Reticle edition
old: >>32716740
>not putting battery boxes on your real steel to troll 4channers
>>32719561
Fuck pb
I get it would be a straw purchase if a friend bought a lower for me and transferred it to me.
Is it still a straw purchase if it is bought, assembled into a complete rifle, then transferred? Always wondered this.
>>32719561
In
>>32719583
Fuck white people
>>32719515
I think its a fucking goner jim
>>32719588
who cares? just build it and take ownership of it.
>>32719561
Do you all think I could use this muzzle device on an 11.5" barrel with a 12" rail and clear the end of it?
Also, I didn't even know they made 11.5" barrels with mid length gas. What the hell buffer would I use? I don't know shit about buffers.
>>32719600
I'm talking about strict legality. I already have an AR and don't want more than one, a friend of mine is wondering this and I can't find any info about it. It reclassifies the item, so I think it might no longer qualify as a straw purchase.
>>32719561
>>32719561
>>32717732
Can you give some data on this setup?
Barrel length/manufacterur, handguard manufacturer?
Thanks breh
>>32719610
Nice silencer
>>32719613
>buy lower
>build rifle
>sell to him for $1
legal
>>32719622
When did this meme start and why?
>>32719598
>SFP
rrreeeeeèéêëēėę
>>32719628
so airshit peq?
>>32719625
Yeah that's what I'm asking. Since it is being reclassified into a rifle, it is no longer a straw purchase?
>>32719633
Don't know and argeeeeees obsession with Wardens
>>32719635
>The current year
>Using a reticle for ranging
>>32719633
to make fun of all the ledditors on /arg/ who want their guns to look like they've got a suppressor without going through the boredom of acquiring a real one
inb4
>muh concussion reduction
>>32719666
>No bayonet
>>32719628
>>32719578
Any chance you can dig up the original listing or any brandname? All the peqs i can find are like $10 and look like fisher price toys
>>32719654
It means the reticle is lying 99.999% of the time though
>>32719649
ya
>>32719681
>>muh concussion reduction
>hes never been next to a sfmb
>>32719695
>muh sfmb muzzle braking
>muh negate its effectiveness with muh wannabe silencer
>>32719688
If your desire using reticle subtensions for holding on a 3-9x and your not at 9x, your doing it wrong.
>>32719708
>shoot alone and sfmb is nice
>shoot with friends and warden is handy
maybe kys
Posted for frenchie
>>32719561
Still looking for an affordable A1 upper. Brownells has one stripped for $150 but it's out of stock and not available for backorder.
>>32719720
You don't have friends, they are just using you as an accomplice/alibi.
>>32719720
>shooting with other people
>having friends
disgusting desu
>>32719727
What are you, like 5'10"?
>>32719666
nice shit post senpai
>>32719742
6'2"
16" dissy
are iron sights btfo?
>>32719758
WARE GET M203 BB
>>32719739
>they are just using you as an accomplice/alibi.
what did he mean by this
>>32719740
>he doesnt shoot with trips from /arg/
sad!
>>32719688
NVM found it. PM'd you the answer :)
AYO
/ARG/
get
the
FUCK
in
here!
We need your help getting the Hughes Ammendment removed!
>>>32719611
>>32719773
too antisocial bb plus there aren't any trips near me
>>32719765
yes
>>32719588
Is this because you're under 21 or a felon?
>>32719789
dont go to meets then. pure cancer
>>32719788
Im kind of glad we have the hughes amendment.
No troll
>>32719802
I'd feel too out of place anyways, I look like a total normie.
>>32719792
Well I'm under 21 but I already have my AR and don't plan on building another. A friend was asking me and I have no clue about that shit so I figured I'd ask here.
I may do that with an Uzi though.
>>32719822
>I look like a total normie.
thats why i never went to another one.
>>32719824
if its a rifle you are gtg
Elcan reticle best reticle
>>32719790
I'm legit thinking about just removing my mbus sights from my sbr. I've got a dot + mag on it.
Considering moving them to my 9mm upper once it is built.
>>32719814
please kill yourself
>>32719845
That's what I did when I built my 9mm pistol and had a Strike Eagle
I miss u 9mm brother, but the USP + $400 was worth it.
Also
>Colt mags for lyfe
>>32719846
Seriously though. Having a couple barriers to entry that prevents the average jackass from going cyclical is a good thing.
