Hudson 9

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>>32778007
>Trigger safeties being effective in the first place
>Trigger safeties ever stopping NDs that wouldn't have happened anyway
>NDs with any weapon regardless of safeties or lack thereof

WEAK B8 OP ! ! ! !!!

SAGE & FUCK OFF D:<

>>32778007
Whoa whoa whoa, what the fuck is that?!

Did someone literally take a 1911, a Glock and a Sig and jam them all in the same mom?!?

>>32778059
It's a striker fired steel framed gun with a trigger about the same weight and crispness of a 1911. Unlike a normal striker fired gun, pulling the trigger doesn't draw the striker the rest of the way, so it's single action rather than double action. It's basically the opposite of a sig because they put the slide spring fully in front of the trigger guard to lower the bore axis.

>>32778059
Where have you been since shot show started, let alone weeks/months before?

It's a Hudson H9 and yes a new American startup made what is essentially a striker fired 1911. Preliminary reports are that it's outstanding. Waiting on them to get in the wild for extensive T&E.

MSRP $1100ish

People convinced they will be much more expensive due to lack of mass manufacturing capabilities.

Others convinced they have manufacturing partners that can scale with demand to keep the price at MSRP or below.

>>32778094
Most striker fired guns are single action only. Glock is one of the few that isn't

Sig is Sao, Springfield's XD, m&p shield, Walther PPS ppq etc.

More are single action than the style Glock uses.

>>32778160
>Carry 1911 cocked and locked with safety disengaged for years
>Never ND
Only sloppy casual faggots need safeties. In which case I hope they ND right into their incompetent skulls.

>>32778007

That is one ugly gun

>>32778094
>>32778104
You're both shills for a gun you've never even seen in person. This total bullshit about a 1911 trigger is just that. You fucking noguns dipshits probably haven't even shot a 1911. Simply looking and the trigger one can tell it's not going to be anything like a 1911. This is a total POS that is utterly doomed out of the gate. Also you're both faggots.

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>>32778186
Damn bro you're so cool

What an operator. You're totally perfect I bet you NEVER make mistakes.

>>32778094
Pretty neat. I had no idea it existed.
>>32778104
Eh, I don't keep up with that kind of stuff. Plus ShotShow is mostly companies revealing their new AR15 and pistol grips. That's a pretty cool pistol though. Interesting concept

>>32778007
Is there really no safety on the gun?

>>32778104
Fair enough, but it's more about the trigger weight and travel distance than whether or not it's .5-DAO or SAO.

>>32778186
Did you tape down the grip safety? Would you feel comfortable doing so?

I don't understand the irrational hatred/fear of grip safeties. If it's well desgined, it will be disengaged every time. I seriously doubt anyone has lost their life or been seriously injured because they couldn't grip the gun well enough to disengage the grip safety.

>>32778209
Imagine how retarded it would look with a flashlight.

>>32778231
There's a trigger safety. So you cant pull the trigger unless you pull the trigger :^)

>>32778225

>travis "magdump an AR into a steel plate from 7 yards away" haley

>>32778231
It has a trigger saftey, and you can add a manual one if you wish

>people didnt that didn't even read the specs that clearly state you can install a manual safety on either or both sides of the firearm if you so choose

>>32778243

Nothing wrong with trigger safeties

>>32778252
Trigger safeties are just drop safeties.

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>>32778007
Wow this really does trigger BOTH 1911 and Glock fags. How do I donate to their company?

>>32778257
>read
shit, I didn't even watch 10 minutes of the video

>>32778280
>How do I donate to their company?

Ask Ian and Karl.

>>32778280
Buy their gun! It really is entertaining.

>>32778280
You buy one

>>32778243
There is also a second, internal drop safety.

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>>32778323

>>32778323
He said "donate", not "get paid by"
Is there a point in supporting Ian on patreon when he's already getting paid by gun companies to say nice things about their products?

>>32778186
Because everyone has the same routine every day, doesn't move in ways that might catch a part of their gun, and work a 9 to 5 cubicle job.

