SilencerCo Lays Off Staff

>>32851740
HPA isn't going to pass

>>32851740
yeah.
>owner made racist statements online
>Owner decided to fire employees that called him out
>employees file class action lawsuit against him
>he tries to sell everything off as a screw you to them
tldr: owner is trying to screw over his employees as revenge for outing him

FUCK.

This probably means they have inside knowledge that the HPA won't pass. Fucking Trump fucked us over.

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From an employee.

>>32851740


goodbye maxim 9

>>32851789
>>32851787
>>32851740
you dumbasses

they're worried about the HPA passing and people undercutting the FUCK out of them

And on top of that, sales have absolutely DIED since Trump got elected

No one is afraid so they stopped buying

>>32851803
It's his company, his capital, his choice.

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>we're about to sell like crazy
>with demand like never before seen
>BETTER LAY OFF SOME EMPLOYEES

Wow, they didn't do it very quietly, that's for sure.

>>32851849
I'm ready for the CTR hillshills to start with their nonsense again about how Trump is worse for gun rights than Hillary would have been.

>>32851870
The shitty thing is depending on the Severance/Layoff setup, the people posting it online might not have realized if there was a disclosure clause. They could vary likely not get a severance because they posted online.

>>32851868
>He's still falling for the HPA meme

>>32851740
yea, they filed a complaint to change the name of the company to SuppressorCo™

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>>32851740
has anybody noticed how the CZ, Zastava, and SilencerCo logos are all similar? Is there some conspiracy behind this?

Wonder if the combo of 41f racking up a ton of sales and Trump getting elected has resulted in sales drying up. Kind of like post sandy vag, anyone who wanted an AR bought one, eventually the market bottomed out

>>32851902

new world order illuminati

>>32851921
I knew it.

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Another employee from an earlier post.

>>32851902
Interesting, I never noticed this before. It's probably the just the jews messing around again

>>32851932
>>32851849
Wow I was spot on here >>32851834
and had no evidence to back it up

>>32851740


http://gunboardpedia.com/index.php?title=Silencerco

Can we get a quick rundown on these guys?

>>32851817
You do realize that if the HPA passes itll open up a more competitive market for suppressors right?

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>>32852062

>>32851825
This is what I've been saying for a while now. Imagine if normies could buy suppressors OTC with nothing but a 4473, every single store will be out of stock for years.

I'm buying a suppressor with my refund while I can, and if the wait gets cut short by HPA it will be icing on the cake.

>>32852102
And what happens while everyone waits to save 200 dollars?

>>32852112
Imagine the surge of competition and innovation that would happen if HPA passed. Everyone would be trying to get in on the game, so prices would crash and all of the companies would be trying to out-engineer each other

>>32851740

I hope they fired whoever designed that piece of shit ASR mount they keep trying to meme into success. What a fucking waste of money.

>>32852112
Building is unlimited, and building them has been available online for many, many years.

I see no reason that Normie's will pay 300$ for a fucking can when they can just build them.

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>>32852137
Ohh boy, the suppressor market turns into the garbage chute that is the AR market.

>>32852131
Not just $200, but cheaper suppressors due to a more conpetitive market.

>>32852147
>I see no reason that Normie's will pay XXX$ for a fucking Y when they can just build them
convenience and lack of mechanical skill, anon

>>32852179
do you think silencerco really has enough of a war chest to wait a year for sales to pick back up?

As someone who works in the oil industry I feel the gun industry's pain. What is happening seems very similar to what happened to the oil market the past few years:
>prices go to all time high due to demand
>companies scramble to meet demand and grow like crazy
>tons of other companies pop up
>lots of fat is developed due to bad business practices. You don't have to be good because you're making that much money. You also have to have a lot of people to churn out a product.
>all of a sudden the demand disappears (shillary didn't get in, people are not panic buying any more)
>ridiculous difference between supply and demanded. a glut pop up over night
>prices plummet, cash flow disappears and cash reserves are gone
>companies start cutting fat as fast as possible to not go under
We'll probably see a few businesses go under and others getting boughtout / merging if demand continues to stay low for a while.

>>32852175
Just think of it anon, we get to live through an age of giant quadrail suppressors and magpul suppressors and then throwback suppressors and keymod suppressors and people posting pictures of suppressors that have never been used!

