oper8or tips & tricks edition
old thread >>32744172
Talk me out of it
>>32745648
keep skittles not M&Ms in your grip storage. they melt
>>32745640
depends on what you mean by "done".
>>32745648
your rifle is crap. paint it better
>>32745627 #
I wish they just used actual colors instead of what feels like random names and colors
>>32745602 #
Nonsense
I found a better more coyote looking color for the b5. It's a green according to gunstruction
post rocks ya fags
>>32745655
reticle is thicc
>>32745681
How much $$$ is in this pic?
>>32745648
If you are going to do that put both sections together and put them on the top rail and push it back to your CH. Also get a real USGI kit so the rods are parkerized and not bright
>>32745688
Jews rock!
>>32745690
>>32745704
Stop.
That tactical doodoo brown was the GOAT color and you have to do that one.
>>32745710
~$11,000
>>32745690
paint just the rail a different color. grey...
>>32745718
nice pebbles
>>32745719
Which doodoo brown? I like it too
>>32745688
>>32745667
Now that actually looks a lot more like coyote
AND WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING WITH THE CAPTCHA
>>32745655
Get a PA Platinum
>>32745738
Far left center. I think its pretty sexy as far as gunstruction mock-ups go
Posted for TS
>>32745720
Wow
Also, why did you just take 4 AR's into the woods?
I luv penis and boys.
>>32745681
Why do you have your flashlight on in the middle of the day?
>>32745719
This doodoo brown?
>>32745728
Ok then coming from someone who has done what you are trying to do and done it for a real yeah fuck it you know whats up. I will ask what is your intended purpose with this project of yours?
>>32745773
>>32745777
wow such dumb
Tell me about inline keymod scout mounts. Arisaka the best choice? Came into another 99051, so the roschworks/elzetta is getting dumped and I already have an old M600 to use.
>>32745791
he wants to oper8te harder
Nice target
finfag here (with fin temporarily removed)
>>32745808
>>32745648
So how long does it take the MBT to get in? When will they charge my card?
>>32745817
YOU
>>32745816
heck
yes
>>32745817
Are there laws that require it to be this bad like in California?
>>32745829
7-11w
when it ships
>>32745784
That's it. The doodooiest.
>>32745836
It's got a 50 shades feel to it. Has anyone done shades of OD?
>>32745842
Damn. It's worth it to pay the extra
>>32745840
yup
>>32745850
No, but I've been planning one for my pistol or new rifle if I end up starting another build.
>>32745831
collapse the stock
>>32745853
Is it semiauto or that straight pull shit like in the U.K.?
>>32745852
or buy one from the EE on arfcom
>>32745879
Micro aesthetics are terrible on everything that's not an SBR
ACOG 4x32 BAC or LED?
>>32745897
BAC
>>32745864
Maybe I need to beat you to it.
>>32745886
I don't go there
>>32745881
Semi but featureless bullshit
>>32745904
You goddamn sonuvabitch. No
>>32745892
I think I agree
But I didn't want the bulk/weight of a scope, doesn't fit my POU.
Additionally they don't have KAC stuff so it doesn't have a URX 4
>>32745910
stop ban evading
>>32745852
$100 for the best trigger though, spend what you save on ammo. Assuming you already have a trigger
Just order it and forget it, one day you'll be surprised.
>>32745886
but does it have a dillo, spice, a paintlid, some books, a dvd, and stickers?
>>32745923
Don't get me wrong. Micros are obviously the best around for what they are. But the aesthetics are largely why I am going with a PRO
>>32745879
Comme ca?
>>32745922
:[
>>32745929
I'm not tho
>>32745944
>$100 for the best trigger though, spend what you save on ammo. Assuming you already have a trigger
>Just order it and forget it, one day you'll be surprised.
Yeah i suppose you're right. I wonder if they would charge my card before if I asked and gave the ok?
>>32745791
i'm bored
This goat thing is fuckin gay. why are you nerds so obsessed with it?
>>32745952
Yeah, they look better that way
>>32745666
It would be pretty cool if some company would make quad stack 40 round magazines so that they are compact but high capacity
>>32745975
I'll agree it looks better, but I usually shoot with it extended most of the way.
>>32745978
at least it wasn't stuck in the cam channel
>>32745992
thats how it got bent to shit.......
