we HMG STG 44 now

for what purpose?

>>32763286
That's actually really cool, could you do a thread on it when you actually get it and show us the guts?

I also plan to shove that Binary Franklin Armory HK trigger pack onto if I can, it should work.

Just an FYI for all of /k/, by the way
>all the 5.56mm barrels on HMG STGs are actually .223 Wylde
>HMG doesn't advertise it because they figure many people would get confused

>>32763569
SHALL

>>32763580
I will. I was wondering if anyone knows of a HK folding wooden buttstock, in history.

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>>32763286
,':^)

>>32764099
Jesus why did they have to go and do that, it would have been perfect...

>>32764099
Looks good to me.

wtf is 223 wylde?

>>32764340
5.56 and .223

>>32764340
A chamber dimension, not a real caliber.

It shoots 5.56mm and .223 rem equally well.

Usually there is some minor problems with .223 in a NATO spec AR, usually just loss of some performance, but it also doesn't feed as well so it can occasionally cause a feeding issue too.

.223 Wylde is the best 5.56-type chamber you could want.

>>32764099
Friendly reminder that only Germans should be allowed to make stamped parts

>>32764115
>>32764533
wut

>>32764340
Its in between .223 chamber's tight little vagina and 5.56 chamber's cavernous lube dripping opening.
.223 wylde chamber, on paper, should be able to pleasure a .223 cartridge while being able to handle a big black 5.56 cartridge.

>>32764546
Look at the reinforcements in the original receiver. Notice how HMG didn't get a single one of theirs to look like the original?

>>32764140
Something seems very wrong with you.

>>32764099
Jesus fucking christ. Boner killed.

>>32764099
The repro looks worse in literally every possible way.

>>32764608
Oh no, the stamping is slightly different on this gun which is internally different anyway and is not a reproduction.

>>32764670
>and is not a reproduction
More like, "is not in production"

If they had put a tiny bit of effort into making it look like the original, everybody would've won. People like Ian could wank to muh interesting mechanism and history, and normies could enjoy shooting a sexy classic.

>>32764670
>implying that this thing exists for any other reason than to tap into the market of people who want a reproduction Stg44

>>32764745
But Ian hates guns.

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>>32764576
I just got done dude

>>32764765
Because previous attempts at true reproductions have been soooo commercially successful.

Every poorfag who's played a WWII shooter or listened to granpappy's stories "wants" a perfect reproduction STG 44, until it comes to blowing real money on a fancy wall decoration.

>>32764836
You mean the repros that didn't work, had no company support, and were sold in very limited numbers. Yeah that is a recipe for success.
I bet you think the new Colt repros are fantastic and at a great price point.

>>32764576
You need to be purged.

>>32764765
>pretending to be a purist just because you can't afford this already pretty cheap custom gun
Anon, please. Control your induced autism.

>>32764920
Ian, go home

Recent Obligatory
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vwZuG7-xkBk

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>>32764099
>That shitty, jagged cut around the lower receiver hinge
Jesus, they're charging $1800 for that?

>>32764099
Delet this

>>32763286
>300BLK
Cuck, should've gone with x39.

>>32764099
The rifles have become more finished since that was taken, and you know this.

>>32765133
>making my own ammo that mimics 8mm short ballistics on the cheap with good premium options too
or
>buying the leftover foreign commie goulash forever with poorer mass to ft-lbs ratio

I'll take 50 556 or fat op 300 rifle bullets any day over 30 commie craps.

You're a commiecuck.

>>32765141
The pics on their site look the same as that one. Are there more recent pics anywhere?

This isnt an STG44 are you retarded? Why the fuck do you even want one they are shitty guns.

>>32765141
It really hasn't >>32764974

Notice how they refuse to show a decent closeup of the rifle?

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>>32765217
Friendly reminder

>>32765192
Normally I would shitpost and disagree. However there is something wrong with chambering a Russian round in a German(ish) gun

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I actually had the chance to buy a semi auto conversion of an original 44 a few years ago for $3k. It will always be the gun I regret not buying when I had the chance. Pic related

>>32765200
They haven't even put the lower price magazines or the picatinny rail on their site yet.

Call them and get a better inventory. Site needs to be updated.

Check their SHOT shit this year because they were there.

>>32765222
No...

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>>32765261
seems like you fucked up.

