/brg/ Battle Rifle General

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I bought a battle rifle.

>>32710705
if digits saw the barrel down to minimum legal limit with hacksaw

>>32710714
no

>>32710654
Fourth for CETME cocking tubes

>>32710705
Why did you buy a C308? You know Century put that together right?

>>32710749
Not a C308. I'm aware of the problems.

Can we expect for PTRs to drop in price slightly come Trump?
I only recently started looking at BRs, but it was before election was in full swing, and I don't remember them going above 1 grand like they are right now.

>>32710767
Oh, is it one of the old CETMEs? That's pretty much just as bad.

>>32710769
You can find PTRs for around $900.

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>>32710769
They aren't and if you cant afford a ptr for $1k then maybe you should invest in a rifle in a intermediate cartridge like the c93 or something

>>32710782
Whats the best site? Looking primarily at Atlantic, but obviously peeked at Gunbroker/Armslist as well.
It does look like Atlantic just dropped the GI to 960 and have it 30$ off for 930 right now, which isn't too bad, but some other variants are still above the grand mark.

>>32710782
>Oh, is it one of the old CETMEs? That's pretty much just as bad.
Yeah, I know. This one looks great except for the rough cocking tube/charging handle.

>>32710810
It's not that I can't afford it, its that I want to stretch my shekels as far as possible.

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>>32710818
Slickguns.com

>>32710769
You might be able to find used ones cheaper because no black rifle scare.

Where are you seeing them at over 1,000 dollarydoos? They were 850ish before the election at atlantic when they were actually in stock.

>>32710867
Looks like they dropped price on most of them, only the 91fr gucci black furniture variants are above 1k now.
>>32710841
thats useful, but goddamn i forgot how bad the websites are for most gun dealers.

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>>32710654
WHY DID ALL THE 30-06 MAKERS GO FOR PROPRIETARY MAGAZINES EXCEPT COBB???

And then of course Cobb is the best of them and gets bought out by FUCKING BUSHMASTER to do standard AR15 BULLSHIT, and no more awesome stuff.
>like the upper that had its own sidefeeding magazine well
>in 30-06
>worked on virtually any .308 AR
>AR30-06 that used BAR magazines
>all followed common sense AR build style, but had rails

fuck, come back plesas

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Side by side

Anyone got the picture of the poverty prince?

best versatile scope for a .308 AR10 battle rifle with a 16" barrel? Preferably could have a low magnification setting.

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>>32711117
I was thinking maybe this: http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-1-6x-scope-patented-acss-308-reticle-advanced-combined-sighting-system-paps1-6x

>>32711117
Check Primary Arms 1-8x. Trijicon has one coming out too I think.

>>32711125
I like that reticle. I wonder how good it is though.

>>32711126
>Primary Arms 1-8x
Oh that's a nice one, love it. I'm buying it if it goes on sale.

Follow an idea of mine for a sec, ok. So, an AR10 that can, also, have a different bolt thrown in and fire 5.56 and use STANAG mags.

Well?

>>32712075
OR at least a lower that can mount both AR15 and AR10 uppers. And a way to use the STANAG still, of course.

>>32712075
Colt CM901

>>32710921
>A special, and unique snowflake

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>>32711117
Leupold CQBSS

>>32713487
It's not snowflake if it was the one company trying to use as much available industry standards as possible.

>>32713456
>Colt CM901
Anyone own one of these, or use one?

What's the word on them?

>>32714534
Wanting a .30-06 AR is

>>32713456
>>32714542
Does it only use the COLT brand COLT uppers in .308?

Seems like you can use any 5.56 type upper you want, but I can't tell if it can use other .308.

Also, can it fit aftermarket triggers?

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Does anyone here just HATE plastic?

How do you feel about metal SR25, and other AR10-like magazines, even when polymer PLASTIC is the standard?

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>>32714748

>>32714534
>>32714542
>>32714627
>>32714748

being this samefag

>>32714789
>it doesn't benefit me to post with my trip off

>>32714829
>implying im a crossdresser

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>>32714839
>implying implications

>>32714849
Do you have an actual point to make
>or a rifle that you can even post?

>>32714748
You have no idea. I'm not even happy about my Mossman's reciever being aluminum. Yeah, I know, bolt seal steel on steel. Whatever. If I could get a steel one I still would, but I like Mossberg's dual extractors, control scheme, and a few other design choices way too much to buy an old Remington.

