would you kill a surrendering enemy?

yes, if they were brown. not whites

>>32804125

If they're Muslim, for sure.

>>32804136
this

>>32804125
Depends? Who am I fighting? Did I just finish a firefight with them or are they actively looking for opposing forces to surrender to? Is this enemy known for suicidal last ditch attempts to kill their foes?

>>32804147
>Is this enemy known for suicidal last ditch attempts to kill their foes?
should be the only reason. if you surrendered would you want someone to summarily execute you? golden rule boys

inb4 durr never surrender

Prisoners are more valuable than corpses. Makes their buddies more likely to surrender when they are under fire next. Also sources of intel, and forced labor if necessary - like when enemy mines need to be found and removed.

>>32804147
>>32804153
>>32804142
>>32804140
>>32804136
executing POWs is a war crime

>>32804211
"War crime" is an oxymoron.

>>32804218
No, you retard. They are conventions agree upon on both sides and the will to uphold them is far, far greater than the value of your life. Ie. you're going to get executed for breaking them.

>>32804236
Yeah, people are so often prosecuted for war crimes when their side wins, right? :^)

>>32804218
your buddies could report you. enjoy court martial

>>32804147
>>32804159
Shoot them in the dick first, they can't rebel without their dignity

>>32804211

During the attack on Afghanistan, many prisoners were taken by the US. The prisoners were handed over to the locals, who stuffed them into container and locked the doors then left them. By the time the returned to the containers, the number of prisoners had been reduced to a much more manageable number. And we wonder why the taliban are popular still. We are the good ones, aren't we?

>>32804242
Only if you're caught on camera.

>>32804136
fpbp, I agree 100%

>>32804125

Depends on whether or not I have the luxury of taking prisoners. If there is no logistical framework for taking prisoners without significant drop in operational tempo, then I would have to just execute them.

Waste of resources. Ship them back home and auction them off as personal organ/blood banks.

Lotta people with money that need kidneys stateside.

>>32804249
That's not what happens though, not actual squad mates will eat on each other.

A squad leader in my platoon killed some unarmed people. Then he tossed an AK next to them. There was an Intel guy attached that ratted him out though.

just nazis

>>32804125
>would you kill a surrendering enemy?

That depends upon the context! Giving a universal answer is childish.

Context is everything. No two conflicts are the same, and every stakeholder has to deal with a different set of circumstances.

>>32804275
Fuggin pogs amirite?

>>32804236
Remind me...when did the taliban and daesh agree to these POW conventions?

>>32804257
Testimony from other service members is enough, it does happen.

>>32804275
Unlawful combatants don't have POW rights. Nobody cares.

>>32804301
Point out to me where I ever suggested or claimed anything of the sort? Un-uniformed combatants are not considered POWs when captured.

>>32804125
source for image?

>>32804319
POWs Don't have POW rights if you don't take them prisoner.

There is another factor as well, of course. While you focus on the guys trying to surrender, one of their buddies or a third party is filming it all. It'll be on youtube within two minutes, and on Al Jazeera within ten. Even if you manage to avoid fame the top brass will not be happy.

It's illogical to think that prisoners are taken easily. In the heat of a firefight, how reliably would a man that is in kill mode, react to the guy in front of him surrendering, moments after killing his friend?

>>32804136

This is the only correct answer.

>>32804329
Shooting them is forbidden by the Hague convention.

>>32804253
>And we wonder why the taliban are popular still. We are the good ones, aren't we?

That's pretty naive. Afghans have been bumping each other off to consolidate power longer than the US existed. The locals know how to deal with locals. You don't except where YOU are a local.

The Taliban compete with equally ruthless groups for power so a few hundred or thousand murders by any of the many sides is irrelevant. What is relevant is the ability of the different Afghan militias to impose control. Never think like a Westerner when you are in the East.

Morality is for children. It varies by location. In some areas failure to kill your enemies means you'll fight them until you do or they win.

Good and evil are almost random imaginary constructs that anyone can make up out of thin air. See also, religion.

Rules of war should serve war. Everything in war should serve war. When at war, moral obligations do not exist to the enemy, but the enemy can be dealt with logically.

For example the US treatment of WWII POWs held in CONUS was so good that some stayed on after the war and became citizens. We made it safe to surrender, by and large. The postwar situation was different, and resources have to be allocated to one's own people and troops before captured enemies who live at the whim of the conqueror. The right of conquest is the right of might which trumps all others.

OTOH the Muslim is the enemy of all secularity and cannot be converted or dealt with in any way to make him suitable for shared civilization. All superstitionists a shit but the Muslim cannot reform and his mates will kill him if he tries. Apostates get no slack. In that case, the way to fight is use weapons and proxies to avoid taking more than the minimum prisoners. A breathing Muslim lives to kill his enemies. Hitler didn't admire Islam by mistake! However he still held the simple Eurotard view of Islam because he like the mass of Euros knew nothing about Islam in practice.

