After emptying your pistol and your slide gets locked in the

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I hit the slide release. That is what they are there for.

I personally pull the slide back, but some times I just hit the slide stop

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In theory, you want to use use gross motor movements if you're in combat, so rack the slide.

In reality, you're only going to kill paper or steel. So do whichever you please.

>>32766295
> that is what they are there for

nah that is the slide catch, it is there for catching and holding the slide open. it is not for releasing the slide.

>>32766106
I've noticed that my Steyr S seems to not always chamber a round reliably if I slingshot the slide, so I always use the release with it. Thaqt issue might go away eventually as it gets broken in more. My CZ doesn't care.
I am kinda fond of the nice positive kachunk sound from the slide release anyway, it simply sounds and feels right.

>>32766106 (OP)

I drop the slide lock, specifically because I almost exclusively only shoot one model of pistol and therefore can program the muscle memory with reps.

I deleted my previous post because I just wanted to highlight a single reload and not spam a 4 minute video but apparently the start at X thing doesn't embed, learn something new everyday.

>>32766106
Depends on two topics:
A. how clean is my gun/how much do I trust my gun to always chamber a new round perfectly when it is very clean.
B. is my shooting and stance (at that moment) calm and controlled, regardless of speed of fire, or is my body in a greater state of flux and more outside my control?

This is all to say I would use both in an actual self defense situation. I would prefer to use the slide stop, but using it depends on how favorable the situation is to using the slide stop.
This sounds over-complicated and like something I could just be tripping myself with, but the whole point of training is to make complicated actions and decisions like these extremely easy and fully natural.

>>32766106
Using the slide release can round out the slide stop over time, I always pull the slide back

>>32766736
How do you think your trigger works anon? Do you concern yourself with your trigger wearing out?

Do you have a realistic understanding of how many rounds you would need to shoot to even begin to risk that kind of damage?

>>32766736
Thats only a problem for shit tier guns. IE glocks.

>>32766106
Slingshot. It's universal.

>also i'm a southpaw

>>32766106
I slam the mag in hard enough that it drops the slide

>>32766356
At the range, you practice how you're gonna shoot in a self defense situation. Personally, I think that using the slide release button takes finer motor skills but you'll have both your hands on your pistol with a round chamber faster than pulling the slide to chamber one instead, giving you a faster sight picture of your target (in theory. both methods you can do very quickly so you could definitely train to slap a mag in, pull the slide and aim down sights perhaps as fast as someone could hit the button)

>>32766106
I own an SR1911 and I've noticed that more often than I'd like that when I use the slide release to chamber a round from a new mag, the round will catch.

So now I pull the slide all the way back to rack a new round instead. Never had a problem with it chambering properly that way.

I pull it back.
It's not as harsh on the slide stop (doesn't fucking matter), is easier to do under stress with gross motor skills (REALLY doesn't fucking matter), and is actually doable quickly as a left handed shooter (matters).

>>32766858
lol

>>32766106
Grip 'n' rip
>using the slide release

>>32766413
Have a drink for me

The slide catch/release should be what you're using. It eliminates a whole step of moving your support hand to release the slide instead of returning to supporting the gun. There is no reason you should be racking the slide with your left if your gun has the ability to release the slide with your thumb

>>32766906
But would this cause wear and tear on your firearm?

>>32766893
Will do anon

>>32766913
Yes, using your gun will cause wear and stress on it.

>>32766106

muh (almost) scout sniper muhreen friend taught me to pull the slide back because it's more reliable then a slide release.

If you have to operate the gun with one hand then yeah, obviously use the slide catch, or do that thing with your belt and the rear sight.

>>32766913
doing anything with a firearm causes wear and tear. you should be proud if you actually did enough to wear out a slide notch. its a non issue

>>32766906
>The slide catch/release should be what you're using
No.

>It eliminates a whole step of moving your support hand to release the slide instead of returning to supporting the gun
Wow anon, how are you reloading your gun while not moving your "support hand"?

