New pics from the al-Bab front show more Turkish armor destroyed

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and probably captured

>>32715005
>Leopard fags BTFO

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>>32715005
the myth of western vehicle design being focused around crew safety gets more and more BTFO'd every day.

feels fucking good.

>>32715011
This is from an old video. You can see it's the same tank.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkKziaPV8bs

>>32715072
>T-72 or T-90 gets penned, ammo cooks off, throws turret everyone inside vaporized
>Leo or Abrams gets penned, ammo cooks off and vents out the blowout panels, crew escapes with hearing damage and minor burns

10 destrpyed leopards in this war so far

>>32715072

i'm guessing this situation was more of a command problem, ie the tanks were used incorrectly or clanked into some areas that were not cleared first

>>32715005
why not post these photo's on even more threads OP.
it's not like it's unusual to see machines that are designed for war that get destroyed.
name one major weapon system that has seen war, that at least one was not lost in battle?

>>32715072
If you dont use it probaly, it has no proper use, it is that simple. See what i did there? Didnt insult you, didnt whined all day about monkey models, didnt tell it aint true without telling why, etc. That is the vatnik way, that is why they get so much shit handed.

>>32715005
>>32715007
weren't those the ones that the turkroaces let get captured and then blew up with F16s? and why do all arab armies just abandon there damn vehicles it is retarded.

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>>32715091
>>32715100
>>32715113

ITT so far: fans of the western tank design school using the same points made by fans of the soviet tank design school to explain failures of tanks in battle.
except every time those arguments are used to whitewash soviet AFVs, the person arguing gets called a vatnik

kek this is so good.

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>>32715091
>T-72 or T-90
there have been 3 mission kill T-90 in this war so far
none ammo cook off

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>>32715091
The Leo only has blowout panels for the bustle. Ammunition in the hull isn't separated. If it ignites, catastrophic loss.
Moreover, the overpressure and thrown fragments caused by penetration doesn't need to hit an ammo rack to disable a tank or kill its crew.

>>32715089
ahh nice catch

ARMATARD DETECTED
He is a vatnik, who spergs out this way regulary, defends everything russian and is the reason why russians and their friend have such a bad reputation here.
>>32715136

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>>32715091
in OP pic there are no "ammo cooks off and vents out the blowout panels" or "crew escapes with hearing damage and minor burns"

though i agree with you that vatnik are anoy as hell

that should look back at their defeat in Palmyra

>>32715101
>>32715118
These pics are screenshots taken from this new isis propaganda video, there is much more in there(30 mins duration) but i dont have time to upload more https://ia801502.us.archive.org/12/items/DOLTEN/DOLTEN.mp4

>>32715164
would you rather be in a penetrated t90 or penetrated m1a2, honestly?

>>32715177
>>32715118
The Tank in those pictures were bombed by turkish airforce, of course this is not said, because without saying it, there could be made the wrong assumption, which is in direct flavour of the local vatniks.

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>>32715186
I'd not be in a penetrated tank, period.
If you're in a tank that gets penetrated by a Sabot, you're fucked. If you're in a tank penetrated by a HEAT round, you're a bit safer, but still pretty fucked.

>>32715113

>Vatnik way
>when its 100% of the time the US that shit talks Russian tanks

Both sides go full on retard but it was the US posters who started the MUH SUPERIORITY shit. Russian posters never said the T-72 was better than the M1 Abrams and admitted it had flaws. The US sucked it's own cock until the Saudis got some M1s killed which resulted in the EXACT SAME SHIT the Vatniks did with brand new excuses like 'oh if you don't use it right then it's obviously not going to be good' after years of MUH UNKILLABLE ARMOR LOLSHITTYRPGSABRAMSSTRONK.

As an outsider to both sides of the argument I can talk shit about both sides and their attempts to claim any hype not supporting their choice of whatever is either the other or a chinese shitposter.

It's amusing.

>>32715202
Avoiding answer as it was to be expected.

>>32715182
that was sarcasm OP.
you've post plenty enough on different threads, thanks.

>>32715201
But it still shows the incompetence of the Turkish Army
>inb4 angry Turks

>>32715202
cool non answer bro. we both no you'd be better of in the m1a2 and its not even a question.

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>>32715186
neither one

though i don't want to be a M1 gunner
cause he is the last person that can leave the tank

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>>32715211
>when its 100% of the time the US that shit talks Russian tanks
>US posters who started the MUH SUPERIORITY shit.
>Russian posters never said the T-72 was better than the M1 Abrams

>>32715059
>Turkroaches don't know how to use tanks
>Turkroaches place tank on hills as fortified positions
>Turkroaches move tanks into area with buildings without cover
It's the tank's fault.