>>32804377
War crimes are not about morals, even though some seem to think so. They are simply things agreed upon by different parties, so that they themselves would not be subject to the things banned in them, should they ever lose a war. It's all self-serving.

>>32804293

Honestly the first post made a more compelling argument.

>>32804211
So is to "deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.", yet here we are.

>>32804366

You can get around that though if you claim they're a terrorist or if you join an American police department.

>>32804211
>executing POWs is a war crime

That makes it a technical foul, not a moral problem. Don't execute them, but do kill them before they can surrender. For example artillery and mortars don't take prisoners. I suggest being familiar enough with weapons to make deniable strikes on an enemy before going through the corpses for intel.

Infantry are most likely to take prisoners and when shit goes bad lower ranks get busted. Obey the ROE but if you can call in extra arty or CAS to make sure there's no enemy left, you are clear. Learn to lie and never confess anything to anyone because even if they are your bro, that knowledge can burden them.

In a civil war there should be no enemy survivors if you want to win the peace. If you leave any they will eventually return to power. The way to win a civil war is fight like Mao or Lenin. They won unequivocally and their results strenghtened their nations. Unifying China would have been worth a hundred million dead, because now China is free of foreign domination. Communism is a shitty system, but the way the Russian civil war was fought got the job done. Liquidating your enemies when they are truly at your mercy in civil way is effective. So was starvation and gulag and using Tsarists for target practice. War isn't pretty and men who admire chivalry will lose to those with a more practical frame of mind.

>>32804236
>They are conventions agree upon on both sides

In what war? You must be very young or very ignorant, but I repeat myself. Not every combatant group signed the Hague or Geneva conventions, but apparently you think they did.

Look ma, I washed for supper!

>>32804439
All relevant countries have signed at least some of them. Nobody cares about terrorists, who as un-uniformed combatants aren't subject to them in the first place and some African shitholes and Pooinloos, as well as their neighbours.

>>32804249
>your buddies could report you. enjoy court martial

You must be thinking of effeminate modern nation-state war. In that case they might, but not all wars are as you imagine. In many wars there are no lawgivers. You might even decide to work for democide even knowing you could be prosecuted. For example Eichmann got the job done and killing him made no difference because it didn't unkill the Bolsheviks he helped liquidate.

If you are willing to accept the risk you need obey no laws. Jihadist kamikaze bombers are quite courageous and practical. They trade one life for many enemy lives and accept dying rather than follow Western hope rituals of only operating when there's some chance of escape. (That costs MORE lives per action but it suits Western ritual preference.)

>>32804394
The West no longer fights people who are chivalrous so the quid pro quo is gone forever.

>>32804459
>All relevant countries have signed at least some of them.
>countries

You just omitted every non-nation state actor, so no, not only "countries" are relevant.

What "country" are IS, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, or any other transnational fighting force? If IS get their Caliphate it will not have signed Geneva or Hague.

>>32804125
Absolutely not, I have far too much empathy to do that. Once we start running out of food it's another story, but not immediately when they're surrendering.

>>32804211
who gives a shit, they deserve to be shot for their cowardice

>>32804136


I'd kill them especially if theyre white.

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>>32804136
Exactly, I would feel bad if I killed a human.

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>>32804377
>Morality is for children

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>>32804366
>Shooting them is forbidden by the Hague convention

This is why we'll never win a war against hajis and islamist, we move a mountain to be humane and careful but they'll chop us up and video tape it for fun.

The only way to win a war against hajis noawadys is to not go to war with them

I'd only kill Germans, Russians and other non-whites.

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>>32804735
>The only way to win a war against hajis noawadys is to not go to war with them

Maybe it's because Americans aren't willing to get their legs blown off or their sons brought home in a box in order to """""save""""" the Middle East any more?

>>32804780
I wish we were never willing to fight in those """wars"""

Its too late now and we've found out what a moral conundrum fighting in the Middle East is.

Also

>all dat German
>all dat Mexican

Wew lad, we pight to just hand over southern California already, they'd probably like it anyways

>>32804671
Edgy

>>32804780
>Only Irish county in California
woo

>>32804211

It's only a crime if your enemy is civilized.

Muslims are subhuman vermin who don't even abide by any international laws because they think Allah's laws supersede everything else, therefore they are not protected by any human rights.

Killing a Muslim is ethically as bad as shooting squirrel.

>>32804211

war crimes are for the side that loses the war.

>>32804780
ahahahaha

what a bullshit map

>>32804883
Squirrels at least play a role in the food chain and are pretty tasty.

Mudslides how ever...I'd more so associate shooting them with shooting piles of dog shit or everybody loves Raymond vhs tapes.

>>32804986
Shooting piles of shit doesn't make the world a better place.

>>32804125
I would shoot OP because he's a faggot and this thread belongs on /pol/. Oh wait, it is also on /pol/.

>>32804986
muslims stand their ground against rabid western imperialists, they deserve respect at least for that

unlike so many other cultures the white killer has exterminated

>>32804136
This desu senpai.