>>32852201
What people do know has nothing to do whether or not employees from SilencerCo know that HPA wont pass

Can't say this is that bad a thing since their product is so obviously overpriced. I have no concerns about suppressor availability. Other companies will step in and/or people can just make their own.

>>32852112

Any 07FFL with a lathe is going to be cranking out suppressors left and right. Many many many machine shops already have their FFLs. So yes, big name suppressors will be out of stock, but nobody is going to give a fuck about QD systems when they can afford a decent direct-thread can for every gun they own.

>>32852215
Same here fellow oil bro.

Although I just got laid off because of a buyout.

>>32852254
>>32852215
fuck im a mech e major in houston and the job hunt is a nightmare right now

when will this end

>>32852218
>Implying consumer choice is a bad thing
Fucking commies I swear. Also you've got me thinking, imagine all the retro suppressors that could be released, old AK style ones, an original Maxim clone, Makarov internal suppressor thing...

>>32852215
>>32852254
Really picked reliable long term careers there.

>>32852249
>decent
>cranked out left and right
Keep telling yourself this. Me, I'm not waiting to see what happens. Paying a tax is shit, but at least it will go to Trump's administration and not Obama or Hillary's.

>>32852281
Already have another job lined up and am getting a 3x salary severance with stk. options.

Stay poor.

>>32852254
>>32852270
I'm in the subsea sector, but what I'm hearing is that there are some good indicators that it will pick up in June.
I was lucky enough to not get paid off and stay busy. Stick in there, it has to get better eventually.

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>>32852287
I think it would be a common thing to see reasonably effective, but pretty heavy direct-thread suppressors that have at least one end permanently welded.

The difference between a titanium and inconel suppressor and a stainless garbage rod isn't going away anytime soon.

We're talking a whole pound less.

>>32852287
it's not like they're very mechanically complex to create...

>>32851902
>Art Deco is a conspiracy theory.

>>32851837
>babby's first ethics

>>32852328
aren't all the good baffle designs kind of complicated? probably not too expensive to machine i guess

>>32852314
I figure if people with little to no knowledge can build them out of "solvent catchers", then it can't be too hard to build a working suppressor with the right equipment. There will still be a place for the high end brand names just like the guns they're attached to. People will be willing to pay for good engineering, smaller size/weight, and improved decibel reduction.

>>32852062
Can I get a quick rundown on GunboardPedia?

>>32852416
the oil filter suppressors are pretty effective as well
>$10 oil filter
>$10 muzzle adapter

>>32852367
So he should make the more ethical decision to run the company into the ground and sink everyone instead of let go of some and save the rest?

>>32851834
>No one is afraid so they stopped buying

I think its more like people don't want to buy a suppressor and wait several months when they could just wait and then get a suppressor, probably at a lower price due to renewed competition, when the HPA passes. Its easier than fucking with the tax refund thing too.

>>32852112
Suppressors will not need a 4473, they are only regulated by the NFA.

>>32852530

I thought they would because they will still legally be considered "firearms"

>>32852512
>no $200 stamp
>probably lower cost to buy
>no multiple-month wait
>you're not on 69 different gov watchlists

>>32852541
They are only considered firearms under the NFA. Unless there's something in the HPA, you will be able to just order suppressors to your house.

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>>32852476

Quick rundown on them:
Dugan and Haley bow to the Bogdanoffs
in contact with Don Jr
rumoured to possess hacking abilities
control banned members of arfcom forums with an iron fist
own forums and websites all over the world
direct descendants of gecko45
will bankroll the phased plasma rifles in the 40watt range (40w GBP will be be the first official plasma caliber) ancient John Titor shitposts tell of two sysadmins who will descend upon the Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented exposure of dirt with them
These are the Gunboardpedia admins
They own shitposting R&D labs around the world
You likely have shitposts inside you right now
The admins are in regular communication with the Archangels Browning and Colt, forwarding the word of God to the unwashed masses
They learned fluent wiki markup in under a week
All websites envy their OPSEC. There's no secrets in the PMs at Glocktalk, only Gunboardpedia
Trump is rumoured to be an editor on Gunboardpedia
own basically every gun forum on Earth
first importable M1 carbines from Korea will be Gunboardpedia Carbines
both admins said to have 200+ cm penises

>>32852481
I actually just talked to some people at the range who were looking into those. They were aware that owning this is a felony

>>32852585

apparently people are selling the "solvent trap" adapters for cash at large gun shows now. if i could pay cash for one I'd get it. Boy I sure do hate getting oil all over my bench.