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>>32778350
>Is there a point in supporting Ian on patreon when he's already getting paid by gun companies to say nice things about their products?


>Ian shits on just about everything they saw at shot show to the salesmans faces
>praises one interesting design

>Ian is a shill goise!

H9 butthurt is delicious and I will be buying one just to start shitpost threads on /k/ shitting on Glocks and 1911s as my Glocks and 1911s sit on the shelf

>>32778421
You're such a good goy

Don't find I odd at all that everything else is shit besides the Hudson

He barely even had hype for the maxim compared to this. And Karl is worse.

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>>32778233
>Imagine how retarded it would look with a flashlight.

I imagined...

>>32778449
>Don't find I odd at all that everything else is shit besides the Hudson

No, because everything else was shit.

>He barely even had hype for the maxim compared to this.

Because the Maxim is a fucking unimpressive meme

>>32778466
Lmao brainwashed little fag fanboy

>>32778160
sauce

>>32778479
Mayli facial abuse

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>>32778451

Is there a reason why this is being shilled for on the daily?

>>32778160
All of these retards in this thread.

It comes with a fucking frame mounted 1911 style thumb safety you can chose to install or remove. So much autism

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>>32778477
>lets take the best portions of a variety of guns and make a cool design incorporating them.

>fucking garbage being shilled over stupid retard fanboys


>lets make a retarded, inefficient half slide boberg-esque handgun with a shitty waffle iron suppressor hanging off the front

>wow, truly revolutionary
>this deserves the praise of grubby desert gun goblins instead of that meme gun that is not depending on silly 80s commercials and Trump Jr to sell their piece of shit

>>32778551
>Hearing safe with all ammo
>Still probably weighs less than the Hudson

Hello shill fanboy

>>32778514
Because it's a novel concept and something new in the sea of shitty generic striker-fired handguns and AR-15s.

How can a small company like Hudson be able to afford shills? Not everyone who is interested in the gun is a fucking shill you mongoloid.

>>32778323
Jesus Christ, are Karl and Ian supposed to dislike everything? I swear that everyone on /k/ thinks people are shills when they like a product and promote it. It's not like it's a hipoint that they are trying to sell as cool, which is basically all they ever said.

>>32778451
Maybe they can have lasermax make some guide rod lasers for their gun. Not sure if a practical light could fit in there.
Looks unwieldy as fuck with anything below the recoil spring, no way people will CC it with a light/laser.

>>32778344
my sides senpai, good lord

>>32778222
and you're somehow of a superior opinion because you're hating on a gun that you've never seen in person? you're just like the shills.

>>32778449
I think they did that big expose on the Hudson because InRange is small time and the Hudson people were willing to give them the time. The Maxim people were busy and didn't seem that interested in talking to them, the Troy people were interested in talking about how shitty Colt is, and the Hudson people wanted to talk about their product and get the exposure with a channel that is really popular with intelligent gun enthusiasts. I don't think it had anything to do with money, and Ian and Karl knew the Hudson people were throwing them a bone and the Hudson people were getting nice exposure with the right people out of it.

Like it or not, this is how business works and they did a good job with it. Be an asscock all you want, but I really enjoyed the content.

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You can clearly see a trigger safety you retarded nigger.

The P320 doesn't have one by default and it just won the military contract.

Assuming Hudson follows through we're looking at a fantastic design.

>>32778564
>Hearing safe with all ammo

So the maxim stops it's ammunition from breaking the sound barrier now?

>Still probably weighs less than the Hudson

>the unreliable polymeme with a trash suppressor and horribad trigger is probably lighter than that full sized steel frame handgun


>H9 is 34 oz
>memesum is 37 oz for the short model

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>>32778451
What handgun looks "good" with a light?

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As long as we're talking about firearms showed at shot show, can we talk about this...?
Do I have autism /k/?
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>>32778616
I have a problem with them shilling it afterwards

>>32778636
>breaking the sound barrier means it's not hearing safe

Even if it did it could have a ported barrel or anything to bleed velocity retard.