>>32745731
They were real rocks before qb got near them
>>32745996
oh, i had a similar problem a few years ago but the bcg was stuck halfway back
>>32745952
I basically have an unhealthy fetish for coyote SOPMODs at this point
>>32745940
Gotedad is pretty cool, has a great fight sequence, awesome theme, and as a character he's Shakespearean tragedy incarnate.
>>32746002
kek at least he make cool doggo sculptures n shit
>>32745989
Looks like you're falling into a deep dark pit of indecision. Welcome to hell
>>32746016
What's with the goats? I've never asked before but it's time now.
Buying an ACOG. RMR combo worth getting or no?
>>32746052
Can always add it afterwards
>>32746024
Never seen them
>>32745971
not sure why I tried to offer advice
>>32746044
Play Undertale.
>>32746069
me neither
we /gunstruction/ now
/K/ I have a slight problem
I have plenty of magazines but not enough ammo do I
>invest in reloading equipment and reload ammo for 17c a round
Or
>pay tax documents for trust fund and my register AR pistol as an sbr and get a suppressor
I don't have the immediate funds to do both at same time
>>32746143
Dont use a trust
>>32746143
get a brace and shoulder it.
kinda wish i didnt sell my ACOG
who else here /forge marks/
>>32746143
>17c a round
Either you're doing something horribly horribly wrong or you're reloading primo softpoints.
Which is it?
family photo
>>32746143
How about just buy some ammo so you can shoot and to make sure you want to stick with it?
>>32746169
Aren't you the guy who got cheated on?
>not MLOK master race
>not owning restricted lasers
Kek
>>32746210
where do you live that airsoft is restricted?
>>32746231
>>32746234
Is there a good looking airsoft PEQ15 knockoff?
>>32746245
depends how far away you are standing.
>>32746245
No
>>32746237
You should try putting a black baseplate on one of your tan mags
>>32746270
talk to me when you get an ar
>>32746157
Why not
>>32746163
Waste of money
>>32746174
HI TEK super coat rnfp
165 grain hard cast coated bullets for 9.6 cents per bullet
.300 blk has allot of cheap reloading options
I wish I spent the extra 100$ on one of those scopes that tell me how much my bullet drops than pay for the red dot I have
>>32746259
>>32746263
Thoughts?
>>32746283
its like $70 ya poorfaggot
>>32746237
going to go try out different handguns next weekend but I have my heart set on a glock
>>32746286
is it for an airsoft gun?
>>32746286
>white light
>red laser
If you want garbage
>>32746293
nice, what model? i want to buy another for range fun
>>32746295
No, it's to test fitment and post photos on here
>>32746245
No. All air soft PEQs look fake. You can usually tell in the right lighting, the texture of the polymer used for the body vs cheap made in China plastic. Other signs are visible adjustment screws, covers, or other misc details. Anyone familiar with this technology will be able to recognize a fake one easily.
For clones, you can get the ATPIAL-C, which is .7mw only but aesthetically is the same.
>>32746293
Dont do it, they breed in your safe. Soon youll have one in every service caliber.
>>32746311
17 or 19, it's just for range fun too
>>32746312
>to test fitment
get one of those $10 plastic shells
>post photos on here
no
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Airsoft-Battery-Case-Box-Dummy-AN-PEQ-15-Fits-most-standard-rails-CA-759G-/161467238595
>>32746326
i love my 19
>>32746168
kek buy mine
>>32746283
>165gr RNFP
Good luck getting those to feed well.
Also:
>bullet's under 10cpr
Where's the other 7.4 cents per round going? With subs, powder's gonna be like 1 cent and primers are 3 cents. Convert your own brass from range scavenge or buy a bulk pack from blackout brass and reload them forever as long as you stick to subs.
You also never mentioned it was a .300blk rifle. 5.56 is even cheaper to reload for since 55gr FMJBT's are like 5 cents each.
>>32746339
what are you considering for a range toy?
>>32746291
It's not that I'm poor its just that I realized I could have squeezed so much more out of my AR for an extra 100$
The Red dot I have is nice and works well but it leaves it a bit lacking in how practical it is and what you could easily do with it
>>32746320
ATPIAL-C vs. dbal
Which is better?