> There is no reason you should be racking the slide with your left if your gun has the ability to release the slide with your thumb

> There is no reason you should be racking the slide with your left if your gun has the ability to release the slide with your thumb

>There is no reason you should be racking the slide with your left if your gun has the ability to release the slide with your thumb
Nigga u dumb as shit, or no guns

>>32766913
Yeah when you get to the 650,000 round count you might have to replace the slide stop.

Mind you every other part on the gun has probably been replaced by now and you've spent insane amounts on ammo compared to a minuscule parts investment of a fucking slide stop kek.

>>32766933
You shouldn't be using your slide release when changing mags

>>32766385
Why is it knurled on top you dumb fuck? Because you push it down to RELEASE the slide

>>32766906

maybe I just have small hands but I've usually found that craning my thumb to hit a slide release is less comfortable then just quickly grabbing the entire surface of the slide

also new pistols have some god damn rough catches holy shit

I have an m&p so I just slap the mag in hard.

>>32766858
>autoforwarding
must have a M&P

I don't know OP, what do the guys in USPSA do?

>>32766106
If you touch the slide after the first mag you're a cuck, kys

>>32766106
Having a slide release and not using it is like having lock/unlock buttons on your car keys and using the physical key manually.

>>32766965
Not him, but I do have a m&p
Got a prob w auto forward?

>>32767013
Train how you'll fight
Gross motor function > Fine motor function

>>32767045
Whoops, sorry. That wasn't meant to be a reply to you >>32767013


>>32766993
>Being so pleb tier that you have to use your key fob to unlock your car
And I never use my slide stop.

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>>32767045

MUH BIO MECHANICAL EFFICIENCY

>>32766965
you can get most guns to do it its just really easy with polymer guns

>>32766939
>It eliminates a whole step of moving your support hand to release the slide instead of returning to supporting the gun

>Wow anon, how are you reloading your gun while not moving your "support hand"?

I think you might be retarded. He's saying you don't have to make an additional movement with your non dominant hand after inserting the mag which would get you back on target faster.

I get it if you don't trust a slide release, but don't be stupid.

>>32766965
Second ingredients this guy.
>>32767080
I can do it with most of my handguns.
I haven't gotten it to work on my revolver yet though.

>>32767080
"most"
no

the ones that do it [b]easy[/b] that come to mind in terms of poly frames, just 2 - USP and M&P

>>32766957
What about on guns where you can't release the slide with the slide lock?

slide release

>>32767127
*seconding
Fucking autocorrect.
>tfw someone will probably take my revolver joke seriously

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>>32766356
>use gross motor movements if you're in combat

I cant believe people believe this fucking meme.
/k/ is full of some of the dumbest and most gullible people.

>>32766295
first post worst post

>>32767158
lol, I'd actually pay to see you get shot at with live rounds while you are forced to reload over and over

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>>32767131
take your gun lock the slide back whack here with your palm. no mag or anything just whack there. might be too painful with some guns cause of lanyard loops.
if the slide drops you can get it to auto forwards.
most guns will even metal ones.
with certain techniques like inserting mags at a certain angle you can get it to work like 90% of the time. now you shouldnt waste your time perfecting it but its possible to do with the majority of guns.

>>32766106
My guns work either way so I push the slide release. Maybe if I had shitty guns I would slingshot them, but fortunately I don't.

>>32766821
He probably doesn't shoot because he's worried about wearing his barrel out.

>>32767141
Such as?

>>32767166
How so? That PPX has over 10,000 rounds through it. I have done that from the day I bought it with no issues at all.

>>32767141
>what about guns that you can't release the slide with the slide release?
>SLIDE RELEASE
if it doesn't release the slide it's not a slide release or your gun is broken

>>32767282
what he's saying is that
there's a thing called a slide release, and there's also a slide catch as well.
2 totally different things.

>>32767217

I'm completely aware of how to do this, I have a ton of auto loaders, I can even "ninja cock" my usp 40 hammer back. (self-loading with the slide down with one handed momentum)

Easy though, as it do it simply, low input, simple, that's the operative word that you're not focusing on.