>Shilling this hard

>>32778625
>Trigger """"""safety""""""

Fuck off with this shitty fucking meme all it is is a drop safety

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>>32778663
>breaking the sound barrier means it's not hearing safe

There is a reason people make subsonic loads


>Even if it did it could have a ported barrel or anything to bleed velocity retard.

>making the gun slow down your ammo when you should just be shooting ammo meant to be suppressed
>porting a suppressed firearm

>>32778689
Yes because it's quieter.

Doesn't mean supersonic is necessarily not hearing safe.

You're fucking stupid.

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>>32778007
I don't believe in having more than one safety for a handgun, so I'm perfectly fine with removing the grip-safety on a 1911.

I could deal with no manual safety as well, but it's nice to have at least one.

That said, I would take hammer fired over striker-fired any day (personal preference), and I just don't think there's anything amazing about the 1911 grip.

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>>32778699
>supersonic cracks two feet from your face are hearing safe

>>32778663
Kind of like saying they shilled the Keltec RDB when they talked about how it's not that expensive and talked about how much they loved it.

>>32778708
Go look up the noise levels and get back to me because it actually is sans constant exposure (aka not fucking impulse noises as gunshots are)

You're literally pulling incorrect shit out of your ass.

>>32778616
What everyone also seems to forget is that the owners are fans and took inspiration from Ian's channel
So of course they would want an interview from Ian

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>>32778732
>it actually is sans constant exposure (aka not fucking impulse noises as gunshots are)

Short term exposure to dangerous dB levels can also cause hearing loss/tinnitus

That aside, you previously stated the gun was hearing safe but now it is safe as long as you do not repeatedly fire it.


> But sounds can be harmful when they are too loud, even for a brief time, or when they are both loud and long-lasting
>NIHL can be immediate or it can take a long time to be noticeable. It can be temporary or permanent, and it can affect one ear or both ears.
>NIHL can be caused by a one-time exposure to an intense “impulse” sound, such as an explosion, or by continuous exposure to loud sounds over an extended period of time, such as noise generated in a woodworking shop.

>Recreational activities that can put you at risk for NIHL include target shooting and hunting

https://www.nidcd.nih.gov/health/noise-induced-hearing-loss

Can you make an attempt to make one post in which you have any idea what in the fuck you are talking about?

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>>32778641
It's hard to find aesthetic combos of guns and lights.

>>32778186
How do you carry cocked and locked with the safety disengaged?

>>32778783
>Doesn't even know what constant exposure means

Swallow a bullet next time you stupid weeb


OSHA permits 8 hours a day of exposure to CONSTANT noise at 90 db with the duration HALVED for every 5 DB over 90 db, 140 DB is the cutoff where no exposure is hearing safe.

Guns frequently register 175 or even more for rifles.

If you consider a suppressed .223 (yes fucking .223) out of a decent suppressor can go down to the low 130 range then imagine what 9mm can.

If a gunshot is thought to last 5ms and you're shooting a gun that generates 130db of noise per shot then you can fire 22,000 gun shots a day.

Fucking kill yourself stupid fucker.

>>32778007
REMINDER TO THE TARDS, YOU CAN ADD A SAFETY IF YOU WANT

>>32778451
>pick the ugliest light you can
>HURRRR LOOK AT THIS

>>32778840
Maybe of you keep calling him stupid you'll win the argument. Keep it up, I believe in you.

>>32778838
Kydex holster probably

>>32778880
I already won I don't care about arrogant and ignorant weebs

He probably shoots rifles with impact pros and that's only 25-30 db reduction.

>>32778226
It doesn't.

There's one working prototype of it and it debuted at SHOT less than a week ago.

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>>32778840
>OSHA permits

I don't give a flying fuck what cuckSHA permits


>If you consider a suppressed .223 (yes fucking .223) out of a decent suppressor can go down to the low 130 range

With with subsonic ammunition

>If a gunshot is thought to last 5ms and you're shooting a gun that generates 130db of noise per shot then you can fire 22,000 gun shots a day.