>>32746367
92fs, 1911, usp, vp9, and ppq.
>>32746373
you want a sbr but dont have the money for it so get a brace
Anyone ever assemble an upper that's been cerakoted? Does cerakote change tolerances if it gets on the surface of screws/interior of holes?
Pic not related
>>32746394
I didn't like my 92 senpai it felt like a holding a soda can, I have a friend pushing me to get a 1911 and I actually might
>>32746394
+1 vote PPQ
>>32746341
HI TEK super coat has a bonded coating that doesn't flake off when shooting and it's slicker than a fmj so they should work fine
And your right I should have specified it was a .300 blk I guess most people assume 5.56 when someone says AR
>>32746341
As a follow-up, I use Palmetto Projectiles 203gr boattails (also a cast/coated bullet) over I think 10.0gr IMR 4227. Even with the bullets being 11 cents each (when bought 2000 at a go) my total cost is about 17cpr.
>>32746378
What dbal?
D2, i2, or A3?
All have their ups and downs. The nice thing about Steiner lasers are the strong aluminum type housings and QD mounting. The height over the rail is enough to easily accommodate weapon lights at the 2 or 11 o'clock positions without ghosting the beams. Also, the availability of a visible green laser is nice.
Between all civilian models, I would pick between the A3 or D2. If I need high illumination, for say, hunting purposes, go with the D2. The A3 is functional and has an IR based illuminator vs LED (like the D2), but is very weak because of FDA restrictions on lasers. Would be effective at <50 yards. Is adjustable though vs the ATPIAL-C illuminator flood.
>>32746447
Hi Tek is just a polymer-based powder coat. Any of the powder coats, even the DIY shit from powder by the pound, won't flake off.
>>32746428
ive shot my gramps 92 and it was alright. 1911 would be if i could find a decent used one
>>32746465
Hence why it works well and is cheap
See>>32746449
Now I just need some cheap .380 reloading supplies
So can anyone tell me why I shouldn't use a trust for an sbr and suppressor?
>>32746458
I'm considering the D2 as it's within my price range. Is there an advantage to the IR illuminator vs the led illuminator?
Which has the stronger laser?
>buy larue MBT trigger during black friday
>still hasn't shipped
th-they haven't forgotten about me r-right?
>>32746554
Trusts are great if you have a family that shares your passion for firearms and you don't want them to go through the hassle of having to file ATF form whateverthefuck to keep your restricted items when you pass. All 41P did was require fingerprints included when you add more members, and for subsequent purchases. I'd say go for it, unless you're a tip top loner and want the ATF to destroy/give to "moderates" in Syria your collection when you die
>>32746615
Forgotten? Nah.
Defrauded? Probably.
Don't complain tho, Marky Mark will sue you for slander.
>>32746615
I'd call em tomorrow
>>32746615
Larue is a fraud
>>32746769
>>32746283
>Waste of money
It's most definitely not
>>32746409
>gets on surface of screws/interior of holes
>pic somehow not related
Sorry nony, you're gay
>>32746898
You double n*gger. pic related sums up your pathetic life
>>32746615
I got mine over a month ago, shouldn't have waited till the last minute of the sale to place an order.
>>32746409
Not sure if you're him
>>32746934
But cerakote isnt magic, it's a koting, so it takes space. Tldr? The holes get smaller when koted
>>32745796
inline is the shit
>>32745892
>>32745923
>>32745948
What about this?
>>32747601
they dont know what their talking about micro's are fine
>>32747601
don't listen to autism
>>32747640
*they're
Variable power scope or ACOG/RMR combo?
>>32747722
Depends what you plan to do
>>32747740
Training carbine, range toy, SHTF, everything besides 3-gun. Also considering a plain old red dot instead
How would one go about unlocking a running f150 with the keys inside
Tips appreciated
Asking for a friend
Got some questions for my first AR build
What's the best 5.56 10.5" barrel for about 200 bucks?
How do I find out what length of gas tube I need?
Whats the best keymod rail out there for about 150 bucks?
What angled foregrip will fit a keymod rail?
>>32748103
INC memelock
You could prob find a URX for 150 if you look around, I love mine
pistol length
I think magpul makes one, you might have to order it if you get keymod though, it doesn't have as much support as mlok
>>32746615
>Buying Larue products
>2017
People are still stupid enough to do this?
