Is there any real advantage to owning a 5.45 AK over a 7.62?

>>32828788
Longer range than its bigger brother, improved accuracy due to less recoil for the manlets, and better wound cavity dynamics against flesh targets

>>32828788
5.45.
You really don't need another reason. It's a neat-o, effective, and cheap.

You can actually hit shit past 300 yards

>>32829235
Does 7.62x39 have enough recoil to be considered a problem?
I'm 5'8 and have never had problems with recoil

>>32829254
It's not a problem 5.45 is just better

Less recoil means quicker target re-acquisition and follow up shots

>no recoil
>flatter trajectory
>longer effective range
>dat 7N6 penetration
>poison bullet cavitation throughout skinnys

The only advantage 7.62 has is that it transfers more energy to the target, so if you are fighting brick walls within 300 yards 7.62 is the way to go

If you are fighting humans out to 600 5.45 is king

>>32829248
this t b q h f a m
5.45 is awesome to shoot and super cheap, plus no recoil. This past weekend i got two people into funs with my 5.45 AK.

>>32829254
Major problem. 7.62 AK are borderline nonsense to shoot. Some people even find it traumatic. The Soviets developed 5.45 for this very reason

>>32828788
Honestly dude its biggest advantage is that it is cheap. Which is no longer exactly the case.

A loaded 74 weighs less than an empty 47, with magazine.

>>32830286
>Which is no longer exactly the case.

>22-24 cents a round
>not cheap

>>32828788
It's a meme round just like 308 dude.
It's different to be different
>unproven in combat
>unstable in flight (look up keyhole)
>corrosive as fuck
>banned from import (due to most of them being armor piercing)
>Moonrunes on the box
THEre is no reason to on an ak in 2017, and there is NO REASON to own anything in 5.45 meme rounds

>>32829235
>>32829248
>>32829251
>>32829319
>>32829327
>>32830318
>>32830320
How about hunting? I'm looking for it for an shtf gun and I'd like to be able to hunt with it as well, I'd assume it's similar to 5.56 with hunting deer and boar. How about availability if shit goes down? I know obviously not as common as 7.62 but I would hopefully be able to stock up on it since it's still fairly cheap. Parts ect. how about that?

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>>32830371
5.45 Vmax can take white tail

>>32830403
nice, thanks.

>>32830352
this
/thread

>>32830371
7.62x39 performs similarly to 30-30 so it's nearly ideal for deer.

>>32830534
This is an anti faggot thread, and since you're a flaming homosexual, I'm going to have to ask you to leave.

>>32829364
>Major problem. 7.62 AK are borderline nonsense to shoot. Some people even find it traumatic.
Literally what? I'm 5'6 110lbs and shoot 7.62x39 all day.

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>>32830584
>5'6"
>110lbs
Fug hawt post em pics!

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>>32830584

>>32830352
this DESU
EVERY round is a meme round other then 300 blackout and .40 s&w

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>>32830584

I bought mine because I found a crazy good deal and didn't care about the caliber. Just wanted an AK. Is an AR-15 better than 7.62 or 5.45 AK? Probably. I don't buy all my guns because they're practical.

>>32830621
I understand that but I'm specifically looking for practicality here. I've been wanting an AK and if I get a shtf gun why not get one I want?

>>32830604
I'm not a meme you worthless double nigger
And don't even pretend to be something similar to me.
I fucking hate you faggot pretenders smearing my name and my reputation

>>32830604
this
>>32830688
fuck you pretender, I'm the real Hunter

>>32830352
>>32830534
>>32830604
>>32830688
>>32830709
>pretending to be cancer in 2013+4
I can do this too kids
>search desuarchive for "Hunter 3-1 Actual
>find over 2,000 hits
>realize the level of shitposting recquired to post 2000 fucking times
>the autism is real.jpg

>>32830645

In that case, 5.45 is slightly more practical since it's lighter, has less recoil, and is suitable for use past 300 yards. The only real difference for 99% of owners is the weight.