>>32719802
Same for TS
>>32719866
giddy pls
>>32719863
nothing against colt mags, but I prefer the availability of glock mags (and the aesthetic t b h)
>>32719792
Mk8>Mk4 ;)
Got to play with the new Remington P9 at work today, and I wasn't disappointed...it was a total piece of shit.
>>32719824
This>>32719836
>>32719864
there have been extremely EXTREMELY few crimes committed with full auto legal firearms that its fucking mundane
go fuck yourself
>>32719561
I've asked this before and don't think I got a response.
Does anyone make a bunch of ranger bands in a bunch of different colors?
>>32719891
Can't blame you on the availability but I think Colt mags look fantastic and Glock mags look weird on an AR lower.
>>32719896
>>32719836
Gotcha. Thanks homebois.
>>32719899
Sounds like everything is working then
>>32719824
I see.
>>32719896
WRONG
>>32719896
>no less than six different shades of black
Is this rifle made by FN?
>>32719913
holy fuck, get out of here liberal
gun control has done nothing but make crime worse, if you did some research you'd find that out
kindly fuck off, thank you
>>32719836
There's a couple of more normal people here id shoot with, but mostly I'd hate to meet most of you.
>>32719936
>full auto VERY restricted, there have been few crimes committed with full auto weapons
>gun control has done nothing but make crime worse
Care to rectify that for me?
Im just saying the laws, as they are now, are pretty dialed in on the federal level. Maybe make traveling with class 3 a little easier, but thats a minor point.
>>32719965
you'd be my friend, right? we'd sing songs together at the range?
>>32719977
You realize is hasnt always been restricted like that dumbass? Check the rates before the restrictions dumbass.
>>32719977
you realize you can get illegal full auto firearms right?
restricting law abiding citizens does not make things better, quite the opposite
besides, full auto has very little use in most cases, besides in warfare, and even then, does semi auto is overall more useful in most applications
so we should have full auto anyway, its unconstitutional
>>32719965
i went to a WA meet and 99% of em were autists but one is anon here and hes cool. ive met/shot with 4 guys from /arg/ and all are normie, which is nice.
>>32719987
I'll be your pal
>>32719899
>individually registered firearms are rarely used in crimes and don't seem to get "lost" as often
Really made me think.
>>32719935
Your making me want to add another shade anon
>>32719935
Kek. Here's one with better lighting.
>>32719995
I'd imagine a large portion of /arg/ could convert theirs to FA within an hour
>>32719929
I got a spurred hammer for my USP C, makes decocking less spooky and looks better.
>>32719995
So how has restricting full auto weaponry made things worse?
>>32720059
>>32720004
>>32719995
>>32719993
>>32719977
out out out out stop
we dont need another mlok v keymod
>>32720071
But mlok and keymod have both been BTFO
I ripped a strap off a sleeping bag that was serving no purpose and put it on my blade.
Does this look tactical enough?
>>32719987
No I'd not like to meet you.
>>32719998
I'd shoot with you since you seem normal. I'd never go to a meet though.
>>32720028
Those compact 45s are cool. I'd like to snatched up a USPCT at some point.
Is it the same as the hammer on the Tactical?
>>32720083
Why for?
>>32720096
I wouldn't want to meet you either.
>>32720028
Do you not have a decocker?
>>32719561
redfield 3-9 tac moa
>>32720089
Yeah I think so.
>>32720112
I do, but it's still spooky. I know there's no reasonable chance of it making a round fire and it doesn't go in as far as when you fire it, but still. Spooky.
Any of u dirty fags have a 308 bolt action?
>>32720133
No, just 30-06s
>>32720111
Rude.
hey guys, newbie here again. for those who dont remember or werent here, my brand new bolt carrier group is sticking very badly in my upper receiver, almost to the point that i have to whack it out with a hammer to get it out. charging handle and bcg move as theyre supposed to individually, but together they stick. buffer tube/spring is moving as it should. barrel installed and problem persists. thoughts? if i cant fix it tonight im gonna take it to a gunsmith in the morning
>>32720132
So you try to hold to as it goes forward?
>>32720151
Just keep it from slamming forward, ye.
>>32720133
yep
>>32720138
>memetic coating
>>32720157
That's retarded. Learn to understand how it works rather than interfering with its function.
>>32719561
I'm getting an optic and trigger for the M4A1.
Should I Gucci these up more or start another build?
>>32720181
Dawg I understand that there's a firing pin block and the gun can't fire without the trigger pulled, I'm just saying I don't like it slamming forward. SIG's decockers spook me a lot less.
Not like making it decock slower is affecting function you tard.
