/ktg/ #72 Knife Thread General

Derp. OP image is not the silent soldier v1.

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>>32779930
Well well! Brous has awesome designs. Love this knife.

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>>32779930
meme knife. they had to do something with all the pieces of scrap metal they had lying around so they came up with "sheepsfoot" blades

you can tell by my other poor decisions in pic related that I know what I'm talking about

literally a backup shoe knife at best

I've heard people talking about using food safe mineral oil to stop their blades from rusting. I am assuming that it is the same stuff that is used to treat chopping boards and things of that nature?

>>32780788
Didn't know 9Cr13MoV was "sheet metal"

>>32780813
I've heard old shooters say mineral oil is great for gun steel too.

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>>32779930
Nah that's dumb, post knives with tight tolerances and second to none fit and finish.

New to these threads can anyone recommend me a knife for self defense? I'm from California so I feel like a knife is my best option.

>>32781060
Budget?

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>>32781130

>>32781130
Where did this pic come from, anyway? There was a Bladeforums thread where a guy's Seb broke like that, and CRK decided it was a flaw in the steel and replaced it immediately. This pic doesn't seem to be from that thread, though, and it's the only record I can find of a Seb breaking under normal use.

>>32781142
Unknown origin. It's the go-to pic to post whenever Sebenza guy shows up.

>>32780831
Where did you get "sheet metal" from? He said scrap

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>>32781155
Yeah, I've seen it a million times in exactly that context, just always wondered where it came from, and GIS just turns up some 4chan archive threads and a couple of Russian forums I'm afraid to click on.

I actually like the Sebenza and I'm just waiting around for a good used deal to show up. I'm not even in it for the tolerance memes or anything, I just like the simplicity, the blade shape, and the size, and nothing directly comparable is any cheaper than a used Seb.

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>>32781175

>>32781182
Also from bladeforums.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1254418-Broken-blade-Sebenza-21!-I-got-a-knife!-It-looks-like-new!

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>>32781184

>>32781199
Oh weird, I spent a while searching and didn't come up with that thread, even though the title is exactly what I googled.

>>32781182

there are people that like to eat shit (literally). Doesn't say much about the knife.

The sebenza is probably the most overrated knife in existence, under-hardened, and with geometry that belongs on a knife less than half the price.

>>32781060
What part of California? If you're not in the Bay or LA region, you have a decent chance of getting a CC.

If not, I unironically recommend one of those gigantic Cold Steel megafolders. You can carry a folding knife of any size as long as you can clip it inside your pocket (though your local city laws may be different from the state law). So there's really no reason not to go as big as you can, unless you really hate compensating jokes.

It should go without saying that you should get training of course.

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>>32781060
this honestly >>32781395
People love to trash Lynn Thompson and Cold Steel because of their ridiculous videos and "muh mall ninja" but they are the only company consistently making large (4inch or greater) folders with wave openers and insanely strong locks really geared towards self defense. I rotate the large Espada, Spartan and 6 inch ti lite through my EDC and they're all rock solid.

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>>32780744
>sog

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>>32779930
>over 100 dollarydoos for a 2.5 inch piece of D2

>>32781253
Yeah, I found that thread using duckduckgo. Google didn't find it for me either.

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>>32781130
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>>32781237
>so salty

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Plebs

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Plebs.

>>32782321
>grippod
>SCAR 16, not 17
>no optics
>A2 grip

Filthy peasant

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Plebs..

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Utter plebs

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Plebs?

maybe not but it's still ok

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I'm that knife faggot anon btw.

I'm big into knives collecting and using in adventure settings.

You can ask away any doubts about anything

>>32782321
>paying over $250 for an eddie van halen knife
kek

>>32782403
what the fuck is that abomination of a paracord job

>>32782415

Functionality > looks

It's gone now.

It's some cord + some string on top + superglue.

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>>32782405

I love the design.

I plan on dying the handle in some color, like orange, red, pink or blue.

>>32782422
how is it MORE functional if you do a shitty wrap job on half of it?

>>32782438
>completely stripping all value of a knife by dying it pink
hey man you do you, david lee roth would be proud

>>32782441
>>32782441

Because it's not a shitty wrap job, it's a good wrap job that looks bad.

It's thicker than any "muh paracord" wrapping that you can make, and paracord tends to slide up and down.

Due to the design of the sheath, no cord can go up past the point where the knife meets the sheath.

>>32782463
ah makes sense now, never understood why you would buy a fixed blade that wasnt ful tang

>>32782451

I have another black handle from one of those training knives.

Also it's an industrial knife. It has almost no value to me whatsoever other than the monetary one. And it's a knife I plan to use on the mountain, so colors are welcome.

I'm just sick of the tacticool faggot shit and thought the sand handle might take some colors

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>>32782484
>sick of the tacticool faggot shit
>buys the epitome of tacticool faggot knife

>>32782499

Yeah but I honestly think it's a brilliant design for what I need in the mountain.

I dont mind larping or being a memelord, I just dont like the tacticool tryhards. I think changing the color of the sheath / handle would also make it less intimidating.

>>32782515
i dont fault anyone who actually uses their knives but why would you buy a "tactical combat blade" for use innawoods? why not spend all that money on a knife actually built for your intended purpose?

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>>32782527

Its for use in mountaineering.

I got the toy training knife version and I love how it feels.

I need a nice solid knife that's light, has a rubber / synthetic wrap around handle (for the cold) and that is good for stabbing and slicing.

The leaf shape of the shrapnel is perfect, and my small faggot hands fit perfectly on the small handle.

I also like the modularity of the sheath.

INB4 sogfag posts garbage and ruins the thread
Great posts so far.
Also stay out microtech faggot. I fucking hate you

>>32782555
trips check out, fair enough.

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>>32782560

Knife threads bring many trashy plebs

>>32781875
I'd be salty too if my overpriced, useless toy knife broke.

>>32782415
I guess it's to compensate for that utter shit design of a handle.

>>32782892
>lets just cut the middle of the tang out to make it look cool

>>32782917

It lightens it up, it weights like 85 grams or so.

>>32782892

Its comfortable enough as is and for what it is, but there isnt enough purchase for my comfort.