>>32830584

>post your tits

>>32829251
400 yards isn't even pushing 762x39
I shoot that far with it and it feels no different than 545.

>>32830688
Your reputation as a clinically retarded attention whore is fully intact, as is the bit about you being completely blind to the signs of complete community rejection.

We didn't even have a group identity before you showed up, but we are now united as "that which thinks that hunter 3-1 actual should die from horse cock trauma"

>>32830795
eat a dick/10
I am beyond your comprehension
I am the pinnacle of enlightened posters
I am a god among men
I am entrusted with proprietary and secret knowledge
I am a hero of the group anonymous
But I AM NOT A MEME
Get that throught your head
>>32830852
>implying thats an argument

>>32830973
Implying your older then 15

>>32831012
>he can't even imply right

>>32831012
developmentally? I mean, there's a fair chance his physical body is older than that.

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>>32830352

>>32831046
I am picturing something like the precogs in Minority Report, except in a re-purposed aquarium in a trailer park in the florida panhandle.

>>32830403
When did Krink Poodle hunter guy get a 105?

>>32831061
>implying hunter is ever wrong

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>>32828788
Can anyone recommend a good 5.45 AK that is not a Century. I know about Arsenal. Are there others?

>>32831134
this
>>32831113
there is no such thing amigo.
I am Hunter. Enlightener of noobs

>>32831113
Your only options are an slr104 or a vepr.

>>32831113
>wanting garbage
get a HK416 or a Scar or an ACR or UMP
everything else is outdated bro

>>32830403
Wtf
>milled
>third pin
>folding stock
I am confused.

>>32831259
>daewoo being retarded
not surprised
Frankenguns are common here

>>32831113
Have you considered suicide?

>>32831304
Yes

>>32831324
>pretending to be me.
It's time to stop posting kid
It's night/k/ now.
Get out. DOn't make me go HIGH NOON on your ass

>>32831113
Early Waffen Werks
Saiga 5.45x39
Vepr 5.45x39

You buying a parts kit and finding a builder....

Unfortunately our option here are a bit limited

>>32831109
You're not necessarily wrong, you're just an asshole. Everything looks like a meme round to Hunter 3-1 Actual Faggot Meme Master, King of the Cock Gobbling Thread Retailers.

>>32831363
SAR2->aims clone

>>32831395
*Derailers
What the fuck, phone, why you gotta do this to me

>>32830320
7.62x39 is 20-21cpr so it's cheaper. I wouldn't say cost of ammo compared to the 7.62 is what it has going for it, but the difference is negligible

Bumping for quality content posts

Ammo is lighter, besides that no.

>>32831395
>>32831413
lol faggot.
Not a meme. I am the only one that ever trolls Hunter 3-1. I hate to agree with him, but he is no meme
>>32831513
>oh look its a newfag pretending to be hunter

>>32829319
>7.62 doesnt recoil for shit with even the stock 74 brake, srvv jet brake brings it down to 5.45 level, its ridiculous, concussion is fucked though

>trajectory doesnt mean shit when the rounds end up landing on target

>500 yards is the absolute max for the AK, both 5.45 and 7.62 are rocks at this range, 5.45 even worse so as it has very little energy left, the projectile has probably been blown off course by wind at this point anyway, 7.62 holds up against wind better

>7n6 is banned and drying up

>7n6 yaws a few inches sooner then 7.62 if you want to compare military ball rounds, but why you would use these for SHTF is beyond me when quality hollow points are available, your fucked with 5.45 since only 2 places make ammo for the U.S and it's only ball ammo
5.45 blows

>>32829364
it was adopted on short notice in response to the 5.56, kalashnikov said it was a horrible idea and a mistake.

