn't matter in battle, it matters after the battle, so G3 for me.

What is a good reputable upper receiver these days?

>>32869138
Gonna need a little more info, chief.

>>32869147
>>32869138
Sorry man, just woke up, not all here yet. I meant for a FAL. I heard that Coonan was good at one point, but then dropped off and is shit now.

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>>32869180
>Coonan [...]is shit now.
It's true.

>>32869180
Coonan is fine, it's not great, just fine.

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Can I put A1 style furniture on an AR10 with a free floated barrel?
All current AR10s are keymod/rail monstrosities.

>>32869937
A1 style handguards are not free floated.
Stock and grip would work no problem.

>>32869998
>not knowing about the NM freefloat rail for just this

>>32870197
I buy .308 ARs with integral handguards. And if you want AR15 handguards on a .308, your going to need a small frame AR, which means no integral carry handle.

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>>32869346
>Out of spec to the point of being useless

>>32870848
Your husbando is just a princess who doesn't like to use shims.

>>32870976
Of course I'll take your word over one of the most accomplished and well-known FAL builders in the US.

>>32870992
Or take the pulse of people on FALfiles.
Again, your husbando is a pretty princess who likes easy and simple jobs. Shims work, are not awful to use, but take time to get right.

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>>32871023
What's your username on the FALfiles? I'd love to see the builds you've done and the high degree of respect and recognition you get there.

>>32871046
Its - Haywoodjablowme

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>>32871123
Well done friendo. Let us know when you ever do anything of relevance to building FALs.

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>>32871161
Why don't you do the same!

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What mount should I use to put this on a railed PTR? 30mm. Poorfag options perfered, need low profile but clearance for irons.

Also, suggestions for good bipod?

Got the bull barrel so want to make it into a budget long range plinker.

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>>32871675

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>>32871545
I'm not the one claiming to know better than the experts. If you want to try to build on a shitty receiver then go for it. I'd personally rather not have to overcome avoidable manufacturer defects just to reach the level of functional.

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>>32871675
>PTR
>Poorfag options perfered

>>32871785
Your citing a primadonna with /k/ levels of autism (if it's not the best, it's shit). I'm saying that there are more accounts of builds with coonan going right than issues with them.

Coonan doesn't make the best reciever, but they are fine.

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Do you guys think the SCAR-H is the pinnacle of battle rifle development, or will there be another? Who do you think will make it?

>>32871844
Who makes the best receiver, besides FN?

>>32871857
IMBEL

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>>32871800
Nice repeating digits. I'm not sure what argument your Japanese cartoon is meant to construe.

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>>32871873
She sits there to smug at you.

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>>32871887
Because I only make $18.50/hour?

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>>32871896
Y-Yes. That would be the gist of the situation.
You really know how to kill the mood.

>>32871849
The SCAR-H is probably as good as battle rifles will get before hitting the diminishing returns wall; it would be nice to have a slightly longer receiver, better sling mounts, a sturdier buttstock, etc., but not enough for anyone to realistically design a whole new gun with those features that would have to compete with the SCAR for market share, nor for USSOCOM to ask FN for a Mk 17 Mod 1 anytime soon.

>>32871857
LMT

Imbel only comes in shitty type 3 and it's made by Brazilians

>>32871993
Does LMT even make FAL receivers anymore? Imbel may be type 3 and made by BRs but it's forged and well done. I'd take one of those over many other manufacturers.

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>>32871873
stating that poorfag options are preferred for a PTR is redundant

>>32871896
Hope that comes with bonus/commissions on top of that

>>32872044
Not any more.
Currently produced, yes Imbel, but they are sporadically imported.
All that's generally available is DSA and coonan.

>born too late to experience the golden age of firearms in the US
>born too late to score great stuff after the AWB died
>born just in time to witness a trillion AR15s and Glocks destroy aesthetic forever and scour the internet for beat to shit parts

>>32872313
This is the golden age of firearms.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/guns-sold-2016-year-history/

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>>32872313
You can changes the lines of both.

>>32872368
I'd hardly call this the golden age just because shitty ARs and AKs are cheaper. It's nice that we have more gun owners but we lack the sheer variety of firearms that there used to be.

>>32872448
>we lack the sheer variety of firearms that there used to be
If you seriously think that then you are delusional. Check out gunbroker sometime.

Hey guys, just picked up my PTR and I noticed a couple things.
1. Hand guard is not a tight fit and wiggles a bit. Nothing damming just annoying, will fix later.
2. And this is the important one, I have an E, F and S option on my fire select. What's the E stand for?
Haven't gotten to the range yet.

>>32872480
Ein - single

>>32872479
Sure you can find stuff that's super expensive because it's not longer imported. Hell you might even find a few good deals from someone who doesn't know what they have. The import bans have made it so many guns are at least somewhat rare and more expensive than what they should be. There's still some variety but it's not as accessible or sustainable.

>>32872493
Ok, thanks.
So it's Safe, Ein and Full?
I'm worried for my dog if this thing actually goes full auto.