Again, you are not using actual data from supersonic ammunition shot through the maxim and are conflating your previous argument with proper suppressors and subsonic ammunition coupled with cuckSHA wageslave safety standards.


You go ahead and buy the memegun and be incapable of hearing your grandchildren speak to you because you fell for the meme.

>>32778007

Zoom in on the pic and realize your faggotry.

>>32778233
>but it's more about the trigger weight and travel distance
Agreed.

They're advertising 5.5lb and "less than a quarter inch of takeup". IE, nothing at all even remotely similar to even a milspec 1911, much less an $1100 1911.

>>32778831
>Owning a pig disgusting polymer
>Buying a polymer CZ

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>>32778895
I double up with either plastic/foam earbuds and Peltors for your information deafy

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>>32778901
>Subsonic .223
>Subsonic fucking .223

No you dumbfuck regular .223 fmj

Go watch MACs video on 5.56 rifle suppressors I'm sure it's more your speed little kid

You literally just proved you're no guns by the way fucking retard

>>32778840
Most unsuppressed centerfire rifle shots are in the 160-165 db range.

The single quietest suppressed 9mm on record is still 121dB at the shooter's ear, and that's an integrally suppressed single shot rifle with a 26" barrel.

Some integrally suppressed .22's have been recorded as low as 94dB though. So they do get really fucking quiet.

>>32778946
I bet you think the decibel reduction stacks don't you?

>>32778949
>>Subsonic .223
>>Subsonic fucking .223

http://beckammunition.com/.223-Rem/223-rem-subsonic-52gr-jhp-tnt.html

>>32778982
Wow can you guess what subsonic .223 is?

No one doing tests is using subsonic .223 dumb fuck it's fucking worthless. Like I said. Go watch MACs video it's easy for you to comprehend.

>>32778965
No, I just don't like being caught unawares with my cans off and hearing ringing because I forgot to put them back on my head like a dingus

>>32778007
Jesus, OP has his extra chromosome shoved so far up his ass it's talking for him. I want to punch your downs in the face and see if head trauma can make you smarter.

>>32779014
By your own logic your peltors and foam ears would be similar to using a suppressor and thus unsafe.

If your peltors gave 30 DB reduction and earplugs gave 30 it's not 60 DB reduction, rule of thumb is it's 5 on top extra for doubling up I believe so 35 DB reduction

Suppressors get close to that or maybe even exceed it in some cases I'm not for sure one hundred percent.

So you better stop shooting guns altogether.

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>>32779051
>Suppressors get close to that or maybe even exceed it in some cases I'm not for sure one hundred percent.
>So you better stop shooting guns altogether.

Or I could just keep shooting with hearing protection and not listen to people on 4chan whose arguments shift every post because their memegun is trash
>140 DB is the cutoff where no exposure is hearing safe.

>>32778059
Yea it's what would happen if John Thompson made a porno with John Moses Browning, Gaston Glock and Theodore Bergmann and it was narrated by Hickock45.

BRB, cumming.

>>32779085
I'm going by OSHA standards you think you know more?

This thread has made it far too evident that you don't.

If the effective noise to your ears is the same as with a suppressor why do you think you're hearing safe but suppressors aren't?

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>>32779085
Goodbye hearing

>>32779103
>MAC
kys

>>32779103
>Picking out the shit ones

Also they're right next to the muzzle. DB at the ear is even less and you can handle gun shots at 135 db.

140 DB is the threshold.

Like I said. If you consider 135 not safe then you're not hearing safe

>>32778265
Then what safety does a glock have?

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>>32779102
>If the effective noise to your ears is the same as with a suppressor

Is an assumption you are making

>>32779103
only gave roughly a 20 dB reduction which is not hearing safe and is 10 dB louder than cans alone

>>32779116
Was told to watch the video but it's shit evidence

>>32779124
>Picking out the shit ones

>go use MAC
>not THAT can!