>>32830732

7.62 AK's if zeroed right are point and shoot with no adjustment or hold overs out to 300m, rob ski shot sub moa at 500 yards with 7.62, accuracy is a shooters skill level, you will never shoot good enough to notice the SLIGHT accuracy bonus of 5.45

Meanwhile in ukraine

>dumping 5.45

>going back to 7.62x39

>>32831679
I didn't call him a meme, I called him an asshole and a derailer of threads. Lrn2readingcomprehension

>>32830371
It's generally extremely bad and in most places illegal for hunting.
>37 of the 48 states that allow bottlenecked rifle rounds for hunting have a minimum bore diameter of .224", precluding 5.45 from use
>all 50 states require large game (deer, elk, etc) to be hunted with brass or gilding-metal jacketed expanding ammunition, thus precluding everything but Hornady in 5.45
>wound profiles of ALL available rounds are extremely subpar for hunting--"military' style bullets (7n6, 7n10, all Wolf/Tula/Barnaul/RAS) yaw and tumble too late, Hornady's Vmax load doesn't achieve sufficient penetration (<10")

It will basically not be available if shit goes down. As it is, there's like 2 stores nationwide that stock any quantity of it and it's primarily sold through online wholesalers like SGAmmo.

Parts are decently common and decently priced.

Good thread on how weak of a caliber 5.45 is, especially with underpowered commercial ball ammo (all thats available for 5.45 in the U.S)

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=293452

>>32830320
It's no longer any cheaper than 7.62x39 or 5.56 when comparing similar quality (steel cased) ammo, and generally SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive when comparing even the worst of the brass-cased or softpoint loads.

>huh huh huh muh banned poison bullet that is banned and the supply gets smaller and smaller by the day

>B-But its better then 7.62 ball guys

>using ball ammo ever for serious intended use
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIFkLAgGy6w&spfreload=10

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>>32831811
>not having a few crates of 7n6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ENhmMKuaVU&spfreload=10

>>32831773
learn to spell faggot
Hunter 3-1 is right (FOR ONCE)
5.45 is a garbage round

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzQ6fdG6rwo&spfreload=10

>>32831833
>not shooting 5,000+ rounds a year
A couple crates is all well and good if you never actually shoot it (which, fuck, this is /k/ half the people on here haven't fired 500 rounds in their entire lives), but being able to replace it when you do is pretty fucking important to most people.

5.45x39.5 is a communist copy of the U.S 5.56x45, and a rather poor attempt at it.

>>32831833

I shoot 300 rounds every weekend, thats not even a 6 month supply.

>>32831861
tumble vs. fragmentation... different concepts.

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>>32831845

>>32831865

The commies didn't know what caused 5.56 to inflict tremendous tissue damage, so their response was to design the projectile so it would destabilize once it hit something, An extremely lazy and half assed design, but hey were talking communist russia here.


Lucky for them the projectile is also easily deflected by light cover, bushes,brush,ect.....oh wait thats bad.


Not to mention it's heavily influenced by wind, being a pea shooter .21 caliber and all,
Unless you own a select fire kalashnikov you will never see the benefit of 5.45x39.5

>>32831878


see the above videos, that fuckin sucks compared to 7.62

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>>32831878

>>32830403
That deer looks blind af.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chiTUvryG5U&t=156s&spfreload=10

>>32831845
God, but you're a salty bitch. Just let people have fun. If you got shot with 7n6 round you'd still die. It's fine.

>>32831878
>bullet already sideways at impact
Good luck hitting anything past the point of your bayonet.

Also good luck not hitting your bayonet.

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>>32831861
Kek what a faggot

>>32831914
I was capturing the tumble faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtlElIiZQp0&spfreload=10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qiq3szgZgjI&spfreload=10

>>32831948

And? it still sucks ass compared to 7.62's tissue damage, tumbling is bad.

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>>32831968

>>32831940
Having been shot with 7n6 at very close range, generally no.
>bullet entered lower forearm at roughly 90* angle
>bullet hit radius and took a 90* left turn, exited forearm higher up
>did not break radius
>did not cause extensive tissue damage or significantly impair me in any way

>>32831984

.22LR has killed people too whats your point?