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>>32715233
>>32715202

>>32715211
>Both sides go full on retard
vatnik 'it is all the same' crap
>US posters who started the MUH SUPERIORITY shit.
US posters dont get angry when someone says their tanks can be killed by stupid operators, from the side or back, etc...
>Russian posters never said the T-72 was better than the M1 Abrams and admitted it had flaws.
But muh T-72B, m-muh ERA,... Also admiting flaws? kek
Dont get me even started with the rest

>As an outsider to both sides of the argument
Sorry, Armatard no one is falling for this one again, since you always pull this in every thread and are so obviously biased. Go be mad somewhere else.

>>32715072
Ok, that made me chuckle a bit.
A bottle of Tpoйнoй for this fine sibirian gentleman, on my tab.Or would you prefer distilled пoлитypa, good sir.

>>32715219
>you said something i dont like
>you must be a turk
>also i must imply somethig else
stay mad vatnik

The Isis propaganda team is 10/10, they should freelance themselves

>>32715005
the americans be like t-72 cocks off so easy ;p lol such hate,now my lil fellas look at this l4 idk series or what i am not expert geting their head blown apart (most t-72s can handle that ) "my opinion merkavas still the best" except they fall from cliffs and shit like dat

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>>32715275
wtf

>>32715297
i talk in general not about this post

>>32715211
>Russian posters never said the T-72 was better than the M1 Abrams and admitted it had flaws. The US sucked it's own c*ck until the Saudis got some M1s killed which resulted in the EXACT SAME SH*T the Vatniks did

So why do the Russiaphile posters constantly argue the fact that the M1 is better than the T-72?

When the M1 is use properally the results speak for themselves, compared with the T-72 used 'properaly'

Also I don't want to meme here but the Saudis did use monkey models, that's a fact.

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>>32715315
fk off ruskies rock

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>Tank thread
>Its a one more vatnik vs fatnik episode

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>>32715072

Bitch please !

>>32715269
Maybe for propaganda, for BDA (stuff that's interesting to /k/) they're garbage

>>32715224
nah i'd rather not be in american-made shit; we all know that its performance in battle is highly exgarrated since 1991

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>>32715325

>>32715325
more like /k/ vs that one vatnik

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>>32715005
>Friends, let us not be hasty in judgement. There could be any number of mitigating circumstances which would preserve the Leopard 2's reputation as a premier MBT. It bears mentioning that no tank is truly invulnerable to weaponry designed to defeat it. And have we considered manner of employment? Surely, tanks poorly directed wouldn't be able to make full use of the Leopard's exceptio...

>*T-72 blows up*
>LOL! T-72 IS UTTER SHIT! VATNIKS FOREVER SILENCED! WHY CAN'T RUSSIA BUILD TANKS WORTH A DAMN?

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Isis new IFV

>>32715354
You'd have a point, if the T-72 performed well anywhere it's been used by anyone. Not even the Russians have a good record with theirs.

>>32715354
I dont know what is worse in vatniks, their constant denial to reality or their constant urge to revionism what actually happened, so they can have an exuse for their shitty behaviour.

>>32715339
out of three
only one tank was hit by ATGM, driver dead, TC lost his leg

>>32715339

>Leclerc
>Got frontally penetrated through the UPPER glacis by an ATGM and results in a KIA

>>32715446
>nato forces.png
That obvious russian butthurt.

>>32715382
As a neutral observer, he's not too far off the mark.

The pro-US shills here are utterly delusional if they think the M1 is invulnerable against a competent enemy.

>>32715434
[Citation Needed]

>>32715382
vatniks don't exist

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>>32715464
>As a neutral observer,
Weeee
Looki Looki
Another neutral observa
And all are se defending thee vadnics
Sooo gread coincidenceh

>>32715369
You'd have a point, if the Leopard 2's performance was substantive in any place or time outside of Syria. With a laughably meager history of service, there's no reason to assume exceptional protection or capability. Especially now.

>>32715459
No it was just to banter the roaches

>>32715482

http://ultimaratio-blog.org/archives/8148

Google Translation:
"On the other hand, a Leclerc would have been definitively neutralized by a direct shot of anti-tank guided missile. The hollow charge would have crossed the front part of the tank at the cockpit killing the pilot and injuring the tank leader in the legs. The model of the missile is not known but in light of the photos of the damage and following the videos posted by the rebels on the fighting around ma'rib one can reasonably think that it is not Kornet but rather AT5 or AT5B Konkurs / Konkurs M"

>>32715510
>says he wants to banter the roaches
>uses nato in name instead of roaches
When i would have drank so much paint thiner as you, it probaly would make sense too.

