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Chinea develops new explosive with 100-times the power of TNT

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>Chinese scientists successfully composed a stable Pentazole (HN5) with hydrated ammonium chloride salt. It's a very potent combustion chemical agent able to develop into propellant or even a bomb with 100x yield of TNT.
>It has potential use as a "Clean Nuke" without radiation.

The report has been submitted to Sciencemag.org:

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/355/6323/374

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentazole (About)

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/galway-discovery-ahead-of-the-world-1.718468

^Previous attempt by Irish scientist at 2009, still no fruition so far

>tfw N2 bombs could become reality
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No, that was Akira
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probably a meme
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I would be most interested in its usage as filling for anti tank warheads.

imagine an RPG-sized warhead completely obliterating an Abrams from the front.
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Where are you getting that this has a 100x yield over TNT? I've read all 3 sources which only corroborate its use as a potential rocket fuel with the setback that it's incredibly hard and uneconomical to store.
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>>32803618
no. 1 N2 was japanese
no. 2 china will probably accidentally set it off in factory like they do their fireworks
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>>32803672
>hard and uneconomical to store.

only if you value human life.
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>>32803672
An extremely chemically unstable propellant always has its uses as an explosive as well.
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>>32803715
You have to freeze it to arctic temperatures to separate the N5- and HN5 from the composite and it only stays valid for a few minutes, according to the Irish research team.
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Kek, Chinese media is literally using Evangelion as an example:

http://www.guancha.cn/military-affairs/2017_01_28_391688.shtml
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>>32803618
retard question

can it be used as propellant in small arms or artillery?
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>>32803720
That's not a source for its YIELD. We don't use, for example, Gasoline as an explosive propellant much anymore because it has a small explosive yield compared to volume.
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>>32803671
Dont worry, the Abrams is getting fucked up good already.
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>>32803741
It's a proposed new rocket fuel.
So no, even in small enough quantities to work for that purpose it just wouldn't be cost effective.
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>>32803672
>>32803744

It's literally written in the abstract of the paper on Sciencemag:

>A salty route to an all-nitrogen ring

>The flip side of the robust stability of N2 is the instability of any larger molecules composed exclusively of nitrogen. These molecules nonetheless remain enticing targets for explosive and propellant applications.
>for explosive and propellant applications.
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It's a relatively stable compound with lots of N-N bonds which makes it very suitable for use in explosives, however this paper is one of the first steps in the path to making it something that's packed inside a warhead
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https://phys.org/news/2016-12-five-membered-nitrogen-compound.html

Looks like the US was researching towards that goal as well last year:

>Understanding the chemical processes governing the synthesis of single-bonded, nitrogen-rich compounds is one key required to unlock viable production strategies of high-energy-density chemical propellant and explosive formulations. Highly energetic single-bonded pure nitrogen phases have been previously synthesized; however, development of feasible applications has been denied due to the extreme synthesis conditions and their intrinsically low molecular stability.
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>>32803741
It could be a fine primary explosive for tank-gun shells.
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>>32803766
THAT IS NOT A SOURCE FOR A YIELD 100X THAT OF TNT YOU DENSE FUCK
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>>32803747
How is this related to anything now?
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>>32803618
SO WHERES THE SOURCE THAT ITS 100X THE POWER OF TNT
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>>32803810
That's a source on its potential usage as explosive material. The yield claim is based on the energy density of this new nitrogen. It has a energy density of at the level of magitude of 10^4 to 10^5 J per gram, which is 100x of TNT.
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>>32803830
Source:

B. A.Steele, I. I.Oleynik, Sodium pentazolate: A nitrogen rich high energy density material. Chem. Phys. Lett. 643, 21–26 (2016). doi:10.1016/j.cplett.2015.11.008
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I, for one, welcome our Chinese overlords.
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>>32803715
>only if you value human life
China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch-g5shlGxw
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The year of the rooster begins quite great. It has been predicted to be a year of scientific advancements for China.

Looks like it already started.

First the new High Power Microwave Weapon reveal, and then this.

http://www.popsci.com/china-microwave-weapon-electronic-warfare
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If it's extremely unstable, it's useless as a weapon.
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>>32803878
Well, the question always was to find a stable formula. At least to enable you to store and carry it.
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darpa probably made it in the 80s and the gooks just now stole it
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Call me when they can figure out how to store it for longer than 5 minutes.
We can make explosives more powerful than a nuke and have been able to since the 60s. The problem was always that the only thing they'd blow up is you if you tried to make them.
Guess they'd be useful for some snackbarring, but then it's hard to set up a chemistry lab in a crowded area too.
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>>32803841

Most will only have access to the abstract, if you want to make that claim post the part that makes the claim.

That said, I'm sure with such a high percentage of bonded nitrogen it is very energy dense, the big issue will always be stability, as much as the Chinese paper claims stability for military usage it will need to stay stable for long periods of time stored at ambient temperature & humidity, and treated roughly by servicemen.

The US and most other Western countries have moved to insensitive munitions where possible because the risks of higher performance, but unstable explosives are outweighed by safety. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insensitive_munition
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>>32803830
Energy density has fuck all to do with R.E. Factory you USELESS TWAT.
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