Chris Reeve says it's to tighten up some valve or some shit, which is a retarded thing to do with a knife.

>>32782970
i understand it cuts down on weight but youre talking about less than 3 ounces dude. how much does it compromise the strength of the blade over all by removing the core of the tang?

>>32782983

The hole is what retains the knife in the sheath.

I would have liked Chris Reeve to put some micarta where I put the cord though.

I dont know about the strengh, it doesnt seem to compromise it at all. My guess would be it would snap at the choil regardless of wether it had a hole or not.

I consider it to be tough though, It has saved my life once or twice when I needed to use it as an icepick to climb with my full body+gear weight.

>>32782998
>use shitty knife instead of ice axe while ice climbing
chris, stop making up stories to sell your garbage can knives

>>32783005

Kek what are you on about.

I slipped , stopped myself with the ice axe, and used both the ice axe and knife as ice picks to climb back up again.

>>32782403

Here is a doubt:

Why in god's name would anyone spend $200 on a grossly underhardened 4mm thick no-handled piece of garbage in s35vn for an outdoor use application?

And why should anyone who did such an absurd thing ever be taken seriously on the topic of knives again?

>>32783076
because he's reinhold messner apparently >>32783032

>>32783076

I dont know, I spent 70€.

Its thickness is good for emergencies, if it is underhardened I dont know. You may be talking about the s30v models, this is s5vn I believe. I never had a problem with it.

The handle is comfortable enough for a skeletonized knife, Bill Harsey is a legend.

I think you're somehow guided by memes and what people think of things instead of forming your own oppinions based on experience or even personal interest. I cant really say you shold take me this way or the other, why in the fuck would I care what you (think) you think? Why are you asking me why should you believe me?

It also cuts very, very well and its light.

>>32781480

Looks like the Benchmade bedlam

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>>32783459
all black and tacticool it does, but the espada blade shape is more bedlamish

>>32782403
Are small knives like the Izula useful innawoods? Have you ever taken a folder innawoods and if so which one and why? Is batoning a meme? Why not take a kukri or hatchet instead of beating a knife?

>>32783476

I love that style of blade design. it is aggressive.

>>32783511
>are small knives like the izula useful innawoods
yes, food prep, kindling, dressing game, etc
>have you ever taken a folder innawoods
many people do, they're easier to store and transport rather than large fixed blades and are better suited to the finer campsite tasks
>is batoning a meme
yes and no. i've avoided batoning on trips or never found the need but its all preference really. it could be needed in a certain circumstance
>why not take a kukri or hatchet instead
weight/space or other reasons. some tools are more suited for chopping or batoning, kukris kinda get this reputation that they're the best fixed blade for it but theyre more jack of all trades, master of none type tools.

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>>32783535
me too bud

>>32783511

Yes they are, but ESEE knives rust like motherfuckers.

Nowadays the quality of even shitty products is pretty high compared to the past. Folders are also good.

I use and always carry a multitool that has a folding knife, but I dont take folding knives by themselves

Batoning is not a meme but it's not what you see on YouTube either, which is a meme.

Hatchets and kukris are heavy and can ruin your trip if you end up not needing it. You can split small logs and pieces with a sturdy knife just fine.

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>>32782998

strength is not a problem here. I'm more worried about the retarded finger grooves, that don't work except in one particular grip, and when you are working with a knife, the more ways you can grip it, the better.
Hint, check out the stubby handle on a mora eldris, or any other similar knife (which mostly means a bunch od ~2.5 inch scandi knives, I know Roselli makes some like that).

And you'd be surprised how touchy ultralight backpackers can get about having a knife under 3 ounces.

>>32783137

>It's thickness is good for emergencies

No. A 2mm spine Mora has no trouble surviving being batoned. Furthermore, since strength rises geometrically with steel thickness any sort of failure is exponentially more likely to begin at the apex and propagate upwards into the primary grind rather than the reverse.

>Underhardened

Knifecenter lists the hardness on the s35vn model as 55-57 HRC which is grossly underhardened for that steel, and for any high carbide stainless steel in general.

S35vn is also a wildly inappropriate stele choice for an outdoor application as it is much more brittle than is desirable, while the wear resistance it has is mostly wasted in that type of application.

Finally, a skeletonized handle self evidently doesn't compare to a proper handle for ergonomics.

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Some of the family in a new home. Not bad for 15 bucks.

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>>32782560
ZT, Benchmade, CS, and Spyderco aren't garbage. The SOG models I own are also mostly not garbage. You are garbage, and all of /k/ knows it. Even worse garbage than me, ffs, you don't even have any knives to share, underage faggot.

Honestly, I think the biggest reason you guys hate "tacticool" knives is because they look awesome but you're too poor to afford.

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>>32783459
The Talwar looks more like the Bedlam than the Espada or the Night Force. Cold Steel said so themselves when they tested the Bedlam vs the Talwar.

Talwar won overall in testing, btw.

>>32783692

The finger grooves work well for slicing.

I agree a simpler handle would be more versatile, but when I used it for an actual emergency I had gloves on and didnt give a fuck about lack of comfort.

>>32783900

A thin mora is bigger and less modular, longer also, inappropriate for stabbing ice and snow. It would also be damaged.

I never had harness problems with my knife, the edge seems durable enough for what I use it.

The knife is great for specific needs, many here seem to be talking out of their asses or out of memes.

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>>32784069
*Talwar won overall in testing against the Bedlam btw

Thought I should add that before espadafags bug tf out.

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>>32784069
>cold steel knives win in every test

>>32783984
ID on the CRKT resting just below the Sharpfinger and the karambit? To the left of the M16.

>>32784084

Actually, it appears to be you who is talking out of your ass, in addition to being g so mentally deficient as to be unable to grasp a simple analogy.

>>32784156

What is it with knife threads and Chris Reeve knives that brings these stupid trashy posters?

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>>32784149
Ohtanashi Noh Ken

>>32784186
Thanks. Is it any good? I like the aesthetics and the weeb appeal.

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>>32784123
They tie now and then. Even if a knife loses, it doesn't make it horrible. So long as it can hold 220lbs of hanging weight, the knife is plenty competent.

As far as hanging weight test went, the Bedlam and Talwar were tied. The Bedlam failed during the 30lb strike test. The axis lock disengaged.

