What will be the first gun you'll buy? KS-23 will be my pick.

>>32785836
AK-107 if I could.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJs9sBBjLls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTKatc_IBQk

>>32785836
$1000 says you'll never get one.

>>32785836
A Grach or a Viking
Or maybe a real AK that's not an American made piece of shit

>>32785836
Nuggets for a dime a dozen

For now I'd be happy with some more spam cans of 54R. But hopefully one day a VSS

does this mean $50 mosins again

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Is there any chance in hell of the Russians finally putting the MP-412 into production? Fucking Bill Clinton.

>>32786401
No, it means $150-175 Mosins that people will buy by the crate because "at least it isn't $200."

>>32785836
>>32786213

Repealing the sanctions isn't going to get you one of those. We would need to get rid of o amend the Clinton-era deal that default banned all firearms from Russia except those exempted by name.

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How much do you think they'll go for?

>>32786436
How much does a Saiga in .308 cost?
$300 or so more than that because muh Dragunov.

>>32785836
>doesn't buy thousands and thousands of surplus rounds

>>32786436
If these come in cheap enough they could drive down prices on 7.62 semiautos here. It's ALWAYS pissed me the fuck off that anything semiauto in a "big" caliber costs $2K+ whereas an AR in 5.56 can be had NIB for $599 or less

>>32785836
still wouldn't be importable unless the BATFE determined it had sporting merit. the only reason we can even import 12ga shotguns is because they have been determined to have sporting merit.

>>32786493
Isnt there a bill in the works that changes the sporting clause to basically say "all legal purposes"?

>>32785991
Dat trigger reset in the second video

>>32786469
this, fuck the rifles if theres just a goldmine of surplus ammo thats where my money is going

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>>32785836
pic

>>32786474
>anything semiauto in a "big" caliber costs $2K+
Zastava M77 is 650-750
Vepr 7.62x54R or .308 is 700-800
PTRs can be had for 750+
FALs are 850+
AR10s can be bought or built for around 1000

>>32785836
A Mosin, because I unironically like the gun and I also don't want something nice which I might break

>>32786569
Most of those are about $100 short, but yeah, well under $2k. Where do you even find m77s? I havent seen a single one for sale since after online stock ran out. I cant imagine there being that many out there.

>>32785991
That is ridiculous even for 5.54, which I assume is what those rifles are firing.

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>>32785836
>ahegao anime girl.jpg

>>32786530
Benis is of interested.
Tellings of what is?

>>32786625
lebedev pl-15

>>32785836
Could we see the return of the $99 m91/30?

>>32786436
i want to say they are like 1000-1500 converted to usd in the euro countries where they are commercially available but i'm just going off memory and i could be way off. i would expect to pay an addition 500-1000 dollars in cool tax if they were ever imported (which would require the repeal of the ban that explicitly names them) unless they were imported by the absolute fuck load, and even with that level of imports it would probably take a couple years to saturate the market and see price drops.

it would be nice if any euro anons could comment on price.

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>>32785836
>trump will never lift sanc---

I'm never listening to shills on /k/ ever again

>>32786506
if there is i'm not aware of it but the trump administration has been in a flurry of activity since taking office and it's difficult to keep track of.
amending that clause alone would HUGELY change the diversity of the american market assuming the logically accompanying changes were included, ie magazine capacity / pistol weight, etc.

>>32786601
I just looked and you're right, looks like M77s are only available used for inflated prices. That's too bad.

I'd like to buy another nugget. I sold my first one and regret it. I want a nice, pre-WWII rifle and a few spam cans.

>>32786530
is that just a standard ball round thats black with red sealant?

>>32786646
Now just prepare for

>See?!? I told you he was a Russian plant!
>Ignore all this money I took from the Saudis, it's those evil Russians you need to worry about!

>>32786646
people don't realize telling Trump he can't or won't do something only motivates him more to prove them wrong.

