Is the RK95 /k/ approved?

>>32796023
is it gun

>>32796445
It's the gun pictured

>>32796023
It seems like it would be alright. Most of us Americans have never shot one.

>>32796023
Never fired one so cannot say, would like to though.

>>32796023
Almost no one in America has fired one unless they did some sort of joint training exercise with the Finns.

>>32796496
guns are weapon

>>32796512
Weighs about 3.8 kilos (8 pounds?)
Can accurately shoot up to 300m and firerate of 600–750 rounds/min

>>32796544
So it's a milled 7.62 AK like all the other milled 7.62 AKs.

>>32796023
I hear it's kinda front heavy compared to the RK62
But it is still one of the best AK variants

>>32796568
Mostly yes. Improved version though

We definitely approve of it here, it is superbly reliable and well suited to the cold forests of its homeland. Only complaint that comes to mind is the weight.

>>32796023
Would any of you buy one?
(P.S. If I lost one it would only cost me a measly 2000e) :--DD

>>32796582
Improved how? So far I'm not hearing any improvement.

>>32796648
I would buy a parts kit with a torched receiver and a virgin barrel, but that's it.

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>>32796023
it's literally the absolute best "AK style" firearm ever created.

>>32796695
Overall higher QA and fit of parts than your typical mass produced AKs, resulting very robust and accurate gun.

Tons of small additions, like expanded mag-release paddle that lets you poke the mag off with your trigger finger, adjustable gas system, that together with the unique muzzle device (which doubles as brake) allows firing of rifle grenades, 3 position peep-style rear sights at the very back of the gun, flip up night sights, folding stock, gas tube is not locked down like on normal AKs and is removed by pulling it out from the inside... etc

Some FDF's forces actually use RK95+ACOG as literal DMRs, hitting targets at almost 500 meters. That's with normal, Finnish produced 7.62x39 ammo.

>>32796776
Did they change the barrel profile? Because you aren't getting good accuracy out of your average AKM barrel profile. Sounds nice, though. I'd like a significantly lightened version.

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She is /ak/ approved.
Also my dick approved.

>>32796798
RK95s were produced with match barrels. Most of them are probably worn pretty well past that point by now, though.

>>32796776
Id like to see one vs a sig 556r. Id argue the sig is better

>>32796809
Cartoons aren't real and you will never fuck her.

>>32796820
Match barrel means nothing.

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>>32796798
>Did they change the barrel profile?
Nothing in RK rifles is comparable or compatible with any other AK-like firearm. Except the mags of course.

It's pretty much the same deal as back in WW2 and with Mosin-Nagants and the Finn M28 - M39 rifles; they took the basic Ruskie idea, and perfected it the best they could.
It's a well known fact that Israelis bought the blueprints of RK62 back in late 60s, and created their Galil rifle out of those.

>>32796831
I'm never fucking a 3D women either so what's your point?

>>32796850
>Nothing in RK rifles is comparable or compatible with any other AK-like firearm.
All right so is it thicker or what? From what I can see on these photos it doesn't look much different.

>>32796023
I would sell my left nut for a Valmet. This thing is a better Valmet.

You can bet your mongol ass that it's /k/ approved!

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>>32796820
>Most of them are probably worn pretty well past that point by now, though.
my buddy, who served back in 2008, got a brand new rifles out of the box, together with his entire squad. So there are some untouched SAKOs still around, but they're becoming literal unobtainium. One reason FDF is now refurbishing and fitting good condition RK62s.

>>32796844
I said match barrel because I don't actually know what the FDF's specific accuracy requirements for a new rifle are; I just know they're capable of better than 1 MOA with ball ammo.

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>>32796885
to be honest, I don't have exact details, and some of the info's kinda secret.

What I do know that the barrels on RKs are NOT chromed, and are slightly tighter + got their own twist rate. All these were considered necessary by FDF's big shots back in the days to ensure best possible accuracy results (Finns have always been into marksmanship). However, because of this, shooting old Soviet steel ammo is not recommended.

The RK95 also is designed to manage hotter rounds with better armor piercing characteristics. But again, I lack detailed info on that.

>>32796023
Finnish RKs are marksman's weapons. Not a soldier's weapons.

Really good iron sights, really accurate and easy to shoot even without optics.

But the recoil is higher than on .223/5.56mm AR pattern rifles and the AK-style controls are worse. Also no bolt hold open.

Excellent weapons, but not ideal in the assault rifle role. They're more like battle rifles with intermediate cartridge.

>>32797027
>But the recoil is higher than on .223/5.56mm AR pattern rifles and the AK-style controls are worse. Also no bolt hold open.
All either literal non-issues unless you're a manchild, and highly subjective matters. I find the "recoil" of M43 to be laughable, and the muzzle brake + weight of the milled guns make it even more controllable.

>>32797027
>They're more like battle rifles with intermediate cartridge.
So, assault rifles.

>>32797051
mee nyt vittuun /_\

They are all real practical issues, especially for a conscript force.