I only accept the surrender of human beings.

>>32804546
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU ABU HAJAAR

>>32804671
That's the kind of logic that got a country nuked, twice.

>>32804136
Are you stupid? You beat the shit out of him, get all of the info, then you shoot the dumb nigger.

>>32804459
So by your own logic it only applies to other anglo countries during ww2. So we're talking about something you yourself haven't agreed with for the last 70 years.

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>>32804125
great another neckbeard power fantasy thread

>total war conscripts (i.e. Germans during WW2)
No
>asymmetrical war/ideological conscripts (Japs during WW2, Mudslimes)
Fuck yes

No, why the fuck would I?

Only scenario I could see myself doing it in is if they've made a habit of faking it.

Whoever spites you enough to shoot at you in the first place while also being opportunistic enough to lay down his arms when he's losing will surely be opportunistic enough to take his arms back up again when you're losing.

In other words, enemies who are not part of a real military (Likely to shoot at you because it is their actual job and actually likely to have signed Geneva and/or Hague convention) should be taken prisoner, but guerilla forces and mercenaries should get shot on sight.

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>This entire fucking thread

>>32804192
prisoners are also more expensive then corpses.

yes - especially if they are from the united states armed forces

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKOkjbQAsZA&t=30m15s

listen and repeat

also watch 37m30s

>>32804211
What if you just don't take them prisoner?

>>32804136
I came here to say this

>>32804136
Absolutely this. I would gladly kill non whites

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>>32804780
>Kentucky is the most American state in the Union
>>FeelsinAmerican.jpeg

>>32805219

We got an ISIS sleeper.

If you love their societies so much, why are you still here?

Go blow yourself up for ISIS for some strategic objective, like a bus stop in Ramadi or something. Virgins await (male ones).

>>32804136

seeing this post with that many like minded folk make me very glad i am a snow white skined german rooted american.
jesus christ

>>32804125
no, it would be a war crime

>>32804125
No

>>32804136
this

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>>32804125
I would kill them if they are American.

Because I only get to kill Americans when they were invading my country. And Americans are ALWAYS the invaders and aggressors.

And since America doesnt have conscription, but is an all volunteer army, the American soldier is a pathological murderer and criminal who has joined his armed forces fully knowing that he will be sent out to kill and invade and rape other nations.

I would really not only kill the Americans by shooting them. I would first take them prisoner, then strip them off their uniforms and weapons, and then tie them on crosses or trees and flay them alive, burn out their eyes and cut off their tongues.
Then, I will collect their skins and drape them on banners and flags, that will be carried by my soldiers and comrades who will fight on against the American imperialist scums and someday bring the fight to them, on their soil, in their homes, with their blood.

Then, when we destroy the Americans in their own country, we will pull off the skins of every single American, since noone is innocent for the decades and centuries of wanton invasions and aggressions in a "proud democracy" as the US is. Everyone who has ever voted for a war either actively or passively by giving his vote to an american politician should be flayed and his corpse dumped into a stinking hole that will be covered in bleach.

>>32806423
butthurt

>>32804125
>asking this on a origami board where the only killing is of party size bags of doritos

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>>32806423

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>>32806423
W E W L A D
E
W
L
A
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>>32804125
what is your pic from?

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>>32806423
10/10

Yeah, probably. I'm not babysitting dudes who just tried to kill me.

>>32806423
I like how you're probably an American that was at one of those anti-trump rallies.

>>32804125
depends on the enemy

>>32804125
Only as a last resort.
Morality is a privilege for those who have supplies, safety etc. Yet, not killing the poor bastards that were only doing the same thing as you, is worth an extra effort.
Only if you're out of any options, than it's your duty to first ensure the safety of yourself and your people- even at the price of executing POWs. War is hell n' shit.

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>>32806423
>thinking your monkey tier country could take on a nation like the US or Russia who thrive on war
Have fun, kid.

>>32804735
We beat the Japs and they didn't surrender in combat, nor did they follow the wartime conventions considered sane for that time.

We still kill shitloads of them as often as possible.

>>32804125
I accidentally "killed" two surrendering enemies in a Field Training Exercise

Didnt mean to though

>>32804125
Depends.

If my unit doesn't have the logistics to handle them sure.

Otherwise what's the point. It will only make it harder for any of the people on my side who get captured by the enemy.

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>>32806423

theres an assault rifle behind every blade of grass here

good luck trying to invade with the moon rune dune coon looney tune platoon, fucko

>>32804125
Only if they are chanting "Whose streets!? Our streets!"

>>32804136
Seconded

>>32804125
depends how many of my brothers they killed prior to surrendering
also, if NCO was cool with it

>>32804546
abu hajaar was a hero

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>>32804136
>>32804140
>>32804147
>>32804153
>>32804218
Expect the same treatment if whites lose.