>>32786832
Might be some kind of AP, it necks down below 9mm

>>32785836
9mm ak74 krink jobbers

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>>32786856
the saudis are working overtime with soros to fuel the social fire since they've failed politically.

pic related, head organizer of the womans march somehow managed to make SHARIA FUCKING LAW a feminist issue that they are now advocating for.
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1485146264904.webm

>>32786430
Stop trying. These idiots aren't even old enough to remember a president Clinton. Let them live their ridiculous delusion.

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>>32786622
>Retractable Dong handguards
What will those crazy slavs think of next?

Svt-40
Dragunov
VSS (PLS)
Assloads of 7.62x54r surp

Nugget and some kind of AK variant probably. I'm a simple man.

>>32785836
>Buy American, hire American

Why are you expecting someone who supports protectionist policies to allow more competition with domestic companies? Also this is a terrible idea.

Why didn't you guys buy this stuff in 2008-2012 before Obama put sanctions on Russia?

>>32787124
I'm only 21

>>32785836
An SKS that isn't shit

>>32787160
So? You could have $50 Mosins and $100 SVDs until 2013 apparently.

>>32785836
You guys know that repealing the sanctions will only allow the guns on the VRA to come in, right? You're not getting anything not on that list unless he repeales the VRA

>>32787207
Here is the list

Firearms Permitted to Be Imported into the United States from the Russian Federation

Pistols/Revolvers

1. German Model P08 Pistol

2. IZH 34M, .22 caliber Target Pistol

3. IZH 3 5M, .22 caliber Target Pistol

4. Mauser Model 1896 Pistol

5. MC-57-1 Pistol

6. MC-1-5 Pistol

7. Polish Vis Model 35 Pistol

8. Soviet Nagant Revolver

9. TOZ 35,.22 caliber Target Pistol

Rifles

1. BARS-4 Bolt Action Carbine

2. Biathlon Target Rifle, .22LR caliber

3. British Enfield Rifle

4. CM2,.22 caliber Target Rifle (also known as SM2,.22 caliber)

5. German Model 98K Rifle

6. German Model G41 Rifle

7. German Model G43 Rifle

8. IZH-94

9. LOS-7 Bolt Action Rifle

10. MC-7-07

11. MC-18-3

12. MC-19-07

13. MC-105-01

14. MC-112-02

15. MC-113-02

16. MC-115-1

17. MC-125/127

18. MC-126

19. MC-128

20. Saiga Rifle

21. Soviet Model 38 Carbine

22. Soviet Model 44 Carbine

23. Soviet Model 91/30 Rifle

24. TOZ 18,.22 caliber Bolt Action Rifle

25. TOZ 55

26. TOZ 78

27. Ural Target Rifle, .22LR caliber

28. VEPR Rifle

29. Winchester Model 1895, Russian Model Rifle

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>>32785836
Will this remove sanctions on various 9x39mm guns or does Russia keep a pretty tight handle on those?

>>32787218
First to call you a fucking faggot.

>>32787283
What?

>>32787218
Nuh uh! Those are Obama sanctions! If Mosins can come in why aren't they $50?

>>32786436
They're just an average gun that became a meme, but AESTHETICS
I need three, NO, SEVEN!

>>32785836
Has there been any news about national carry or repealing NY/Cali gun laws?

>>32785991
>design gun that mechanically eliminates recoil
>put a muzzle brake on it anyway

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I just want 7.62x54R and 7.62x39 to be cheap
again

But yeah, I'd also unironically suck a dick for a KS-23

>>32787187
Nah other laws and bs orders prevented alot of it

>>32786832
If I remember right it's basically a necked down 9 loaded to super +p++++ fuck your soft body armor pressures.

>>32787426
Bullshit. Trump gonna do it! Don't know how but he's going to! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!

>>32787447
>un-ironically doubting trump at this point
Its been less than a week and hes already begun doing more for gun owners than even the most optimistic /k/ommandos expected. If we can bring this treaty to trumps attention, we may actually be able to import nearly any russian firearm within a few years.