Slipping the slide lock on most auto loaders is harder than just using the slide release, the anecdotal exceptions of my personal experience being the aforementioned 2 guns.

>>32767322
im not saying you shoud do it just that its possible to autoforwards the majority of pistols

>>32767319
Can you give me examples? I know the PPK has a slide catch that works after the mag is empty. It doesn't have a slide release and that's part of why I think they're shitty (because they jam like crazy and an external slide stop/release would be useful). I understand the difference, I'm just asking for examples. Maybe you can give me some since you're so smart.

>>32767319
Sorry but they're not totally different things. The "catch" is the part that touches the slide when mag is empty. The "release" is the other end of the same piece of metal that you press to disengage the catch from slide thus releaesing the slide

>>32766858
My brother's Tokarev does that, I love it.

on anything other than an M&P, slide release. it just seems a more natural motion. the slide release on the M&P just bothers me for some reason.

i do powerstroke it every now and then for sake of variety.

also, anyone running a glock, do yourself a favor and get an extended slide release out of a G34. makes everything so much easier.

They teach us to rack in combat situations.

>>32767436
Shhhh, don't mention that here.

Wouldn't the stress on the weapon, either way you do it, be the same?

>>32767436
Why wouldn't already be 'hot' in a 'hot' zone?

>>32767455
>what is reloading

>>32767158
You're dumb. You're like dirty African kid with flies on his eyeballs dumb.

>>32767454
How would forwarding the slide stress the weapon? Ever shoot one? The slide stresses when you do...

>>32767467
Reloading doesn't require you to rack the slide
Kys/10

If I slam the mag home hard enough in my Glock it just releases on its own so neither :^)

>>32767220
>My guns work either way so I push the slide release. Maybe if I had shitty guns I would slingshot them, but fortunately I don't.

You're dumb too.

>>32767479
This was referring to slingshoting the slide or using the slide release. Yes, I have. I am just wondering if this is what the debate is about.

>>32767494
Reloading doesn't require you to use the slide release
kys/10

Or you missed the point of his post, in which case it's still kys/10

>>32767500
Oh damn! Good retort anon, you called him dumb! Now you can call it a day

>>32767158

What combat experince do you have? Or are you just saying it's dumb because some Youtuber you don't like does it?

>>32767505
"slingshotting" doesn't stress it anymore the firing one round. You could prevent wear on the catch by not using the release, but I've never heard of that happening...

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>>32767523
>he doesn't slingshot

>>32767512
Re-read my post nigger, I said "reloading doesn't require RACKING the slide"
Fuckyourself.webm/10

>>32767500
no u r the 1 hoo iz dum

>>32767572
Is that supposed to prove something? Why isn't the decocker part of the safety? With an HK you can press down on the safety and it will decock the pistol. How come Sig needs two separate controls for that?

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>>32767654
Please stop posting.

>>32767678
No? I understand why people advocate slingshotting but it is almost never an issue. How many times have you had trouble with using the slide release? I have never had a problem over tens of thousands of rounds.

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>>32767729
stahp pls, also DA/SA Sigs don't have manual thumb safeties...

>>32767749
Well shit, three pictures of guns. I guess I'll quit doing what works for me.

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>>32767350
Gotcha, the distinction needed to be made, but yes you're right most autos it's possible.

Like I said though my post was responding to the operative word of "easy".

Also, my personal thoughts on slipping the slide lock or auto forwarding? Don't want it at all if it's not tactile and repeatable in situations of duress or stress.

Basically I'm the "train on one gun and use the slide lock like the guns built" guy - It's the overall most efficient methodology.

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>having a slide

Lol its like you guys aren't even real cowboys or something

>>32767436
>>32767451
>pawns get taught simple lowest common denominator techniques

color me surprised.,

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>>32767789
Good

>errrmerrrgaaaah can't work a slide lock in a fight because gross motor function
>what is pulling a trigger


Time to stop training to shoot guys, when you get in a fight all your training for precise action is meaningless and your fingers flop around like trout jumping up stream.