Whats your argument to the inferiority of 5.45 compared to 7.62?

>>32831986

They afghans dubbed 7n6 the poison bullet because it didn't kill them when hit, it killed them weeks later after those hit with 5.45 walked off the battlefield and died of infection.

>>32831940
Assuming the round even hits what you are shooting at
I expect like 50 foot groups with that keyhole POS round
>>32831943
This

>>32832004
And American soldiers have been experiencing much the same thing for the last 15+ years in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Although it really makes me wonder why, after decades of fighting the Soviets, the Muj in Afghanistan all of a sudden decided 5.45 was the greatest thing ever and used it as often as they could against the US when they knew first-hand how fucking bad it was at killing things.

>>32831986
So what you're saying is you were shot in a small limb and for some reason didn't die? Curious.

>>32831716
But muh special snowflake round

>>32832256
I was shot in a small limb that was directly over my stomach at about 60 yards and it ricocheted off a bone less than half an inch in diameter and exited without doing any appreciable damage instead of breaking the bone and continuing on to penetrate my gut. Unlike 5.56, 7.62x39, or .308 or 7.62x54r.

I'm also saying that this particular anecdote seems to be the typical wound of 5.45 instead of an outlier, judging by the literally thousands of similar wounds during the Soviet war in Afghanistan, both Chechen wars, Operation Enduring Freedom, and Operation Iraqi Freedom.

>>32831986
>no proof
>unbelieavable
>4chan
SHut up hunter 3-1

>>32828788
5.45 is just harder to find 5.56.

Makes great sense to have it if you live in Eastern Europe, not as much sense if you live in the USA unless you have thousands of rounds

>>32830584
>Literally what? I'm 5'6 110lbs and shoot 7.62x39 all day.

Post feminine benis rn.

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I have supplemented the need for a .22lr rifle with having a 5.45x39 AK.

>>32831818

People make brass 5.45? I was under the impression it was all steel case. Fuck, even the hornady stuff is steel cased.

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>>32832330
>no cleaning rod
You blew it

>>32832370
Prvi does on occasion. There's not much out there.

Same deal with brass-jacketed bullets, Hornady is pretty much it, everyone else uses bimetal.

>>32832300
At this point, I'm done saying semi-retarded suit to make Hunter 3-1 Actual Faggot Meme Master react, I'm genuinely interested. Have you seen sounds of the other calibers?

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>>32832453
Yes, I've seen a lot of 5.56 M855 wounds, 7.62x51 M80 ball wounds, and 7.62x39 [unknown but probably m67] wounds. A few 7.62x54r wounds, including one in me that laid me out for months after penetrating my soft armor.
>have also seen .50bmg ball, API, and SLAP wounds but it's a fucking .50 regardless, theyded.jpg

Beyond a shadow of a doubt 5.45 was the least severe, and that's pretty fucking impressive considering how underwhelming M855 is. Several of my squadmates had it fail to penetrate their soft armor at <100m and one whose Sawfly goggles deflected a near-straight-on hit enough to save his life at ~20 feet (and you can literally bend those lenses with 1 finger).

Pic related is 5.45 in my forearm.

>>32832585
Hmm. That's really interesting. I was saving up for a 74, but now I don't know. You really can't argue with actual combat results, and fuck me if I'm going to load every mag with 40gr Vmax. Now I'm not sure what I want to do. Thanks for sharing, cool stuff man.

>>32829251
I think you just suck

>>32829251
I think you just suck
>>32829364
Stick to .22lr, kiddo

>>32832585

Where does the M67 rank?

You can't tell me that is more gnarly than 7n6.

>>32828788
For a civilian, the only advantage disappeared when the surplus dried up. You could get a thousand 5.45 for about 5 cents and a pinch of Cope.
Be cost conscious. Buy it cheap. Stack it deep.