I only own two CS knives by the way. Not that big a fan, just throwing out facts. If I thought knives that can't pass CS tests were stupidm and not worth the money, I wouldn't own these ZT's.

>>32784212
How do you like 452? Ive been on the fence about dropping the dosh for it but I just love the look and how beefy it is. Is the action as good as they say or is it about standard

>>32784123

The lock is truly the strongest there is

But the steel is mediocre for what's out there.

Most folders compare poorly in terms of blade strength ( force over the steel, not the lock)

I'd rather buy a Demko custom than a Cold Steel desu

>>32784211
Yeah I like it, does well as an edc. The designer James Williams is all about weeb culture and samurai, its pretty obvious in all his designs.

>>32784248
You get what you pay for man and they made a good choice upgrading new stock to CTS XHP

>>32784084

emergency is, well, an emergency.

What I'm talking about, is the far superior ergonomics of a "broomstick", or barrel type handle, that allows working on different things for extended periods of time without causing fatigue or hotspots.

>>32784301

That's not what a knife for mountaineering is needed for

>>32784228
different anon who has an 0452
i love it
its big and stabby and scares my coworker sometimes but the actuion is incredible especially after i took mine apart and lubed everything ( also after it broke in)
i think its impossible to not have it open with the flipper once broken in and lubed up
it also drops shut even when tilted at an angle
its not that beefy thickness wise but it fills the hand and is certainly a large knife ( though carrys small for its length )

>>32780936
>Lanyard hole.

>>32784551
Nice collection anon. How do you like the fossil? And whats the one above it to the left? Kinda looks like a boker kwaiken

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>>32784123
These motherfuckers are starting to piss me off. I missed a call back about my espada yesterday and have since tried to call them 3 times with no answer. What the fuck, guys?

>>32784623
i got the fossil as a gift , and it is very much not something i would normally carry
for the price point its rediculously smooth though not quite fall shut smooth but i havent dissasmbled and cleaned it ( still new in box basically)

yes the one above it to the left is a boker kwaiken (non flipper) that i modded to be a flipper ( il post a picture) with just a bit of grinding and filing on the frame and scales and it came out pretty nice
i still need to take it apart again, mess with the detent a little bit do a little more filing etc to see if i can get it even better

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>>32783476
>Aus8a
>Nipsteel can't even chop a tree without going to shit

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>>32784623
>>32784651

Modded kwaiken
It flips pretty decently and still is streamlined
No pocket pecker like on other flippers

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I love Pelican cases, literally the best way to store knives.

>>32784719
id love to buy one but hesitant about spending a bunch on one of hem

>>32784730

I bought the 1300 off amazon for $45 new. It can probably hold around 30 knives that are no greater than 6 inches in length. My bedlam 6800 is like 5.8 inches long and fits perfectly.

>>32784769
>e
it came with foam etc?

>>32784773

yeah it comes with pick and pluck foam, you can cut and pick out the exact length you want. It is a pain in the ass but it doesn't scratch the knives, the pelican case keeps moisture out so they don't rust, and you can lock the case with a padlock.

>>32781130
I love Chris reeve's pompous attitude of large folding knives
>if you want a folding knife bigger than 3.5 inches just buy a fixed blade

Bitch, if I could buy a 5 inch blade sebenza I totally would. Also cold steel btfo'd crk

>>32784788
link to where you got it? also what did ou find the best way to cut it?

>>32784795

https://www.amazon.com/Pelican-1300-000-110-Small-DSLR-Camera/dp/B001AXJPF2/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485465928&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=benpelican+case+1300

I just used my emissary to cut some holes. You could just use your hands to pick out the pieces you want. There are thousands of little squares that can be cut out and altered to any way you want.

I would get the 1300 if you have like 20-30 knives or the 1450 if you have >30. I wouldn't buy a case with a depth of less than 6 inches, as 6 inches will fit almost every folding knife including automatics.

>>32782555
>>32782438
>>32782321
this knife is pure sex, what's the steel? Is it properly treated by italyniggers?

>>32784844
thanks man, hat do you mean by pick out th little squares?
post a pic?

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>>32784886

Not my case but this is a good visualization. You can pluck the squares to the size and shape of the knife and keep removing them till the knife goes in. It is a pain in the ass but the knifes don't move and the material won't scratch them. I store my knives vertically but some do it horizontal for some reason.

>>32784719
I throw mine in my toolbox with the wrenches.

>>32784069
>i know nothing about knives: the post
Although you did defend cold steel.....
So I am conflicted.
also fuck off kid. I am the oldest oldfag here

>>32785500
>I throw mine in my toolbox with the wrenches.

I would be afraid of them getting scratched on the handles and dinged up more.

>>32786398
i just had mine on top of each other in a box before getting a roll but yeah, that was my primary concern even though i never intend to sell any of them.

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why do yall hate spyderco dont get me wrong i do to but why do you

>>32787312
(You)

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Western Bowie Boulder Colorado, favorite fixed blade I have.

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>>32787312
Spyderfags will defend this

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>>32787312
Spyderco is honestly my favorite knife company. Pic related is my EDC. I love it.
>>32788273
Yeah, the Introvert was a mistake.

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>>32787312
I like mine

>>32788273
No Spyderfags will defend the autistic knives. The Jot Singh, Szabo, and Introvert will never be accepted by most of us.

>>32787312
They're actually my favorite brand. People hate them because they grew up a fudd and either worship Chris Reeve or Benchmade and anything different is heresy to them. People also don't like the spyderhole because it adds a lot of width to the knife's profile, making for more difficult carry in some situations, but if people were to wear something other than jeans and suits 24/7 that wouldn't be much of an issue. Spyderco also does a lot of interesting or exotic designs and people get fixated on these and then hate the entire company for that particular knife. Really people that hate Spyderco are the same reason we have anti-vaxxers, liberals, and feminists.

>>32791115
The szabo and szabofly are the only ones i want

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Every day

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Just bought the crkt obake did I fuck up?

>>32781060
Conceal carry firearm if you're able is the best option. Knives should be used as a weapon of last resort. It's your life we're talking about so you'll be taking a huge risk if you literally bring a knife to a potential gun fight.