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you do not know until you are in the situation

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Well generally people cannot even kill when the enemy is shooting at them. leading me to believe that surrendering enemies would be a relief

>>32804125
Depends. Conventional war, and you're a normal force? No. If you're some small unit or special forces that can't maintain prisoners, or if you're fighting an insurgency or group of some sort, yes.

>>32807722

>if white loses

PFFFFFFB

>>32804125
No, they could be useful later.

>>32807848
>when whites lose
ftfy

>>32807859
>T. pedro choking back tears as his sister gets bleached by the GWC in the other room

>>32804136
>>32804140
>>32804153
>>32804546
>>32804986
Not so friendly reminder that RACISM IS BANNED on all boards besides /b/ and mods ARE giving out bans for racism as it is an express violation of GLOBAL RULE #3!

Please keep this in mind before you post your petulant, bigoted crap on boards besides /b/, gentlemen.

>>32808213
>wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg

>>32804125

Generally no but I can imagine a scenario where I might. Maybe that scenario would be very unlikely but someone who just committed some kind of atrocity might just get a bullet instead of a couple of zip ties.

It's situational but generally no.

>>32804125
No, if I didn't have the means to imprison or enslave them I would just resort to the good old fashioned method of cutting off their thumbs, taking their weapons, give them 5 lashes, and send them home ashamed of their cowardice.

>>32808213

Is it racism? I mean you could argue that the people who posted it are "racist" but they're answering a question which is "would you kill a surrendering enemy?" and they're citing a condition under which they would consider doing so.

It's not racist to answer the question. Like Jules said "If my answers frighten you then perhaps you should cease asking scary questions."

>>32804528
Hezbollah doesn't target western soil in the first place, and IS as well as al Qaeda were born thanks to American, Saudi, and Israeli interests.

>>32808080
The russian zerg rushed for a reason Anon.
>Implying we wouldn't get fucked

>>32808213
Bait? If not go back to rëddit faggot

>>32805859
But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I've been found out.”

Stay mad JIDF

>>32805785
It doesn't work like that

>>32808245
/k/ not /pol/, JIDF>>32808509

>>32804125
Take no prisoners

>>32804429
This, executing POWs is still a war crime (when you loose)

>>32808213
Shut the fuck up you dumb bastard

>>32804235
>Killing white people, even traitors, would be harder. I would still kill every leftist though.

???

Anon
1st stop being edgy
2nd a leftist is a traitor IF he is one of the 'new' leftist
3rd stop being a little bitch traitors before enemies bitch cunt nigger

>>32804362
Most prisoners aren't taken like this but nice texas sharpshooting

>>32808554
You are on 4chan, just go back your hugbox
>>>/reddit/

>>32808080
>GWC
>We aren't like the niggers I swear

>>32808614
You are on 4chan, just go back to your hugbox
>>>>/reddit/

Oh right you're assigned here

>>32808290
I believe that anon was referencing the use of terms like sand nigger not the debate of killing surrendering enemies.

ITT larper tryign to act not like niggers but actually being more niggerish than a jew fucking a SS officer

>>32808625
Its sad that this board is infested with sjws

>>32804125
No, if I kill him he wins (now for real)

>>32808655
First reddit now sjws

When will the jews learn?

sry for interfering in your safespace

>>32808674
Go cry about it in /qa/ nigger

>>32808694
Now a nigger?

When will the JIDF end?

sry for interfering in your safespace

>>32808694
sorry for interfering in your safespace, trasgender helicopter homan

>>32805875
Sounds like that you feel so fucking insecure anon, they will not get me through a screen

>>32804125
Depends on the enemy. In a classic war with defined sides, its likely that they don't want to be there any more than I would. Just some poor bastards doing what their government told them to do, both sides believing they are the heroes. No need to kill them unless they just took out a bunch of your buddies.

>>32804125
depends on the prevailing trend of the war at the time

>>32804125
Depends on who the enemy is and what they've done to us personally I suppose.

>>32808761
Do you think that you niggers will be safe?

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Just pull an Eisenhower.
Its an abstract kind of genocide.

>>32808808
Yes i think, people on one thread can't just convince the entire white race and be against other race

>>32808821
You niggers are so fucking dumb, deluding dumb monkey

>>32804125
Always kill. My nugget can never have too many notches.

>>32808818
>Just pull an Eisenhower.
can you clarify what this is?

>>32804211
Rules of warfare have to be obeyed mutually to be enjoyed mutually.
Arabs don't get to enjoy the benefits of the rules of warfare for a reason.

>>32804125
Nah, that's for a court to decide. Or MPs in southeast Cuba.

>>32804136

what about asian or hispanic? asking for a...friend

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>>32804125

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>>32809652
Are you a Filipino?

That's an Asian Spic right?

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>>32808213

I like this pasta. Elicited a kek.

>>32804125
If its a Non White, yes. Almost a guarantee that they are going to try and kill you with some type of explosive.

>>32804125

Id make em turn around.
Then they'd get a Grenade

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>>32806604
>We still kill shitloads of them as often as possible.

