Bunker Map

>>32809922
So, what's stopping someone from taking the place from you after you take it from the original owners? Checkmate, dipshit.

>>32809922
Depends on a shitload of factors.

If they paid 3 million for a bunker. It's probably fitted with the works. Blast doors no ordinary torch will cut, 12 inch concrete walls likely lead lined and with additional steel plating preventing a sapping attempt.

You could always find and destroy/plug ventilation ports, but a smart bunker architect would create multiple that span in all directions for varying distances, to make total blockage impossible. You can't destroy the ventilation equipment because it's likely located inside the bunker.

If they spent 3 million for it, you bet your ass all they need is "that one door" to stop you.

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>>32810700
Mustard gas into the ventilation shafts, plasma torch and explosives to the door.
We bunker busters now?

>>32810700
I would try converting a 55+gallon drum into an explosively formed penetrator, hypothetically.

I don't think any shitty ANFO mix would work to properly form the copper penetrator though, det velocity too low.

>>32812260
That's what TNT is for.

>>32812305
once you get a hole punched into it you can jam more explosives into the hole, among other options

>blow bunker open, probably killing the inhabitants with the sheer force of the blast wave
>there is now a giant hole in the bunker
>bunker is more of a cave than anything now

>>32812320
Yeah, but I don't think filling the hole's going to be too effective against steel doors. It's just going to direct the blast away. You'd be better off with consecutive shaped charges.

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>>32812338
Bunkers worth breaking into are not small enough to kill everyone inside with a small blast.

>>32812343
>>32812338
I don't think it would be easy for someone to forcibly enter it without making it unsuitable as a means to keep out the lesser raiders.

Unless you can convince the inhatibants to open the door.

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>>32812368
>I don't think it would be easy for someone to forcibly enter it without making it unsuitable as a means to keep out the lesser raiders.
The fact that we entered it in the first place is proof that it's incapable of holding out raiders. Concealment is what you need, not thick bunker doors that just take time and effort to get through.
Unless you of course have murderholes and shafts for grenades and the like. Also grenades and the like.

>>32812365
What are the outer walls made of? Curved concrete is a P.I.T.A. to make.

>>32812933
Probably ex silo.

>>32809922
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doesn't look hard to get in at all. doomsday preppers had a guy wiht a bunker deep innawoods and they did not disclose the location, just showed footage from the inside. was pretty good.

>>32812248
>>32812260
>>32812320
>>32812338
>>32812384

>Blowing a hole in doors that are made to withstand a nuclear blast

You guys are retards. The amount of time and effort just wouldn't be worth it. Plus I'm sure the inhabitants would have ample time to kill you while you dicked around with the explosives.

>>32813110
>Doors designed to withstand sheer shock wave force can automatically stand up to EFPs (ie shaped charges) as a result
You're a retard

>>32812365
>>32809922
without a nuke reactor for power, diesel powered bunkers aren't that long lasting. you'd need to have tanks bigger than your actual living space to accomplish anything.

>>32812365
the 3 gun safes are a nice touch

>>32813143
the doors a windowdressing. an excavator could get in from the sides in 2 hours.

>>32813110
>uniform air pressure as in a nuclear blast on the whole door is the same as the pressure generated by an EFP on a tiny spot

OP here.
I think you guys are missing a few points.

>first off how many people are going to know about all these bunkers and it isn't fallout where you are constantly raided
>the bunker has valuable stuff in it, so even if vulnerable to attack (because of the hole we made) we can take what we want and do whatever, leave or stay
>lastly, most of these bunkers have tough doors, but it isn't think metal everywhere. A few guys with shovels and jackhammers could find vulnerabilities. Keep in mind time is on our side. They are trapped in the bunker.

>>32812248
>plasma torch
Anon I don't think you know how those work

>>32809922
They'll come out, no future underground. Might take 5 years or 50 years but unless there is a self-propagating population living down there it's just an expensive coffin. And if the surface is just toasty glass it's game over anyways.

Opposite approach:

>no doubt camera (possible intercom) at entrance
>be well fed/clean/dressed in clean, in-tact attire
>leave gift of significance for survival, & proof of luxury (decent, untouched scotch, cigars, cured meat, etc)
>offer to combine resources (after year or so post-crisis)
>include rendezvous point for meet
>let it go smoothly
Then go from there. Your ultimate goal is that bunker, yes? That is going to take finesse, especially if they've more into theirs than you do into yours. I'm set for a comfy survival to a little better than two years; should be able to eek out an existence for a while thereafter, but I'm going to be looking for a better life much before that point. Those that are throwing $3M on their bunkers are probably going to be:
A) stocking it exceptionally well
B) taken many precautions with security
But yet,
C) not trained/prepared themselves for this scenario...especially long term on their own...because they've been paying people to get them there until "it" happened.