>>32720191
Probably going to get an MBT for this and stick the SD-C I just bought in the M4A1.
>>32720191
What optic?
>>32720191
start another build, i've got the perfect rail for it.
>>32720173
They work though. Easy to clean and smooths out the cycle.
>>32720201
Do you carry on an empty chamber too you pussy faggot?
>>32719644
ya m8
How would one deal with dot washout caused by a flashlight indoors? Is there any way around it other than just turning up the intensity of your dot?
>>32720145
anybody have any advice or anything? having $700 worth of shit i cant use laying in my room is kinda pissing me off after how long i waited to get the parts
>>32720168
How far u shoot it?
>>32720221
80 shipped you kike
>>32720233
If I carried on an empty chamber why the hell would I care about the decocker slamming forward?
>Haha look at this guy taking secondary precautions for his own peace of mind, what an idiot!!
>optic isn't gonna be here till monday
Fak
>>32720247
800
>>32720239
Kys
>>32720264
tried that, dont have a working gun
>>32720241
Not very. Farthest I've gotten a deer at is about 180 yards.
>>32720257
are you me? fucking ups says that it will be in my town on sunday but I won't fucking get it till monday. I just want my PRO
kys
>>32720218
Aimpoint PRO most likely
I want the M4A1 to be able to survive a nuclear holocaust. Any suggestions?
>>32720254
Well you seem to be afraid of your gun for no reason. How am I supposed to know how your puusy mind works?
>>32720221
I already have a RIS, only one I'd be remotely interested in is the mk18
>>32720318
I think you're missing the point, but ok
>>32720321
600
>>32720326
Shouldn't you be trying to fit a pierogi in a taco
>>32720335
>>32720314
If cost is not a concern, get a Aimpoint CompM4L, it can use AA's and the mount doesn't require leveling.
If you want a do-all optic, as much of a joke people make them out to be, get an ACOG or an Elcan Spectre 1x-4x. Their reticles are etched so you can use them without batteries and they're tanks.
Or just get a Primary Arms like some people will tell you. Most of us wouldn't last a week anyway.
is green carpets finally gone?
>>32720326
60 shipped you kike
>>32720361
I think I may have completely killed him
>>32720361
You don't know the fun you've missed.
>>32720381
I'm on my phone, in all the GC pics you've saved do you have my flow chart?
>>32720348
I thought about an ECOS, but after seeing pictures of the PROS after IEDs and fires I was pretty sold on them. Doesn't the compM4 just get me a different mount and battery life?
>>32719681
concussion is a real problem with short barrels though....
I did it, I took em off.
Honestly don't even know if I'm gonna put them on my 9mm because I'll have a strikefire on it.
Also I feel like I should move my magnifier forward in its mount. y/n?
>>32720430
Fak
>>32720361
Here >>32687996 doesn't include all the bullying afterwards and all his REEEEing in between either tho
>>32720191
pic through the Steiner pls. How is the 1x? Is it true, can you use both eyes open?
>>32720389
And it uses AAs. The PRO is really good for half the price though.
H8/R8. Gonna swap the stock out before long.
>>32720389
It's superior to the older comp sights just by sheer hardware and life. Consider the M4 just a overkill PRO
>>32720314
buy my PRO so I can buy Giddy's RIS
Recommend me something AR related (or shooting in general) that's not necessary but fun to have.
t. more money than sense
>>32720537
A suppressor.
This is Trump's America now.
>>32720537
SGL-21 converted to 104 clone
>>32720547
Stock didn't make it I'm guessing? Sometimes they just don't update tracking
>>32720454
On tap, ice cold and refreshing.
>>32720498
8.5/10
It's got a lot of the things I love and none of the things I hate.
>>32720348
>elcan
>tank
>>32720562
Nope.
I'll deal with it either tomorrow or Monday.
>>32720524
What do you want for it? Post pics
>>32720547
Literally the second HR367 passes I'm getting a can
>>32720562
seems like fun
>>32720595
Thx BB.
>>32720537
Geissele SD3G
>>32720599
God damn USPS, I wanted memes
>>32720608
Well, I'd want to sell it with an ADM QD mount since I'd no longer have a use for it. Looking for a pic
>>32719561
Important poll here: http://www.strawpoll.me/12158916>>32720623
>>32720654
shit
>>32720639
The memes are best served lukewarm, we may have missed the opportunity for the final deathblow to GC but the constant memery will live on
>>32720634
Absolutely disgusting rifle : )
>>32720674
Maybe he'll try to come back right as it happens
>>32720614
Gonna cost ya a helluva lot though
>>32720682
pig disgusting 2bqhfam
>>32720702
Probably got a rangeban tbhfamalam
That's how CG died. Rest his autistic soul.