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>>32714860
60/40 chance of just posting your mom's creamstuffedpuff.

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>>32714931
Your becoming even less intelligible as the day goes on.

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Would I be able to slap this on an AR10 or does it not just werk like that?

>inb4 cuckifornia
Nah, was just the only pic I could find without the faggy foregrip.

>>32715141
that's fucking gay tho

>>32715141
Yes
Youll need a carbine receiver extension though

>>32715163
Me too thanks.

>>32715165
Cool shit. See you nerds in S P A C E.

>>32715141
It's the gay but also good looking brother of the Ares ACR. Different styles, but a good looking family nonetheless.

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>>32715290
It looks nothing like an Ares/Fitelight SCR

Frankling armory coming out with binary trigger packs for HKs

So, I'm getting conflicting answers on best barrel length for a semi auto .308. It ranges everywhere from 16-26". General use will be sub 1K yards hunting, and I'd like it to be able to consistently hold 2" groups or better. Which makes me think I should go 20". Thoughts?

>>32715444
.308 isnt going to be what I go for over 400. Too much rainbowing. Longer barrels will get you more velocity which will stretch that out, but if you going with .308 over 6.5mm, your not trying to get to a 1000 really.

Barrel length has nothing to do with groups.

What rifle is this for?

>>3271544
>semi auto .308
>1K yards hunting
>2" groups or better
Nope.

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>>32715444
>sub 1K yards hunting
16-18".
>consistently hold 2" groups or better.
I'm assuming you mean 2MOA or better. Barrel length doesn't affect accuracy much beyond a certain length. What matters is rigidity; you want the barrel to flex as little as reasonably possible. A shorter, heavy bull barrel for your purposes.

>>32715485
>>32715518
Barrel is going onto a 308AR build. Decided on 308 over 6.5 because 6.5 seems to shine at longer ranges and I won't be taking a 700+Yd shot.
>>32715506
> Sub 1k yds.
Did you miss the "SUB" part?

>>32714542
I have one, what would you like to know? If you're looking for something to use right out of the box, I'd have no problem recommending one if you could snag it around ~$1,700. For 2k, it really doesn't do anything special to justify the price vs. just building what you want from the get-go. The modular gimmick isn't really something I'm too concerned about, as I have several AR-15 rifles and lowers, as such I haven't even opened the conversion kit.

>>32715302
>Ares/Fitelight
I thought HERRING was the other name for it.

>>32715302
Just like some siblings. What makes them family is skirting bans.

>>32715334
I'm not sure anyone here wants to feel a PTR on anything like auto. An AR has ways to be manageable at least.

Oh all the Battle Rifles, the AR10 was probably the easiest on fullauto. Why was it snubbed by all but based Portugal?

>>32716043
Needed daddy stoner to make it pretty in the SR25

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>>32715444
PTR with 18 inch bull barrel. The rigidity will lend itself to accuracy, plus they're match grade.

>>32715646
999.9 yards is sub 1k.

>>32716101
Can't put appropriate glass with the charging handle for those long shots

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>>32716101
Sorry, looking fornjust a barrel, not a complete gun. Building a big bore AR.

>>32716136
You fucking know what I meant.

>>32716680
http://rifleshooter.com/2014/12/308-winchester-7-62x51mm-nato-barrel-length-versus-velocity-28-to-16-5/

>>32716927
20" is love
20" is life

>>32718072
40 years ago maybe
Everyone is 16" or shorter these days baby

>>32718108
>jumping off a bridge because everyone else is
go for it bro

>>32718517
Thats the best you've got?
No counter argument. Just a tried cliche?

>>32718550
Whats there to misunderstand buddy?

>>32719021
So still nothing?

>>32719071
Nothing is what's between your ears
18" is most common
20" is ideal

If you want a short rifle buy an ak

>>32719153
>most common
In what rifle?

Youd need to go to an 8" .308 to have an equal Mv to a x39 with a 16" bbl

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Anybody interested in this FAL scope mount? I accidentally bought the longer one, but it won't fit because I have a Congo model with the carry handle. It's just the mount and the screws, the little sleeves that go inside to secure it are mine to keep and you'll have to order your own.

Price - Free, nigga

>>32719198
bitch please
do you expect anyone to believe they push the same projectile?

Did the Spanish ever put scopes on their CETMEs? Where can I find some wooden CETME furniture?