>>32852552
The HPA does state that suppressors would require a 4473 and NICS check

>>32852481

There are people selling "battery containers" on eBay. Just happen to look like baffles. Coincidence.

Then again, I guess that's an improvement from a few years ago when a guy was on there selling Glock auto selectors for $400 IIRC

>>32852610
Total bullshit, then. They should remove that from it.

>>32852585
Those are legal, but they're NFA afaik.

>>32852585
>>32852646
yes, the adapters are NFA items

If HPA passes, you can just order the items and manufacture your own just like you can make your own guns.

>>32852658

This is where literally anyone that owns a lathe is going to make a killing

>>32852481

pardon my retardation, but how does that work - drill a slightly oversize hole for exit? In theory, of course.

>>32852658
oh man

80% suppressors would be sweeeeet

>>32852685
you don't even need to drill an exit hole, the bullet punches right through

>>32852630
No
It's a paper totem to the antis, fudds, moderated and uninformed that provides no real obstruction to gun owners.

>>32852367
Business is war. Ethics uncompelled by law are purely optional.

>>32852249
Nah, I ithink I'll stick with companies that actually know what they're doing and have designs with published numbers instead of throwing money at a hi-point tier can with rubber wipes and of dubious spec

>>32852737
>No
Yes. Arms legislation in America is muddled enough without voluntarily muddling it further.

>>32852928

Sure, you will. I will. Many people will. Good for you.

Doesn't mean the masses that don't know any better/different aren't going to flood them with cash. As soon as it hits retard-havens like Survival Boards that you can make a suppressor at home they'll be ordering them en masse.

>>32852281
Really boils down to the individuals spending habits. Lots of oilfield guys did the same shit as typical married for Bennies divorce ,upside down on a car, 20k worth of bullshit at my parents house while on unemployment grunt.

Others knew that the rainy days come

>>32852938
>removing suppressors from the NFA and making it so all you have to do is pass a background check is somehow "muddling it further"

>>32852328
Neither are guns. But we see plenty of fuckups there too

>>32852938
The suppressor is already a serialized item and considered a firearm.
How would it muddy the water anymore than doing a 4473 for a serialized lower ?

>>32852147

dude ur a idiot

>>32851740
Turns out Hudson 9 was cooler than maxim 9 at shot show.

Is this the outfit that interviewed Trump Jr?

>go to local class 3 FFL
>ask how long the wait is for any suppressor
>10 months, $200 stamp & cost of can up front

Yeah, I wonder why the suppressor industry is dying. They need to merge with another manufacturer ASAP since Sig Sauer secured a huge military contract. Sig also makes suppressors... and ammo...and accessories...and airsoft guns...and clothing...and optics...and yeah.

>>32851740
Trump's gonna make suppressors legal again and the price will drastically drop when they aren't special anymore. These greedy rats won't be able to charge us $800-1,200 for a fucking pipe full of washers anymore.

>>32851825
If HPA passes I'll build a suppressor that day. I'm damn sure not going to go pay $800 for one.
>b..but if HPA passes we won't be able to supply you with $800 cans
who cares.

>>32851825
>IF it passes wait times will still be ATF eons long
Bullshit. Suppressors aren't that hard to make, The market will make more of them.

>>32852982
And that's not really the market these companies have been working with anyway. I wouldn't call me insulated from the potential damage, but they could survive, at least long enough for the masses to catch on.

But still, I can't help but thing of all the literally who companies making ARs. Wish that effort was put into anything else.

>>32852994
>>32853027
Because then it makes classifying it complicated. It requires NICS check and a 4473, does that mean it's a title I firearm? Will manufacturers need to have an FFL07 to make suppressors? It's not a gun, but will state firearms legislation apply to silencers? What kooky shit will the ATF cook up regarding their importation? Silencers with a sporting purpose? Better off not getting into that bullshit when it can just be stricken from the NFA and become an unregulated device.

Trump facing 53% disapproval, death threats, rioting, has to have fake arms security detail

And you want him to make ANY of the NFA items legal and easily obtainable by the public
The public, remember i referenced a good number of them above
I know donald doesnt have a whole lot of common fucking sense, but come on guys

>>32851740
price gouging only works in a contracting market. You can't gauge your way into an expanding market.