>>32748035
Use a wire coat hanger thats been straightened out to pull the handle or hit the unlock while slightly prying the door open above the window
>>32748241
tried that for an hour, cops came and opened it up
>>32748244
Depending on year it can be hard due to changing handle designs
>>32748247
it was borderline impossible with the tools i had on hand
it also didn't have a vent window and was a company truck owned by a 3rd party so i couldn't do any damage to anything
>>32746011
I have a coyote SOPMOD
Its gud
>>32748323
I like mine pretty well. Thinking about getting another one
>>32748212
Larue has the best rail covers
>>32748212
Your opinion matters to me. So far, everyone says the doodoo brown on the top right, second row on the left. >>32745989
>>32745952
>>32748560
patriot brown receivers, FDE stock and rail. make it so.
>>32748560
On >>32745989 I like top left and top right the most.
On >>32745952 both look good to me.
Biggest piece of advice I can give is just take the plunge. I've repainted this damn gun at least a half dozen times.
>>32748589
Shit nigger. I've been thinking about adding some patriot brown and field drab. I love patriot brown.
>>32748611
Believe me, I know about painting. I think I'm gonna cerakote this one.
>>32748683
>cerakote
You better be 100% sure you love the scheme before you paint.
>>32748878
Yeah. Well, I got quads for >>32744444#. That kinda decides it for me. I actually do like the Patriot brown cerakote. It's also not particularly common here.
>>32748923
>making real life decisions based on the sequence of shitposts on an outdated inca terrace farming forum
>>32748923
I like patriot brown, I wish I had gotten that instead of the federal brown from cerakote.
Paint everything but the controls Brown, and that include stock buffer tube Barrel but nothing muzzle device also the rails on the receiver should stay unpainted.
>>32748953
Fug
>>32748923
shit taste
>>32746615
https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_219/280400_LaRue-MBT-2S--99-Black-Friday-Sale-Wait-Time-Thread.html&page=3
A few people that ordered on black friday have been getting triggers recently. Check this thread out for an idea
>>32748956
i wish you could afford the whole M110 kit just so i can see you destroy it
>>32748984
I wish you weren't so annoying
>>32748990
did you get your rail yet
>>32748992
No, gonna email the guy to see what's going on.
I also still need to find an m4a1 ris for less than $450.
I've increased my budget because of the amount I should get for the rail that I just bought.
>>32749003
wait i thought you're buying an upper with an M4A1 RIS installed
>>32749018
Hell no, those are too much and would make the rail end up costing $500
Some guy wanted $1,200 for an M4A1 upper with the Tango down grip as if that's worth 1200
>>32749026
then what are you buying im confused
>>32749037
I bought the M4A1 FSP for $390 total and it's nib.
>>32749037
>>32749047
Just the rail
>>32748966
Look who's talking.
>>32748949
It was a joke anon.
>>32748953
Yeah. I intend to just do the receivers and handguard.
>>32748956
Which color is that?
>>32749060
>Which color is that?
No idea
>>32749060
>>32749047
what did you buy that for?
i know you have aesthetic retardation and won't build an FSP block ii
>>32749060
>>32749067
I think KAC just calls it "tan". Some fags on the internet will tell you it's KAC taupe and they're wrong as fuck
>>32749080
I bought it because it was cheap and wanted to make a few dollars, there's a guy here who wants to buy it for $450.
This way I can also increase my budget for a non-fsp from $400 to $450
>>32749077
>>32749086
>>32749067
I see. Maybe I can find a local place that does cerakote. They may have swabs I can look at
>>32749090
sounds like a retarded wasted of time but i guess $50 isn't that much of an issue to me
if 450 is your top you might (will) be searching for a long time
>>32748956
Taupe
>>32749117
Some guy was selling one for $425, on EE, the other day but I was 20 minutes too late. someone was also selling one for $500 yesterday but it was missing the barrel nut and I offered for $425 but he sold it to someone else. I'm pretty confident i'll be able to find one for $450. there have been quite a few on ee that sell for under that but you gotta be quick
>>32749133
good luck with that
you should immediately put it in an auction on ebay
>sitting here rubbing my hands watching my watch count down with 80+ watching
>>32749144
If anon is actually willing to pay $450, i'll do that, otherwise it'll go on ebay.