>>32721320
You're right, that's for a ~155gr bullet from the .308 and M43 ball for the x39.
Which actually is even worse for the "anything less than a 26" barrel and you might as well be shooting 300 BLK" crowd.

>>32721437
Apex Gun Parts always has CETME furniture in stock, I'd suggest there. And yes, they did put scopes on the CETME. Apex sells those as well.

>>32720910

I'd take it. What's the catch?

>>32722191
You let a dangerous sociopath with a long history of violence and a FAL know where you live.

>>32722191

Basically this - >>32722201

I would like to add that I just ordered the (shorter) scope rail and I won't be needing to keep the sleeves, so I'll send everything you need.

I've sent things to /k/ommandos before. Papalu is probably still using my old Tantal stock on his AK. Sent that to him in like 2012.

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I wish it would snow again.

>>32722316
You must have nice snow days then. All the snow I've been in sucked after day 2.

>>32722293
Any idea how he's doing?

>>32722401

No, I haven't talked with him in a couple of years. I know his name and could probably look him up, but nah.

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i want a fal para

is that bad?

>>32722445
>I know his name and could probably look him up, but nah
I know this feel. Feels good, and bad.

>that Colt AR15/AR10 combo thing weighs 8.4 pounds unloaded in .308 config
>can use ANY AR15 upper, but only the 901 series of .308 uppers.
>there isn't alot of variety in those .308 uppers
Help me please.

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This thing?

>>32722293
>>32720910
Free? I want it, buckiroo. shoot me an email at [email protected] and we can work our shipment and everything

>>32722874

Sent, homie. My name's Adam, as you'll see by my email. Just don't throw my name and email around, please. It's not a throwaway.

>>32722851
The semi models.

>>32722851
Colt 901 with a giggle switch

>>32723317
Can the semi 901s take aftermarket triggers?7

>>32723364
Just check pin diameters and bolt carrier clearance for width.

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>tfw the government and state both eat 3/4's of your fucking tax refund and you can't get the FAL you've dreamed of for years

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>>32724521

>tax refund is taxed

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>>32724521
>Using your tax return as a savings plan

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Should I spend over 2k on modernizing this rifle?

>>32725453
Will it look better?

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>>32725466
It will look like this.

>>32725495
Don't bother.

>>32725495
Can swissfags build an AR10?

>>32725542
>build

As in buying all the parts and then assemble it?

>>32711125
I have a lot of their optics and they are great for the price especially the reticle. One thing I would recommend though is they are coming with a new gen For their 1-6x optics. The dot will be a chevron and they are changing the 3yr warranty to lifetime. So if you are not in a hurry I would say maybe wait until they come out.

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>>32710654
Just made this.

I for some reason always love the AR308

Pls be nice

>>32725944
>Magnifier
For shame

Do you have a can for that brake, or at least plans?

>>32725944
I hate FDE and the magnifier is retarded. Other that that, not bad.

>>32725984
I may or may not know where a lathe and some metal is, so yes.

>>32726018
Fair enough.
If you want to cheap out on optics, try the new PA 1-8

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>>32725996
FDE best color

>>32726123
You need more shades

>>32724171
What are the measurements I should be looking for, helpful anon-kun?

>>32726123
Why do people think this? It is too bright to me.

>>32726052
Primary Arms seems to be coming up in the world.

>to whole thread
Why do we hate magnifiers again?

>>32726123
>50 shades of shit best color
No.

>>32726242
The actual pin diameters for the FCG
The width of the slot in the BCG for the hammer to travel through on its way to hit the firing pin.

>>32726268
They have been the go to for poverty optics for awhile. Good arrangements with whichever Asian country makes them.

And magnifiers are clunky as fuck, and not really all that for making red dots into ACOGs. Especially since low price 1-whatever optics got the glass and turrets to be not awful.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a glass snob, but if your on a budget, there is a way to get a lot of functionality. Magnifiers, this isn't 2010 anymore.

>>32726274
What's your rifle look like anon?

>>32725453
Yes.

>>32710952
What forend and rail is that?

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BATTLE RIFLE?!

>>32710654
So I'm looking into getting my first battle rifle. I found this.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/600569850
What do you guys think? It's barely used with only 2000 rounds through it!

>>32727105
Jesus Christ, that's fucking disgusting.

>>32727037
Too old, but close enough

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>>32727105
That's a special rifle for sure. Someone who has the class to put a McMillan stock/forend on it and that sweet carbine stock must have really put a nice marinetex job on it.