And we got pretty good at it

>>32806604

This.

We fucking waged a war of extermination with the Japs. Treated them like rodents. And they were far more capable then ISIS.

So the next faggot that claims "HURR BEING BAD TO MUSLIMS WILL RECRUIT MORE ISIS" is going to get slapped across the bitch face.

>>32804125
If they weren't a high value prisoner, yes.

>>32810075
America back then was 90% White.

America today is 54% White.

America in the future is <30% ''''White''''''.

>>32804211
>executing POWs is a war crime
Are none of you dumbasses up on your Geneva?
If you accept a surrender, you have a POW.
You DO NOT have to accept surrender.
Do you have anywhere to keep them? Do you have the personnel? Did they use their last cartridge to off your buddy? Noone is checking, it is not enforceable, you can continue combat until they are dead.

>>32804366
Wrong, you are.

>>32804562
POWs are supposed to be fed the same as your own people, so you had better all run out at the same time or you are in violation. They are your responsibility once you accept surrender.

>>32810075
I always defer to our experiences in the Pacific whenever I get that argument.

>>32810131
With recent news it looks like that may take a different direction but really, we've had beans and injuns fighting with white marines in the Pacific.

They didn't have to be there but they volunteered to fight anyways, their actions pleases the /k/ube

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>>32807159
>good luck trying to invade with the moon rune dune coon looney tune platoon, fucko
jesus fucking christ that's good.

>>32808544
Actually, it does.

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>>32806423
Molon labe, faggot.

>>32804136
adding my agreement to this (You) chain tbqh

In the current wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? If I was fighting an enemy like ISIS? Yeah, I doubt very much I would take prisoners. Shit, when I was in the Army I was trained to shoot anybody on the ground as we advanced to both ensure they won't shoot us in the back and because EPWs are a pain in the ass.

In a conventional war against a uniformed and civilized enemy who also observed the Geneva convention? Yeah, in the vast majority of circumstances I would take them prisoner gladly.

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>>32804125
>All these edgy kids

You idiots know what happened to the last guy who did it right ?

>>32811095
You mean the last one to get caught doing it

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No, when someome surrenders he's out of it, as long as he isn't a threat then there is no need to kill him and make war worse than it already is

>>32804125
No. I ain't gonna be Court Marshall and suffer permanent PTSD x 10 because of some poor fuck from buttfuckistan, When they surrender, they are the MP problems not me, my job is to fight when the fight stop i stop no need for further bloodshed, want to get out of the the war with my sanity at least some what intact thanks you very much

>>32804136
/thread

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>>32804136
I see this answer every time this thread is posted and I've come to the realisation that this isn't a joke.

I honestly cannot think of a non-white country that would treat their prisoners well. I'm a fan of reciprocity, so if people would torture/execute me if I surrendered, guess what happens to them if I have anything to say about it. And who would do that? Brown people.

Can anyone name a country that isn't European or North American that would treat their prisoners humanely? Because I legitimately can't think of a single one and I would be open to the knowledge of one existing.

>>32811312
from their perspective where the fuck are they supposed to put all these prisoners and how do they feed them? most countries dont have the logistics.

>>32811336
That's the case for some I admit and those countries are more likely to humanely execute, but some I recall reading about their notorious cruelty and how they seemed to take joy out of and make sport of torturing their prisoners. Several middle eastern and Asian countries, south American countries as well. Perhaps some of them not in modern times, but some of the cases ive read about were during the last century and even fairly recently with others.

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>>32807159
Screencapped

>>32811312
I know for a fact my parents old country wouldn't

My uncles were in anti commie desth squads but to be fair, they were trained by the US

>>32811407
And what country is that? Seriously I am curious.

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>>32811437
El Salvador

One of my uncles did his time completely and the other got out after a year, my dad was a teenager during the war but he ran messages for the Army to BTFO commies.

My family really doesnt like commies

>>32811454
Nice.

>>32804125
Is he black/shitskin?

>>32804735
If you kill your enemies, they win.

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>>32805838
>Wisconsin is the most German state in the union
>Desire to Anschluss increases

>>32804443
Perfect reference

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Only if they were a cute girl.
Nothin like some after battle necrophilia.

>>32808627
>referencing the use of terms like sand nigger
It's a catch-all, to be sure, and not as specific as noting a nationality or creed, but it certainly expedites conversations.

>>32809909
That's nice of you to give them a prize for being so compliant.

>>32804125
Non shit post answer: it really depends.

Very likely no because it only means that when the other side finds out next time someone on our side surrenders they will be murdered.

But it's very situationally dependent.

What is the nature of the conflict?

Conventional
Unconventional
1 Am I on the state side or non state side?
2 Have people on my side already been gunned down when attempting to surrender?
Enemy
1. Is this specific unit notorious for killing prisoners?
2. Are they volunteers or conscripts?

>>32804125
Depends on how many of my friends they just killed.