When everythinh on here ends up as a argument

>>32767975
Fuck you no it isn't.

>>32766858
I do the same with my m9 sometimes, I don't know if it's the impact and inertia of the mechanism or if my thumb it hitting it, gun is not worn out.

My glock doesn't do it but then again the glock has a slide stop, not a release. I think I'm probably hitting the release on the m9 when it happens, it's definitely faster to use the release.

at least my thread got replies but this turned into shit flinging faster than i anticipated.

>>32767357
M&P Shield. It's not designed to be dropped with the slide lock, so it takes a lot of effort. You CAN do it, but you'd be doing it wrong.

>>32768033
Yeah, mission accomplished, huh?

>>32768116
Kind of. I really wanted the opinion on which one was better.

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>hey guys in a fight with your gun (a precision instrument) you lose the ability to do anything except swing around wildly, you certainly cant apply pressure to a lever fractions of an inch away from your thumb digit.

To dispense with the satire, if you can learn to pull a trigger, you can learn to work a slide release, please accept reality on this one guys.

>>32768102
That's interesting. I don't really like M&P's so I never tried the shield. Do you know why they designed it like that? I would think a CC model would want to give you more options in case you had to do things one handed.

>>32768216
this guy >>32768102 is a moron don't listen to another word he says

>>32766385
>that is the slide catch

You must be 18 to post here.

Remember everyone. Paint your slide release bright red to remind you that while it is an entirely purpose-built control on your gun, with specific functionality YOU SHOULD NEVER EVER EVER USE IT.

>>32767045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53Jd3ltvb8k

>>32766106

I prefer to hit the slide release for expediency but if I'm stressed and jittery and my fine motor skills have gone to shit I'll just slingshot the slide instead.

>>32766106
When did this place become ARFCOM?

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Neither, my slide releases itself and chambers a round when I load the next magazine.

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>>32766879
you know nothing of war

>>32769406
today

>>32768029
My 92a1 does the same thing. I always thumb the release when presenting after a reload just to make sure though.

With my USP I just insert the next mag with a little force, and it automatically releases and chambers a round.

It's also the only pistol I've ever shot that does this. Do any other pistols do this?

>>32769524
I should've read the thread before posting. Oops

>>32766954
>you shouldn't be using a part of a machine for the purpose it was designed for

Can you at least read your fucking drivel before hitting the 'post' button?

>>32767141
Typically, I would infer a 'slide lock' to lock the slide CLOSED, not open.

What about hitting the slide release on an empty gun? I've heard mixed things. Some people say it's detrimental to all firearms to do this and you should slowly ease the slide into place when the gun is empty, and some say it's a non-issue except on specific guns. Which is it?

>>32769712
The consensus from this thread is well, both. Using your firearm in any way is detrimental to your gun but that doesn't mean it still won't last a fucking long time until parts need replacing.
I'd say it's fucking fine to use the slide release button whenever you want.

>>32769712
its a non issue except for highly tuned guns where treating them like tools wont rend them nonfunctional but fuck up the tuning.

>>32769712
Well don't fucking fidget with the slide release and drop it on an empty chamber over and over like an autistic kid with a weird OCD tick.

Doing it after cleaning is fine.

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i dont reload because im not a pussy

>>32766106
Glock says not to on mine.

They also make it fucking annoying/painful/impossible to use the slide lever with your thumb from the factory.

>>32766356
In reality you should be reloading behind cover

Am I the only one that leaves one in while changing mags? I rarely if ever let the slide lock.

>>32769928
do you always count your rounds when you fire?

>>32769765
What did he mean by this?

>>32766400
Make sure you aren't riding the slide forward at all. You should be grabbing it, pulling straight back, and releasing while still pulling straight back. If you ride it forward, you can inadvertently leech some energy from it, causing the issues you're having.

The way I was taught was to literally hit yourself in the chest with your off-hand as you release the slide.

Sometimes if I slap a mag into my Tokarev hard enough the slide lock releases by itself and chambers a round for me

>>32766106
Neither OP the slide on my P30LS automatically goes into battery upon insertion of a new magazine.