>>32710818
buds has got it for $899

>>32727525
I love how not only is it more than a new one, he thinks 2000+ rounds and chopped into fucking pieces is like new. In what universe does that make it fucking like new?

>>32727653
McMillan stocks aren't cheap. And it has that sweet bipod.

>>32727348
>too old
End yourself

>>32727665
So buy it.

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excuse me kind sir
might you tell me what the best option for an FAL is these days?
I want an L1A1 but can't find one

>>32727983
If you want an l1a1, and CAI abortion grade, put together an offer, post it on FAL files.

If your down with metric, DSA or grab a parts kit quick

>>32725453
no

>>32710654
PTR91: what's the best configuration? I feel like plain old od green basic but I'm wondering if it would be wise to get a version with a real mount do i don't have to get a claw attachment for optics.

>>32727037
Not much of a battle if you can't get the ammo from your supply mole.

Should I trust another gunsmith to finish my FAL's, or finish them myself?
The way I see it, if the gunsmith fucks up, they will probably be able to repair it or compensate me, but I will have to pay out the nose [spoiler]because California[/spoiler]
If I do it myself, it will cost less, but then I have no 'safety net' if I fuck up something, and with where I live it's not like I can easily get any replacement parts- especially quality receivers.

>>32729238
If you are planning on mounting an optic, go ahead and get one with the top rail.

>>32729316
Finish as in assembly or as the exterior coating?

Is the barrel timed and headspaced?

>>32729446
Assembly. The barrels are hand tightened only, but at the proper 11 o'clock position.
Needs to be headspaced, but everything else is okay. Will not be refinishing them, they are a DSA/ Imbel build and the original finish is acceptable.

>>32729503
Sending off to be headspaced might not be a terrible idea. Its a fairly straightforward affair asides from that. Certainly saves the tools needed.

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>>32731261

I want an M1A but I hear M1As are shit.
What other M14 clones are there?
Google insists I want to buy an M1A.

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>>32731752
Ones that aren't shit, or do you just want to live your BHD dreams?

>>32731827
I just want a quality M14 battle rifle. I don't need supermatch trigun fiber glass bed yadda yadda yadda. But since we're over $1500 no matter what I may as well get one that isn't shit. Original wood stock is a must.

>>32731868
/k/ doesnt really like him but Aregularguy90 put 7000 rounds through his M1A Scout Squad. I have a Scout myself and have had it about 4 Months and 600rds through it without an issue.

This might be a stupid question, but should the supply of surplus G3 mags run out, would you choose between SR-25 or FAL mags for a adequate replacement?

>>32732046
Decent new production SR-25 mags exist, so

>>32732046
SR25, because I'd be buying a .308AR.

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>>32732046
There are only two high quality semi automatic .308 rifle magazines currently in production.

SR25 and SCAR 17
Choose accordingly

>>32731998
One of the newer ones or the ones built on old GI receivers?

>>32732165
It being a scout i would assume its a new one.

>>32732156
I like the classic, plain look.

>>32732218
Matchlock?

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>>32710654
can some murrican here explain to a shitty yuropean why there are so many assault rifles designated battle rifles just because of the larger ammunition, they are still meant to be used the exact same way and have the exact same functions and are issued the exact same way. Is it just old system? whats the rationale? Are there any guns that are thought as AR but with the 7.62×51mm and similar?

>>32732372
You got it.
They took battle rifles, made them smaller, kept modernizing them.

Would anyone be interested in buying a port buffer or extended charging handle for a G3 clone?

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Rate my FAL?

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>>32734509

>>32734509
>>32734537
>receiver ribbed for her pleasure
>telescope on top
Bruh.

>>32733334
How much for the extended charging handle?

>>32734744
I think it's like $45 on hkparts so probably like $35 shipped. I never even shot with it, just put it on my rifle and racked it a few times before deciding I liked how the original looked better.

Shoot me an email me at [email protected]. I'm probably going to sleep soon though.

Should it bother me that I could only get an Imbel even though I want an FAL because Rhodesia?