>>32720682
true 1x right?
So, I've been considering getting the Faxon ARAK-21 upper for an AR build, any thoughts on that upper?
I rather like the caliber interchangeability and the looks of it, as well as the long-stroke piston.
>>32720702
Yeah, but without the $200 stamp it'll be a little cheaper. I'm just hoping to snag one before the price skyrockets, which is probably a pipedream. Like I said >t. more money than sense
>>32720648
Dont know how this ones going to turn out. It's practically NIB though
Bushmaster AR15 A2 for 500, y/n
>>32720794
Or whatever their HBAR m4 style with the fixed carry handle is called
>>32720783
so... price?
>>32720370
>>32720381
>>32720454
>>32720585
damn, I didn't know he was that much of a cuck. Regardless, good riddance.
>>32720794
Yes
>>32720498
>single backup sight
What's your plan exactly
>>32720847
You just gotta feel where your front sight should be
Seriously, I've got a DD fixed front on the way.
>>32720812
How does $400 shipped sound? I still have the original Aimpoint knob mount too, I'd toss it in the box for the hell of it.
>>32720847
crashing this thread
>>32720758
Yep, both eyes open no problem. It's BTFO everything at similar price points that I've messed with, Vortex, Leupold, SWFA etc etc. I've seriously thought about getting another one for the M4A1 instead of the PRO. Glass is great, dot is g2g in bright sun, windage and elevation turrets are good. My only gripe is the red dot control is a little mushy.
>>32720715
Thanks senpai
>>32720816
You have no idea. You should see all the cuck memes, and the pics of his wife.
>>32720887
Sounds great
[email protected]
>>32720926
I drive by Steiner's production plant all the time. I should stop in and see if I can get a discount.
Yes or no senpaitachi
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=410020
>as if i even need an ar
>>32720945
Do it mayne. All they can do is say no. Show them some pics of your rifles and tell them "x" brand has pissed you off and you are looking for a new home.
>>32720954
HBAR kinda sucks but it is fine otherwise.
Go for it.
>>32720972
How much you think that shit is worth anywhere else? I doubt I'd hold onto it long
>>32719987
This is literally the "Woman in SUV making kiss face with starbucks cup in her hand" of AR thread posts
>>32720954
I wouldn't but that's simply because I hate hbar and carry handles
>>32720984
With a beat to fuck finish and not knowing if its pre Clinton or late 2000's production, I cant tell.
Minimum $600 because muh colt, but you could probably flip it for more if it's more than 25 years old.
>>32720138
Equivalent of a bro-truck, it's never been off road even unintentionally.
Completed my new upper today. I took it to Nutnfancy's gunsmith to have the muzzle brake pinned and got it back the same day.
>>32720984
>>32721027
Shit, that's a restricted lower, pre-Clinton era ban.
BUY
>>32721058
Did he point a leaf blower at your face?
>>32721058
>Nutnfancy
did you get gear checked along the way?
Suck my balls
>>32721072
>tfw Nutn will never check my gear
feels pretty good desu that shit is awkward af
>>32720116
Are you liking that scope?
>>32721093
>>32721072
What happens if you fail?
Posting
>>32721058
>have the muzzle brake pinned
What if you change your mind
>>32721025
Nobody hates carry handles
>>32721102
Mmmm yeahhhh suck 'em...
>>32721126
the barrel is 14.5" and i didn't want to do another tax stamp. I also have a Surefire SOCOM in jail right now
>>32720926
I cant wait for my P4Xi to arrive. Fucking cunts at Botach are taking a hot second.
>>32721157
Shit man. Might be a Steiner thing. Took mine forever too. Got a free pmag out of the deal though.
>>32721049
i mean
>>32721093
Dissy!
>>32721104
you don't get to pound it
>>32721181
What if I told you it was a PSA
inb4 "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! NORMIE!!!"
>>32721099
for the price, yea. The BDC turret doesn't mean shit to me since it's for 55gr's and I shoot 75's out of the mk12.
>>32721180
Aeroprecision, noice!
>>32720489
Can't do it right now.
I'll try to get you one tomorrow though if you'll be around
>>32719591
Atf plz go
>>32719998
>normie
Sorry man, getting old does that to you
>>32721215
Mine is a mess of parts from leftover projects and a del-ton barrel.