>>32832004
Any bullet will do that dumbass. Afghans don't know understand hygiene and cleaning wounds

>>32829364
Aren't you that fag that got PTSD from the AR?

>>32828788
It used to be really cheap, so cheap you could stock up on 10,000+ rounds within a couple paychecks. That made it good for SHTF because even though it's more rare and probably can't be scavenged, you have so much of it you don't need to.

It performs so similarly to .223, plus .223 has a variety of loadouts, that if it's not cheap I can't justify buying it over a .223 gun (assuming you live in the states where it's a common round). I don't think I've ever seen it in local stores unless it was some specialty priced stuff. The surplus was really the only good source.

With all that said, .223/5.45 size rounds imo are a waste. In SHTF or any combat situation you want a round that can penetrate cover effectively, because newsflash people don't just stand in the open and shoot at you. The AK round can fuck through a car, a brick wall, a tree, and still kill when it comes out the other side. The lighter rounds get thrown off course, and at range aren't as effective. Sure a .223 shoots flatter out past 400y, but it won't penetrate a windshield at that distance, it's ballistically ineffective at that range on flesh, it will not fragment or in the 5.45s case yaw. The 7.62x39 arcs, but it'll fuck up whatever it hits at that distance. Conveniently all standard AK sights have quick elevation adjust.

Something else to consider, a full size cartridge like .308 negates the trade-offs of any of those intermediates. But if I had to go intermediate, it's always 7.62x39. If I need better performance at range, jump straight to .308/7.62x51. There's no reason to fuck around in between with .223 or 5.45, which are mainly designed for troops engaging in suppressive fire. I'm not a part of any army unit and will not be engaging in suppressive fire, weight saving is not as much of a consideration.

>>32832784
Assuming the majority of 5.45 wounds I saw were 7n6 or 7n10, yeah easily. M67 punched through shit 5.45 would not, and being in Mosul that meant we shot into buildings quite frequently (as did the IA's and IP's, who used 7.62x39 for the most part).

When hitting squishy bits like the gut, 5.45 yawed a little sooner but would fail to exit most of the time. 7.62x39 exited almost every time unless stopped by armor or non-flesh barrier pretty much regardless of where it hit, and left exit holes you could fit 2-3 fingers in. If 5.45 hit muscle or bone it would usually either veer off without tumbling or stop cold, wounds not in the chest or gut were quite minor. I'd say that around 95% of the people shot somewhere other than in the head with 5.45 lived (this includes enemy fighters and local noncombatants, not just US personnel) even when surgical care was hours or days away. With 7.62x39 it was around 60% that lived, and around 15% that lived when hit by 7.62x51 M80 (though this is in large part due to they were almost always getting hit 4-5x with that due to GPMG). 5.56 M855 was...really hard to tell. We tended to shoot the same guy a lot. Very few survived it, but very few people got hit less than 3x in the vitals. The wounds were pretty devastating though, it would literally explode bones and generally fragmented well at the ranges we normally engaged at (sub-100m since innacity).

7.62x54r lethality was all over the place, we had wounds from 3 different countries' light ball, 3 different countries' heavy ball/sniper, API-T, true AP, fucking cast-bullet handloads (the kurds had a lot of nuggets and were generally pretty good with them), and commercial match ammo. The commercial match ammo was by far the nastiest as it generally fragmented within the first 1.5-2", but also had the least likelihood of penetrating our armor.
>ESAPI's will indeed stop 7.62x54r AP reliably

>>32832960
Two other things to consider in defense of the .223/5.56, it's a great law enforcement round. It doesn't over-penetrate as much as 7.62, so if you're one of those that thinks you need a rifle for HD, don't, but it's a better choice.

Ammo is also the easiest to scavenge considering the popularity, but know the shelves will be empty of it day 1 of there even being rumors of SHTF, so it's more for coming across some fat preppers stash, raiding a military depot, or some other unrealistic scenario.