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>>32735083
I've come to learn it only bothers you if it bothers you. People might say it should bother you, but if it doesn't good for you.
I have a S&W 586, no Hillary Hole. Some people say that it should bug me I don't have a Colt Python or Mateba 2006M. It doesn't. If I could exchange it for one of them but never sell or trade it I wouldn't. I like this gun. Now if it had a fucking lock hole, that would bother me. So I got one that doesn't. That doesn't matter to some people, so they just grab a new one and it doesn't bother them one bit. That's all good for them. Some will look down on them but if there's no reason for them personally to care then they are for all intents and purposes on top of the world.
So what bothers you, anon? Anything about the gun or just what someone else might think about it?

>>32735083
Not at all man, be happy with your purchase.

>>32735133
There is nothing about the gun that I don't like. In fact, I really like it. I'm not willing to spend the money to get what I really want, an R1 in mint condition. I will still get a chest rig and maybe even some mags, but I won't paint the rifle because it's not an R1.

>>32729316
>cant get ammo
>what did he mean by this?
It's like 45 cents a rounds senpai.

>>32735083
It should bother you being romantic about Rhodesia though.

>>32714063

how and why is that red dot mounted like that?

>>32737088
It's an offset mount. It's so he can use it for something close or if the scope gets damaged.

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Just ordered one of gunplumber's Imbel FAL kits.

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>>32737088
How : A number of 45 degree offset mounts exist. I like the JP one myself. Its design lends itself to keeping turrets from obscuring the red dot.

Why : If your primary optic is not at a magnification appropriate for shooting at a target that is closer. If your optic goes down,

>>32737147
You done good son. Done good.

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>>32737618
Yeah, I'm really happy. I probably won't get a chance to build it for a while but I wanted to get my hands on a good quality kit. His are a pretty decent price too.

If anyone wants to have a Namibian handguard for their G3 clone, another one has appeared on eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/152404036320

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>>32734547
You don't like it?

>>32710654
Are PTRs capable of being sear hosts?

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>>32739647
Yes; people do it all the time.

>>32739647
>>32739685

If you want to make it a sear host, you have to get a full auto bolt carrier.

>>32739685
Gotta explain the cheek rest on that thing. Look like it would grate the skin terribly.

>>32740180
As far as I know, PTR has started producing full auto bolt carriers

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>>32740180
You can buy a FA bolt carrier. HK fanbois do it all the time for their PoorTRare rifles.

>>32726540
it appears to be the stock ptr tactical for-end and the rail is the rail ptr welds to the rifle

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Why do people dislike the G3, while at the same time aggressively hugging the MP5's nuts, even though they're practically the same gun?

>>32742097
Roller blade blowjob works a lot better with 9 millimemer than 7.62 neato.

>>32742097
I dont like either and think they are both ugly.

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>>32742195
Everybody loves the MP5. You're weird.

>>32742245
Whats to love about it?

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>>32742245
>Everybody loves the MP5
Uzi does it there fella.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvvuXCJyzGc

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>>32742258
It's soft-shooting, accurate, reliable, great-looking, and endorsed by the British SAS.

>>32742321
who knew /k/ had great taste in music?

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>>32742097
People are stupid. Shooting an MP5 is what cemented my desire for a PTR.

>>32742372
>Soft shooting
its a 9mm, what do you expect
>accurate
at distances youd use for 9mm, 4moa would be good enough
>reliable
pretty much every modern design is anon
>great-looking
subjectively false
>Endorsed by SAS
...oh

Subguns were great seventy years ago, fuck trying to clear a building with a bolt action rifle.

Im not living seventy years ago, or even in the seventies.

>>32742475
Then why are you in /brg/?

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>>32742491
I am not an old school conservationist

>>32742518
>7.62 NATO
>anything but old school

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>>32742542
If it makes you feel better, im probably going to get a 6.5 creedmoor barrel for both rifles this year.

Well I have one I could on the MWS, but id need a new upper to use it.

>>32742321
Wtf I love gbc now! 4real

I'm getting a chink M1A soon and would like to know what's a good cheap 1-4x scope for it?

Could I get work done to the PROPRIETARY .308 COLT 901 upper to make it less shit? Like a better barrel? 2hvy4me

>>32742725
Trijicon TR24G

>>32742792
Adco could probably figure something out.
https://www.adcofirearms.com/shopservices/shop_qnew2016.cfm?code=Contour%20Barrel

>>32742792
Throw the whole rifle out and get a small frame .308ar

>>32742799

900$ is real cheap.

>>32727983
if you go to DSA, I believe they offer an inch pattern receiver, and you can build off an L1A1 parts kit if you can find one.
>reminder: NO SAFETY SEAR.