>>32787293
Because now they know people will pay more

>>32785836

Part of the reason I've never cared much for Russian weaponry or equipment was because it generally wasn't all that accessible. If the import bans and sanctions get lifted that might change.

Realistically speaking, what are the chances that the sanctions are lifted and it affecting gun prices? If it's happening within a month, I'll hold off getting an SVT now.

>>32786625
just get a steyr L9-A1

>>32786906
>kids being executed
what the fuck is this cunt babbling about

>>32787543
Bullshit! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!

>>32786436
Same price you fucking mongoloid, these weren't banned from sanctions, they've been banned for decades

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>>32786436
>>32787611
why is it banned tho?

>>32787124
I wasn't old enough to buy gats yet. I bought a nugget for less than market price so it's all good, but I would have gotten a few dozen if I could have done so for cheap

>>32787305
nigger, it was once the most advanced marksman rifle on the planet and they're still damn good guns. They're just not $5k+ good.

t. someone who got to dick around with one for a day

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Can I buy natalia poklonskaya?

Who is she, is this a random tweet form nobody?

>>32787633
Obama didn't want us having slavshit. I remember seeing pallets, P-A-L-L-E-T-S, of these right before the sanctions hit.

The laws keeping everyone from their SVDs and shit are bilateral if I'm not mistaken.

All this means is we might get cheaper ammo again.

>>32785836
>>32786436
>>32786530
>>32786622
>>32787048
>>32787343
Literally all of these are banned outside of sanctions. Way to date yourself as actual children who don't remember what the gun market was only two years ago

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>>32786646
>>32786906
I think I'm going crazy, the president is keeping his word and feminists are embracing an incredibly sexist religion, gun control set to be rolled back...

>>32787633

Only russian firearms listed in the VRA (Voluntary restraint agreement) are permitted to be imported into the U.S, the SKS,SVT, and SVD didn't make the exemption list, it would take a act of congress to undue it on our side.


Then it would take change in russian law on their end to undue, it was a joint between the U.S AND russia, russia also agreed to never allow them for export to the U.S

>>32787678
No you didn't you fucking idiot. SVDs have been banned for decades, Obongo had nothing to do with it

>>32786622

ASVAL can also never be imported due to VRA

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>>32787710

>>32787678
bullshit, they've been banned for decades now.

>>32787710
>>32787683
things have changed since the Yeltsin years. I don't see why the Russians wouldn't want the arms ban removed.

>>32787282

None of the 9x39 guns are listed on the VRA, they dont keep a tight handle on them, russian citizens can purchase them as well as 9x39 ammo.

>>32787711
Dumbass, I was 15 in 2012 but I remember it like it was clear as day! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!

>>32787748
Oh, you're a troll

>>32787710
Many of these weapons are already exported to other countries. I doubt there would be resistance on Russia's end. Our end would be more difficult.

>>32787768
I prefer the term satirist.

>>32787768
Buttblasted liberal*

>>32786419

Russia doesnt have any stocks of mosins left, they arent banned from export right now either, the molot/tula exports that came in a couple years ago was the last of it.

>>32787792
You're not Milo

>>32787816
>But they made 200,000,000,000,000 gorrillion!

>>32787826
Hey, cut me some slack. Everyone starts somewhere.

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>>32787834
Subtract the ones that were lost in WW1,WW2, Destroyed during post WW2 refurb, bought and on the global arms market for decades, and all the ones imported and sold in the U.S when they started showing up in bulk in the late 80's, they are all dried up.
Russia destroyed 4 million surplus firearms a couple years ago, included new in the crate RPK74's, you honestly think they spared the Mosins?
The mosin meme is dead folks.

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IF THE RUSSIAN FIREARM YOU WANT IS NOT ON THIS LIST, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET IT IF TRUMP LIFTS THE SANCTIONS.