>Like I said. If you consider 135 not safe then you're not hearing safe

>now cans put us at 135 instead of 125/130
>now 135 is unsafe instead of 140

>>32779173
Retard you can see in the video the suppressor is reducing 30~ DB of noise if wearing earpro that provides ~30db of noise protection is safe then why isn't that?


I said that .223 cans are in the low 130s

They are.

9mm cans can get even lower.

Again if 130-135 DB is not hearing safe then why are you still shooting guns?

>>32778650
I don't know, do you find that Pontiac Aztec of a gun interesting?

Then probably, yea.

>>32779189
>I said that .223 cans are in the low 130s

>147
>low 130s


>9mm cans can get even lower.
>still no evidence the maxim can

>Again if 130-135 DB is not hearing safe then why are you still shooting guns?

No intention on living long enough for it to be a major issue

>>32779215
It's not my fault if you buy shitty suppressors

So answer the question. is 135 hearing safe or not?

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>>32779228
lmao

>>32779234
no

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>>32779246
K enjoy your damaged hearing with your earpro then

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>>32778575
>shits on every single thing they come across shot show
>literally full autism tier, i.e karl `tisming at the retro ar muzzle device
>batters manufacturers with question and detail
>praises the hell out of a no name start up company gun
>only question about the functionality of the gun other than if all ammo cycles
It's a cool gun but its not cool enough to have a 1100 dollar price tag

>>32779254
Ok?

Enjoy the maxim being a shitty memegun that cannot make any ammo hearing safe

>>32779280
>$1100 pricetag
>MSRP

It will be like $900

>>32779280

The did the same thing with SMG. I wonder if they were investors in that company.

>>32779294
It can you're just wrong on what is "hearing safe"

>>32779319
Yea, how dare those media guys hype a product they want to see succeed at an event for hyping firearms

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>>32778705
If you could replace the H9s frame with that of pic related though....

>>32779194
>Pontiac Aztek of a gun

I keked

>>32778186
>cocked and locked with safety disengaged
Want to know how I can tell you're an idiot?

>>32778689
image search failed me, sauce please

>>32779319
Whos smg and what are they making?

>>32778641
Full-size Glocks do, imo.

>>32779611

The guys making Stg44 copies.

>>32779611
>>32779926
IIRC, HMG (hill and mac gunworks) makes the Stg44. I wanna say SMG makes the Fg42 repro.

>>32778641
so wait, I can use a empty shell casing if I ever lose my plug? why was I never told this?

>>32779555
Don't know

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>>32778641

>>32780073
Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya.

The guy who made Fate decided he enjoyed loli more than anything else, and this is his new main series.

>>32778225
Even pros fuck up with guns...even more so since all their years of combat experience makes them overconfident.

Does anyone in this thread know why the 1911 even had a grip safety?

It was for the goddamn horseback Cavalry. Not because it was needed in any practical sense. Just retarded 1900s thinking.

>>32779957
There is a company in Germany that makes repros of both, but I don't think they export.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISKnl1OnI9Y

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>>32778451
reminds me of

>>32778831
Cz os only good for metal guns.

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>>32780410
>The guy who made Fate decided he enjoyed loli more than anything else, and this is his new main series.

>>32778186
>cocked and locked
>safety disengaged
then it wasn't locked, as you kept the safety off.

>>32780455
Half-Life Opposing Force deagle right? Love that franchise <3 <3 :0

>>32780449
The thumb safety was the safety added because of the cavalry.

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>>32780620
correct

>>32780449
get learnt, the 1910 prototype only had a grip safety. Thumb safety was added after.

>>32779524
>not JB welding the grip safety
LRN 2 OPER8

>>32778007
Whole thread...no Pvt Hudson from Aliens Jokes.

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I would never ND any properly functioning weapon, OP. I know that I wouldn't, because I do not simply practice safety..

I fucking demonstrate it.

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>HURR NO SAFETY

Now one has to ask oneself.
Did any of you actually watched the interview?
Since they tell up front that they have a port for installing 1911 safety if desired and that those guns are not production models.