>>32766295
>I hit the slide release. That is what they are there for.
you will damage the slide catch doing that over time fyi

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>>32766106
M9 was the first handgun I had any real handgun training. The range officer taught us to use the slide stop/release. It has stuck with me and I don't even think about it anymore.

The M9 is the one gun you don't want to use the slingshot method on so there's that.

>>32766385
It can be either a release or a catch, my M&P shield manual states that the shield 's is only a catch, not a release

>>32766858
my glock does this, i wish it wouldnt, it dosent always chamber

>>32766106
i pull the slide, i used to hit the slide release but something changed and i like to pull the slide now.

also john wick pulls the slide

>>32766851
>>32766851
>this, all of this

>>32768715
Wtf? What he says is backed up by the shield's manual

Fuck off you faggot

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>>32770941
The M9 was the second pistol I had "official" trainging with, the first being the 1911, the third the Glock 19. I've been officially instructed to slide release, grab and rack and one SGT Supersmart talked about smashing the mag in real hard to make the slide drop.

Just because SGT Somebody on a range told you to do it that way doesn't always mean it's the right way. Just remember that.

With that said, I prefer to grab and rack.

>>32770913
>you will damage the slide catch doing that over time fyi
Explain the mechanical science behind that.
>you will wear your gun out by using it

All the retards ITT

If the slide catch wasn't meant to be used as a release they wouldn't fucking texture it and put a big ledge for your finger. Discussion over, retards go home.

>>32766858
came here to post this. with my thumb on the slide release just in case, my p220 does this every single time and never misfeeds, then my hands slip right back into grip position and i can continue shooting. its fast and smooth.

>>32770989
You must be retarded. Even with the (proper for some guns) method of grabbing and racking, you end up holding the catch down. Or when the gun is empty you need to thumb it while running the slide back and closing it

Kys

>>32771013
What? Can you explain that in english? What do you mean you end up holding it down? Or that you need to thumb it while running the slide back? Fucking what?

>>32771013
racking the slide without touching the slide release is the proper combat technique for all autoloaders. finish your coffee and give it 10 minutes to kick in, then come back

>>32770986
Slide stop is what stuck with me. I know the over handed method works in most cases but the M9 is the one gun where the "universal" slingshot method is a bad idea. The slide mounted safty might inadvertently be engaged by this action.

In fact this is probably why using the slide stop is so common.

>>32766400
Lmao get rid of that trash.

>>32771050
Seconding that, in addition if you've been firing you really don't want to touch the slide period because of the exposed barrel

>>32771050
well the army has decided to spend $580 million to take the scare quotes off, so, it's still potentially universal unless and until sig sauer drops the ball and repeats that mistake.

>>32771071
barely burning your hand, which you won't feel until after, in order to keep your pistol running in a combat scenario is a perfectly reasonable trade-off.

I love the sounds the slide release button makes on my walther ppq m2

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Neither, I head that moving the slide back and forth wears on the gun so I don't use it anymore.

I just bang the rear of the gun on something solid until the slide goes forward.

>>32766858
Same
My Cz sp-01 does that
Takes a very forceful mag wack though

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>>32766106
If I use the slide release, my Jericho doesn’t chamber about 25% of the time. So I’ve made it a habit to always pull the slide back to ensure I get a round.

It’s my only complaint with it.

I slingshot but the stupidity on display in this thread is nearly enough to make me switch to the slide release

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>>32767357
On what planet does the PPK jam like crazy? Mine functions flawlessly, even with hollow points, and is my main CCW.

>>32766295
>slide release
That's not what they're called
>That is what they are there for
Literally, they do the exact opposite thing

This is like saying the best way to brake while driving is to take your foot off the gas and lightly pull the e brake

>>32774089
Then why is there a lever that perfectly fits your thumb

>>32766356
Do you honestly believe that shaky hands is going to prevent your thumb from being able to move up an then down? Holy fuck, dude, do you also cut off your trigger guard so you can fire using your elbow?