I'm the black sheep of a very wealthy family, & I have a cousin who's all of the sudden "a prepper" with all the costly gear that he wouldn't even begin to know what to do with. When he seals himself in his bunker, he'll live...for as long as provisions last for...but it will be in constant fear k depression. As intimidating as his set up is, he himself, the "king of the castle" is still a jiggling sack of jelly in the midst of a real threat. His friends & those like him will be the same in a given scenario. If you begin to trea5 them like they (were) used to being treated, they will gravitate to you, & at that point you can do what you will.

>>32813157
This. Bunkers are made to withstand a single concussive shockwave and potential fallout (chemical or nuclear)

A guy with a shovel, jackhammer and a tent can camp out on top, dig to the cement roof, and jackhammer his way in, given a week or 2.

If he has excavation equipment or a team of 10 diggers, it won't take long at all to breach.

>>32809922

Yeah, because the first thing you're going to want to do when society collapses is travel hundreds of miles on foot so you can die outside of someone's survival bunker.

Maybe stop being angry poor trash and learn to work for what you want, possibly for the first time in your life.

>>32815405
prepper detected

The irony of preppers is that no matter how much they prepare, they always get lazy and overconfident. The 12 guys who haven't eaten for 4 days are going to be much more cunning than the guy sitting alone in his house with a full belly and a few loaded AR mags

>>32815405
Look at the cost benefit analysis. 3 million for the bunker or like $10,000 in gear after the fact.

>>32815459
Pretty much every prepper forum has a newbie thread about raiding walmart or pillaging instead of preparing. A rational man quickly realizes how stupid that is. Those in the north east see walmart sells out of a lot of goods just in the word of a snowstorm coming. One could imagine a real disaster. Pillaging again doesn't mean you don't have to prep. If you want to pillage right it requires a great deal of equipment and man power. There is a reason why biker gangs are in a lot of shtf fan fiction.

>>32816589
I've never truly understood the sentiment. Either spend $1000 every 5 years and have 3-4 months of stocked food for an absolute certainty when SHTF, or risk life, limb, and freedom by raiding a place that probably is already cleaned out by the time you get there, which EVERY OTHER RETARD will be at. I'd wager 90% of those guys haven't even shot at anybody, much less murdered a dude in close combat.

Shit, I haven't either, and I'd like to very much fucking keep it that way. If SHTF I'm bugging in and chilling the fuck out.

This is some /x/ level roleplaying I've come across here on 2 mins of /k/.

>>32817168
Welcome to /k/, my man.

>>32812260
a thermal lance will cut through most anything

>>32809922
>The hinges are on the outside
welp.

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>>32817168
you haven't seen shit yet

>>32817570
What you don't realize is this is a fake door. The real one is 100 yards away and concealed, and has a great view for a sniper to snuff out the plebs that are trying to get into the fake bunker. Behind those doors is just dirt.

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>>32809922
I usually don't like to be the one to mention this, but this is a pretty edgy thread OP. A thread about say, how to breach these bunkers, wouldn't be. This is however a thread where you suggest making a map and getting the tools together so that if something goes wrong you can do the equivalent of breaking into people's home and murdering them to steal their shit.

>They probably think that one door can protect them....kek

>>32815365
What is 'shoot you from a distance while you're trying to break in' for 200 Alex.

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>>32815315

Dark.

>>32809922
>>32810700
>>32813110
Just weld the doors shut or pour concrete in front of them and let the fuckers inside starve to death. There's nothing they could do about it.

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There was a thread about this like a few days ago about the shitty looking security they had amd that it was built on an atlas missile site in kansas heres a screen shot if the bunker

>>32819321
This is the sight on Google Maps in case anyone wants to see.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4119518,-97.6803046,144m/data=!3m1!1e3

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>>32809922
For all of you that say OP will never be able to get into the bunker, I present pic related.

>>32819162
Really fucking brilliant. You starve out a bunker, build and stocked for maintaining its inhabitants as long as possible. While you wait it out in a nuclear wasteland on top of a concrete hill.

And what does this accomplish exactly?

>>32819430
Knowing that they will slowly die at the end is satisfying enough for me.

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>>32813110
>made to withstand a nuclear blast
a yo hol up

a nike missile site :::maybe::: would survive a glancing hit from a ruskie ICBM. Direct hit and it's a bad time bunker or no bunker

now being in a bunker like kennedy's on peanut island would keep you pretty safe from the effects of the city next to it getting nuked to oblivion. thats the cadillac of classic 60's nuke shelters built for american royalty. It's still concrete, steel doors, and ventilation with particulate filters spread around the island. pretty much steel tubes like you see in a lot of deep construction.

earth is one of the most effective ways to block out radiation. a fallout shelter isn't going to be designed like a bunker capable of shrugging off bunker busters with 200ft of penetration, let alone direct nuke strikes. A private version of cheyenne mountain would cost a hell of a lot more than 3 million and wouldn't bother with a poorfag missile site as it's base. that shit would be full custom.