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>>32779930
I can participate now.

>>32791931
>recurve
>no proper handle

But why?

>>32787312

I'm a fan of the manix 2 and paramilitary 2. Haven't tried the military or para 3, but the former comes in some neat steels that I'll surely end up buying and the latter will come in sprint runs that I won't be able to say no to.

Some of their other designs I appreciate but don't really feel like I need to allocate money to buy them. Especially their framelocks, since spyderco isn't a fan of using steel inserts.

>>32787796
Literally the only non-faggot in this thread.

I've had a Buck 119 for years, and the only time I've ever wanted or needed to use something else was when I got a 110 for church.

>>32791131
>People also don't like the spyderhole because it adds a lot of width to the knife's profile

I never seen this issue in comparison to Benchmade. If anything their knives are ridiculously thinner. I do, however, hate their choice of handle materials for the lower tier knives. Don't care for the frn and I have someone working on handles to replace it on my delica.

>>32791987
Cause that's how it's made. I could suggest to the maker to possibly do a drop point without the recurve. Doesn't matter much to me since I can sharpen it.

>>32791131
>People also don't like the spyderhole because

the Spydie hole is the best thing ever. can't go back to a stud, reaching into my pocket past the knife i scrape my hand on it erry time, especially the Kershaw Blur which has a wicked edge on the stud

Sweet, I was just hoping to find a thread like this.
/k/, I live in NC and currently open-carry a large fixed blade knife. It works great for around-the-farm type work. However, I'm looking at carrying something smaller for when I go into the city, as carrying a fixed blade knife here can get some funny looks (despite the fact it's perfectly legal).

What are /k/'s thoughts on Karambits for EDC? or is that meme tier?

>>32792075
For a lot of us it's memetier, but for you it's perfectly acceptable for farm work. I wouldn't carry one into town though.

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Also got one of my knives back from getting the sheath repaired. The original sheath was kind of thin so the blade cut right through it at the center rivet.

Asked the maker and he told me send it in and I requested for a dangler style. Got it back, free of charge, much thicker sheath, strap built for a dangler, and even added a normal belt carry strap. Great job for Norske Knives.

>>32792091

What's a decent folder for EDC then? It'll be used mostly for work, but also self defense. Should I just carry one for both? I don't mind my current knife, and honestly it's fine for what I do, so I don't mind keeping it.

is there a good balance between the two currently being offered by someone?

>>32792130
Refer to these about the self defense
>>32791896
>>32781395

Just better in the long run to have a firearm.

As for a work knife depends on what you use it for.

A karambit, from my understanding, is great for cutting stalks in farmlands. It would also be well suited for cutting twine. On the flip side, if you go by our resident poster SOGfag, it can be used defensively with proper training to cut ligaments and probably tendons. This is a legal no-no so refer back to the beginning of this post.

>>32792175

Thank you very much. I've got a few pistols, and CC totally isn't out of the question. Open carry is totally an option, but that wouldn't solve my problem of the "weird looks".

I appreciate the sincere reply.

>>32792195
You're welcome. Still doesn't answer your question for an EDC though. So what kind of tasks on the farmland and around the house you plan on using it for?

>>32792204

Currently it would be regulated to (mostly) cutting whatever came in my path. Twine, stalks, kudzu, you name it. My current knife is (go ahead and laugh) a mossy oak bowie I picked up from walmart. Sure, it's a joke, but it's got enough heft for cutting down kudzu without being giganta-huge. Likewise, on the rare occasion I need to cut something bigger (read: small branches) it's a solid piece, so I don't have to worry about the blade breaking.

Basically, I need something sturdy that can hold an edge, and can take a beating. I'm willing to throw some money at it as well, but I'd like to keep it 150 or under if possible. I don't mind a bigger knife, I just don't want something HUGE.

>>32791931
That is sweet, what knife is this?

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>>32792242
>>32792119
I'm this guy, so I like my bigger knives too. For what you need I would suggest any high apex stability steels. These would generally be your 10xx, 52100, aeb-l, think 3v and o1. I would use this knife in conjunction with your burly knife. Something simple like pic related.

Do you know how to sharpen a knife?

>>32792282
A field scalpel made by Jason Lyons. He goes by blackmetal on bladeforums. He has some camp recurves on there right now.

>>32792302

Hah, it took me a while, but yeah, I finally got the hang of sharpening them by stone instead of those cheap-o sharpeners you can get.

Those look pretty nice.

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>>32792317
$100 for the white
$110 for the brown

Or if you want you can look at getting a pocket knife. I'm looking at getting a Smith and Sons mudbug. They're going on sale again 1.31.17 no earlier than 11am CST for $95 or $125 with a sensible belt sheath. Pic related. Good for basic stuff you need done in conjunction with that Bowie of yours.

>>32792336
Dude, thank you. I know a bit about guns, but I know jack shit about the knife market.

>>32792342
There's options out there. Just need to know where to look. Good place to start is bladehq, knife center, knifeworks, and bladeforums. There's guys who come here that know more than I do. Maybe something in sxxv would be better for you to cut twine only. I'm bias toward high edge stability knives over wear resistant knives though and if you know how to sharpen then they will work for you.

>>32780831

He didn't say sheet metal, you stupid nigger.

>>32782403

Fuck off pepsi, you giant faggot.

>>32792421

That faggot tripgad and the toblab faggot ruined /out/

Why do tripfaggots always have to ruin everything

>>32792358
>>32792342

Arizonacustomknives is great.

They have awesome deals on the lower end knives, like 40$ for a carbon SRK

>>32783641

I've never had problems with rust on any of my esees, I live in wet/salty as fuck environment I don't keep the coating on too. Maybe you just suck at knife care, fail to just wipe it down with a oily cloth.

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>>32792468
What fucks.

>>32783984
What's the black CRKT next to the tan M16?

>>32781875
Oh, Sebenza Guy, you card.

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>>32784628
JUST TALKED TO THESE GUYS. THEY ARE SENDING ME A REPLACEMENT ESPADA XL WITH THE NEW STEEL. FUCK YES.

>>32779930
What are your guys opinions on the SOG Seal pup?