Only qb will cry, and the circus will follow him shortly after.
>>32721204
what a Dad
>>32721058
pics of fig plox
r8 me familia
>>32721270
armslist/10
>>32721261
Haven't got a chance to mess with that fig yet
>>32721270
inb4 gucci ar fuccboi- fuck too late!
>>32721270
5/10
>>32721270
would possibly benefit from a longer handguard
>>32721303
Why? If he doesn't do the super duper tactical magpul tight pants arm spiraled around the handguard stance it would be dead weight.
>>32721228
>tfw that AR's first (you) in 5 threads went to an impersonator
>>32721328
Dead weight like that magnifier?
It used to be a mock dissy barrel, he could've put a full length handguard on to hide that ugly barrel desu.
>>32721270
>ergo grip
automatic 7 at least, good choice
sup faggots
>>32721270
Not enough expensive coatings or money spent on greeblies, spend more money desu, add more dolls to picture, then the hivemind will like you.
>>32721371
it's garbage in here all the trips are in ts prob
>>32721371
sup nig
>>32721371
Hi fagerino.
Who else watching /barretjackson/ auction?
>>32721371
Not faggy enough and you don't have a trust fund, sorry you lose.
>>32721371
Daddy I've been bad
>>32721303
>>32721328
>>32721341
plan is to get a new barrel next; I've been looking at the hanson ones with a pinned lopro gas block.
Is Psi lurking as anon somewhere?
>>32721431
You are going in the right direction at least.
>>32721436
Psi got BTFO by a DD RIS FSP rail, he is never coming back.
>>32721436
Why?
>>32721431
What's wrong with the one you have?
You could get a nice trigger for the cost of a barrel and get just as much if not more improvement in your groups
>>32721436
hes been banned for a couple weeks. was in TS a bit ago though.
>>32721404
Lol cheap laminate flooring
>>32721478
WAT
Y
>>32721488
Selling goods on here
>>32721479
>laminate
Post floor.
>>32721466
the exposed unpinned gas block makes me antsy that I'm going to fuck it up shooting one day and the taper holes look retarded without the dissipator setup
Guys, I think my gun might be gay...
>>32721488
>>32721497
GC posted his address to some place and Psi posted the address to a gay bar in san bernardino
so he got banned
>>32721497
THAT'S FUCKING GAY
p.s. i have an "f" fsp if anyone wants one, only $20
>>32721509
Your brake is
>>32721518
I got banned for posting a picture
>>32721518
GC got banned for that. And banned for ban evasion. And etc
>>32721540
i got banned for postinga pic of me killing a feral cat. Its easy these days
>>32721534
>>32721509
>tooling marks
wew
>>32721529
No, I'm pretty sure the whole thing is.
>>32721461
question about medic class
>>32721478
gay
>>32721544
GC got banned for being a massive dip shit. But PSI got banned for a couple weeks for saying GC address was a gay bar in CA
>>32721547
Eh, I think they're fine.
>>32721549
You'll fail.
>>32721593
delet thsi
UPS shipping my mount so fast their tracker cant make sense of shit
>>32719913
kys cuckzilla
I hope Trump sends group to come liberate your cuckafornia caliphate soon.
>>32721614
y ftg
>>32721564
Well, Psi deserves the ban. Everyone knows GC lives in the cuck shed
>>32721549
what is your question?
>>32721631
i thought it was funny
>GC went full DR8CO
>>32721633
how many tourniquets do you gauze
>>32721633
Just general tips i guess
seems like everyone fucking hates it, it takes forever, its hard as fuck, and no one makes it through with their gfs / wives
>>32721667
that sounds about right, are you learning drugs?
Tinychat dot com slash kommandochat
Join us 4 AR chatting!
>>32721667
You didn't learn with the first gf?
Dude get your shit together before getting in a serious relationship. Figure your shit out before dragging someone else through your garbage.
>>32721564
Nigga wut? Are you serious? He got banned for that?
>>32721699
sure did
MODs have been pissy as of late.
>>32721667
girls come and go, I know it's easy to get attached to one but you need to attach yourself to a career at your age. Unless she's going to be the one to pay the bills, then tell her to be understanding or fuck off
lol mkultra an atf bitchnigga
>>32721720
That's fucking dumb. I could see if it was his real address obviously, but just a joke like that? Jeez. He's always been one of the better trips in my experience
>>32721725
Yeah, love is the ultimate meme tbhfam
>>32721676
all of the drugs
>>32721696
>first
kek
but that's not the main priority, I just meant it seems like its pretty fucking stressful on you
>>32721725
don't read too much into the girlfriend thing, it was just an example. I'm not too worried about it or too serious with this girl now
>>32721745
love doesn't put food on the table
>>32721737
Posting personal information encourages offline harassment, regardless of whether it's fake.