>>32804125
I'd shoot some
Only the kind that blows up get shot. That said if there's no way to guard them, they might as well blow up, so....

>>32811095
What the fuck is wrong with him? He looks completely messed up inside.

>>32807722
>implying that hasn't been the case literally for the entire existence of mankind.

Even the fucking asians as often as not.

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>>32804125
In the case that they will be sand people... definitely yes

>>32804125
Killing people's easy. Living with it afterwards is hard.

>>32804136
good to see that i'm not the only one

>>32806423
Calm down Habib

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>>32804211
They were never a military combatant anon.

>>32804218
"War crime" is redundant

>>32812690
I assume these guys are going to be the new classes in the next Battlefield?

>>32811454
>those boots

Having trouble identifying that rifle. Quality photo.

>>32813201
What, you some kind of hippie or something?

>>32813201

>ok boys, we're going into that village and making it ours, don't forget your tactical rape kits!

I would absolutely shoot surrendering enemies if I knew they did some heinous shit.

>>32805875
You sound more black then me your just in denial.

>>32804211
Fuck off leftist cuck

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>>32804125
Human rights and war laws only apply to humans ..... :^)

>>32810752
>You DO NOT have to accept surrender.
I thought it works like this

>be enemy combatant, lets say his name is Karl
>Karl is armed and holding a position from your forces
>currently Karl is a lawful combatant, he is in his country's uniform and fighting his uniformed enemies on the other side of the battle field
>karl puts down his rifle and puts his hands in the sky indicated that he surrenders
>at this point Karl becomes a noncombatant because he is not actively taking arms against the enemy and has indicated his surrender

shooting him at this point is a war crime since you are shooting a noncombatant

>>32804125
And the children, so they can't grow up to hate you.

>>32808213
Fuck off Nigger

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>>32808213

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Taqiyya is real. If you trust a surrendering Muslim, you deserve what happens.

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>>32804125
>>32804136

This. If they are Muslims, absolutely. If they are humans, or even Jews, probably not.

>>32808533

>If you hate Muslims, even ISIS, it means you're a Jew

Cool, where do I go to convert?

>>32804136

This. The primary reason to accept surrender is so that your enemy will afford you the same courtesy. The sand people have toddlers executing their prisoners, and I don't even want to think about what would happen to you if you had to surrender to the Chinese or Koreans (lol) or something during a war.

At least with most white countries you can somewhat reasonably expect to not be experimented on, shot in a ditch or starved to death.

>>32808213
If this guy was surrendering, I'd shoot him.

>>32811312
Holy shit her grip is garbage. Someone teach that lady how to hold a handgun please.

>>32805494
yup

Why is /k/ as edgy if not edgier than /pol/?

Most common response here is "i will kill them if they are not white"

Clearly racism. What went wrong in raising you guys?

>>32814671

I wouldn't kill them for being non-white but I would kill any Muslim, man, woman, or child, armed or unarmed.

>>32805838
I assume that means American abbos, since American ancestry isn't really a thing

Is there a reason countries are expected to follow the Geneva convention when fighting an irregular guerilla force?

Country vs Country sure, rules should be upheld. but against an irregular force who uses civilians as shields and disguise they shouldn't be treated with the privilege of a country. If you want the rules to apply, you got to follow them too.

However I can see how this would be problematic since any stronger country could annex a weaker country with a shit military, and the people (in the off chance they resist) would than be subject to possible war crimes and genocide.

There's definitely a line in there

>>32804125
The only good commie is a dead one.

>>32814671

>It's racist to use your brain

Alright. When the force that has been actively suicide bombing and publicly executing our guys decides to "surrender", you can be the one that walks up and detains them.

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>>32812690
When did Ross fight with them? Does Rachel know about this?

>>32814719
>Ross (((Geller)))

Of course. It has always be them.

>>32814685
that post implies you would commit mass murder

it's people like you that allowed the my lei massacre to happen. as well as any other massacre from times of war

>be south korean
>hurr durr these civilians be northern sympathizers
>kills 100s with little reason and oversight

>be german
>hurr these civilians are partisans/jews/bolsheviks
>fills up mass grave

be aware that you are saying you have no reluctance to commit a war crime.

>>32814717
>>It's racist to use your brain
you are just poorly justifying your hairbrained views. are you aware that there are over a billion muslims with many having different views on just about everything? it's similar to christianity. Some christains fervently believe that gays should be summarily killed.

same with muslims. i have a bunch of friends who happen to be muslim who detest extremism. many of them were actually born in the middle east.

>When the force that has been actively suicide bombing and publicly executing our guys decides to "surrender", you can be the one that walks up and detains them.

the man surrendering isn't the one who commited a suicide bombimg. you have no idea what views he holds or if he was forced to fight against his will

if you were in his position and found an oppurtunity to surrender, thinking you can get out of the nightmare that is forced conscription to fight the USA, would you want to get shot?

>>32814759

No, only Muslims. Every dead Muslim makes the world a better place.