"Notwithstanding paragraph (a) of this section, the Director shall deny applications to import into the United States the following firearms and ammunition:

(1) Any firearm located or manufactured in Georgia, Kazakstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Russian Federation, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, or Uzbekistan, and any firearm previously manufactured in the Soviet Union, that is not one of the models listed below:

(i) Pistols/Revolvers:

(A) German Model P08 Pistol.
(B) IZH 34M, .22 caliber Target Pistol.
(C) IZH 35M, .22 caliber Target Pistol.
(D) Mauser Model 1896 Pistol.
(E) MC-57-1 Pistol.
(F) MC-1-5 Pistol.
(G) Polish Vis Model 35 Pistol.
(H) Soviet Nagant Revolver.
(I) TOZ 35, .22 caliber Target Pistol.


[[Page 61235]]


(ii) Rifles:

(A) BARS-4 Bolt Action Carbine.
(B) Biathlon Target Rifle, .22LR caliber.
(C) British Enfield Rifle.
(D) CM2, .22 caliber Target Rifle (also known as SM2, 22 caliber).
(E) German Model 98K Rifle.
(F) German Model G41 Rifle.
(G) German Model G43 Rifle.
(H) IZH-94.
(I) LOS-7 Bolt Action Rifle.
(J) MC-7-07.
(K) MC-18-3.
(L) MC-19-07.
(M) MC-105-01.
(N) MC-112-02.
(O) MC-113-02.
(P) MC-115-1.
(Q) MC-125/127.
(R) MC-126.
(S) MC-128.
(T) Saiga Rifle.
(U) Soviet Model 38 Carbine.
(V) Soviet Model 44 Carbine.
(W) Soviet Model 91/30 Rifle.
(X) TOZ 18, .22 caliber Bolt Action Rifle.
(Y) TOZ 55.
(Z) TOZ 78.
(AA) Ural Target Rifle, .22LR caliber.
(BB) VEPR Rifle.
(CC) Winchester Model 1895, Russian Model Rifle."

The more you guys shit around sucking Trump's cock all complacent and thinking he's getting you the funs you want because he said he'd lift sanctions, the less likely you get those funs. If you want to import something not on this list, this list has gotta go. We can, of course, bring this to Trump's attention and hope that he does away with it.

>>32787906
I'll buy a nagant and 1895

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does this mean I should be buying sks and waiting for the market to blow up in interest, or convincing the slavaboos to sell them now while prices are high so we can all buy Veprs and new cheaper minty russian sks flooding in

>>32787965
No you won't. The Russians want too much for them. That's why they haven't imported them at all.

>>32787906
Sign me up for an 1896 Mauser and a Russian 1895.

>>32787906
NO FUN ALLOWED

>>32787997

Read the thread.

>>32787906
>Trump's attention and hope that he does away with it.

Let's just get liberals to screech autistically that he'll never un-ban russian guns, then we're guaranteed to get them.

>>32787565
Does anything to do with government ever happen within that short a period of time? Use your fuckin' head.

>>32787565
Removing the sanctions isn't going to change much, except possibly bring down the prices on Saigas. Everything else will likely remain the same. And don't hold off on getting the SVT; the SVT isn't being imported because it's not on an 'approved for import' list from over 20 years ago, not because of the sanctions.

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>>32788022
>prices wont decrease on things because people are rational
panic is a thing. im trying to gauge whether it would be good to wait and see if popularity inflates due to this, or sell now on the chance that other owners sell off their milsurp quick in a panic and crash the prices

also theres a chance this is just first stop on the sanction crazy train and that >>32787906 g41, saiga, and vepr look tasty.

Why don't they just make SVDs under the Saiga brand? The Saiga line was only made to get Russian AKs around the VRA.

This thread has made me realize just how far downhill /k/ has gone. When 90% of posters don't know the details of sanctions that were imposed barely three years ago I know most of you are underage or just plain retarded

>>32788168

Russian SKS's haven't been imported since 1993, with removal of these sanctions they are still banned.

If you want to get the older import bans that actually limit our ability to get the hottest new slavshit, take 2mins and send this email.

http://cqrcengage.com/gunowners/app/write-a-letter?8&engagementId=281633

i just want cheap nugget food

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>>32785991
its....so.... STABLE

>>32788204
>Or

Welcome to the club. I've been trying to tell them this for months.