Best thing always is to stock your own shit. 7.62x39 is the cheapest effective and common caliber to do that.

>>32832960
Pretty much everything fully penetrates cars, even 115gr 9mm goes right through them. Most 5.56 loads will go right through brick walls too. Yeah, trees stop them. Trees stop almost everything though, including 12ga slugs and .300wm.

5.56 carries more energy at 300m than 7.62x39. At 500m it carries twice the energy. From a 14.5" barrel most 5.56/.223 bonded softpoints will achieve 100% diameter expansion out to 550m (1800fps threshold)

5.56 sure as fuck will go through a windshield at 400m. Yes it will deflect some, but so does pretty much everything else.

>>32828788
the cheapest 5.45x39 has great terminal ballistics, for one thing.

ammo popularity doesn't matter much when there's a drought anyway, every round you have in your magazine is worth 50 you would have to overpay for in some fat neckbeard's hands

stock up and don't worry if everyone else is shooting the same shit.

>>32833094
Not the engine block.

Nope.

Nope.

>>32833132
Nothing short of SLAP even from a .50bmg will penetrate all the way through an engine.

Yes, look at energy charts for any of the military or hunting rounds in 5.56.

I have personally shot windshields out to 700m with a 14.5" barreled rifle in 5.56 and it penetrated just fine even with M855.

>>32829364

Only someone who'd get PTSD from firing an AR. It does have a lot more recoil than a 74, but that's because the 74 has an almost absurd level of no recoil whatsoever. Less than an Ar15 was for me which blows my mind.

Given 99% of the chance/time will be range queening it rahter than SHTF, you'll be fine. If it SHTF then you can just kill some nigger with an AR or a standard AK. And ideally you'll have more than just the 5.45. Also not liable to be getting into long drawn out suppressive firefights in SHTF.

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>>32832300
>>32832585
>>32832967
>5.45 is ricochets off of bone
>5.45 often does not penetrate kevlar
>5.45 fails to exit on gut shots
KYS. 7N6 can literally out-penetrate 308 on trees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=547BKysByqM
>pic related

>>32831898
>Not to mention it's heavily influenced by wind, being a pea shooter .21 caliber and all,

It has a ballistic coefficient similar to mk262, try again. Both of those have less wind drift than any 7.62x39 load.

>>32829319
>The only advantage 7.62 has is that it transfers more energy to the target
>muh kinetic energy transfer

nice fuddlore, bro

>>32831716
>7.62 doesnt recoil for shit with even the stock 74 brake, srvv jet brake brings it down to 5.45 level, its ridiculous, concussion is fucked though
My SGL-31 with DTK-2 brake does not move at all with the gun simply touching my shoulder. The only perceivable movement is in the BCG. Without a brake 5.45 recoil is still noticeably less than 5.56.

>>32832967
>we had wounds from 3 different countries' light ball, 3 different countries' heavy ball/sniper, API-T, true AP, fucking cast-bullet handloads (the kurds had a lot of nuggets and were generally pretty good with them), and commercial match ammo. The commercial match ammo was by far the nastiest as it generally fragmented within the first 1.5-2", but also had the least likelihood of penetrating our armor.

Why the hell does a guy running around Mosul that does all of checking case factory stampings/researching arsenal codes, plotting that data against bullets that actually are still inside or went through people while also tracking the efficacy of all of those rounds, and also either being with coroners/field surgeons and/or operating on enemy combatants and wounded friendlies and tracking all of this data during urban fighting all sound a little far-fetched?

>>32830352
I miss Hunter 2-1.

And the Irish Cop from a containment board who turned out to be a roleplaying kid.

I've been here too long.

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>>32834416
>Bullet ricochets of your bone after you get shot
That must be a special kind of pain damn.

>>32834561
Only some pistol calibers will do this regularly. Rifle rounds will not do this.