>>32721759
sure it does bb, me love u long time
>>32721776
hope you like protein shots
>>32721759
Doesn't exist either at least not in the Hollywood since of the word.
>>32721792
really makes you say hmm
>>32721771
>fags are people and we should care
try again kiddo
>>32721771
found the guy doing all the reporting.
Which has a better reset, MBT or SSA-E? The takeup of a milspec is fine by me but the reset makes me want to kms.
>>32721893
I don't have an MBT to compare, but the SSAE resets pretty much where it breaks.
>>32721908
>not paying $500 for an improved milspec trigger
>>32719561
Can some of you guys post tips on making your own foam carry cases? Where do you get the cases?
I'd like mine to hold two rifles and accessories and fit under my bed.
Should I buy a completed psa freedom upper for 320 or buy better upper parts (with free float) for 475 dollars?
I will also need a Bev block and sights because I won't get the rear MBUs and fixed front sight like on the PSA freedom.
Trying to decide for like a month and it doesn't look like PSA will have any better deals on the upper.
>>32721893
I have both and mbt is better
Question:
I'm building a 9mm AR but the barrel diameter where I want to put my sight post is 0.725, not 0.750 like it should be. Will an A1 style sight base clamp onto that snugly or will I have to shim/screw it on?
Pic not mine sadly
>>32721943
Jizzle is coming out with a single stage version of the SSA anyway
>>32721219
I'm currently shooting 77g OTM rounds through my AR, and hating paying for them. How are you liking the performance of the 75s?
>>32721966
Always get nicer component if you can afford it.
This rifle started out as $750 Windham now it's just the receivers and with the scope I have it's about a $2100 rifle
>>32722072
Honda civic pricing syndrome
>>32722072
Actually more than that, and as you can tell I don't even have a suppressor on it and in reality the scope is mid grade
>>32722090
This shit we do is a sickness
>>32722072
It's not that I can't afford it it's that I don't know if it's worth it.
I just shoot steel on my property, pretty much all I can do. I can't decide if the extra is worth it.
150 dollars and then Bev block and sights on top of it can buy me another gun
>>32722104
You're right about the shit part
>>32722094
Also don't even have the trigger I want in it so add another $250
>>32722119
Nice rifle
>>32722128
Thanks, faggot
>>32722137
Anytime
>>32722041
I buy cheap 55's for any shooting and drills within 100 yards but I reload for everything else. I like the 75's but hornady 60gr's have given me the best performance, which is strange since they aren't boat tails
>>32722185
I get about 1moa with the 60's out of my BCM 14.5 mid but 75's work best in the mk12 barrel. been fucking around with 52gr a-max aswell. trying to see if it gets close to mk 318.
>>32722185
Whatever happened to Hornady's 68gr bthp, did they stop making it? I've had pretty good results with the non-moly coated 75gr BTHP match bullets
>>32721893
MBT, confirmed by multiple people on /arg/
>>32722185
Is the 25/300 zero a good one for 56gr xm193 from 16" and 14.5" 1:7
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>>32722226
I just don't see how it's possible to get better. I'm going to give one a try though
>>32722249
I have most every trigger Geissele's made, and I have a second-gen (black) MBT.
I would say that the MBT is better than the SSA, SSF (there's a lot of stuff better than the SSF actually), and SD-C, but doesn't quite match up to the feel of the SSA-E, SD-E, or HSNM.
>I don't have an SD3G or G2S to compare against, only two G triggers I don't own
I have shot a first-gen, silver trigger MBT. I would say it's better than the second-gen. But not by enough to change the rankings.
My biggest reason for rating the MBT below the SSA-E and SD-E are that it's heavier, as measured by an average of 10 pulls with a trigger gauge. Both of my SD-E's and my SSA-E break at EXACTLY the advertised 3.5lbs, whereas my MBT breaks at 3.9 instead of the advertised 3.5.
Reset on the MBT is a little shorter than on the SSA-E, and a little longer than on the SD-E. Takeup on the MBT is longer than both of them, with the SD-E having takeup so short I can't measure it. Still quite reasonable.
I would say the MBT is the clear price:perf winner, but I think the SD-E is the best AR trigger going at the moment.