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>>32872559
It's just cosmetic.

>>32872559
Sicher, Einzelfeuer, Feuerstoß

>>32872591
Well, I'm relieved but disappointed.
Like fuckin a fat chick.

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Finally got my first BR. I'm so happy. Got a 1976 HK91 for $2k. What do you guys think?

>>32873302
I thought you were Canadian?

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>>32873302
Looks BRetty gud buddy

>>32873336
Yep. :D

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>>32873302
Nice!

>>32873366
Isn't the HK91 prohibited?

>>32873388
Yep. Doesn't mean they don't exist. This one is paperless, pre-ban.
>>32873355
>>32873368
Thanks guys.

>>32873432
Bretty cool. Do want

>>32873388
He's RCMP, he's just showing off what he stole and added to his collection.

>>32873689
Ex-Infantry, not RCMP. Get it right.

>>32873789
Being ex-mil doesn't mean you are not RCMP

>>32873946
Damnit Hoppes quit trying to mess with me. You know I'm not RCMP.

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>mfw people say FALs can't be DMRs

>>32874352
I wasn't aware putting glass on a gun was all it took to make a DMR.

>>32874366
Technically whatever rifle your DM is using is a DMR.

>>32874366
Considering she lifts her face away from the scope and even closes her eyes while firing, I think it was meant to be a joke.

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>>32874537

Almost done with my project. i got the enhanced PSG buffer and a compensator coming in the mail then i can stop sinking money into it.

>>32874529
For whatever reason I imagined a team of operators with 92FSs and a CX4 Storm DM.

>>32875020
That sounds awful
You should be ashamed

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>>32875040
S-Sorry dad.

>>32875020
>Ghetto team six
>whole crew using .40cal prolem solvas
>DM has a high point carbine with an air soft red dot scope on it.

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>>32875106
Especially in a /brg/ thread

Ready your credit cards /brg/.

http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info.php?products_id=51951

>>32875438
Thats about twice as expensive as an average 50.00

>>32875473
1963 fn fal in a like new condition.


That thing is either a fraud, fell through a space time anomaly, or was in a dry place and forgot about.

>>32875438
At that point why not just save up a few thousand more and get a real one?

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>>32873302
>The first time I ever got to shoot a G3 clone (buddy's PTR) after having nothing but intermediate caliber guns and pistols
>Mfw
I felt like I could take on anything.

>>32875918
First .308 I shot was an M60
Know them feels

>>32875918
Three thousand foot-pounds is a lot of negotiating power. Combined with a 100 round drum mag and full auto you could probably kill a dragon.

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Dear diary,
Do not hide behind small trees if the enemy has a battle rifle.

>>32876759
That's why I keep a few mags of bonded core bullets.

>>32864778
No he's bound for hell. You can still tell when he takes his trip off and shitposts.

The c308 is a perfectly acceptable BR. And a quality rifle at that.

>>32878193
>implying the afterlife with 4chan in it isn't obviously hell

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>>32878193
>The c308 is a perfectly acceptable BR. And a quality rifle at that.

>>32859748
>>32859839
If used, ya, try to get it well under $500. They often go for $580-$600 during sales.

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Overall, what is the most durable rifle, in terms of parts longevity and resistance to wear?

- M14
- FAL
- G3
- SCAR

>>32881713
SCAR by a mile.
FAL is coming in next.
M14 is literally made of glass if accurized, otherwise fine.
G3 has self destructing headspace.

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>>32881741
>self destructing headspace

Are you talking about G3 knockoffs cobbled together in the Khyber pass? I can't even find a picture of a G3 on google images that's gone kaboom.

>>32881783
Not a KB thing. Roller delayed blowback is extremely hard on the bolt group. Needs to be replaced every 6k rounds or so.

>>32881793
The consensus on HKPro is eight thousand rounds. Six thousand extremely hot rounds could do it I guess.

>>32881793
>>32881818

Sauce on this, now I'm curious.

>>32881793
>bolt group needs to be replaced
Not even remotely. The most you'd need to replace if you started having issues are the rollers or locking piece unless you did have some weird catastrophic failure.

>>32881741
>self destructing headspace
I hate this meme. It's a widening bolt gap due to wear.
>You measure "bolt gap". 4 different roller sizes are available and when these rifles come from the factory, they are all set up with the smallest size rollers (so as wear progresses, newer bigger rollers can be used to maintain an acceptable bolt gap).
>After you run out of rollers that will bring your bolt gap into acceptability, you'll need to have the barrel removed and reinstalled so the smallest rollers bring the bolt gap into maximum safe tolerances.

>>32881793
>>32881879
>>32881783
Basically, yes. Every so often you will need to replace the relatively cheap rollers to keep it in head space. At son point you won't be able to get rollers bug enough but at that point you will need to replace the barrel anyway.

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When people say that DSA cuts corners, what is that in reference to?

