Homegrown Militias

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>>32847260
literally RWDS

>>32847260
The IRA were terrorists, stop being an edgy 13 year old and romanticising them

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>>32847260
The IRA was pretty ineffective and only functioned with sold or donated American arms. I wouldn't mind funneling arms into Europe for kebab removal though...

>>32847260
That's not really a militia tho. You're talking about a terrorist organization.

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>>32847275
My great grandfather was in the IRA...

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>>32847282
>That's not really a militia tho. You're talking about a terrorist organization.
If you ask the IRA, they were a militia
If you ask the brits, they were a terror group

>>32847287
And he was a shitbag indirectly (or directly, who knows) complicit in the bombing of hundreds of civilians, all for the sake of "muh struggle", which was just a cover for drug dealing. Sorry senpai, cant choose your family.

>>32847331
great grandfather makes me think he was civil war or independence so no drug dealing

>IRA
>remove kebab

You are aware they were a bunch of drug-dealing communists?

Standard definition: If a group is using violence instead of political action (where political action can induce change peacefully), they're terrorists. If they are under an oppressive regime where there is no way of getting political representation leading to peaceful change they're freedom fighters.

>>32847312
If you ask a Bostonian they were never there and don't know what you're implying, but how 'bout them Patriots.

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>you will never operate innaurban with ar-18's and terrorist /k/uties

>>32847499
You realize Ivan the remover is also a communist drug dealer
lmfao

>>32847287
Did he enjoy knee capping 18 year old weed dealers and getting turned into Swiss cheese by the SAS?

>>32847260
>IRA: terrorists
>Kosovo Kebabs: freedom fighting dindus

one man's terrorist is the Anglosphere's freedom fighter and vice versa...

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>>32847260
Can someone redpill me on the IRA. Someone said they were gun-grabbing commies, you say they removed kebab. both?

>>32847260
They dindu nuffin those 8 year old kids had those nail bombs comin

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>>32847610
He actually lived a happy life, moved to Canada, and eventually the US

>>32847614
>, you say they removed kebab
they wnated to remove fish and chips, yes. kebab? no. back then there was almost no kebab in the isles....

>>32847614
They didn't do shit with shitskins, and don't say redpill you stupid /pol/tard cunt
The IRA started to protect Catholics from Protestant violence in northern Ireland
Then they decided to start peddling drugs and bombing random civilians
Oh, and murdering police and soldiers, both on and off duty
Noble intentions very quickly became terrorist scumbags that gave no fucks about killing little kids for 0 reason

>>32847635
The kids who's deaths he's partially responsible for didnt though did they?
Your grandpappy was a Mick cunt, no better than the shitskins we hate today

>>32847649
did they ever try and confiscate guns though or was the guy who told me that just an ignorant fuck?

>>32847614
Basically, they're slightly more organised Pikey's.

>>32847614
I dont know where this remove kebab notion comes from, they happily accepted guns from Muammar Qaddafi, who was sympathetic to the movement.

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>>32847666
>the bong is mad his great grandpappy got btfo by my great grandpappy
Lel, my family had bants, even 80yrs ago.

>>32847685
>Bong
Nah, I just understand a shitskin tier child murdering terror organisation when I see one you frog posting faggot

>>32847287
Ooh Ah, brother

>>32847260
>Does Europe need another IRA type group to remove kebab?

It needs many to remove leftists who invite kebab. Kebab is a symptom of a very caucasian problem.

>>32847287
>>32847635
>>32847685
>Great grandfather fought for the independence of his nation and safety of its people from sectarian violence
>All his descendant does is avatarfag on 4chan using Pepe the frog
Do you think if he knew how his line would end, he would even have bothered?

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>>32847789
I think he'd send me a time capsule full of bants and firearms to remove kebabs.

>>32847810
Your granddaddy was sucking American and shitskin cock to get those guns

>>32847275
When they bombed places, they would call ahead to the owner so they could blow places up without injuring/killing people. Still, they destroyed things but they did this to cripple their economy which would in turn cripple Britain's economy in the hope the Bongs would keel over and give them what they wanted.

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>>32847832
Whatever lets you sleep at night palm boy

>>32847549
>/k/uties
>picture of mutant with different sized eyes that wears a bag on its head because it is so ugly, not because it is in the IRA

>>32847789
>Do you think if he knew how his line would end, he would even have bothered?
he probably wouldn't give a shit since he migrated to Canada then America. prolly just did what was best for his family at the time just like every other immigrant we've had.

>>32847893
pretty sure it's just the lighting and/or contrast that makes one look larger than the other. black and white probably doesn't help either.

>>32847683
If kebab was giving up their guns to you for free, would you take them?