>>32793987
Always wanted one, never ended up getting it.
>0/10 for my reply's helpfulness

>>32794009
It was my first knife when i was like 16 or something. I've had it for years. It's a pretty decent fixed blade although I haven't put any real strain on it. It's actually my only fixed blade. I have a spyderco endura 4 partial blade and a spyderco szabofly balisong, so i'm a huge faggot

>>32793860
Another guy asked, its the Ohtanashi Noh Ken

>>32793987
Looks cool but i hate how the jimping and handguard are so awkward.

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i like titanium

>>32792015
Personally I don't mind the FRN, I like it better than BM's FRCP or whatever the fuck they use on the standard Griptilian. But then again the Delica has a lot more value for the money you pay over the Grip so I dunno.

>>32792045
Oh I didn't mean I didn't like the Spyderhole, it's actually my favorite opener. I'm just saying that's what a lot of people that don't like Spyderco will complain about.

>>32792075
The karambit is pretty edgy mall ninja shit. It has its use for cutting stalk plants like corn, sugarcane, wheat, etc. If you do a lot of that then a karambit would be great but it's not as good as a straight blade for literally any other cutting task. If you really need to have one just for fun, get the Spyderco KaraHawk and then get a nice fixed blade for everything else. Fixed karambits take up a lot of unnecessary space so a folder could help, so you can carry both at the same time

>>32793983
So more espada memes in the future?

>>32795335
New and improved memes

Any european knife online shops? I wanted to buy an american knife and holy shit these are overpriced in shops I usually use.
I mean they get like +50% to the price, easily

>>32795741
Aren't most European countries to cucked to have actual knives?

>>32795783
Depends on the country
but yes, extremely cucked, even my knife liberal european country does not legally allow carry and importing of spring opening knives

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Someone was complaining in the last thread about opinels being hard to open, with a little work they will be as loose as you like. Gif related.

>>32793983
You've got to be shitting me. To replace the aus 8 one you fucked up cutting down a tree with ? Or are you a different guy.

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>>32793956
Been so long since I've seen him. Thought he died.

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Everyone always asks about knife care. Soap and water after using carbon steel on anything acidic

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Dry with paper towel

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Apply oil of choice, I use olive oil on this.

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Evenly coat blade and wipe off excess until you get a thin coat

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And then you're done. Ready to wait till next use.

>>32796553
Or
>Frog lube
>Be done

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/ktg/ prison edition. Forgot it in my lunch bag. Found it in a spot that it shouldn't been and didn't want to risk an inmate getting a hold of it so I occasionally bring them home to dispose of. If found on an inmate then it's a whole different ball game.

>>32796563
As long as you can eat it, sure. I use olive oil on that one so I can use it for food. It's my steak knife.

>>32796618

>found it in a spot it shouldn't been

Where should it have been?

>>32796665
In the trash or evidence locker already. Instead it was where we grab our equipment ready to poke us too.

>>32796662
Frog lube is 100% edible
Is a lubricant
Soaks into the metal to help prevent rust
And tastes / smells like mint

>>32796704
When I run out of olive oil, I'll try it.

>>32796704
Sounds like a liquid pantina. Would you recommend the spray or the tub?

>>32779930
does anyone else with a Fairbairn sykes have problems with it rusting? I keep mine clean and oiled so I don't know why it rusts

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anyone have any experience with a higonokami?
How good they are, where to buy, etc

>>32797044
They're okay.

The handle is kinda uncomfortable for more than light use since the thin metal can dig into your hands.

>>32797044
Handle is uncomfortable and it has a habit of trying to close if you don't keep your thumb on the metal stud. Doesn't matter if you're pushing down on an object or not in my experience. You can buy them dirt cheap on eBay. Bought mine from a vendor based in Japan.

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>>32797044

I just bought two of them. One is about 1/4 inch shorter than the other and it seems like the folded handle was slightly wider on one. Pretty awkward knives. I'd go for the smaller version than the 3.5 because you can't really get any kind of grip on it and a smaller blade would feel easier to use.

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>>32781435
i agree
xl voyager edc here

>>32795741
Lamnia (finnish)
Heinnies
coutellerie-tourangelle (frog)


>>32795783
Europe =/= UK

there's plenty.

>>32794064
Yeah, thanks. Didn't realize that until long after I posted that...

>>32796851
>>32796726

they have a liquid and a paste, paste is nice for rubbing on steel liners , but i use the liquid because it doubles as a wicked lubricant ( a bit thick but its nice for ikbs )

>>32796726
>>32796851
it also helps remove rust etc pretty nice tbqh

>>32797165
I wish somebody would add a lock to a Higo but otherwise leave it alone instead of adding G10 etc.

>>32779930
Good bunk knife.

>>32796618
>CO
Stories and prison-style knife instructions, please.

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>>32779930
Was thinking of getting Fallkniven before I deploy.

Worth it?

>>32799416
They're very good quality knives. Great for utility tasks (which is the majority of what you'll be doing with it, let's be honest), but it will also be perfectly adequate for defending yourself. The sheath in your picture is a bit iffy, though. The nylon on mine ripped when I was out bushcrafting and took a spill down a slope. If you get one, get a custom kydex sheath. Great knife, though.

>>32796704
I also use frog lube (liquid in my case). I doubt it soaks into the metal as it's supposed to mostly be coconut oil but whatever else they put in it is magic. It leaves this wonderful layer on the metal that doesn't attract lint or dirt. Also works great for shaving. I tried shaving with nothing but frog lube which kind of hurt but I didn't cut myself and got a really close shave to boot. Works wonderfully when I use it as a preshave oil and lather shaving cream on top of it. My glocks love it.

>>32797380
Thanks, the frog site looks pretty good.

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>>32796433
'Tis I. I can't fucking believe it. I was expecting them to either just send it back still bent up or offer to replace the blade for a bunch of money. I asked the guy specifically if it would still have the AUS8 steel and he told me they just went ahead and replaced it with the new model. They went about and beyond my expectations. New memes are on the horizon, my friend.

>>32780831
Just a pro-tip. "9Cr13MoV" is absolutely meaningless. It could be literally any alloy and they can sell it as that because it's not a standardized one with tolerances.