>>32829319
>>32829254
>Less recoil means quicker target re-acquisition and follow up shots
Reminder that soviet doctrine was built around automatic fire. Burgers perception of guns comes from semi-auto only experience.

>>32831898
>The commies didn't know what caused 5.56 to inflict tremendous tissue damage
The did but fragmentation bullets were "no-no" because of the soviet interpretation of Hague convention. Also soviet ballistic tests showed test 5.45 is very comparable to 5.56 in terminal ballistics, slightly less damaging at 100 meters, slightly better at 300. 7.62 was POS.

>>32831861
5.45 is fantastic round considering all soviet limitations and doctrinal requirements.
Less recoil what is very important for automatic fire accuracy.
Lighter.
Better ballistic coefficient than M855 despite been lighter. 7N6 has best form factor among military bullets ever.
Everything made from steel, better for mass production.
Better barriers penetration because of steel core, again very important military quality.

Direct copy of 5.56 from soviets point of view is lacking and simply no go because of deficit materials used.

>>32828788
More accurate, lighter, similar cost, 1/3rd the recoil.
I once made a thread asking what advantages the 7.62 has over the 5.45. All I can say about the 7.62 is that it fares better in windy conditions, and that rifles chambered for it are still abundant and cheap.

>>32834614
>All I can say about the 7.62 is that it fares better in windy conditions
Fun fact: 7N6 has less wind drift than 57-N-231.

>>32834614
>once made a thread asking what advantages the 7.62 has over the 5.45. All I can say about the 7.62 is that it fares better in windy conditions
This is categorically false.

>>32834601
>Reminder that soviet doctrine was built around automatic fire. Burgers perception of guns comes from semi-auto only experience.

t. abu hajaar's retarded cousin

https://youtu.be/b2G-lh-GL6s

>>32834654
My ballistic calculators say otherwise, but not by much. Then, maybe I should use a better calculator.

>>32834601
>Better barriers penetration because of steel core,

This is bullshit. So much bullshit everyone repeats it even though it isn't true. Mild steel is equal to copper jacketed lead bullets for most purposes.

>>32834670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=547BKysByqM

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>>32834664

>>32834677
Seen it.

It's a smaller diameter bullet.

>>32834685
>It's a smaller diameter bullet
So a 5.56 penetrating less doesn't mean anything?

>>32834677
It is not even steel core just jacket made of mild steel vs copper jacket...

>>32832063
>Although it really makes me wonder why, after decades of fighting the Soviets, the Muj in Afghanistan all of a sudden decided 5.45 was the greatest thing ever and used it as often as they could against the US when they knew first-hand how fucking bad it was at killing things.

Never underestimate the power of memes.

>>32831064
>a trailer park in the florida panhandle.
from the department of redundancy department

>>32834719
>It is not even steel core
>7n6
>not steel core

>>32832004
Here I thought it was because of the violent yawing, their surgeons were not skilled enough to remove the bullet and so they were poisoned by it after a while.

>>32831787
Thank you. I'm glad I came back here to see if anyone other than hunter posted. I guess I'll go with 7.62 then thanks man.

>>32834995
Told you 5.45 was a meme round
I'm never wrong

>>32835119
I thought I remembered the real hunter 2-1 being funny, but at this point it's so hard to know if it's someone trolling as you, or just you trolling

>>32829254
7.62x39 is an easy shooter, but shooting a 5.45 is shockingly gentle

>>32832960
You and I have a similar thought process.
Close range combat requires good barrier penetration.

>>32828788
None imo

>>32828788
More rounds on target faster always wins. That's what you get with the lower recoil of 5.45 vs 7.62.

>>32830584
I don't care if you are a man or woman I want to fuck you anyway.

>>32828788
It has all the advantages 5.56 has over 7.62x39. So basically its better in every way except for barrier penetration.

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>>32830598
>>32830749
>>32832321
>>32837232
Idk why I expected anything less.