>>32774407
>Holy fuck, dude, do you also cut off your trigger guard so you can fire using your elbow?

kekasaurus

It depends on how easy to reach or engage the slide stop/relase lever is, and the fact that I'm a southpaw.
For 1911 and similar pistols, the slide stop/release is large enough to be easily engaged by either my shooting hand's index finger or by doing an underhand reach with my right hand. The latter method can do it while I'm regriping with the support hand.
If I'm reloading from the hip, I rather pull the slide back.
Glocks have a pretty small slide stop and Sig P220 or P226 are not easy to reach by my shooting hand (it's right above the web of my left hand), so it's better off to pull the slide back and let go, or try to do an over the slide reach with the right hand and push down the slide stop with my fingers. If I fail to so, I can just grip the slide, pull back and let go.
The Bersa Thunder Pro series have an ambidextrous slide stop and big and comfy enough to do any of the methods above.

>>32774407
To add to this, if you can't hit the slide release what chance do you have of managing to hit the mag release?

>>32774254
The kyptonite of every opponent of using the slide release, they literally cannot respond to this

>>32766106
A) it's called a slide stop

B) you slowly wear away the stop cut by using it as a thumb release

C) it's better to use the off hand to just rack it off quick or yeah if you're trying to be high-speed-low-drag just use your thumb.

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>>32775211
>you slowly wear away the stop cut by using it as a thumb release
That would take years and thousands of rounds to even become a problem.

Furthermore, a slide stop on most guns is not an expensive or hard item to change.

I was Instructed to replace my Cz 75 slide $25 catch/stop every 20,000 rounds.

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>>32773763
1/2

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>>32773763
>>32775640
2/2

>>32766106
I prefer to power stroke it because I'm left handed

>>32775650
that shows nothing besides the guy is too retarded to think-delay for a split second, and has to rely on a physical action (racking and replacing his support hand) to delay his finger from moving the bangswitch.

The best way is to jam the loaded mag up in there at an angle, and get the slide stop to disengage itself without having to use your finger. Go see FagPul's Art of the Dynamic Dildo if you don't know what I'm referring to.

>>32771320

Kek

>>32775696

>art of the dynamic dildo

Made me chuckle

>>32773874
>On what planet does the PPK jam like crazy?
This one.
Interarms made good PPK's. But not every PPK was made by interarms and some are total dogshit.

You have one of the good ones but that doesn't mean every PPK is good. So keep that in mind when you tell people they are good guns. Some of them are trash. Mine jammed like crazy.

There is no external slide stop so clearing a jam is more difficult. You have to rack it, stick your finger in the ejection port and push the slide stop up from inside the gun. This also causes a double feed a lot of the time. So once the slide is locked back you have to rip the mag out of the gun. The "double fed' round keeps the mag from dropping free.

It's a nightmare trying to clear jams with those guns. I'm glad yours works, but when it goes wrong, it goes really fucking wrong. I chose to use a different gun and I haven't looked back.

>>32775211
Having the slide lock back also wears away the slide. It's best to reload with one round left so the slide is never locked back. It's even better to not shoot your guns though, because they're fragile little flowers that break easy. I even avoid dry firing because pulling the trigger will eventually break the trigger. It'll just snap right off.

>>32766858
my G30S does this and it scared me the first couple times.. too tough to pop a full mag in without giving it a gook whack

>>32775846
good*

i don't use korean mags

>>32775640
>>32775650

The only thing this illustrates is how untrained that shooter is.

In reality I really only kill paper and steel so who cares if u rack it or push the catch. When I'm being an airsoft fag I subconsciously rack the slide. It's just a reflex

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>>32775824
> I even avoid dry firing because pulling the trigger will eventually break the trigger. It'll just snap right off.

mysides.wmv

>>32775824
7/10 bait
Not bad

>>32767749
I like the glock in this solid color.

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>>32775640
>posts a webm demonstrating that using the slide release does not always chamber a round, but racking the slide does

>>32775880
>ignores the simple mechanical fact demonstrated in the video to mock the shooter

>>32775696
There's no discussion of "reliance on a physical action to delay his finger" involved here. The only point of the video was to show that a Jericho will not always chamber a round with the slide release.