>>32765261
Maybe someone will make aftermarket lowers that look more authentic...

>>32765239
>Not taking your own advice

>>32765239
Yes, this is 100% the same fucking gun as the ww2 production/combat one. This is an exact copy sought after by true collectors and historians alike, right?

IF you spend your money on this device with the intention of buying a "modern cheap STG44 clone/thing" you are fucking retarded or just fooling yourself. The ONLY thing this abortion and the STG44 have in common are the outer profiles. Nothing else.

>>32765420
I could put my HMG bolt in an original STG and it would function.

>>32765305
I was flush with deployment money, but I was young and afraid to drop that kind of money on a single gun. Same reason I passed on a lot of stuff I wish I could go back in time and buy.

>>32765273
Scratch part of that. They DO HAVE the lower magazine prices now. And I just bought a bunch of 40pmags too.

>>32765430
I can put a Colt bolt in my Bushmaster, therefore my Bushmaster is an the same as a Colt Sp1

>>32765430
and I can stick my dick in your mother, the same as your father and it would function the same while not being the same at all no?

>>32765470
*is the same as a Colt Sp1

>>32765240
You miss out on the joys of east german aks then.

>>32765470
>>32765480
I could put an original STG bolt in my HMG and it will function.

>>32765483
Those were all made by slav rapebabies anyway

Why wouldn't you get 7.62x39 arguably the closest to the real cartridge?

>>32765504
Anon, are you saying you don't rape women into mothers as suites you??

>>32765515
>arguably the closest to the real cartridge?
That would be .300 AAC blkout.

>>32765499
That doesn't mean anything. For 1 you would still have to properly headspace it. 2 just b/c a couple components can swap out doesn't make the rifle a close copy of the original

>>32765530
If you reload I guess it's okay but I'd rather have 7.62 x 39

It's about the same as 300 BLK really and far cheaper.

>>32765517
But anon, t-that's l-lewd

>>32765557
>I'd rather have 7.62 x 39
Have you seen x39 STANAG magazines???

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>>32764099
Meanwhile

>>32765638
No did they fuck them up?

>>32765651
>cal_.22LR

>>32764099
I don't know why people sperg over this. It's close enough for me.

>>32765651
>mfw ATI looks closer to the original

>>32765689
Just because it looks close doesnt mean it is. These people are attempting to pass it off as something it simply isnt and that is what bothers me.

>>32765689
Because it's an expensive ass repro that doesn't justify its cost

>>32765673
The HMG ones look great, but every other x39 STANAG is a bizarre looking fuccboi.

Lots of us have lots of normal STANAG 556 mags that will work with .300 too. Also, 20 extra rounds.

>>32765533
The original was, at every stage of development and issue, a fucking mess. A clockwork shop of gunsmiths to do UNIQUE work on everyone, even if it was with German efficiency. The HMG bolt is exactly what the Germans wished they could have made.

But the real bolt is a riveted together hunk of soft shit because of war rations/quality.

The Huns would have flipped their shit with joy for this "upgrade" to their design that is finally totally standardized. All the differences are derivative of the STG's legacy or even designed by the same people (cetme/HK influence).

It's gonna be alot of fun to shoot.

>>32765734
The original stg44 bolt carrier has no rivets. Unless you count the charging handle as one.
The fact that the guns were hand fitted is true of every gun of the period. It's great that it can use an original bolt, but if they took the time to make more accurate stampings it would be a lot more appealing to people who wanted an Stg44 clone and not a tactical, modular, multi-caliber, STANAG compatible, Star Wars blaster.

>>32765836
Those, ahem
>A E S T H E T I C
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differences can be corrected with cheap aftermarket of real fucking STG shit, for the most part.

>>32763286
.300blk out what a shitty catridge.

>>32765836
It was reinforced.

>>32766007
More like
>M I N O R
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>>32765721
Anon how much does an AUG cost?
Anon how much does a Tavor cost?
Anon how much does a SCAR cost?
Anon how much does a high quality AR cost?
Anon how much does a M1A cost?

Anon you're a retarded poorfag.

>>32766007
I hope you are right. I'd like to see aftermarket receivers and lowers that look better.

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>b-but the stamping looks w-wrong ;(
I didn't come in this thread to fucking cringe.