Orangecat check your email.
>>32745655
>Talk me out of it
Why? You can afford it so buy it.
>>32749144
is... is the first kid lying in the background?
I'm looking at cerakote places near me, and they have some normie ass guns done up here.
>>32746143
Ammo is more important if you bought your weapon to shoot. Toys are more important if you bought it to look at. I'd wait to see if the hearing protection act passes before fucking about with suppressors. If you want one for SHTF you can build then hide the pieces separately.
>>32749298
>piston upper
Maximum normie
>>32749305
>Toys
>>32749312
I've seen about a hundred cerakoted tauruses and sigmas so far.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013S645HQ/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=marketorder-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B013S645HQ&linkId=7a75cd8b1d69ab87c48c6845dcffd03b
IS this a meme?
>>32749325
Yeah. If you want top quality for cheap, buy Barska.
>>32748035
Search on Youtube for vidyas which show technique and tools. Then get the key copied and safety wire or hide-a-key for the next time. If it's recent enough to have an anti-theft chip in the key you can get the key blanks cut to fit and program them yourself. Plenty of howtos on the net. Also visit Ford Truck Enthusiasts for best Ford truck forums by far.
>>32749319
This is some han solo looking stuff.
>>32749460
looks like some mind numbingly retarded normie idea of cool
>>32749460
I like this one.
>>32749325
this is why the aliens dont visit us
god has abandon us
>>32749587
>>32749570
No, they don't visit us because of cocksuckers like you who can't even get a job a toys r us.
Both the people from your pictures have jobs, unlike you
>>32749638
Spot the fucking total retard
>>32749640
Put your trio back on pubeboy
>>32749638
that gay shit
me
>>32749570
>>32749587
>>32749659
>>32749659
that ain't me
>>32749693
you are the type of pathetic fuck that will phonepost to back himself up
>>32749712
the funny part is its not me
>>32749724
it is so unlikely that anyone would bother typing out a post even remotely defending you, that is rather hard to believe
>>32749757
Yeah
There's no way you could be wrong
>>32749757
what have i done to make you hate me so much
>>32749769
>>32749772
why don't you go on another chicken tendie quest and blogpost about it
Time to purge some shit.
>mfw i have to deal with normies
wish me luck /arg/
>>32749812
is that a comp m2 cover?
>>32749805
>implying you aren't entertained by me
>>32749817
comp m2/pro cover
>>32749712
>>32749805
Post spr pls
>>32749818
no
i'm not
the harder you try the more i legitimately want you to fucking die.
>here's the part where you claim to be trolling again
>>32749821
i'll buy that and an LE stock
>>32749833
older picture
>>32749839
Yiss post more pls
And stop replying to pubeboy, he's beyond hope
>merely pretending
>>32749839
$30 shipped for both?
>psa or SW stock?
>>32749812
What muzzle device is that and do I need some stupid adapter
>>32749867
Noveske KX3 and a crush washer like a normal A2 would use
>>32749852
>psa or SW stock?
which ever one doesn't have any markings on it
i'll be on TS later
>>32749849
i don't have anymore on this pc
>>32749640
>>32749659
>>32749693
>>32749712
>>32749724
>>32749772
>>32749769
Babies with rifles
>>32749874
How many monies you want and does it do anything useful or just look cool
>>32749879
REEEE
>>32749879
the all do senpai
I get off work at 11est
>>32749889
$70 shipped and it directs the blast forwards
>>32749903
>the all do senpai
aw fuck
i already have one with the ruger chicken on it
is that PRO mount knob reversible?
>>32749922
i dont think so. at least its not looking like it.
>>32746085
Battlefield yay!
>>32745648
No one cares, faggot.
>>32749812
What do you want for the sight?
What are the top 3 things? Mag carriers?
>>32750025
Found the ar-180 owner
>>32749812
how much for the mag pouches
Does anybody know the actual ID of the surefire 7.62 muzzle devices? Are they actually .310 or bigger?
I'm hoping to christ they can fit senpai 9mm through them or else i'm gonna an hero
>>32750100
9mm will not fit
>>32750119
rip anon
>>32750100
nope
>>32750029
$25 shipped and tripple mag pouch
>>32750072
$45 comes with three plastic molle clips
>Esstac Kywi
>>32750178
What grip is that?