>>32742961
>Finding an l1a1 parts kit

>>32742986
I suppose you're right, though I DID see one around for about $165 in the past month. >>32727983
https://dsarms.com/p-16040-dsa-fal-sa58-forged-british-pattern-l1a1-carry-handle-cut-receiver-762x51mm.aspx
link to the receiver my dear chum, TALLY HO, LAD!

>>32727983
https://www.armslist.com/posts/5375280/phoenix-arizona-gun-parts-want-to-buy--fal-or-l1a1-parts-kit
Here's an L1A1 kit>>32742986
SUCK IT

>>32743004
>FAL parts kit
>let alone L1A1
>$165

This isnt 2005 anymore man

If you passed that up, you lost out

>>32743045
Thats a want to buy ad
Your trying to hard

>>32743045
That's a "Want to buy" listing...

>>32742919
That can't also shoot 5.56 and use ANY AR15 upper though...

>>32726321
>you have to own a gun to like/dislike a color

>>32743067
>>32743071
I don't know how that works. I'm guessing someone puts out a solicitation for what they want and waits for someone who has one to try and meet it? also... 2005? I wasn't even shooting in 2005. what glory did I miss out on? I remember buying ammo for my AR-15 in 2011 when I got it, and paying like ten bucks for two boxes. Fucking good old days, man!

>>32743112
So your having to change out the upper, insert an adapter into it, change out the buffer.

Why not just get a .308 AR and a .223 AR at that point?

>>32743132
Well, in like 2003 you missed out on Dan's Ammo $89 parts kits. Mostly beater rhodie crap.

Recievers were like $250, all forged, cast were like $200

FAL mags were $4

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Do the railed dust covers for fals hold a good zero? i know the railed dust covers for aks don't hold zero but the recoil spring isn't against the dust cover on fals so i imagine it'd be different. Any one have good/bad experience with them?

Thanks

>>32743233
The DSA ones good

If you can find an old grenadier one, those were probably the highest refinement of the concept

As bad as most of their stuff is, the ARMS mount actually is fairly decent.

>>32743612
If you're indecisive, you'll be able to make the AR10 into a better rifle. The HK91 will be a good rifle but will be more fun to shoot.

>>32743146
I'm glad you asked; the value in all of this is multifaceted, but a major advantage is being able to funnel dosh into ONE lower and then be able to use that investment in more calibers. I've already found partial lowers with no buttstock or trigger group. You could possibly even do a "pistol" setup, though I won't.

You may very well still cycle 5.56 with the heavier tube too, people in /arg/ run crazy heavy ones.

>>32744077
Depends where your gas system is at.
But how much money are you going to "pour" into a lower. Its a lower.

Id rather have a better .308 barrel than what colt makes. Not have to use adapters.

I get the allure of the 901, when I found out about it, I was doing just what your doing. But there is no do everything rifle.

>>32744150
You're not really saying what's wrong with it.

>>32744203
That your going to have an inferior .308 and a heavy .223 gun.

Your going to have unique small parts, that are required for the conversion. I couldn't find the adapter plates for sale by themselves, and colt isnt exactly in a stable place right now economically.

Its an interesting idea, that has merit, but its not refined enough to really use at the moment, imo

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Do the 30- and 40- round G3 extendo clips made by PTR function reliably?

>>32744281
ghetto as shit

>>32744248
Adapter plates?? You mean the well insert that is literally a solid block of aluminum?

>>32744281
The reviews on the site are good. The "These are also guaranteed to work 100% by PTR," is pretty lulzy though.

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>>32744303
Its not a block, that would be silly.

And its more of a concern for getting misplaced than broken. They are for sale, $200

>>32744248
What unique small parts?

>>32744329
Sauce

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>>32744363
pic related is the full picture

This is the adapter kit
https://www.natchezss.com/le901-adapter-block-conversion-kit.html

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I missed the /brg/ autism over this during SHOT, was it ..autistic?

Any word on release, weight, or price?

>>32745212
I don't think anyone even mentioned it here. It's DSA, who cares?

>>32745212
The titanium parts? Supposedly last year
The stock? Who knows, you can get an ACR stock adapter today though

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What is the length and diameter of this little step in front of the PTR-91's front sight tower?

>>32745367
>You don't have a caliper?

>>32745231
No the whole rifle
Is that handguard already available?

>>32745604
Theirs, no
Others have come to market with mlok.

DSA isn't really good at keeping time frames. But they tend not to screw the pooch completely.