>>32847260
IM FEELIN IT

>>32847331
Drug dealing is only the modern IRA though, the Ra during the Troubles used to kneecap dealers

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Ask an Irish soldier who had to guard members of the Ra in prison anything

>>32847635
Are you related by chance to a Malcolm?

>>32848164
That's not even true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsAHGu-Z-VA

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>>32848171
I might be
I might not be

>>32848193
It appears you've posted a video supporting what I said though

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>>32848193
>VICE
it's like you bongs don't even try anymore, maybe you can't.

>>32847273
Except that the Provisional IRA was heavily influenced by the Marxist agitators who had been prevelant throughout the Republican movement and the 1960's and still are today (check out Sinn Feins policy on refugees). If you want a legitimate northern Irish RWDS, then look to the loyalist militias like the Shakill Butchers or the UDA. Loyalists are very much on the far right.

>>32848164
>the Ra during the Troubles used to kneecap dealers
RIVAL Drug dealers you fool. It wasn't a civic thing (though considering this meme persists, they obviously spun it that way), they were just dealing to their competition.

>>32848170
Guessing they were all interred? When roughly was this?

Also after the treaty and the Free State was established the RA were just terrorists

>>32847331
bombing a gazzilion civilians, yeah sure brit bong im sure all they wanted was to kill civilians, they are villians and terrorists its what bad people do right? thx dog for the SAS good guys

>>32848206
That doesn't help very much b'y.

>>32847666
back to /pol you storm fag

>>32848385
>yeah sure brit bong im sure all they wanted was to kill civilians
Because there sure were a shitload of security forces in the Mulberry Bush pub? And the La Mon restaurant was of course a hive of covert SAS activity? Gee, what fucking heroes.

>>32847278
>what are Libyan aks
You could at least google them anon

>>32848402
Are you implying this isn't a /pol/ overflow board?

Im Catholic so the IRA are evil to me

>>32847673
If they confiscated guns, it was only to use them themselves. Your guy was an ignorant fuck, sorry.

>>32847868
Right. So explain all the deaths. They didn't always give notice and some notice was like as the bomb went off. No, they killed, they murdered.

Anyone who kills Brits is cool by me, continue what we started in 1775. Fuck Limey.

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>>32847521

>most underrated post of 2017 goes to...

>>32847868
In certain instances, in certain parts of England, certain parts of PIRA did that when it benefited them. No such warnings were given to their civilian victims in the Irish Republic and Northern Ireland.

It's similar to arguing that everyone who robs people at gunpoint, under the threat of death, is fine because sometimes they give the person a chance to hand over everything they own prior to doing as they like with it.

>>32849452
The majority of their victims were local security forces and civilians, who were not British.

>>32849547

They killed Mountbatten though, and mortared 10 Downing which are both well worth it imo.

>>32849567
They also killed anyone who they didn't like in their own community, accusing all sorts of people of being "touts" (whilst their senior leadership was full of people who were on the phone to MI5 every night) when they objected to having their homes used for crimes. Many farmers across Ireland were kidnapped and tortured if they refused to go along with what they demanded. Hundreds went missing, some in their early teens.

They were an armed version of Anti-Fa, a bunch of Marxists who were directly supported by a small amount of the population and reliant on sympathetic left wing media in the US to portray as something that had died about 60 years previously.

If you like that sort of thing then you're free to do so, but they're no different in their beliefs to every hard left gun grabber, thug Mexican and ghetto snitch in the USA.

>>32849615

I don't have to deal with them, they killed Brits and the manner in which they did means little to me. I don't particularly care about the Irish either, but I'd rather Brits die.

>>32847683
Not to mention their support for the pla

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>>32849634
Jean McConville, evil Brit killed by PIRA.

Unfortunately, she was an Irish woman they (wrongly) suspected of informing on them, so they kidnapped her and shot her south of the border and left her body in a hole for 30 years. Oh, and she had a son in the IRA. They really look after their own.

>>32847709
GO HOME BRITISH SOLDERS GO ON HOME HAVE TOU GOT NO FUCKING HOMES OF YOUR OWN
FOR 800 YEARS WE FOUGHT YOU WITH OUT FEAR AND FOR 800 WELL FIGHT YOU SOME MORE.

>>32847260
Militias are more a less useless, if your army wont remove kebab you wont either, and if you try your militia will be btfo by actual soldiers.

You're a moron, OP. The IRA were radical left-wing terrorists who literally supported the PFLP and ran on donations from Gaddafi and Irish-Americans who bought into the romanticism. They weren't good guys and they certainly wouldn't be opposed to immigration from the Muslim world. Their songs are snazzy, but so are ISIS nasheeds, and you're a retard for buying into the messages of them.

>>32849706
Would you like to try a cheeseburger bobby sands?

>>32849742
It's why there was a lot of very happy faces across certain parts of Northern Ireland after 9/11. Seeing American civilians, police officers and firemen melt to death was pleasant viewing for a lot of people.