>>32780883
>1911 style safety*

>>32779611
the STG guys?
They are in production I beleave

>>32780883
>/k/
>having context for anything
That's silly, anon.

>>32780891
Good to know.
Since now I am certain that one or two people are on the crusade to shit on anything made by Ian and Karl with no rhyme or reason.
And thats all fine but don't try to pass false information about pre-production handguns.

>>32778225
>hurr durr he totally fucked up in a video where he was specifically pointing out a way to accidentally discharge with an AK

fuck you're a dipshit

>>32778160
Lol she's from facialabuse

>>32778344
Omg haha I just shit myself

>>32780390
Hey bro

if you have a holster why do you need a safety on a gun meant for duty?

even for casual range use, does anyone but autists engage the safety on a 1911 when setting it down on the table and stepping back to let their friend take over?

>>32780390
RIBBED FOR YOUR PLEASURE

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>>32778641
Easy

>>32780390
Nice airshit, faggot.

>>32778007
>grip safeties
i'm buying one simply because it's texan. $1100 is nothing, i earn that in four days of sitting here shitposting. how do you like that, you little faggot?

>>32778280
this basically, i'm loving it.

>>32778344
funny, but this was the single most in-depth review of any pistol at shot show, might be the most in-depth review of any pistol at any expo or in any PR that i've ever seen; i mean to exclude hickok and others who don't have a rep right there with them but nonetheless talk about the pistol (i don't watch rifle reviews i don't need help with that).

this video won these guys a subscription from me, for whatever little that's worth, for their novel idea of actually talking about the fucking mechanics of the object in question rather than softball a bunch of bullshit to just let the reps/manufacturers talk about themselves and their great idea and why it's great just buy it and you'll find out how great it is oy vey $2500 reissue goy how is that not great look new sixgun that isn't new eehehehe

>>32779194
exceptionally well memed, my man

>>32781950
>for their novel idea of actually talking about the fucking mechanics of the object in question
They couldn't discuss the mechanics because the patents are still pending.
It was just the design process and design choices that were discussed.

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>>32781045
>way to accidentally discharge with an AK
>literally pulls the trigger with his trigger finger
like sorry wut lol what am i missing here

>>32781242
>thinks 15 year old light looks good

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>>32778104
Watch it be MSRP of 1150 like they said but you'll only be able to find it for 1350-1400 because of back orders and a few places buying up all of them

The only negative you could find about the gun is its weight, since its all steel. Its not a polymer carry gun.
It is however a very well manufactured, and in my opinion, attractive design.

If they're reliable I'd buy one.

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>>32780455
Shepherd

>>32782645
they said its 34 ounces

>>32782530
>i was born after the year 2000: the post

just can't get over how fugly that thing is

why is the lower front of the slide so big

>>32782522
He didn't intend to actually pull the trigger there. He didn't have ears on or have his weapon pointed down range

>>32782928
I know but how the fuck was he demonstrating how you could ND if it wasn't what he appeared to be doing
>well you see if you put a lot of pressure with your finger on the magazine catch assembly your finger might slip off and pull the trigg- oops lol there it goes
like... ok thanks travis?

>>32782757
>just can't get over how fugly that thing is
Confirmed shit taste.

>why is the lower front of the slide so big
It has a particularly low bore axis, and the recoil spring is mounted low due to how it interfaces with the barrel.

There has never been a negligent discharge, in the history of firearms, in which some stupid asshole didn't have a round chambered and have his finger on the trigger.

>>32783300
Yes there has

Stuff in the trigger guard

>>32783440
then it isn't an ND but an AD

Good gun

>>32783440
That's not an ND, but still operator error.

>>32778233
>I don't understand the irrational hatred/fear of grip safeties. If it's well desgined, it will be disengaged every time.

Its a case of simplicity. The logic is that, due to the unpredictable nature of a gunfight, you might be forced to fire with an injury or from a non-traditional grip/position in such a way that prevents the the grip safety from properly disengaging. I wouldn't say its an absolute deal breaker, but definitely something to be aware of when selecting a combat pistol.