Forgot to mention, the unadjustable stock is also an issue in RK rifles. Bad ergonomics for short/tall shooters or with certain vests.

>>32797071
Well, no. They retain characteristics of battle rifles more than most assault rifles despite firing lower powered cartridge. FDF doctrine also uses them more like battle rifles. They even defend the 7.62x39mm cartridge with arguments that usually would be applied to full-power rounds - things like better penetration in finnish forest environment and longer effective range. The truth is, we just have shitloads of 7.62x39mm in stock.

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>>32797147
>They are all real practical issues, especially for a conscript force.
but they are somehow "not assault rifles", no matter that they are literally based on THE most iconic assault rifle of modern era?

>the unadjustable stock is also an issue in RK rifles.
eh, quite non-issue if you ask me. A small annoyance that you learn to live with. However, the 62M will have NATO stocks, so problem solved?

>The truth is, we just have shitloads of 7.62x39mm in stock.
and that 7.62x39 is all locally produced, fairly high-grade stuff, that does fuck shit up very well. The ammo type's overall design also works better and more reliably than typical 5.56 NATO ammo, when it comes to varying barrel lengths, twist rates, powder mixtures, etc.

Don't think anyone's ever claimed it to have superior reach, but effective range of 300 meters with irons alone is more than enough for innawoods & urban combat.

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>>32796538

>>32797223

the finnish army is full of trolls, stealing communist supplies and guns and making them better

>>32797223
>but they are somehow "not assault rifles",
You need to do some SRA shooting with both M92 and an AR15 pattern rifle to understand what I mean.

RKs are great for what FDF uses them for, but poor assault rifles. The controls are bad, changing mags is clunky as fuck, they're heavy, the recoil is bad. Great for sharpshooting, not so much for, well, assaulting. They bear most of the flaws of AK pattern rifles.

>eh, quite non-issue if you ask me. A small annoyance that you learn to live with. However, the 62M will have NATO stocks, so problem solved?
Indeed. It's funny how you first downplay issues and then admit even FDF thinks they need to be fixed.

Stupid fanboys. Still, they're excellent rifles and adequate for their role.

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>>32797296
You call them "trolls", I call them some of the wisest men on earth.

Ruskie shit is made to work and last. Improving and building on top of such simple yet important factors results pure diamonds.

>>32797316
I actually do SRA, and I greatly prefer AKs in every possible way. You seriously need to start lifting and PRACTICING with your gun.

>>32797341
Hold on... so now your argument is that AK-pattern weapons require more strength and practice than other options?

You're literally saying they're worse than others. Brilliant.

>>32797426
>.. so now your argument is that AK-pattern weapons require more strength and practice than other options?
No. My argument is that you're literally weaker beta than some females I know, that have no problem handling the AK's / RK's weight and implied kick.

I can swap an AK mag faster than some people can do the same with an AR. Also, fuck lubing your guns to have 'em work

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>>32796850
fun fact, they included a bottle cap opener in Galil because Finn conscripts bent the metal magazines on opening bottles and ruined them. Finn's solved the problem later on with plastic magazines.

>>32797451
>I can swap an AK mag faster than some people can do the same with an AR
Yes, we all know AR mag swaps are much faster for most people, thus making it objectively superior.

Keep digging yourself deeper into that hole, you unique snowflake. :^)

>>32797547
>Yes, we all know AR mag swaps are much faster for most people,
''we'' do?
News to me. Got sources for your claims?

You all sound like this overbearing slob literal worst of K incarnate I heard at the gunstore a while back. Tall fat ill fitting mall cop paul blart dressed with literal pit stains. Uncle mikes holster, glock of course. Me and clerk are talking about hk, particularly a 91 im holding they got a bunch of them in who the fuck knows from where I didnt even think to ask. Guy keeps butting in trying to force his way into the convo but has a know it all condescending attitude. Clerk and I try to not sound rude answering his questions, roller delayed what now wtf is that? How much does that cost? 2k!? Imported pfft. Who is this hk? For 2k did they at least get it right? Me and clerk look at each other like wtf. Clerk starts telling him how an hk clone averages about 1k blah blah I left.
Anyways point is you all are acting incredulous making the most basic of observations and feel like your ignorant less than worthless since you know nothing opinion means something. Sit the fuck down fools, if you dont know anything you get to make questions not statements. Finnish ak pattern rifles are considered to be the perfected form of an ak and were the basis for the galil which is also a contender for that title. Some of this would sound familiar to you if you actually read up on weapons development and firearms history.

Also if you're that guy from shooters world in Phoenix unfuck yourself you goddamn basement dweller. You looked like a fudd fell in love with trailer park trash and they bubbad you into this world, break the cycle better yourself.

>RK95
>Made by SAKO
>The same SAKO who sold their stuff for export under the name Valmet
>The same Valmet that produced the M76
>The same M76 that is sometimes regarded as the ultimate AK platform rifle
>The same SAKO which designed the RK62
>The same RK62 which the jews designed the Galil off of
>The same Galil that is usually recognized as the ultimate AK platform
I do approve.