>>32849615
STILL LIVING LIKE A GANG BANGER ALL MY NIGGAS CRACK DEALING
STILL LIVING LIKE A JACK BOY.

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>>32849430
You know the loyalists started the troubles, right? They bombed Catholic meeting places, and the PIRA formed to counter them. The IRA didn't specifically target civilians, but some did die. That's how war works. That's also not British clay.

>>32849749
All i care about is the guy with the same patch as me.
join a gang or die a bitch, NIGGA.

>>32847275
seconded

>>32849829
>The IRA didn't specifically target civilians
Apart from all the civilians they specifically targeted and killed, yes.

>That's also not British clay.
If you take it and hold it, it's yours. That's how the world works.

You aren't a nigger or an Indian, are you? Because that's Indian and nigger logic.

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https://youtu.be/fhfgQOLSrTQ

This always stuck with me for some reason

>2 British corporals drive past IRA funeral (either by mistake or to do something at the funeral)
>Bottle it and decide to get away as fast as possible
>Crowd surrounds the car
>Drags the 2 men away
>Beats them and leaves them to die
>Priest finds then and gives them their last rites while they bleed to death
>Both of them die

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>mention IRA
>butthurt Britbongs pour out of the woodwork

It's like Russians and Ukraine.

Remember kids, if you kick a dog long enough, it will eventually bite you.

>>32847614
They were different things at different times, and have had a remarkable ability to reinvent themselves.

On the one hand, they did kill a grip of legit British targets, and the Black&Tans did do horrible shit, but on the other they also forced Protestants to carry out suicide bombings.

>>32849890
>Loyalists killed more loyalists than the republicans did
>Republicans killed more Republicans than loyalists did

Wtf paddies come on

>>32850004
CAIN is very odd.

A man I know to be alive and well is listed as being killed in 1971. "British security forces" for certain years includes the Ulster Defence Regiment, and doesn't in other years. Various terrorists are listed as civilians, and various civilians are listed as terrorists. They even got the OP tour dates wrong for the British Infantry, with certain Regiments being listed as being in a particular province when they were elsewhere in the world at the time. Retired police and UDR are listed as active security forces, but former Loyalist terrorists are listed as civilians in certain cases.

The numbers are roughly correct, but the description of who belonged to what is often way off the mark especially during the peak years. It would be more helpful if there was a distinction between the British Army from Britain and the UDR/RUC, as the Army did operational tours with the UDR/RUC expected to have a permanent presence.

>>32847260
I believe that the IRA was justified in their fight. The British conveniently forget that they were assholes to the global community for centuries. That's why we kicked their asses in the American Revolution. That's why the Irish finally had enough and paid them back in kind for the better part of a century.

>>32850177
>by murdering people who lived in northern ireland

>>32850177
>paid them back in kind

Literally how? The ira didnt face the brittish army, they fought the ruc while the brittish were focused on ww1, the ira would have been btfo had the uvf not left for france, the second the brits were done in ww1 the irish beng over and accepted swearing sn oath to the king.

>>32850274
Civilians were openley sympathetic to the protestants and were complacent in the illegal occupation

They had as much blood on their hands as the british.

>>32850454
That's because they were mostly protestants. The Catholics are a minority in NI.

Seeing all you guys gather in Texas. I wondered, why can't you start a militia if the shit hits the fan?

>>32850274
>muh civilians
Yeah, keep telling yourself that the British treated the Irish civilian populace with the utmost respect for the entirety of their occupation. Civilians get killed in every war. When the British killed civilians during the Troubles it was simply labeled collateral damage. When the IRA killed civilians it was labeled terrorism. Seems to be a double standard.

>>32850440
>Implying the British just wrote Ireland off and didn't lose.
>What are The Troubles?
What do they teach you in shitty country besides getting on your knees for the fucking muslims?

>>32850486
>what is demographic replacement for 500 Alex

>>32850486
>deliberately flood NI with protestants
>"w-we swear that protestants are a majority!"

>>32847275
So were the founding fathers. The original IRA may have done some ugly shit, but they weren't the bullshit IRA that came later

I do miss the days when terrorists were Europeans and not Muslims though

>>32847260
>Does Europe need another IRA type group to remove kebab?
The IRA actively allied with kebab anon. The republican community is also pro-EU to the point of cuckoldry.

>>32850832
Oh and the whole murdering innocent people thing but that's a given. They were masters of propaganda though, purposefully avoided hitting American or even Scottish and Welsh targets.

>>32850784
>scottish protestants go to northern ireland before the united kingdom is even a country
>spread protestantism there
>better bomb england and blow up our own streets

Protestants are the minority, yet Unionists are the majority - which really tells you something.

>Yeah, keep telling yourself that the British treated the Irish civilian populace with the utmost respect for the entirety of their occupation
No one said that.