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>>32779146

>>32783538
Everyone makes mistakes.


Also Taurus pistols have went off via shaking.

>>32783791
That was one version that was never in the US market. That was a police model made specifically for Brazil because the HUES demanded corners be cut to save cost.

>>32783819
Yes but anon said there has never been a ND in the history of firearms in which someone didn't have his finger on the trigger, not in the history of US firearms.

>>32778160
They literally say it's not a custom 1911 trigger because it's striker fired.

>>32783524
You should only ever call it an AD. "Negligent" is a legal term that applies fault. Don't incriminate yourself.

>>32778344
rest in pieces my sides

>>32778280
They might be selling some merch.

>>32778421
>Ian shits on just about everything they saw at shot show to the salesmans faces

Hahahaha. The look on the Colt rep's face was priceless.

Ian was 100% right about the price being fucking stupid, though. I'm glad he fucking pressed them on it.

>>32783095
He was literally saying how doing it was a bad idea...

>>32778616

The Hudson guys were also saying how they got a lot of use out of watching his Forgotten Weapons videos when designing the gun. He covers a lot of really interesting designs that never really got a good shot at life because of circumstance or other aspects of the firearms they were incorporated in being suboptimal.

>>32782725

So, as much as a 92FS?

>>32783095
But he still didn't intend to fire. So it's still a ND

>>32780889
no SMG guns is making FG42 replicas
but unlike HMG, they actually bothered to make decent replicas instead of just guns vaguely shaped like the original

>>32778007
All guns have a safety feature.
It's called not racking the fucking slide before you carry.

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>>32786035
>Condition 3

>>32786059
Takes 2 seconds to turn it from 3 to 0 to X marks the spot

>>32778007
The trigger guard on this thing is wide as heck.
I doubt trigger snag will be a problem.
Keep your booger hook off the bang lever.

>>32786068
Meanwhile it takes a second or less for someone to lunge at you and stab you and you also have to have two hands to rack the slide and that's also assuming you don't fuck it up.

>>32780455
Oh fuck yeah, opposing force multiplayer was THE shit.

I remember my friend'd come to town and every time, it was us and my sister playing half-life multiplayer, opposing force multiplayer (never did play blue shift unfortunately), UT99 multiplayer, Worms 2 Armageddon, and man, I just got a huge wave of nostalgia seeing this gun.

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>>32786227
>>32780455
>1999 was almost 20 years ago

>>32786091
This. There's a reason no military on earth does this.

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>>32780628
>The change made the pistol point more naturally
[citation needed]

>>32786712
Besides the IDF.

>>32787485
This is why revolvers are a joy to shoot

It is also why you lock your supporting hand when shooting semi autos. To where if you were extending your fingers of your support hand out they would be at a 45 degree angle instead of running straight away from the grip like your main hand.

>>32787485
>>32787612
this pic says glock grip angle is superior to the 1911.

>>32787662
yes

>>32778007
>has trigger safety
>provision to add manual safety
OP the perpetual faggot

muh weight faggots can go neck themselves too, metal frame 9mms are a joy to shoot.

>>32780019
This is common knowledge nigger. Up your game, son.

>>32787485
I don't know what the fuck those guys are doing but semi autos do not point down like that. If I made a straight arm with a fist, then open my hand and put my 92 in it, it points right in line with my arm. I can "point", like just flail the unloaded pistol at stuff in the room, and the sights will be lined up when I look down them. The one time I held a 1911 it felt the same, although much slimmer.

The only revolver-like grip I have for comparison is a flare gun, so I can't say.

>>32778178
>most striker fired guns are single action only
Are you fucking kidding me? Single action means that you have to pull back the hammer manually every shot. Striker fired guns don't even have a hammer.

>>32788729
No it doesn't. A Glock can be described as DAO because the striker has to be charged back via the trigger before it trips to fire a round. A gun like the ppq has the striker already fully charged and held back by the sear and when the trigger is pulled the striker isn't charged further it is simply released.