>>32781462
This, it's a shame too because this is exactly the kind of knife I want but I'm not paying a full Ben for it.

What are some good bowie-esque knives that arent chinkshit worthless?

Was looking on Kult and Boker, but all of them are 420a/b or mystery meat steel from india

would a ~$30 bowie made of generic "stainless steel" or "420" be worthless?

>>32800952
what you want isnt a bowie knife. bowie knives are very thin, and originally designed for slicing or fighting. "bowie knives" today are seen as big ol hunting rambo knives that arent worth much in anything

>>32800684

Now do the same thing and watch it fail again.

>>32801016
what do i want then

>>32801110
Not even gonna try that stupid shit again.

>>32801701
fail

ok i suck at sharpening, does anyone know of a machine or have experience using something like a belt sander to sharpen? any automatic sharpeners i could use?

>>32801706
also can someone give me a quick rundown on what steels are easy vs hard to sharpen? is stainless 440 easy or hard? maybe my steel is too hard to sharpen

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>>32801443
pic related

>>32801706
>>32801721
I'd avoid powered machines if you don't know how to sharpen. It'd be very easy to accidentally ruin your knife by overheating it or removing too much metal.

"Stainless 440" means you probably have a no-name garbage Pakistan or China knife that isn't very good to begin with, though now you have a knife you can safely ruin when practicing sharpening in case you fuck up.

There are basically two options:freehand (stones, strops, etc.) and guided systems (Sharpmaker, Edge Pro, etc.).

Freehanding is learning a skill, which will take a lot of time and practice. However, once you get good, sharpening takes little time at all and you can sharpen pretty much any cutting implement with nearly anything abrasive enough to cut whatever you're sharpening.

Guided systems are meant to take the human factor out of it and be easy to learn for most people. This will mean it'll be easier and faster in the short term and depending on the system, you can be more precise than even the best hand sharpeners out there. However, you'll have less transferable skills (meaning you won't be as good without the system) and it won't be as fast as a competent hand sharpener.

There's also powered options like belt sanders and grinders, but they're a bad idea if you don't know what you're doing, as already mentioned.

So basically it comes down to whether you want to learn a skill that'll be more worthwhile in the long term or a system that'll get the job done without as much hassle in the short term.

>>32800684

Knife looks cool, but my god you look autistic.

>>32801836
>you look autistic
Are you new? That's the whole point of Espada posting.

>>32801832
im using freehanded stones i guess. i have 2 japanese water stones, a eze lap diamond stone, and an arkansas stone and every single one i try sharpneing with leaves me with a duller knife than i started with. sometimes i will get a tiny bit of bite on the edge but i always fucking lose it when sharpening again. i dont know how long to sharpen or how hard to push, maybe i dont push hard enough? i was trying to let gravity and the knife do most of the work, maybe it takes more muscle?

>>32801903
i watched youtube videos on sharpening and i tried to copy that shit, these guys get a razor sharp knife in like 20 strokes on a japanese stone, i sit there doing it for like 10 minutes and cant even cut paper on the entire blade

>>32801706
the answer is git gud. to put a serviceable edge on a knife you just need a lansky kit or a set of Arkansas stones: washita-black hard arkansas if you can manage it.

dans whetstone company will do you right. always use water or mineral oil on a stone and keep it as such. keep a constant angle and make every pass as if you are trying to cut a sliver off the top of the stone. 20-30 passes per side depending on how hard the steel is.

>>32801721
most likely you've got garbage knives anything that isn't boutique or a buck/kershaw/crkt/spiderco/benchmade is most likely crap steel that won't take a real edge for longer than a hot second.

>>32801957
ive got a chinese made shitty s&w but im also trying on a victorinox swiss army knife. i have ruined the blade on my spyderco trying to sharpen it so i dont want to try sharpening any of my good knives again until i figure this shit out

>>32799416
>>32799460
They're by far the most popular knife to privately buy in the Swedish military and for good reason. They are well made and very durable. Their different knives fill up different niches. I use an F1 though, seeing as how I usually have a hatchet with me when I'm in the woods with the military.

>>32801903
Look up Steel Drake's videos. He's the resident sharpening guru.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWU_qTp3DLM

>>32801706

Before you give up on freehanding try this: Get some cheap knives, a Norton India IB8 combination coarse/fine oilstone, and watch this video and practice what it shows until you can reliably reproduce the results shown:

https://youtu.be/cWU_qTp3DLM

If you really cannot get the hang of that then listen to >>32801832

>>32801721

It depends on what you mean by hard to sharpen. If you mean in terms of grindability, I.E. taking more time but no more skill, then basically the more wear resistance the steel has the longer it will take to sharpen.

If you mean in terms of SKILL then I would say the hardest steels to sharpen are relatively soft (54-58 HRC) stainless steels like AUS-8, VG-10, 154CM, 440C, when they are run at low hardness. Those types of steels at low hardness have a tendency of forming a large, floppy burr that is difficult to remove and can be very frustrating to novice sharpeners.

>>32801918

That's because they are sharpening a knife that had already been re-profiled to the angle they are using, the knives are much less dull when they are starting to sharpen, and they have much better muscle memory and thus there is much less variation in the angle they hold.

A beginner sharpener learning to freehand should be using a stone in the ~325 grit range like an India F or a DMT C which cuts fast enough to cut in a new edge bevel in a reasonable time frame.

>>32799393
Horrible at story telling.

Pretty recently I locked up an inmate for three shanks. Initially I found a security bit in his coffee cup, think a T20. Questioned him and he stated he found it. Go back to search and I noticed the cell light was loose. T20 fit.

I asked him what was hidden and he simply told me whatever was up there belonged to him. Opened it up and pulled out 3 shanks. One was pretty sturdy.

Asked him what's the deal and he told me in honesty that the nice one was his. The rest he found in his cell and kept for insurance.

>>32802670
As for weapon making in prison. Most of the icepicks come from fridge racks or AC unit gratings. Knife style shanks normally come from windows. The better shanks come from an inmate breaking down an old footlocker with another footlocker. Best one I seen had to have come from HVAC since it was so thick. They had a clip point and serrations on the back. Still needed work since it was about 1/4 thick. Also tanto point is king here.