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>>32715202

>tfw no qt 3.14 to make armor penetrating sabots for you

>>32715500
What does that have to do with the T-72 being shit again?

>>32715500
>there's no reason to
make any assumptions of its
>protection or capability.
through this cases, which would have not been managed better by other tanks in this situation

there i fixed it for you

>>32715542
>what is sarcasm?
It seems the fat has reached your brain mr. Fatnik

>>32715555

The fact that the Leopard 2 was held as the gold standard by tankfags for years despite never having seen combat and in the few weeks that Turkey has been deploying them has seen more losses than the T-90s deployed months ago.

Ofc that doesn't offset the T-72s being shit thing but T-72s have never been a gold standard tank. Even vatniks don't protect them from being called shit.

T-90s on the other hand get defended but given that the weapons floating around Syria have also killed 'amazing' western models? I wouldn't really get on my high horse over any of these 'modern' tanks.

>tfw leo2 is my tankfu and cockroaches are ruining it

so are you fags admitting that the jew tank is the ultimate tank?

>>32715101
>name one major weapon system that has seen war, that at least one was not lost in battle?

B3a bomber has never been downed.

>>32715118
Turks aren't Arab.

>>32715201
source?

>>32715581
>uses fatnik
>uses sarcasm on the internet
i bet you are super smart too

>>32715555
You are arguing the T-72 is shit based on combat record.
The Leo 2 has barely ever been employed. Prior combat was against a beleaguered and hounded Taliban. And now that it has seen extensive combat against even a moderately capable insurgent group, it's seeing losses.
Not a very impressive record, as it stands.
I guess the Leopard 2 is a shit tank. At the very least, the A4 model.

>>32715623
>The fact that the Leopard 2 was held as the gold standard by tankfags for years
Dropped it right there, to hell with vatnik with their constant:
>"i am totaly not a vatnik" vatnik
>but what about <add here random thing that didnt happen this way or to this extend> that totaly justifies what i say
>poor russians, always underdog, always treated bad, but didnd do nuffin, also your mom is a whore
>...

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>>32715672
Yes i am
Pic related

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>>32715751
>tfw smarter than any vatnik

>>32715695
>I guess the Leopard 2 is a shit tank.
Name a tank, from the former named, that would have performed better in that situation. Cant? Maybe that is because those where situations that tanks dont perform well. So you judge a tank despite knowing this, this let us only come to one conclusion:
I guess you are shit at judging tanks.

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>>32715759
>teleports behind you

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>>32715736

>I can't compete so I'll call him a vatnik

Whatever bruv.

You obviously don't understand the point people are making when they say that every tank that got dick sucked prior to Syria has had it's asshole torn out and combat 'superiority' proven to be utter shit by a bunch of ragheads using ATGMs.

>>32715804

You seem to be projecting hard.

>>32715804
>implying you arent a vatnik
>implying we dont see vatnik like you, trying it constantly with the same tour
>implying someone said their tanks are invincible
>implying someone said ATGM to the sides of their tank aint a problem
>implying a tank cant still be superiour to another through this
Are you even trying?

>>32715844

Dont you know? If a model of your tank dies once, ANYWHERE, its now equal to the T-72.

>>32715843
kek

>>32715784
>The T-72 has always performed badly!
>The circumstances of their employment is irrelevant. Combat record is what matters. Those tanks driven through the streets of Chechnya without cover? Proof of a terrible tank.
>The circumstances of the employment of Turkish Leopard 2A4s, however, are of paramount importance. I mean, we all know the Turks don't know how to manage their armor, amirite? The tank is actually great!

Aha. I see.

>>32715834
It is about turning the discussion onto the other side, they are always eager to make made up and exaggerated accusations, so the other side has to justify themself first, before other stuff can be discussed, if disproven or debunked, they just come up with more garbage, since it doesnt matter for them when they are wrong or they made wrong accusations. They are not intersted in the truth, reality or coming to the right conclusions, it is only about "winning" the discussion.

>>32715866
That was never said, but keep on making up stuff, so even the last one gets you are full of shit and must rely on lying.

>>32715866
>M1A2 and Leop have seperated ammo rack in turret
>will of course not perform better in attacks from the top through this or anything

>>32715896
Also better vision, more machine guns, better optics, nightvision,...

>>32715101
F15

>>32715464
The only people who push the invulnerable Abrahams meme are vatniks and euros with a chip on their shoulders about America.