>>32788771
>single action only
>DAO
>D
The D stands for double in this case. >>32778178 is a faggot who got Single and Double mixed up. Twice. That's not something you can pass off as pretending to be retarded.

>>32788795
Holy fuck you retard I said Glock is one of the few that is DAO because it charges back the striker when you pull the trigger

Learn to fucking read you moronic nigger

>>32788805
You're such a faggot. I've been saying that this here post >>32778178 is a fucking retard and made the mistake. Just in case you're just as retarded, if not the same retard, let me link to the post I am referencing three more times.
>>32778178
>>32778178
>>32778178

>>32788842
>Glock is one of the few that isn't sao

That's true you fucking dumb fuck. The Glock is DAO because it charges the striker back on trigger pull the others mentioned are fucking SAO because they just drop the striker on trigger pull.

Kill yourself you illiterate fuck.

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>>32788805
>>32788842
>>32788858
>>32788795
>>32788771
>>32788729
so much rage

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>>32788858
"Single action only" isn't a real term anyway. It's called "single action". This is when you cock the hammer for every shot. You might be referring to DA/SA. It's either that or you're talking about a pre-set trigger, but that's not really considered the action of the gun.

>>32788887
No rage. Just pic related.

>>32789033
The manufacturers sites literally often list SAO and DAO for striker fired guns

Stop backpedaling you got btfo

>Hurr but you said Sao instead of single action

Pathetic stupid no guns autist the 1911 is single action only, and you don't cock it after every shot.

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>>32778641

>>32788729
I think what he means is precocked
Uncocked striker = kahr
Semi cocked = glock
Fully cocked striker = ppq

Why is it okay to carry a striker fired gun with no safety and a four pound trigger but no okay to just carry a cocked 229?

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>>32789033
>Single action is when you cock the hammer for every shot

>>32789124
trigger travel and passive safeties

>>32789124
Pre-set, then. I had a feeling, but I'm fucking tired. Funerals suck. Also, I just realized that I forgot to visit my grandfather's grave, since I went straight to the reception after the prayer near the grave site. Anyway, all of those white graves were a humbling sight.

>why is it okay... but not okay
They're the same thing. People are just faggots.

>>32789155
>what is the Single Action Army and how does it work?
I meant to add the word "manually". You should know that was meant to be there.

>>32789216
Does a p229 not have a firing pin block? I believe that it does. Trigger travel is not something I would want to rely on, either.

>>32789317
Except single action guns aren't always manual cock only you fucking idiot

You should stop posting

>>32789347
If we're talking about semi-autos then
>Single action is when you cock the hammer for every shot
is correct. Yeah, operation of the weapon can cock it too. The point is that pulling the trigger only drops the hammer or releases the striker. It doesn't pull either back any further. That would be double action, possibly pre-set.

>>32789566
So then you're admitting a fully cocked striker is single action then?

>>32787767
whike I know that Glock>1911, such sentiments are rarely heard when it comes to the grip. which is weird. I let people shoot my Luger at times and they have nothing but praise, especially for the grip angle. which is the glock grip angle. when i put the luger away and move to the glock, they start looking down their noses, calling it a piece of shit combat tupperware with a horrible grip...

>>32791420
Probably because the glock's grip is a square?

>>32778705
I was hoping someone would post a Star.

>>32791420
The Luger grip angle is far greater than a Glocks.

>>32791861
yeah, it's not the same to the exact minute but they go in the same direction compared to the 1911 which is usually held to be the GOAT in terms of grip, ergos and triggers. >mfw replying to nirvana fallacy argument

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i think Gearbox should litigate

At least LAV isn't shilling link inrange with his hard hitting SHOT show videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP46nAUlP9w

>>32793392
Everyday I thank God I am not Anthony Burch

>>32778007
>007

Bond digits confirm.

When are they making one in a non-shitty caliber?

>>32793837
once they sell enough to get R&D money.
so maybe never.

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>>32778007
>no safety
>low bore axis
>single action trigger
Looks good so far
>striker fired