>>32766858
This works on my 1911, my M&P, and my Hi Power.

>>32777063
Oh it seemed like he was dropping the slide release lever before seating the mag - which IS a valid concern for the slide release technique, sorry that I wasn't aware from your silent, no context, 15 seconds webms that it was illustrating a mechanical issue on a certain pistol, I wasn't able to pick up on that. You sure won the day.

>>32766858
My fnx 45 does that If I slappy it hard enough

>>32767477
lol thanks anon, im going to use that on a cow-orker tomorrow.

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>>32766858
I do the same if I wanna feel like a badass.

>>32766939
You must be an expert on this then. I guess I'll pack up my years of doing this as a professional with multiple schools in a career field that would make people here shit their pants and take it elsewhere, all because your milsurp probably doesn't even have a slide catch close enough to your thumb to even use which makes you the more knowledgeable person here.

>>32766961
I have medium sized hands and for some guns I will rotate the gun a little too reach the mag release and slide release. Shit like a 1911 I use my left thumb to release it.
You're comparing using a little button/lever vs pulling back a slide and releasing it. The button is always going to be easier

>>32773660
First time this happened to me was in a 2-gun match and it seemed like a feature at the time. Otherwise i use the hit the slide release.

>>32766858
some of the old mausers (1910 and 1934???) are designed to close the slide when the magazine is inserted. don't destroy your mag catch dingus

>>32767172
>>32767477
Your body will do what you have trained it to do. If every time you do a reload you use the slide release then all of a sudden you're not going to forget how to do that and suddenly want to rack the slide.
And seriously, moving your thumb down over a lever is not a fine motor skill. That's some bullshit made up in YouTube. You're not threading a needle to perform a reload.

Well, I guess we found the big debate of 2017 on /k/. It's like the new ar vs ak or glock vs 1911.
I'm really looking forward to a ton of troll posts over the next 11 months.

Fwf I use both methods, but I prefer slingshot

>>32777378
>not fine motor skills
I take this back. But instead to say that racking a slide manually would still be considered using fine motor skills, because it still involves using your fingers and gripping the slide.

My S&W M&P9 has an interesting... "feature."

When I've used the last round and have an empty magazine, the slide locks back just like it should. When I put a new magazine in, I can either pull the slide back and release it or depress the slide catch and it functions just as it's supposed to.

The strange thing is, if I forcefully put the new magazine into the gun (not really SLAMMING it in there, but doing a fast or forceful reload), the slide will release by itself. Upon discovering this, I was pretty concerned. However, after trying this countless times, it has never failed to chamber the first round and hasn't ever had any other problem. Is this something anyone has heard of before? Is this something I should be concerned about?

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If releasing the slide stop does not chamber this round I ether have debris in the chamber, the mag is damaged, or I have a weak recoil spring.

>>32775650
That is the worst shooter flinch I have ever witnessed.

>>32775543
Second. 20,000 rounds is a lot of shooting. If your using a handgun that much your going to be replacing other parts anyway. I don't get where people get this idea that if a gun has a part that wears with heavy use its some how a problem. If the M9 Beretta is sold to the public just like the 1911 many of them will be parted out do to many M9's being at the end of their usable service life.

>>32775640
>>32775650
What the fuck? Why does the pistol fly so far upwards if there's no round being fired?

Is this man a human gumby the weight of a feather with bones made of string cheese?

Or is this a moron with no proper training or experience on a gun?

Either way it's equally damning, lol delete your youttube

>>32766106
I personally like pulling the slide back because I'm autistic and like to play with the spring every little bit, I should just release it seeing as it's extremely marginally faster

>>32766106
Poppy uses the slide release with her adorable little thumb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igw6QFSMw_A

>>32767867
Pulling a trigger is gross motor function. I promise you that you won't be squeezing it like you're at the range you'll be slapping the fuck out of it in a defensive/combat situation where you have to use a sidearm.