>>32812368
>take over well placed bunker after thermal lancing off the blast door
>instead of sitting in it passively like a retard you build a shitload of earthworks with overlapping fields of fire with the bunker as it's keep/main base.
>use chibi cheyanne mountain graciously provided by some rich old world longpig as a fortress to control the immediate area and provide defense/sanctuary to your society/subjects/serfs/slaves against marauders, free companies, bandits, etc.

>>32816589
you're not getting it though. the "ghouls" didn't prep.

they don't have the recommended 2 weeks of shelf stable food in their apartment, or water filters, or storm lanterns, or generators, or any of the other shit any normal functional member of society that's ever been through a snow storm or hurricane has kicking around the house.

the DEFINITELY don't have 2-4 months of food or a potable water source on hand like a well stocked pantry should provide.

but they may have a hipoint or a taurus millenium to go with their empty belly and lack of scruples

Surviving the 90% die off isn't ensured just because you bought an extra bag of rice with every shopping trip. if you live anywhere near civilization a true "the road" tier impossible disaster where there is no restoration of services, federal and state relief efforts, or international response is going to run into the problem of a shitload of starving people fanning out from the cities like locusts.

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>richfag spends 3M$.
>Apocalypse Now.
>US/Chink Nuke War.
>Chinks never updated targeting data.
>silo gets hit by nuke.
>yfw

>>32819796
I'm not sure about this. How do you fan out from a city with limited food and gas? Most people in the city have like no extra food.

>>32820885
Lots of people anon.....

>>32820885
long pig

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>>32819490
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>>32820883
well, weren't silos designed to resist direct nuclear blast?

>>32818991
something that's awfully hard to do from a bunker with one entrance

>>32812374
>Tiny hole
>Shrapnel effect is measured in meters.

>>32823554

no

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>>32819490

How are locusts supposed to stay in the field without fuel, food or water during their depredations?

Mob deep with others from your area and murder them. Problem solved. Firepower and mobility will get that done nicely and if necessary you can cannibalize some of your attackers or feed them to your livestock. Pigs will eat anything and so will chickens. It could be worth murdering enemies to keep your farm going. Total social breakdown removes the need for conventional morality so whoever your group wants to kill may be killed.

Piss on bunkerfaggotry childish play fort autismal nonsense. You'll need a militia just like the rest of the world when the shit hits the fan.

>>32823737
Frog cartoons won't help you either, because Pepe is feeble faggotry almost as retarded as gondola.

Bananas will survive and rule because a banana is positive, and so are banana magazines. Note the absence of any firearm components or accessories named after that stupid green turd, "Pepe". Bananas have strength, Pepe has the feels of weakness. Bananas have graceful natural beauty. Pepe is fugly, cuckish, wrinkled, and un/fit/.

Banana color is closest to God Emperor Trump. Green is the color of the Communist Green Party, who want to confiscate funs.

>>32815365
But then the bunker is useless considering there's a giant hole in it

>>32819609
Share the cost with other people to have one built into a mountain?
Like an underground village.

How about a map of all the existing decommissioned misslie silos and com bunkers! So /k/ can go underground and survive the Pock-o-lapse!

I'll start. Ravenna arsenal in Ohio has dozens of munitions bunkers that are more than likely empty.

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>>32823944
>as retarded as gondola.
gondola is pure. do not insult gondola

>>32824141
I'd rather die than live in Ohio

>>32812365

>have a doomsday bunker
>make the inside look like a fucking office
>everybody committed suicide after an year's

>>32814948
OP I think you are missing two key things.
1. If the bunker is worth breaking into, the designers have planned for break in attempts. That means things are most likely more complex when it comes to active security.
2. Considering the fact that you are posting here, there is a fair chance there are more armed men inside the bunker than you have breaking in with you. There is not always only one entrance, so don't think you'll be able to invest the bunker, before they can counter your activities. Also chances are the are better rested and fed, if not better trained and armed. Altogether more likely to get you killed than anything else.

>>32820885
> how do people move from a city without use of a car

Probably using those dangly appendages that hang off the bottom half of you called "legs" you clod

>>32823554
nothing is

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If its a crossed style infection end of the world scenario im just gonna get myself infected soon as possible and become a fun loving rape zombie

>>32809922
You know, if you "break into" a bunker forcibly, it kind of makes it useless as a bunker for future usage, and if you have the infrastructure required to both defeat and restore bunkers to full working order, you might as well just build your own in the first place.

>>32817047
where's the fun in that?

>>32824313
Now picture the average American marching more than fifty miles without dying. People who haven't marched with a load will self-destruct from exhaustion. They will already be malnourished if they are motivated to walk their way out. They won't be well armed because cities. They'll be easy prey.