>>32788184

Same reason they never did it in over 20 years of saiga importation, It would be obvious.

The saiga listed on the VRA is based on the AK action, so a SVD design wouldn't pass, Kalshnikov Concern CEO said they were going to submit the AK107 in 2015 before sanctions hit, that might have gotten a pass.

>>32785991
As much as people dislike Larry, I will always find him to be pretty cool.

>>32788250
The ak107 was passed and just about to be imported when the executive action bullshit hit. I really can't wait for it to come in, it sounds sweet

>>32788225
You can have all mine. 4000 rounds at $0.40/rnd.

do you ever wonder how much surplus ww2 submachine guns are just in storage right now?

really makes you thing.

>>32788209
Shouldnt this be sent to congress, not the president?

>>32788261
>$.40/round
You filthy jew

>>32788260
I wonder how this would have changed the parts used in all Saigas.

Maybe CK would have started dimpling gas blocks and FSBs on all their Saigas.

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>>32788244
Nah, I've been here for years and I don't know all the details. There just wasn't a reason to know.

>>32788267
Congress has had years to push this. It'd be better imo for Trump to be made aware of these issues and then inform congress. Could be wrong, still won't hurt either way.

>>32788207
>panic is a thing
>chance this is just first stop on the sanction crazy train
Read, my man. I'm worried about panic selling/buying, but I suppose your insistence answers my question in a way.

them fucking kar98's too.

>>32788250
It's such a subjective line. The text of the VRA states "Saige rifle" and "Vepr rifle" and the shotguns are okay to be imported. Even though the shotguns are about as related to an AK47 as an SVD is.

>>32788281
Find it cheaper then.

>>32788291
I'm curious why you uploaded a video of Not An Argument Man.

>>32788335
*uploaded a picture of videos of
Apparently I can't into English.
Polite sage.

Lifting sanctions will help us but we really need to get rid of the VRA. The best thing we could do is take advantage of the republican majority in both the house and Senate and start sending letters and emails to our relevant representatives.

>>32785836
SVD. I'd buy a thousand dollar surplus SVD SO. Fucking. Fast.

>>32786436
I'd buy two if they were sub-800.

>>32788292
I wasnt the guy looking to buy. Besides, why buy now at 40cpr when theres a good chance itll be coming in for much cheaper soon?

>>32788425
Was for
>>32788315

AK-12 BOIS

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>>32788291
>King of carrot flowers (part 1) cover

Wtf I love Molyneux now

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>>32785991
I know its
>vice news
But skip to 3:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA3Zl1VMjpg&t=307s&ab_channel=VICENews
Fucking hurts man

>>32788435
Because it won't. Especially not from Russia. Hasn't come from Russia since 96.

>>32788472
For what reason, exactly? They have plenty of surplus. Is there a reason to believe they wont sell it?

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truly this is the greatest timeline.

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>>32786906
>Anti-Sharia laws are discriminatory
>Laws against religious laws that are supposed to be held above government that include killing people for drawing the wrong pictures and stoning women for getting raped are bad

And they wonder why we don't think why there's any moderates

They wonder why we fucking hate them

I hope Saudi Arabia gets nuked right at fucking Mecca

>>32788490
VRA.

>>32788490

They dont have plenty of surplus.

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>>32787048
7n6 floods back into the market.

>>32785836
Whatever is the cheapest. I have no money but want to participate in this glorious event

Korean garands probably. Just hope they're not too beat to shit.

>>32788644
>Just hope they're not too beat to shit
I've got some bad news for you anon

>>32788555
As far as i can tell, it only restricts 7.62x25

>>32788559
Source?

>>32788617
7n6 also isn't banned by the sanctions, not that I honestly expect any of you retards to know that

>>32788617
A court ruled in favor of the atf banning it from import on the grounds of it not having a sporting purpose. If we could get rid of that we would see 7n6 and much more imported in to the states

>>32787691

ATF sporting points system blows ass

>>32788617
S-sauce?