If the HPA *doesn't* pass it's going to be a bloodbath in the suppressor industry.

Right now everyone is in "meh, wait and see" mode. If it doesn't pass, the absolute best the industry could hope for is to return to post 41F sales (which I can assure you are fucking terrible).

If it passes, it will be a gold rush - but you're talking about a bill that wants to take money away from the gov $200 at a time...it's also very easy to paint negatively on normie outlets.

It's going to get interesting, but expect way more layoffs and shuddered doors if it fails.

>>32853117
>believing those (((polls)))

>>32853117

shareblue, plz go

>>32853117
If it's on TV, it's a lie 100%.

>>32852512
This. I want a can more than ever, but I won't start the tax stamp process until I see what happens with the HPA.

>>32853151
same

I'd buy at least three immediately/when prices stabilized after HPA passed. I'd get a 9mm, 5.56, and a .22. And maybe a .30 cal for my AK

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>>32853117
>53% disapproval when he follows through on 100% of his campaign promises within 20 days of being in office

>>32851825
Except for the fact that HPA will likely mean homebuilt silencers are kosher. a tube with homemade baffles ans a thread adapter will be like 50 bucks of time and money.

Any one with a drill and a tap set can make one.

>>32853179
Me too. 9mm, .30, and .22 for me. Minimum.

>>32853190
Anyone still believing polls at this point is a fucking idiot.

>>32853196
This is half the reason I bought a scorpion.

I think tilting barrels will still lead a lot of people to buy factory silencers.

I tell you all this, if HPA is about to pass, I'm ordering threaded barrels for my handguns right there.

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>>32853117
Computer scientist here, I swear to fucking god I could train a neural network to recognize shills. Anyone want to invest? I'm talking a plugin of some kind that would analyze text and instantly determine if it's a shill or not. I'm half serious. These fucking libshits have a vocabulary spanning a whopping 200 words, computers are easily at a point to outsmart them

>>32853196
Anybody with a stove can make better food than half the shit they get from a restaurant. But that takes effort. Hell the only reasons 80%s are popular is "muh unregistered"

>>32853114
It's not complex
When the HPA passes suppressors become classed as a non-nfa firearm.
That means any jerkoff with a class 1 FFL, such as gander mountain, bass pro, academy, will all be able to sell suppressors with just a regular background check.
The only potential back blast will be age requirements (21 most likely) and length requirements (unknown but currently none).
There's really no way to screw with this that wouldn't garner major backlash from pro-gun groups with very Jewish lawyers.

>>32852367
LOL business ethics, that's an oxymoron if I'd ever heard one. Machinists are a diamond dozen and it's a doggy dog world out there.

I'll tell you what his two years of experience will get him, with that and five dollars A(plus tax and tip) he can get a coffee at Starbucks made by an illiterate refugee taking home 60k+ per year in wages+benifits.

>>32853232
I've been looking at Glock barrels and 10/22 barrels. I'll probably drop 2 grand on barrels and cans when it happens.

>>32853234
I can't pay you but I can send you home made pocky, boar burgers and blonde beer sorbet

>>32853271
So it adds them to the GCA, is what you're saying? Yea, that's stupid. But you people always like to settle for mediocrity.

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>>32853272

>>32851868
If the HPA passes there will be a mild bump in sales but as of right now the classic gun buyers with fantasies of living off the grid and fighuthe government are not only not buying but many are panic selling. The only demand is a few leftists who are afraid of right wing death squads. Most of those cucks are just trying to protest the government to make the government exert more power to stop the government from being the government. Aka; they are literally retarded and will not buy a gun let alone a suppressor, they would die in a month tops if modern society stopped functioning.

>>32853302
One step at a time.
Today, suppressors are deregulated to to the level of regular guns.
Tomorrow, full autos deregulated
Soon, 1920's gun laws return so we can ship full auto tommy guns to your door step in violin cases.

>>32853234
I can't pay but I'll shill the fuck out of it.

>>32853272
God fucking starbucks pisses me off too with that shit. I'll share in your rage for a moment, friendo. I've never liked the piss they sell anyway, but needless to say never buying from them again. Glad their stock tanked

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>>32851902
Whenever I see their logo, I have to double take because I think it's this:

>>32853302
>>32853114
>>32853077
>>32852737
>>32852630
>>32852552
>>32852530
Since none of you fuckers actually read the bill:

Basically it moves suppressors out of NFA country and into Title 1 land. Suppressors (if it passes) will now be treated like rifles and shotguns with a buttstock. You can buy them out of state, you can buy them from your buddies and random dudes on armslist, you can make them in your own fucking house. If you buy one from a gun dealer then you will have to fill out a 4473 and pass a background check. Its really not that hard.