>>32745519
I don't have a PTR-91.

>>32745674
thanks
want a FAL but the HPA soon passing makes me want a .300 memeout upper and can instead

>tfw battle rifles are dead and never coming back

>>32745778
A word of advice.
If the HPA passes, good quality cans will be what .22 ammo was four years ago. If you want a model that mounts to a nice brake, buy it now. Pay the tax. The HPA had provisions to refund that

>>32745778
>instead
>not suppressing all the things

>>32710831
They won't get cheaper because they're at a market low right now. C308's are $599, and retailers grabbed a lot of stock ready for election panic buyers. PTR is $899.

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>>32727037
Mine is here tomorrow. It is my day off but I have an appointment for the DMV at 2.

>>32725787
I have the current 1-6x I just read that and thought, well shit.

It is a nice optic though, have only shot with it once/twice. Look forward to taking it to the range again. I like the fact that with an etched reticle it'll work with/without power.

Can someone explain why DSA's FALs have a $600 price difference, why is the cheapest $1200 while the higher end ones are $1800? Whats the difference? (I'm not talking about the para models vs the full stocks, I'm talking about the full size vs the high end full size)

>>32745778
>>32745870
If the HPA passes will building your own suppressor be legal like an 80% lower?

>>32747248
Different quality receivers.

>>32747844
A slightly better receiver is worth $600 more? Is it even a noticeable difference?

>>32747894
Cast versus forged. Forged would be a better idea if you're looking for a high round count. But realistically you'd be replacing the barrel first (unless there was a bad casting).

What kind of groupings/accuracy you get from FAL in about 500 yards?

>>32747938
And seeing as how DSA is high quality the odds of getting a bad cast are basically nonexistent I'd imagine?

>>32747944
I'd say you're good. They're still solid and not exactly cheap.

>>32747961
Is there any way to get a para model for $1200 or less?

>>32747433
In its current form, yes.
You could build a shitty can from home depot. I'd rather get something nice though

>>32747944
Modern cast is better than forged from the 90s

>>32747943
5-8" is about the best if you use the best of everything.
8-12" is going to be more typical of a nice build
12-15" is going to be more typical of a meh build

>>32747975
If you can find a cheap FAL and get this, yes
https://www.dsarms.com/p-12747-fal-sa58-para-conversion-kit-includes-stock-lower-trigger-frame-para-carrier-nose-cut-para-top-cover-springs-and-para-sight.aspx

Are HK91s that much better than PTR91s or is it just muh HK you suck and we hate you tax?

>>32748613
It keep it near $1200 I'd need to find a $800 FAL and there are none of those to my knowledge, the cheapest I know of are $1200 DSA ones and maybe $1000 if you did a super cheap parts kit build.

>>32748622
To my knowledge they might be slightly higher quality but not by any enormous margin, its the collectors value more than anything.

>>32748649
Para commands a premium

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Hello BRG, how is everyone's morning?

>>32748724
Heading to work, ugh

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>>32748809
Have a good day at work. Still banging shit out this morning in preparation of school.

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>>32748622
They are better, but back before they were banned they only cost as much as the PTR91s do now. The current price trend is because they've been banned from import for 25 years and become collectable.

I was thinking (completely hypothetically) a good battle rifle may be the ideal civilian rifle for SHTF/civil war/other shit/violent LARPing. Considering how you dont have the ammo supplies of an army you need to make few precise shots, might as well make them hit harder. Not to mention a civvie doesnt have air support so having a .308 will allow you to reach out further.

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>>32749295
In true SHTF fashion, I would grab only my ar.

With my AR I can take everything from pheasants to elk. I can carry more ammo. It's lighter and less encumbering on those 30+ mile days into the wilderness. I can make more accurate shots from any position other than prone enough to off set the accuracy gained. Any shot over 500 meters would ultimately be unnecessary as I could sneak closer or escape. With all these trade offs the only thing I'm giving up is: humane kills on large game, instead of 500 meters I could now reach out to 600-700 meters, but my skill is ultimately going to be the limited factor between that.

>I feel like an AR fag shitposting in an AK thread.

However I would love to hear some other advantages I would have missed?

Is the UTG 3 point scopeount for the M1A adequate or complete shit?

>>32744281
i've got a 30 round weld together mag and a 30 round south african and i've had more issues with the south african so yeah. bare in mind, the most important part of a mag in terms of reliability in a semi auto is the spring and as long as the spring is new it should be fine.