>>32750100
>>32750100
they wont fit. but depending on the device, you can drill it out to open it up
>>32750200
Magpul MOE+
Like a magpul houge. got a rubberized texture to it
>>32750029
What sight is it, Troy?
>>32750215
Thought it looked like magpul
I'll hold off
>>32750217
>>32750178
I'm retarded.
>>32750217
troy fixed Hk
>>32745648
I open /k/ and see OPs like this and immediatly want to kill myself
>>32750229
Did you like it, or would you suggest something else? It'd probably go on my 14.5"
>>32750235
good
now leave
>>32745648
Why didn't you just get a cleaning rod that could fit in your stock?
>>32750235
I'm sorry that things have gotten so bad that you're fragile enough to want to kill yourself after browsing /arg/
>>32750235
Do it
>>32750249
I like the DD over the troy. Thats really it.
>>32745790
How well do keymod rails work with pic rail adapters for an afg?
Been trying to decide wether to go with the strikeforce keymod handstop/afg or one of the Magpul afgs with a pic rail from bcm.
>>32749812
How much you want for the Magpul stock?
>>32750292
i dont really like it. but thats my friends rifle
>>32750302
Milspec. Missing two back screws for the rubber plate. $25 shipped
>>32750292
It adds unnecessary weight and bulk. Also, the pic rails are kinda expensive for what they are if you don't already have them.
I personally would go with the handstop, afg's are ugly and uncomfortable for me.
>>32750277
Let me think on it. Don't wait on me if someone else wants it
What is a good straight pistol grip? thinking about getting the Magpul K2
>>32750251
>>32750212
You are such cancer and everyone unironically wants you to die
Including your mom and her new boyfriend
>>32750675
Leave fluffy alone, he's a good dude.
>>32750653
K2, K2+ if you want rubberized, BCM mod whatever. Those are your only options.
>>32750716
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
JUST LIKE YOURE A LEGAL CITIZEN LMAOOOO
>>32750653
MOE SL. I like it quite a bit.
>place an order on Larue 3 months ago
>back ordered
>forget about it
>suddenly order completed
>>32750653
K2, BCM, B5, and HK v7 are your best bets
>>32750775
Am I gucci now
>>32750775
dillo gods shine down on you
>>32750841
no
god no
>>32750850
Those are mice
>>32750947
bill pls stop
Got this back the other day
>>32750841
Fuck yeah nice scope
Toss one of your bakelites in there for me
>>32750989
I like it
>>32750850
Cute mice toys
>>32750716
You still have that A2 FSB?
>>32751001
Bout to head down to Miami, maybe later I'll take some pics with other mags
>>32750213
That's what I'll probably end up doing- I doubt the pressure of 9mm is going to damage a slightly drilled out 7.62 device
I want to be a wardenfag so bad
>>32750841
Nice, I like it
Get rid of that vertical grip and it will be breddy gud
>>32751097
Well have a good time
This would look godlike with a bake in, the bandage bs removed, and a normal handguard. How much was the scope and where did you get it? It's a 4x, right?
>>32751117
It's too comfy to get rid of, but I'm gonna take some pics without it
It should fit in better when I replace the stock and get a different flash hider
>>32751126
Ordering a PT-3 soon so triangle isn't staying long
I got mine at a good deal, 240 shipped with an MTK-83 mount to replace the SVD one. But it's also a PO 4x24 and not a PSO-1m2. Same company, same tools but it's the NPZ equivalent of black RIS II rails
>>32751183
>Ordering a PT-3 soon
Gay
Give me the triangle when you do
/r/ing qb's fde m16a2
New>>32751347
List all reasons Giddy is best /arg/ trip
>>32745984
I don't think that's possible. Does anyone know how a quad stacked mag would function?
>>32751571
quad stack mags are a thing
>>32751126
I think if you take the bandage off the stock is gonna bomp you gud since that scope isn't letting your cheek anywhere but hanging in midair
>>32751266
>A2
get the fuck off my board
>>32750292
Keymod is for people who don't actually shoot their guns without a bolted down and padded vice or bench rest. Get whatever looks cool to your clan.
If you want to actually buy decent stuff get something mlok and save the weight