>>32851803
fucking prove it you CTR piece of shit.

>>32853234

You're going to train a neural network to recognize 17 year old weebs who copypaste stuff that they know will trigger you?

>>32852928
except hipoints actually work way better than their price point.

at least say jimmenez tier

>>32852215
Sounds like capitalism, you know the only people who keep winning? You guessed it; the Jews who own the banks.

>>32853387
That's what I said asshole!

>>32852604
That's been going on for years.

>>32852481
>>32852585
>>32852604
Solvent trap suppressors are shit and most will blow up after a mag of any intermediate or larger rifle caliber.

the maglite and freeze plug ones are a little better but they're still done for after a few hundred rounds at most.

>>32853001
There is a big difference between a gun and something with zero moving parts.

>>32853387
>Since none of you fuckers actually read the bill:
I just did and it confirmed everything I said about it. It's going to be a clusterfuck if it passes, just you watch.

>>32853077
Seriously, there is absolutely no reason a few dollars of material and a hour (maybe) of labor should cost $1000

I'd say fair market on a quality suppressor if they weren't artificially rare would be around $150.

>>32853387
>will now be treated like rifles and shotguns with a buttstock.

>inb4 people getting arrested in some states just for having a suppressor with no gun in their car, or walking down the street holding a suppressor

>>32853499
Not necessarily. I've done some research into making my own can and using nice materials and assuming I make everything myself its still going to cost me around $5-600 to make a decent quality one with good materials.

Now if a company is doing it en-masse they'll probably be able to bring the unit price down, but there is still machining work and all that other fun stuff.

I just wanted to make one for myself.

>>32853417
They function, as would a cheap as was can, but both have hiccups and like the hi-point, the econo-can would leave much to be desired.

Still want a hi-point carbine though

>>32853459
It's ok, I've had shifty hammers, axes, box end wrenches, knives,and plenty of other shit products too. Don't underestimate the humans ability to fuck up even the simplest task

>>32853530
Bullshit you faggot. They wouldn't cost more than most barrels. This thread is full of retards.

>the land of the free

Kek
E
K

>>32853530
I think a Harris bipod is more complex and uses more material, they go for around $100.

Hell, you can buy some not too bad AR uppers for less than 200$

If suppressors were totally deregulated I bet we'd see shitty Chinese ones coming in under $50

>>32853587
>a Harris bipod is more complex and uses more material
it's really not if you want good baffles

>>32853530
>$5-$600
That's a huge price window pal.

>>32853691
kek

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>>32852346
this guy knows whats up

>>32853091
exactly. every mom and pop shop will start churning them out the second they get a manufacturing license. you can get we're gearing up for that shit right now.

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>>32851887
Stop pretending to be me! I'll tell on you!!!!

>>32853792
nah fuck you

>>32853499
>Seriously, there is absolutely no reason a few dollars of material and a hour (maybe) of labor should cost $1000
Well at least we've gotten away from BOM being the only cost associated with bringing a product to market...

>>32853370
the mystery deepens

>>32853587

You try precision boring a 6" long piece to within -.0000+.0003. The baffles are easier to maintain the tolerance on since its an outside cut of a shorter length but you would want to have it be -.0002-.0003 to keep a nice slip to thumb press for the baffles.

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>>32853196

Looks like the gun bubble burst.

Next up, cheap .22lr.

>>32853234
a neural network is overkill

you can easily accomplish the same thing using bayesian filtering, like is used for spam

>>32851942
kek

>>32852346
double kek

>>32851789
That would only make sense if they ramped up production in anticipation of it passing than found out it wasn't so they cut all the new employees. Except that isn't what happened.

If HPA wasn't going to pass it would be business as usual.

>>32851803
>never trust Hunter 3-1 Actual posts
>always laugh at Hunter 3-1 Actual Posts
>always hide Hunter 3-1 Actual posts

>>32851837
It's not "his company, his capital, his choice". Talk to any investor of that shit show and they'll tell you all about how the managing partners have bought themselves lambos and fancy toys while telling investors there's no money left for them or employees.