>>32749535
With what ammo?

>>32750486
Like I'm out of ammo? Or which ammo would I use? Fmj all day if that's what you're asking and with the ammo sitting in my gun room if that's what you're asking. Admittedly I don't have any stockpiled and only have a few hundred rounds.

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>>32749535
>carry twice as much ammo
>need twice as much ammo
.308 is where muh ONE SHOT STOP rifle stats start. Could be because people always double tap 5.56 just in case but that's conjecture.
Reaching out and touching is important in SOME areas. Mostly places like Wyoming where you can't very well sneak across open plains and running away just makes you die tired.
Of course then the guy with a .50 is god, but he's lugging a 30lb rifle. So really it's all about what tradeoffs (You) are willing to make, as usual.

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>>32750659
You think your going to get humane shots, on elk, with .223, using FMJ ammo, at 500 yards?

>>32737147
Was it one of these?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Item/615655238

>>32749535
Better barrier penetration.

>>32749535
With empty fields around where I live you're SOL when trying to advance, so best to to have the greater range.

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>>32722484
i know that feel

>>32727037
yes

>tfw want a battle rifle but there is no where to shoot near you and you're saving up for a car

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>>32753132
Yeah, that was it. I got the bipod cut barrel.

>>32753877
Oh look, Wirty

How shitty are claw mounts, really?

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>>32754144
they can compress the receiver and fuck with the bcg

>>32753895
You can get a car for the price of a non-shit BR

>>32754214
Wow, that's pretty shitty, although not terribly surprising in hindsight.

>>32745870
>If the HPA passes, good quality cans will be what .22 ammo was four years ago
So the question is, do I go into the suppressor manufacturing business?

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>>32754461
Im assuming you have no manufacturing or business experience, so no.

>>32754296
Well I have a grand saved up but I can't find anything that runs good in that range. I need it for pizza delivery.

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>>32754588
get a motorcycle

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>Get sig brace
>need to pull off the pistol tube on my PTR91 pistol
>fucking god damn thing won't unscrew

What the fuck am I doing wrong I just want to take the tube off REEEE

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>>32755159
Have you tried turning it off and then turning it back on?

>>32755199
Fuck you now is not the time for jokes

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>>32754859
>mfw I have a fun bike but want a fun car like a Miata, ae86, or supra

not mine, but same model

>>32755159
is it staked?

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>>32755283
Miata was a lot of fun, drove a few into the ground. In Vegas, they go for under 1k, but they're pretty beat. Enjoying a jeep now, better for the desert.

>>32755337
>desert
sounds awful

>>32755159
Do you own a castle nut wrench?

>>32755319
Nope.

I'm seriously confused.

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>>32755337
my DD is an 04 Honda CRV, and ive wanted a wrangler for shits and giggles for a while. ive just gotta get a better paying or another job and stay away from money pits like women before I have my little collection of 80s and 90s gook cars.

I wanted to get into skeet, trap, cowboy and long range shooting, so im trying to decide if a car or guns will make me happier and what ill spend more time with.

>>32755385
I do, I tugged at it hard as fuck and nothing. I might just need to brace it down but fuck, it should have come loose by now.

>>32755402
Then it probably peened to the backplate. Might need to coax the peens out with a hacksaw

>yes, I unironically used peens

>>32755413
Kill me

>>32755440
This is why built rifles all wear UBRs

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Can AR10s look good?
Show me an AR10 that outsexes a FAL/G3 (whichever of the two you prefer aesthetically).

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>>32755854
Depends what your looking for

>>32755854
Absolutely, just like an AR-15s look good.

An AR-10 that's a bit bigger would look great.

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>>32755854
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

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>>32755854
How can ARs even compete?

New thread:
>>32756179
>>32756179
>>32756179

Dropped off my stg58 kit and coonan receiver at my builder today. First rifle build so pretty excited

>>32755854
The Portuguese AR10
>those cheeky fuckers made and sold FALs, G3s, and had the AR10 as their service rifle

>>32753164
Damn, didn't even think of that. That's a rather big point.

>>32752969
Humane kills are for happy times. I'd kill an elephant with my AR if I was hungry.

>>32753345
What exactly is the range you're getting over muh basic bitch AR realistically?


>Playing devil's advocate is feeling a lot like shit posting.

>>32756826
Anonymister this thread is kill desu.