>>32765699
But they aren't. They have said that this wouldn't be a one hundred percent accurate reproduction from day one. Considering how labor intensive the original ones were to manufacture, I'm not surprised they tweaked the design. Even in it's altered state, it looks close enough to fool me into thinking it's the real deal unless you put it side by side with an original one. No, it isn't a perfect reproduction, but I'd say its good enough for all but the most demanding purists.

>>32765721
It's not that expensive all things considered.

Look at it this way. Colt is selling their M16A1 reproductions for over $2000. Colt already has the machines and schematics to build them, and they are still charging out the ass. HMG not only had to purchase new machines, but they also had to do a lot of their own R&D work since original STG44 diagrams are incomplete. Yet they are still cheaper than Colts reproductions.

Yes, the HMG ones are pricy but they aren't insanely expensive, especially considering how much money HMG has sunk into the project.

>>32766141
>High quality AR

800

Here's the more important questions, have any of these hit the market yet?

>>32766294
Supposedly in April

>>32765217
as opposed to wanting an MSAR thats broken and you cent even get parts for because the company doesnt exist?

>>32765734
this

The AK was designed just after WW2 and derivations of it are still in wide use in 2017 but most AK variants look very similar to the original AK47

This is what a 21st century STG44 would look and function like

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>>32766576
Well, maybe when we get that polytacticoosenpai
They say they planning on it.

>>32764576
That made more sense to me than the other two
And, I just popped a boner
I've been here way to long

>>32765699
They've never said they wanted to make a 1:1 repro. The were very open about the differences they made in the design for ease of manufacture and to keep the price semi-reasonable.

>>32765676
In the end, they're both fake dress up guns For most people who just want the STG look, who cares about the functionality of the caliber it's chambered in?

>there are people here right now that are upset the HMG STG uses HK trigger packs

>it's like you hate fun

>and having parts readily available across the market to allow use as an everyday rifle

>>32767812
Well the STG-N is as much the same system as the STG 44 as the AR15 is to the AR10.

It's the closest thing to an STG 44 since the original, and is simply the same gun brought up to modern manufacturing ability. It isn't like innovations from other guns don't find their way onto other guns if it makes sense, ie picatinny on AKs.

This gun is an STG.

>>32767812
>In the end, they're both fake dress up guns For most people who just want the STG look, who cares about the functionality
Obviously not the guys who want 1:1 redos.

StG-44s were trash with severe design flaws. In order to shoot a survivor you have to baby the fuck out of it and send it to a highly skilled gunsmith on a regular basis. To say the StG-N isn't a superior rifle to the wartime design is a mistake.

>>32767855
>>32767812
Don't forget not wanting to piss off the ATF.

>>32767705
If they wanted to keep the costs down they would have picked one or two calibers and stuck with it. Don't give us all these stupid excuses for their major long-term fuckups.

>>32767556
>>32766680
YUUSSS
Fucking finally

>>32768235
Go troll somewhere else, ya nigger.

>>32768262
You liked those games? All the ones after RTCW made the NAZIs out to be too over the top bad guys. And your allies are the sjw squad...

>>32764099
>its fine
>it doesnt bother me
>it bothers me a lot

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>>32764099
>"meanwhile at taurus" STG44 that only bears superficial similarity to the original to scam Naziboos who are too dumb to notice the difference out of 2000 fucking dollars
Just buy any half decent AR or AK, you'll have a better gun and you'll be 1200$ richer

>>32768727
So?
I enjoy the gameplay
It's fun

>>32768727
>Ibs raciss against the poor, innocent Nazis

>>32767556
>Compare this to man in the high castle
>Made up guns based loosely on WW2 german aesthetics
vs.
>Shit actually used by Germany in the 1960's but nazi- MPL, MP5, G3.
I'll take the latter, it's not like Vorgrimmler wouldn't be around in a Nazi victory scenario pumping out roller locks

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What is the most /fa/ STG44 magazine carrying pouch, and why would you say anything but pic related?

>>32770135
caught

>>32766273
Windham Weaponry is not high quality.

>>32770145
The Nazi's roller locked guns are my favorite part of The Man in the High Castle mini series.

Anyone have experience with the PTR-44?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS_xUzIjouI

>there are actually people who wish this replica was all original
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SSz6dl94t1I

Goto 7 minutes. THAT LEAD HEAD SPACE. The metal, Lead. Fuck sakes, I am glad hmg's isn't like that.