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>>32801530
I want to add a 5.56 Valmet M76 with RK95 furniture, and a 5.56 Galil to my collection for no specific reason. Pic unrelated.

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>>32801922
I know the feeling anon.

t. guy who bought a PTR91, M1A and is currently building an L1A1 repro for no particular reason.

>>32796023
Great rifle, not as good for operating as I'd like, because the weight is annoying and the irons are not designed for fast paced shooting. Probably the absolute best AK for bench shooting though.

>>32797547
Two-lug mag catch is the more secure one though, and you're a lot less likely to get a poor seat. Also it's easier to insert a full AK mag into closed bolt, since the front lug in a mag acts as a lever.

T. Have both a Sako M92S and a DD AR15.

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>tfw you'll probably never shoot one again

>>32801922
>Valmet M76 with RK95 furniture
This sounds reasonable, but where the fug would your source the furniture from? There arent any parts kits that I know of for the RK95.

>>32802125
>tfw at refresher excercise last spring
>tfw issued a 95 instead of a 62
>tfw going again this spring

Liittykää pojat maakuntakomppaniaan niin pääsette ryysältämään vähän useammin.

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>>32796820
The worn out barrels are changed by the FDF armory. It's like any other gun part: if it gets broken or worn out, it will be replaced.

>>32802175
Pääseekö maakuntakomppaniassa päristelemään vaunuilla?

>>32802139
Not him, but the Galil para stock is pretty damn close to the RK95's. The handguards though, I'd have no clue on. Maybe use some airshit ones as a template and have someone make polymer ones that will fit the M76 handguard retainer?

No idea for the charging handle or the muzzle brake.

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>>32797316
Finnfag here who has both and ar-15 and a M76 Valmet also known as the civvy version of the RK-62
I have run both guns with irons and I think they are very evenly matched. The AR has a better geissele trigger and easier mag change but the Valmet has better ergonomics and the best iron sights I have ever used.
Oh and I can do double taps with them just as fast in close range.

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>>32802205

Written forest elf language has to be the biggest train wreck of letters I have ever seen.

Anyway, here's my Jew copy of your lovely AK variant.

>>32802205

what the heck kinda moon rune snow coon gibberish is this

>>32802229
That pic was better without the zergface, just saying.

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As far as the extended AK family goes:
1) Sig 55X series (swiss only, americans btfo)
2) Rk95 / Rk92
3) Galil / R4

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>>32802273

The 550 and more recently the 553 were imported into the US. They just didn't sell well because few wanted to pay the $3000+ price tag. 550s are pushing $10k now on the collector market.

Also pic related, my moderately not shitty US made 551A1 with 551 parts thrown in to improve it's many faults.

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>>32802286

Sig Sauer tried to sell american made Sig 556s here in euroland for about 1500 euros, while the original SG551SB was going for 2100 euros at the time. Obviously it didn't sell.

Then SAN SwissArms raised prices to about 3000 euros a pop, and Sig Sauer thought they had a chance. So they brought in Sig 551A1 for about 2000-ish euros. It still tanked. :)

Stores were stuck with stock until they started selling at loss from what I hear.

>>32802251
>That pic was better without the zergface, just saying.

Not him, but here it is.

>>32802299

The SG551SB would probably sell well here in the US around the $2000 mark. I'm guessing import/export taxes and fees makes that price point impossible though.

Not surprised in the least the SIG USA 556 didn't sell well there after going through a similar markup. They weren't particularly good rifles to begin with even after getting the major issued fixed in later versions.

>>32796809
Neck yourself cunt

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rk

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>>32802242
Where's the bayonet lug? Who did that to your raifu, and why would anyone do that?

>>32802330
Weird stock and lacks the mag release guard.

>>32802251
get off ma /k/

>>32802434

Because bayonets are scary and stab babbies.

I really have no idea why so many front sight blocks here lack the bayonet lug. My guess is leftovers or the same equipment making them from when the Assault Weapons Ban was in effect here.

From what I've heard it's probably the best AK pattern service weapon that's in use, built with far better QC and machining than anything produced in the Eastern Bloc

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>>32796023

It's great. I miss mine.

>>32802473
>best AK pattern service weapon that's in use
Not when the Ak-12 (Ak-400 variant not the shitter one) and Galil ACE exist.

>>32796023
It's a nice gun. The major issues are weight. Finland needs to take it's shot out guns, replace the barrel with a small profile 12," and run a carbon fiber handguard that extends above the top cover. It'd knock the weight down to something reasonable, allow modern accessories, and you aren't giving up anything ballistics wise as 7.62x39mm only loses ~200fps going to an even shorter 8".

>>32802796
>200fps
It's 2017, stop measuring distances in body parts you barbarian.

>>32802806
Wow rude.

>>32802205
Fuck man I read some letters from my polish grandpa and decided that was the stupidest clusterfuck of any language.
I was clearly wrong.

>>32802806
Fuck off, moron.