>When the British killed civilians during the Troubles it was simply labeled collateral damage
No it wasn't. It was investigated, and is continually investigated to this day. They tried two soldiers and accused of them of a 1972 murder just the other month.

>When the IRA killed civilians it was labeled terrorism.
And they, along with their opposite number, were given a guarantee after the Good Friday Agreement that they wouldn't be prosecuted for that in the Republic or in the UK.

>What are The Troubles?
Something wholly unconnected to WW1 and a period of history in which nothing, whatsoever, changed as a result of the PIRA campaign.

PIRA started the 1970s with a broad base of support, funding and weapons. They ended the 1990s with none of it, and not a single territorial change.

>>32848621
>Are you implying this isn't a /pol/ overflow board?
/k/ predates /pol/ by many years anon, it even predates /pol/'s predecessor, /new/. If anything /pol/ was created as a containment board itself.

>>32850856
>Scottish

It was pointed out more than once that Scotland and Scottish people were near enough solely responsible for the religious divide in Northern Ireland, yet not a single PIRA bomb went off in Scotland. There's very little written on this subject, but it was a matter of some debate with a lot of the more historically aware Republicans bringing this up.

PIRA's propaganda war was overrated, in terms of its efforts in the UK and Ireland. They couldn't even convince the Republic that what they were doing was reasonable, especially after the bombings in Dublin. Their greatest strength lay in presenting a respectable face to the outside world, particularly to the United States.

Conversely, the Loyalists perfected the internal propaganda but didn't even attempt to show anything to the outside world with most people being unaware that they existed. Both, or what remain, have now adopted the same strategy of trying to reinvent themselves as defenders against degeneracy.

>>32849890
The problem with that graph is it fails to divide dead security forces into 'killed while in uniform and armed' (few) and 'dragged out of pub and shot, blown up while driving home or shit like the corporals here >>32849885 ' (many). And before you say 'that's war' the IRA bitched about having its members ambushed by the SAS and even claimed using the FAL to do so was tantamount to a warcrime because it was so 'high powered'.

That's not to say things were black and white, of course. The loyalists were armed by the intelligence services + pointed at certain targets, training locals to die for you has always been a British tactic and ulsterisation was only the official side of that.

>>32850951
>It was pointed out more than once that Scotland and Scottish people were near enough solely responsible for the religious divide in Northern Ireland, yet not a single PIRA bomb went off in Scotland. There's very little written on this subject, but it was a matter of some debate with a lot of the more historically aware Republicans bringing this up.
Scottish presbyterians anon, not all Scots, an important distinction. The West Coast and Highlands of Scotland have a lot of Catholics, a fair few of which in some cities (most notably Glasgow) are descendants of Irish immigrants. The West Coast also has its loyalist communities, Glasgow again having Orange Order marches, but they are fairly minor. Pissing off the entirely of Scotland would have been foolish particularly since many of those West Coast Catholics helped with their smuggling. Also it was to the benefit of the (P)IRA to ignore history and go for 'celtic' solidarity.

>PIRA's propaganda war was overrated, in terms of its efforts in the UK and Ireland. They couldn't even convince the Republic that what they were doing was reasonable, especially after the bombings in Dublin. Their greatest strength lay in presenting a respectable face to the outside world, particularly to the United States.
Yes, and it is still paying off to this very day.

>>32850951
>yet not a single PIRA bomb went off in Scotland
Also I seem to remember them having bombed a power station in Scotland but that being the only exception to the rule. I'd have to look it up to be sure.

IRA are shitty terrorist communists who were allied with Muslim groups like the Libyans and the PLO.

The original IRA were actually fighting British oppression, the IRA groups since partition are sore losers because Ireland didn't really want them.

Same with other groups like the Basques, they emerged from Fascist Spain, they actually were fighting real, tangible oppression.

IRA is no better than the Red Brigades or Red Army Faction of the 70s.

But if you want anti-Islamic, look at neo-Nazi groups (eg. NSU), not nationalist groups. Many if not most separatist groups were moderately pro-Islam, because that's where they got some external support from.

>>32848170
How well did they get treated, did they have fucking flatscreens in their cells like some of the other scum here do?

The IRA's P.R.I.G would be a great weapon for using against people who like to gather in large groups.

>>32847260
>What is /k/'s view on the IRA?

No one in that situation was in the right. PIRA, Ulster Defense League groups, or the UK government (agents of who worked with the UDL groups committing murder and terrorism).

>>32847868
>When they bombed places, they would call ahead to the owner so they could blow places up without injuring/killing people.

You're thinking of ETA, which is Basque Spain not Ireland. The PIRA were not at all consistent with warnings.

>>32847260
The IRA spent all their time killing protestants, you think they would ever focus on killing Muslims?

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>this is the modern face of the IRA