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>>32825589
Youre thinking in terms of 24 hours.

Im thinking in the first week of the happening.

50 miles isnt a huge distance to cover for the average flabmeister in 2-3 days. Hell, covering 20 miles a day isnt exactly a push.

Lets remember here that generally speaking, those in good physical form are more likely to be sensible people who have a plan and a route.

Great big fat fucks will generally mill about and stumble around aimlessly looking for sustenance and generally spreading around the place until they die (hopefully)

Tl; dr the strong and fit will inherit the earth

>>32823554

Not really, they can sort of withstand the shockwave from a nearby blast but a direct hit will easily destroy it. They were meant to be just resilient enough to get the missile off for a counterattack before they were destroyed.

It is a mistake to assume that I want to get in more than they want to eventually get out. Park soil, rocks, heavy equipment on the door, come back in a year.

>>32824124
>implying there aren't multiple scam projects like that
>buy into our doomsday timeshare for the low low price of several million to reserve your 6'x8' luxury one bedroom in a repurposed missile base in the middle of fucking nowhere!
>you'll definitely get here in time to avoid the apocalypse while the apocalypse happens and we're totally going to actually build it when we reach full capacity.

>>32824207
Your already dead inside Michigan.

How hard would it be to build a bunker? Not a full on norad bunker but just enough to escape fallout and stay out of sight for a few months?

>>32821121
Thanks to Rimworld I think I'm 100% psychologically prepared to survive a winter on nothing but that and have 0 scruples about it come spring.

If you're going to stockpile the supplies to blast your way into a bunker, why not just prep yourself

>>32825723
I dunno anon. I saw a documentary where some big lardo got lost in the Australian outback and lived for 3 months with hardly anything to eat because... his fatness. Most of these obese people could probably survive a winter with 1000 calories a day if they didn't die and come out fit and strong. But yes either way time for America to not be fat anymore.

>>32809922
>***
>***
>OBJECTIVE: Capture the bunker with remaining supplies mostly intact, and ensure it can be repaired to working order afterward.
>The purpose of this will be for your group of individuals to properly conceal, fortify, and make the most of the bunker afterward.

What's the best course of action?
We know a cannon in a can (EFP) will probably penetrate those doors, but it's still only a small hole. Poisonous or otherwise noxious gas or smoke can be introduced into the structure via the small holes.

>>32817320
It also takes longer than moving an EFP into position and touching it off.

>>32827802
How so? Unless your in the very southern part of MI its mostly forest and small lakes. Especially in the U.P

>>32817570
For a bunker designed to resist bomb blasts, you want a door that opens out, so that a blast will push the door back against the structure, spreading out the force over the whole frame. If the door opens inward, the all the force of the blast will be borne by the lock, and it will fail much more easily.

Cold War era bunkers weren't built to resist a siege by infantry. If the Soviet army is there in Kansas banging on the door, we've already lost the war.

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>>32809922
When this man bust down your bunker doors, wat do?

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>>32829551
Oh the land is great! It's all those Michigan natives that make the state unbearable!

Except Detroit. That place just needs to blasted flat and set on fire.

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>>32827825
Not that hard.

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>>32830187
I've always wanted to build a steel version of this in the hill behind my house

I think the best strategy would be to locate a shelter,earn as much as you can about its owners, and situate your lifestyle that on average you live and work closer to it than its intended users. When It Happens, you and your trusted band set up an ambush at the site and either negotiate for admission or sieze the premises through other means, this way you don't have to defeat the shelter in order to enjoy its advantages

>>32824207
>implying being a wolverine is somehow good

>>32810631
You build a new bunker door made of compressed faeces coated in varnish

You don't have to make it impossible to get in, you just have to make it more sensible for them not to.

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>hidden motion sensors from several different places around the bunker site
>bunker build so I can shoot from different places at different possible entry point all over the site
>cameras recording everything that happens
>tunnel system everywhere
>alarm is getting triggered whenever someone comes near the place
>trained to fully man my station in less than 40 seconds
>whole place is surrounded by woods
>woods are boobytrapped with punji sticks, tons of punji sticks and traps and holes
>self made glass mines triggered by pressure
>radio controlled IEDs along the road
>FLIR and nightvision everywhere
>can launch chemical self made gas grenades that produce smoke and sarine like stuff

>>32830166
fuck you buddy

>>32824325
what the fuck is this?

This guy bought a Titan II missile silo.

he made a channel showing him restoring the silo.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd50A5qLv8FemVufSvDgkCQ/videos

>>32831072
https://youtu.be/06DmnGiPIj0?t=9m27s

>>32831019
Crossed. It's like zombies, but an edgy teen version

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>>32829649
I spat out my beer when I saw that guy and the body armor.