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>>32801903
according to my experience, youre doing one of 2 things

>youre not hitting the edge precisely
or
>the stone you are using is too fine

youd be surprised how fuckin wrong you are at your edge. you may be hitting the edge, but the very end of it may be getting missed, which is causing your cutting edge to not get any better
and in the other case
this is another insanely common problem i see a lot. people just think they can hustle on down to sharp knife city (east of flavor town) using nothing but a medium arkansas stone. the thing people miss is that when a knife is dull, you need a coarse stone to match it, you cant just polish it over and over until the bad ol knicks or dull marks go away. you cant start off at 600 or 700 grit is what im saying. i recommend you get your ass a nice little pocket norton stone (or bench stone for people with arthritis or other invalids) at about 200 - 300 grit, and then work your way up

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Just got this baby

>>32802903
Where did you buy it at?

Anon who bought the mudbug, how fast did it sell out when you ordered?

>>32802919
I bought it at a local knife shop. They had one left

>>32801836
That's the point.

>>32797242
You should so the COD pistol and knife gripping meme and take a picture with your third hand

>>32801983
There's something called an angle guide, kinds that clip onto your knife and others that are just ramps. When I was new I made a wedge that looked like a doorstop. Didn't use it too much, but it sounds like that's where your problem is. Also Idk if anyone here has said it yet, but do the sharpy trick as well.

Draw along the edge with your sharpy, on the full width of the bevel so you can see what metal is getting removed .
If the sharp only goes away further back away from the apex, your angle is too shallow, or low.
If only the apex is moved, your angle is high, though, it's still hitting the apex, so you can still make it sharp like this.
Best to learn to match the bevel entirely though

>>32800684
Nice

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>>32791891
Yep. Now you need to complete the collection

>>32803974
Not gonna lie I like the one second from the top. It's the least shit looking.

does everybody hate serrated blades?

>>32805710
Eh I can see where they might come in handy.

>>32805710

I hate serrated blades, they are hard to sharpen and they look ugly imo.

Are Chris Reeve knives worth it? Some of his fixed blade knives look quite nice.

>>32806704
>>32806704
they're overinflated, you're paying at least 50% more than you should for what it is

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ok boys, i know i can come to you all for expert advice

im getting a 550 griptillian with the finger hole and i cant decide between plain edge or serrated. ive been going plain edge forever now. how useful are serrations really?

>>32807858
>im getting a 550 griptillian with the finger hole
why

>how useful are serrations really?
Depends on what you're cutting. They're not as versatile as a plain edge, but excel at cutting things that would dull a plain edge quickly. The difficulty in sharpening them is overrated. There's a learning curve, but it's not that hard.

>>32807858
>getting a grip with a spydiehole
Just get a regular grip or a spyderco

>>32808317
>>32808425
unzip this dick fuckboys, its what i want. if i wanted a big log of shit with a thumbtack stuck to the end of it, thats what i want. i just want to know if i want that thumbtack to have serrations or not.

what i mean to ask, is that will the serrated edge REALLY effect my plain edge use with it? how much will my regular plain edge use be affected?

>>32808516
i also dig the flatter blade geometry on the sheepsfoot design btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJa2kwoZ2a4

>>32808516
>what i mean to ask, is that will the serrated edge REALLY effect my plain edge use with it? how much will my regular plain edge use be affected?
What does that even mean? You can use a serrated edge and you can use a plain edge.

>>32808532
>also dig the flatter blade geometry on the sheepsfoot design btw
But the sheepsfoot is hollow ground and it's ground the same height as the other ones.

>>32801832

>However, you'll have less transferable skills (meaning you won't be as good without the system)

Literally what the fuck are you even talking about?

>and it won't be as fast as a competent hand sharpener

You'll also be setting random and oftentimes mismatched bevel angels that will require someone with a guided system time to fix for you.

Precision beats guesswork every time.

>>32805710

If you're going to get a serrated blade, get full serrations. Combo edges are a terrible compromise.

>>32807858
Dont listen to these fags, get the grip you want with the hole, but dont get serrations, only plainedge almost always because for serrations to actually be beneficial you need to be cutting alot of rope, plainedge will always be useful however

>>32781237
>>32781184
>>32781175
>>32781168
>>32781136
>>32781130

Every God damn thread I have to scroll past the same fucking shit.

>>32794081
That Jettison is so Kawaii, I gave one to my GF as a purse knife for cutting tags or coupons or w/e. Idk if she ever uses it, it was just a bit too small for my hands. I almost kept it but the lack of a clip was just something I couldn't get used to.

>>32806704
Overpriced. Sure they're quality but you could cut about half the price off and it'd still be higher than it should be. General rule of thumb for all of his knives. The fixed blades get a particularly bad rep even amongst CRK fans.

>>32805710
They have a very niche use. If you're going to buy a serrated knife, don't get a folder and get the full serrated edge, combo edges just don't work.

What is your all time personal favorite blade steel?

D2 for me

>>32812268
I'm pretty happy with CTS-XHP. I find my chaparral extremely easy to keep sharp.

>>32803974
lmao i plan to edc it whats your expirence with it, btw isnt that the limited edition obake?

>>32812790

I had one. Only carried it for two days before I realized they make for retarded edc knives, that my izula 1 was better had better mounting options too.

>>32812268
I don't have many different steels, but I'm currently really happy with my s35VN ZT0450. My grail steel is M390/204p/20CV

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I want to get one of those Blue spyderco paramilitary 2s so bad but those dickheads at (((bentobox))) want $200, that is nearly MSRP. Does spyderco usually re-release runs of knives with different scales over time?

>>32816023
They have sprint runs so you might see a particular color paired up with a steel. Kind of sucks since they have such a large variety of colors they use, but I guess it cuts down on counterfeiting if the Chinese don't know what colors they plan to use next.

What I don't understand about the selling knives market is why people assume others will buy their common knives for a little less than store price just because it's unused. If it's a limited run is one thing, but I may see like a standard paramilitary 2 that's been unused so the seller may charge $10 less. Hell seen some with broken scales and scratched up blades and still charge a premium.

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What’s the absolute top 10 (or 5, or 3, or 1) BEST grip material for a knife?