>>32788555
Maybe I'm just retarded but I can't think of what VRA stands for.

>>32788666
Zone

>>32788657

If they did we would have seen the surplus over the past 3 years of no mosins and surplus ammo, they destroyed over 4 million surplus guns in 2012 too.


If it was available importers would bring it in.

>>32788657
Other way around. That's the ammo exempt. Or it was at least. They don't have any anymore.

>>32788660
7n6 was banned arbitrarily by the ATF. It would be even easier for Trump to fix the ATF than if it was something congress supported.

>>32788756
The ATF has never been checked like that before, curious how that'd go

>>32788756
This is true. ATF determinations account for a lot of regulation. Think the 1982 open bolt semi-auto ban. That was the ATF

>>32788772
So if the HPA passes and sanctions are removed, could we start seeing russki cans?

>>32788746
ANNEX B

Ammunition Prohibited from Being Imported

into the United States from the Russian Federation

1. 7.62X25mm caliber (also known as 7.63X25 mm caliber or.30 Mauser)

Doesnt look like thats the case.

>>32788740
Theyre still making 54r. They have it, the only question is whether they can or will sell it.

>>32788799
.30 mauser is 7.62x25?

>>32788664
>not having a sporting purpose
What we really need to do is get 3 Gun recognized as a sport by the ATF.

>>32788827
Same dimensions, lower velocity

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>>32788833
Or just git rid of the ATF
And also checked

>>32789196
but then who would shoot our doggos?

>>32789215
DEA (Doggo Execution Agency)

>>32788459
Why is it that every time a video has some Numale in it shooting he is always leaning his head at an angle using his furthest and wrong eye to aim the gun? Even if cross eye dominant there is no way that can feel comfortable.

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>>32789233
This
Also checked

>>32789238
Numales are afraid of guns.

Not a fan of the AK107. If I wanted the feeling of no recoil, i'd use my Wii blaster

>>32788440
It's not gonna happen if if the exemption list was amended. Russia won't sell it. However, we might get AK-107s and AK-108s.

>>32789312
>If I wanted the feeling of no recoil, i'd use a regular AK74M

>>32789312
Kind of wasted on semi auto. I'd be more interested in a AK103, cheap SVT40s, 7n6 and 54r etc

>>32788799
Yup, you're right I'm retarded. Read the whole Annex B wrong.

>>32787691
Can you explain why?

Outside of arms imports bans, I don't understand why what looks like a standard automatic pistol in what seems to be 9mm para.

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>>32785991
>That ROF
>That Control
>That fact I can't get one without a trip to Russia

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>>32788533
the moderates aren't the ones throwing people off buildings and bombing airports, they are just the the crowd cheering the radicals on.
islam is a disease incompatible with western values and the issue is only going to get more intense as useful idiot leftists continue to try to import muslims.
>>32786906
>>32787693
image is just /pol/ psy op similar to the "draft our daughters, hillary for president" campaign.
the woman who organized the march does however have loose ties to isis and hamas.

>>32787565
it would still take a significant for imports to clear customs and the market would have to be over saturated to see a reasonable price drop.

>>32790021
>That fact that it would be utterly pointless on a semi-auto, especially in a SCHV intermediate cartridge like 5.45

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>>32790159
>The fact I can't get it
Seriously, what's the downside of moving to Russia? The Cold? The Second World civilization?

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>>32790193
That you're in Russia

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>>32790193
traffic

Guys, what about an AK107 in .300 Win Mag?

>>32788666

Nice digits senpai.

As for the sauce, just look up "Modifuckers by Zone" or something.

Here's a link; https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/3807330

>>32788291
>How To Cope With Depression
>WATCHED

Wew lad.

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>>32788827

yep

>>32785991
Does the west even have an answer to this?

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The MP412 is dead regardless of import sanctions, right?

>>32790193
The fact that you have less chances of obtaining it in Russia than outside of Russia?

>>32790159
Shut up, this is excellent.