>>32814759

That's great. Like I said you can be the one to risk your neck when they decide to surrender.

>>32804125
no.
if I kill a POW what will be the difference between me and them?
>the caliber you are using

>>32814793
hasn't a protocol been invented to safely take prisoners?

>tell them to keep their hands up at a safe distance (at least 30 ft i'd imagine)
>drop any weapons in their hands, keep palms open
>apprehend and secure hands

>>32814792
a mass murder of muslims is still a mass murder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bales

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>>32814754
Apparently here's another pic of him subjugating her into white slavery.....so Ross is the original ISIS?

I won't kill my brothers in arm

>>32804671
unless you have born in the 20's you should not say that kind of things.

lots of Subhuman /pol/ edge lords here that think it's totally fine to wallow in shit just because your enemy does. If a 7 year old punched you in a temper tantrum, would you punch him as hard as you could in the face? These terror groups are weak and worthless, completely unable to significantly affect western nations beyond annoyance. Don't let them get away with it, but greater power requires more judgment about when it's use is appropriate. Yeah, you can punch a 7 year old in the face, but none of your friends will respect you again and your wife will probably go fuck some guy that isn't a pussy.

>>32814875
I punched my wife's 7 year old niece for biting me in the leg. Everyone laughed. Does that make me a bad person? Little shit never bit anyone again.

>>32814875

Canadian detected. Shouldn't you be off making maple syrup and poutine for the Americans?

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>>32808213

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>>32814875
fucking hippies, get out of /k/

>>32805680
War itself is pretty fucking edgy,anon. The most edgy pastime tbqh.

>>32806423
He is cute. Can we keep it ?

>>32806423
>t.rainbow haired 200lbs dyke

If the surrendering individual comes from a country that offers rights to POWs then yes.

If the surrendering individual comes from a country that doesn't offer rights to POWs then no.

Only seems fair. You treat others the way you want to be treated.

>>32804136
ayy

If behind enemy lines the answer is no,especially if we're fighting mudslimes or globalists.

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>>32806423
yeah, sure, you would do that

>>32806423

this desu

killing invading soldiers in your homeland is a moral imperative

>>32811095
>Bales did nothing wrong

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>>32807159
>good luck trying to invade with the moon rune dune coon looney tune platoon, fucko

I love you, anon.

>>32804136
I'm brown but i agree with this.

>>32813215
Looks a lot like a CETME/G3 to me.

>>32815026
Samefag.

>>32804377
>the Muslim... cannot be converted or dealt with in any way to make him suitable for shared civilization. All superstitionists a shit but the Muslim cannot reform and his mates will kill him if he tries.
This is important. The nature of the enemy is important. Anon uses the example of muslims, who are incurably fanatical and have been so since long before the modern West even existed(I can provide a Kublai quote to btfo any idiot that says muslim behavior is a response to recent insults). Muslims cannot be trusted or suppressed - their beliefs won't allow peace. Killing them in droves, killing their women to reduce their power of population, these are reasonable things. But this kind of cruelty shouldn't be done to an enemy that isn't like them - a good counterexample is German atrocities on the Eastern front: millions of potential anti-communists who were jumping at the chance to fight off their masters. Instead of cultivating them, instead of putting on a show of "liberating" and delivering food, they slaughtered them a la Tamerlane. So these potential anti-Russian slavs in effect were forced into the arms of Papa Stalin. Stalin thought he was to be executed and replaced early in Barbarossa. Instead, the Soviet nations rallied under him, and strengthened the soviet state to a degree even his purges couldn't do.

tl;dr - it's not a simple moral question, but a strategic question. The answer can only be found in understanding the psychology and sociology of your enemy

Definitely if they were commies.

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>>32804735

t. Justin Trudeau

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>>32814759
>killing jews and bolsheviks is bad

>>32804125
If you knew that they'd done the same thing to your side (or a comparable crime like rape) and you wouldn't get caught? Sure but only if you knew they wouldn't go to trial and get executed anyway.

>>32813215
Its a G3, they were standard issue for most branches of the Salvadoran military, I'm trying to see if I can find this picture of my uncle posing in that same uniform but with an UZI, his specific unit would purposefully look for commies and not just kill entire villages that harbored them.

>>32804125
As long as they say JUST A PRANK then we good

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>>32814671
A muslim or a commie can be any race so I don't see any race, I'd kill them all the same

>>32815179
>muh samefag because you were triggered

by parity of logic all the reeeeee in reply were also samefag

>>32811312
Australia?

>>32806423
Sounds like someone just got turned away at the border because of an executive order.

>>32814539
>or even Jews
Literally the Wests worst enemy to our way of life and cultures.

>>32804125
Depends if they're a commie or not

>>32816310
what if its a commie deserter?

>>32811312
It's funny because the woman on the left is an American conservative who makes FB posts criticizing liberals.
And the woman on the right is the worlds first female suicide bomber.
Not even joking.