>>32882528
Off the top of my head cast receivers, shitty barrels, shitty finish.

>>32882528
They produce a rifle that is good enough and sell it at the price of a great rifle because they hold a de facto monopoly.

>>32882528
Cast receivers mostly, the QC on the manufacturing of them (and forged) has gone downhill. This mostly meaning timing issues, having to excessively torque the barrel in or needing shims to get it timed correctly.

They do stand behind their products, and if you get a lemon, they will back it up. But way back in the day, when the receivers were made in house they were much better. More recently when they sourced them out to LMT to make they were the best FAL receivers ever made.

>>32882559
Back when badger barrels made them for DSA, they were pretty sweet. SA58 carbine I had back in the day was 1.5moa with hirt.

What kind of camo should I paint my chingchong M14 stock

>>32882723
blue tiger

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>>32882723
carbon fiber

>>32882723
Rhodieboo.

Canuckistan here.

Just bought an M1A for $2200 CAD +tax.Options are very fucking limited here so I don't care if you think the M1A sucks.

Anyone have an opinion on the best scope mount?

>>32882762
why didn't you just get a norinco famalam

All I can tell you is don't get the promag. For that money I could've gotten an hour with an escort and that would've been a much wiser investment.

>>32882798
>why didn't you just get a norinco famalam
Because I don't like supporting chinamen, and I have doubts about their quality.

>>32882813
So instead you support covetous Jews with questionable quality.

>>32882825
At least those jews are employing North Americans.

>>32882762
One of the reasons the M1A sucks is because there's no good way to mount an optic on it.

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>>32882894
There are, they just arent cheap
Well some are

>>32882894
I'm aware of the difficulties.

The only real other options for a BR in Canada is Robinson Arms XCR or an AR10 and they are always $3000 +

>>32882941
Have you tried asking your local mosque for a Valmet or Zastava in .308?

>>32882926
It looks so badly out of place.

>>32882944
pls dont bully canada

>>32882990
shut your whore mouth

>>32853409
You can always jerry-rig a Cetme forearm if you're not super autistically picky, nobody but me even notices.

>>32883606
Jerry Seinfeld actually wants people to stop suing "jerry-rig". Says it's antisemitic. Use "nigger-rig" instead.

>>32883697
I considered saying "Sakuya-rigged" since he helped me make it fit correctly(thank you senpai), which is worse, "nigger-rigged" or "Sakuya-rigged"? Does anyone know where you can get a clipped/pinned metal lower for a PTR?

>>32871993
imbel is not shit bitch, other than the fact that its the lame type 3 design, they are strong and well built receivers.

>>32884107
Type 3 alone makes them not worth considering unless your building on a south american parts kit.

>>32884142
There's literally nothing wrong with type 3 unless you don't like the aesthetics and even that's just a personal opinion.

>>32884177
Not matching your lower looks like shit.
Not having type I or II lightening cuts looks like shit
Having a SA kits looks like shit

still better than a PTR

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>>32884177
>type 3 unless you don't like the aesthetics
>even that's just a personal opinion

This anon is right I think the type 3 looks just fine.

>>32884228
Thank you for completely validating my post.

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>while G3fags line up at the range FALfuckers line up at the beauty pageant

>>32884275
To shoot their one mag of steel cased ammo for the month?

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>>32880088
i seriously hope he washed his bedspread after that pic, and washed his clothes and taken a shower

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>>32884275
I never realized how much Suzuka looks kinda like MP5.

>>32884314
>not embracing the sweet taste of metal and powder

>>32884411
I'm just thinking about how dirty my fingers get after loading a 30 round mag,

that pic to e just looks like
Lead poisoning: the bed

>>32884431
what?

>>32884431
Are you loading them with unjacketed bullets or something? I mean, I wash up after range trips, but I've never been overly concerned after just loading some mags.

>>32884506
Interesting optic concept.
But it didnt really sell for a reason.

>>32884506
I've heard that you should spend more on your glass than your rifle but that's kind of ridiculous.

>>32852054
why is your rifle next to a pile of shit?

>>32884571
That's actually a SCAR 17S, and the stuff next to it is dog feces, not a rifle.

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>>32884275
>PTR fags shitposting while waiting in line for their EBT card
Kek

>>32884777
>M14fags posting gifs with only one shot fired because it jammed after that shot

>>32884777
>posted while waiting for the gunsmith to bring back an M14 with fixed bedding so he can drop off an M14 with broken bedding

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>>32882723
to each his own.

>>32884943

god that fucking m1a is cancer

i held one and all the weight is in my left hand while holding it, absolute cancer, rail is retarded heavy for no reason and it's 16" in .308 which is god damn useless to begin with

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>>32884571
Memes

>>32884970
lel like I give a fuck. One would think with all the jerkin off you do to your ARs that you would be able to handle the weight.
guess not.

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>>32852031

what do we think of kalashnikov SVK?

>>32885060
slavshit

New thread:
>>32885076
>>32885076
>>32885076