>>32789997
Because it's not on the list of approved imports

>>32790193
Tbh, I'm thinking about it. I'm becoming mildly proficient in Russian because I want to be able to go on russian forums to find people to ship me shit, if the US decides to take a sharp decline I may immigrate

>>32792275
>if the US decides to take a sharp decline
not happening barring force majeure

>>32785836
Dragunov MA with the flecks, but it'll never happen you fucking morons.

>>32789997
treaty with russia and their own export laws.

>>32790193

Its a shithole.

No really.

Its a fucking shithole.

>>32792429
Tbh I'll probably visit once I become proficient enough to not get robbed or scammed or whatever

Not giving a cent to Russian kleptocrats and you shouldn't either.

>>32792275
Why would you emigrate from one broken country to another?

>>32792494

Fuck, russia makes the US look like a downright paradise.

>>32792517
It makes everything look better in comparison, it's practically Detroit: the country

>>32786916
Hey getting rid of that ban is a few hundred calls to congressman away.

>>32786569
>FALS
>850+
Try 1500+

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>>32792567
http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1DSA5821

>>32792785
You linked to a $1000 rifle try again.

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Hopefully they'll start making these and sell them.

>>32787488
What has he done so far?

>>32793122
you said 1500+

your move faget

>>32793174
No he said a 1500 then you said you had a 850 one and got my hopes up and then you crushed them.

>>32793190
In what sense is $1000 closer to $1500+ than to $850+?

>>32793212
When the receiver is aluminum and is not wanted.

>>32791497
You sure about that? It seems like it's not as hard

>>32793288
>>32793212
>>32793190
>>32793122
>>32792785
>>32792567
My glorious Century receiver shits on your wallet. tfw $800 flat

>>32791146
The principle isn't new so I'd assume you can modify all piston driven guns to use this thing. Dunno about DI.

>>32792465
How bad? Is it that much worse than living in the rural country of america?

>>32793141
What are the possibilities of custom machining one? We have schematics and the basic idea right?

>>32786334
>tfw buying nuggets
>10 cents / 12 units

>Spend $100
>receive 12,000 nuggets
>get arrested by the alphabet soup for weapons trafficking
>mfw it was all worth it

>>32786412
I think the factory still functions but I'm not sure if there's a market for those revolvers.

Revolver users can be divided in several groups but a lot of them simply want their guns to look like they're Clint Eastwood(regardless of whether he plays Dirty Harry or unnamed hired gun in wild west; not that I can blame them)

>>32787305
They're actually pretty good guns. Some people just complain about magazine capacity which I guess is kind of reasonable point(but what can you do with rimmed cartridge?).

>>32793396
>Some people just complain about magazine capacity
This is NOT what most people complain about nuggets for

>>32793313
You would need some criminal connections to buy guns (not counting hunting rifles) and I mean like organized crime, not street thugs. Of course, you won't be able to own anything legally too.

>>32787691
It's not about sanctions ya dumb dumb

>>32793480
>What are you gonna get now that the sanctions are going?
>It's not about sanctions
O-fucking-kay

>>32793332
Bad enough that their hot women sell themselves to get out.

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>>32793368
>alphabet soup
What?

>>32785836
Saiga-9

>>32788503
Hot Fuzz is a good movie.

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>>32785991
I've seen airsoft guns with more kick than that

>>32793342
We don't have schematics, you'd need to make one yourself from picture references. At that point might as well design one fully from scratch, I imagine it's just any other top break but with a strengthened latch.

>>32791146
Whatever Jim Sullivan did to this M4, I guess.
https://youtu.be/gOUKXIrDE0I?t=623

>>32795214
Hey, If we can make functioning videogame guns with 3d models we can make a real gun from pictures

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Surprised this wasn't posted

>>32795476
Nvm, I suck cocks

But my statement still stands, I want one pretty hard

>>32792567
I can build my FMAP parts kit up for less than 900 dollars if I borrow the parts.

>>32793593
ATF, CIA, CEDA etc.