>>32816783
>first female suicide bomber
>completely forgets about Vietnam
Lol okay faggot

>>32804125

Depends on the enemy.

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>>32804125
>>32804136
I couldn't give less of a shit about race.
If it's a Muslim or a communist, probably not.
These ideologies are pure cancer and both 100% support violence against non-violent people.
>>32816829
It appears you are right about her not being the first.
However I can't find any evidence that the Vietcong used female suicide bombers. The awards still goes to muzzies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_suicide_bomber

>>32816932
Should read "probably" not "probably not".

>>32811407
Good for them! One may not reason with Commies, but killing them works fairly well.

>>32811554
>>Wisconsin is the most German state in the union

It's filled with Muslims and all the women cuck their slaves with BBC? Not reassuring...

>>32811095
Confirmed for a very slow zebra.

>>32806579
This, really.

If i was back in 1944, i would give the surrendering soldier a Garand, teach him "Die Krout!" In English, and set him out against the SS. Those guys were forced and gun point to fight.


A Jihadist? I'd poor gasoline and light that bitch and his family on fire. I aint messing around with a future war.

>>32804136
fpbp.

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>>32811454
Does his helmet literally read sex on the front?

>>32809287
Eisenhower "lol oops'd" a couple hundred thousand German POWs in open air internment camps during winter and spring. They didn't get enough food, they didn't much have medical care, etc, and of the several million who were in these large, multi-square-mile camps, a reasonably large number died of exposure and malnutrition.

Was it objectively wrong/bad? Probably. Still, given the shitshow that was WWII human rights violations, and considering the winning side did it, it didn't turn into much of a stink. At least they weren't being actively worked to death like the Germans who were sent to Siberia, or gassed and shot like the Russians captured by the Germans.

>>32816299
Actually that's the Homos and Sodomites.

>>32808213
(You)

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>be me a corpsman in afghandyland
>take fire but have apaches in the area
>they do what they do
>they're bingo on fuel and go home
>we roll up on the targets they engaged
>one is still somehow alive despite blown out hip, with whats left of his leg dangling
>realized i haven't eaten yet and pull part of my rat fucked MRE out of cargo pocket
>cheese ravioli
>marine says doc we should take care of him
>tell him I'm eating and making sure the rest of the guys are ok first.
>finish eating and take a dump
>about 20 minutes after we arrived on sight i finally walk over to wounded EPW
>no pulse, probably bled out.
>"oh well call the Afghan police to come get them" my squad leader says.
>mfw

>>32817715
you should've shit on him hahaha
*shits on face
pretty befitting of a terrorist don't you think?
*steps on head
DIEEEEEEEE

>>32817746
I didn't touch them if i didn't have to there edge lord

>>32804136
this

>>32808213
Faggot.
Radicals aren't people and are not covered by any conventions held by civilized nations.
Mudslimes =/= people. This is fact.

>>32814904
He ain't a real Canadian, he's a pussy; why do I have to suffer these weaklings in my country damnit.

>>32817766
>Lets an enemy combatant die so he could eat cheese spaghetti and shares the story on 4chan
>calls others edge lords

>>32808213
They sure as fuck wouldn't spare us if the situation were reversed. Just look at what happened to St. Domingue.

>>32804125
if its ww2 and I'm fighting the japs, then yes, I would, just to be safe.

>>32814232
Nope.

>>32805691
expensive in a monetary sense.

valuable in an intel and bargaining expense.

John French nearly pulled the BEF out of France early in WWI because it looked like the Germans might surround and capture them.

Getting >20,000 Soldiers as POW would have given the Germans leverage to take Britain out of the war.

>>32806595
lmao right? stupid sand nigger

>>32807159
nice quote. i like you

>>32808290
nice reference

>>32817766
that isn't an edgy story that shit was fairly common among other corpsman and medics i know

>>32819019
was meant for
>>32817882

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>>32808213
>We're not on Reddit any more, Toto

>>32808213
That was just too easy, wasn't it.

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>>32804136
There was no need for anything further beyond this point.

>>32809697
Frank is on a different fucking level then 99% of humanity.

>>32804735
>This is why we'll never win a war against hajis and islamist, we move a mountain to be humane and careful but they'll chop us up and video tape it for fun.

But this is exactly why we are better than them. If we stoop to their levels, are we any different? Not even being a hippy, just a general statement.

>>32804125
I read that America and Germans in ww2 wouldn't take you prisoner and would execute you of you only surrendered because you were out of ammo. I agree with that thought process.

>>32820450
Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

>>32804136
This right here

>>32804377
>Good and evil are almost random imaginary constructs that anyone can make up out of thin air. See also, religion.
costanza face

>>32804125
do his boots look about my size

>>32806532

Which vault is he laying on top of?

>>32817419
ITs some insignia with the mayan dragon thingy that was the symbol of the biggest death squad in El Salvador

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>>32808213
It's not racist if they're not human

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Only if they're bourgeoisie