THIS IS INCLUDING MODERN SYNTHETICS, like rubber or Neoprene.

>>32817445
*Assuming non-folding blades

>>32817411

It is because they want to get their money back and the knives even fucked up still have value for their parts. Plus depending on the brand some companies will repair the knives for very little or free.

I guarantee you if spyderco and benchmade had no "minimum advertised price" they forced their sellers to use prices would plummet pretty rapidly on all their knives as people competed. But the minimum pricing forces their knives to hover around a certain level, which is why the Paramilitary 2 starts off at a ridiculous $220+ on spydercos website.

>>32813642
Why exactly whats the problem with it?

>>32816023

The m390 pm2 is a bentobox exclusive and the last run was years ago. If you want one just get it because there's only one pm2 sprint run announced for this year so far.

Compared to other pm2 exclusives and sprints that are now exclusively secondary market, that price is almost sort of reasonable.

>>32812268

I don't really have an outstanding favorite, but I like collecting a little bit of everything. I've got a hardon for spyderco bringing maxamet into their lineup though. Might make up for the fact that I don't want to pay for a second hand pm2 in m4.

>>32779930
Requesting measurements and dimensions for Kampfmesser 42. I'd like to make a reproduction.

>>32781351
do these double as opera glasses?

>>32818242
l O l

>>32818223
Couldn't find anything but found a site that sells reproductions. http://www.militaryshop.biz/messer-dolche/kampfmesser/wh-kampfmesser-m42-infanterie.htm

>>32817445
G10 by far. Maybe Carbon Fiber if you want something sturdier and can sacrifice grippiness.

>>32816023
It's the steel that matters. That's why it's $200. M390 is expensive. It's also an exclusive to that site, which is why it's a little more than it would be on others.

>>32819049
Reasons?

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I'm new to knives, but I bought this for $15 needing something sharp and handy at a flea market.

Can't find any info despite knowing it's a browning "pheasants forever" model 569, nothing comes up.

Is it trash?

>>32818395
Thank you for assisting.

>>32817445
Bump for fixed blades.

>>32819049
>G10 by far

Why, that is for folders not fixed. Can't fixed use a wider variety of better materials?

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new knife new gun.

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So I don't have a Benchmade yet and apparently made an impulse order last night.

Ritter RSK MK3, any love for them around here?

>>32817445
It depends on what qualities you're looking for in a handle.

Handle shape>handle material though.

>>32819587
For $15 it's okay, though the majority of the time, gun company branded knives are mediocre Chinese-made knives.

The only Browning knife I own and will probably ever own is a Browning Ice Storm, which is a discontinued model that was made for them by Mcusta.

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It arrives tomorrow!!!

>>32820686
How much 4dMak?

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Hand forget from the land of spurdo, really don't like that tacticool shit.

>>32821222
paid 250.a nice little beauty from east germany.kind of sad i bought it though.just found out how stupid expensive magazines are.

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ok lads, time for your expert advice again


benchmade 550 (plain edge, thanks /k/nife general)
or
spyderco paramilitary 2

which one do i want more? which one is the better knife? fight for it

>>32821640

If you're getting a grip, get a ritter while they're still available at knifeworks.

Not sure I could recommend the base s30v pm2 over a m390 ritter grip, but the pm2 is something everyone who's into knives has to at least try at some point. If I could go back in time and swap a bunch of other blade purchases with pm2 sprints I'd do it in a heartbeat.

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>>32821835

>>32821640
I second this guy's suggestion >>32821737 if you're going to get a Griptilian. Original model Griptilians are overpriced for what you're getting. The Ritters are upgraded in steel and grind, so at the very least you can sort of justify their price.

They're also discontinued, so if you get one, you'll get close the amount you paid for it or more once stock dries up.

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>>32821640

That's up to you to decide. If you can handle them both, would be great.

The Grip is a great knife
The PM2 is a great knife.

i almost love them both equally.
Regardless of steel, id probably go PM2.

>>32822246

It is pretty shit, you right.

>>32822394
i cant stop using them for the shits n giggles
help

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i appreciate the responses, but i think there was an error in communication on my part

is this knife better
http://www.knifeworks.com/spydercopara-military2cpm-s30vg-10handleblackplainedge.aspx#.WI7ThNIrJdg

or is this knife better
http://www.knifeworks.com/benchmadeg10griptilian550-1345incpm-20cvstainlessplainedge.aspx#.WI7n7NIrJdh

>>32822516

Excuse me for your error in comms

So, The Standard.
The pm2 has "better" steel(s30v vs 154cm), "better" handle material(G10 vs Noryl GTX).

Both knives have great handle Ergo's. So in the end they both "better"
Both have great locking mechanisms
Hope this helps.

(also modified benchmades are awesome over the standard.)

>>32822516
Dude, it really is on you
The grip carries better and has better steel
the para is a better slicer and is more ergonomic

Almost the same function its really up to you cant go wrong with either

>>32822516
Out of those 2, I'd go with the upgraded 20CV Grip over the stock PM2, but I've heard Benchmade's quality control is lacking recently. Don't know if they heat treat it to get max performance out of 20CV.

>>32822630
Na dude look at the link again, hes talking about the 20cv grip with g10 handles

kabar dozier vs cold steel mini recon. is tri-ad and their new cts xhp worth almost 4x the price of the dozier which is aus8 and a lockback?

>>32822901
Anything is better than AUS-8. XHP is miles better and if you're going to seriously wail on the knife then triad all the way.

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Got this bad boy coming my way in the mail

>>32820715
A fixed grip? Didn't know that existed

Looking at getting a PM2, is the standard s30v satin blade and black G10 good?

>>32823635
Yes

Good morning from NC /k/, I was the guy who the other day needed a new knife for farm work/edc.
Took anon's advice, ended up getting something I am very pleased with. Would post a pic but currently am in the middle of something.

All the same, thanks guys. This is one of the few boards that (usually) offers quality advice.

>>32823653
Glad it worked out for you and looking forward to seeing pics.

>>32823653
Good deal. Share it when you get a chance in the next thread.

>>32823653
whatd you get

>>32822901
>memebar
why not get a less expensive CS knife instead of paying 80 shillings for the mini version of a recon, which doesnt even have a wave opener