>>32793368
Make sure to buy a dog too. Every dog you have buys you an extra 30 seconds to run away as they have to kill every dog in the room before moving to the next one.

>>32787488
>import
>not get manufacturing licences

>>32793141

The odds of them bringing back a design that floundered back in the early 1990s is pretty low even if imports are allowed. Who owns the rights if it even matters?

Fucking Clinton.

>>32787651
No importing coke heads, thank you.

>>32798151
The design floundered because it was explicitly designed for export (hence the name) and they were forbidden from exporting it to the world's biggest gun market.

>>32795463
No

>>32798284
but snorting lines off my dick is a job Americans aren't willing to do

>Russia Sanctions get lifted
>NFA gets repealed
>go to funstore and buy Full Auto Krinkov and suppressor for 500 dollars

A man can dream.

>>32786622
Oh you play CoD and Battlefield, how cute. AS Val scrub

>>32798377
A decent AKS-74U and can would be $$$$ even under those conditions. I mean, a Dead Air PBS-1 is $1099 MSRP by itself.

>>32785836
>Russian sanctions are going away

John McCain and Lindsey Graham are my only hope for stopping Drumpf now.

What about parts kits? Will I be able to buy $50 AK kits like back in the glory days?

>>32798639
>Will I be able to buy dirt cheap combloc shit like back in the glory days?
No.

>>32798561
Shut up fag.

>>32793332
There is corruption everywhere and the mafia control almost everything

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38773608

Russia got played.

>>32793332

Yes anon. It's bad.

>>32793332
Go to /int/ and ask any Russian poster

>>32798521
btfo AS VAL 9mm.will tear your face off

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>>32798521
Last FPS series I touched was CS: Source you fucking child. Consider not playing watered down shit.

>>32798547
They are only expensive because of the very limited market for them.

It's literally a metal tube with baffles that is threaded on one end with a hole on the other end.

If they never had any restrictions to begin with, I'm positive that you could go to Wal-Mart and walk out the door with one for ~$70

>>32787816

I just got a Mosin for $145. The paperwork it came with says it was a Molot import in April 2013. So it was part of the last group of them from Russia?

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>>32798334
Where it was probably meant for. Fuck clinton. Glad that she paid to watch trump become president, to the fucking hilarious detriment of the media.

I'm not from the USA so idk the process but is it not possible to create a petition to repeal the vra? Surely there's enough gun enthusiasts who'd sign it and bring it to the attention of politicians?

>>32802301
we could petition to have it repealed, but lawmakers would have to say yes, then start a long annoying process. They could say no simply out of laziness.

>>32798377
AKs would still on their own be about the $500 mark, maybe more for the snow flake special ones like the 74U.
Suppressors would also probably still cost about the same as the gun, except the snow flake ones because MUH RUSSIAN MADE.
Granted if the HPA goes through and deregulates suppressors, everyone and their mother would be making their own suppressors.
Which, desu, someone should buy some of those maglite kits before that happens, because after that goes through, those kits would likely skyrocket in price.

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>>32787722
Thats not an AS VAL, its a Vikhr
>>32798521
>LOL you must only know that gun from video games!
>Mistakes a SR-3 Vikhr for an AS VAL
I think we all know who the real scrub is here...

>>32790193
If you have money you live like a god.
Average of 2K US per month will make you king of the hill,you will live better than USA.
If you don't have that income,well you are fucked forever its not even funny.

>>32786906
>dat muslim finger salute

>>32802554
>Which, desu, someone should buy some of those maglite kits before that happens, because after that goes through, those kits would likely skyrocket in price.

More likely drop like a rock because everyone with a machine shop will be getting manufacturer paperwork to sell complete units and make 80-percent kits that aren't shit. If HPA goes thru there's no need to nig together core plugs and flashlight tubes when you can turn a much higher profit making better cans. Best way to turn a quick dollar or many would be to find a used manual "chucker"/turret lathe. Some machinists can beat CNC cycle times with those on simple parts which is what they are mostly intended to produce.