So I read an article( image related; article at http://www.popsci.com/china-sharp-sword-lijian-stealth-drone?src=SOC&dom=fb ) regarding China's new stealth bomber. It is unmanned, carries over 4k in payload and there is talk of the possibility of both cargo and naval-friendly variants being produced. Is there any potential here and what do we think of the bomber by itself?
>>32706556
I see they managed to copy and make a working model of the X-47.
>>32706556
So it's a ripoff of the X-47B, whoop-de-doo
The Sharp Sword is under developement for 3-4 years. Nothing new.
New articles only were released because the design bureau was apparently awarded with some project that might be a follow on, or a production type of that drone.
China does indeed need those stealth drones to destroy THAAD.
>>32706828
Why have Americans abandoned good taste in aircraft design?
>muh form follows function
That's not an excuse for ugly equipment.
>>32706828
>only america's is a bloated fat pig
kek
"stealth", lmao
>>32706849
It doesn't matter how ugly it is if the radar can't see it.
>>32706879
Frontal and side aspect stealth
>fly towards target undetected
>launch all missiles/drop all ordinance
>turn around and leave at max speeed, showing rear radar profile as a fuck you to the guys theyve just bombed
>>32706879
suppossedly, the 2nd prototype that has flown last year uses a non-afterburning variant of the engine with nozzles removed.
Afterburning engines on these types of drones is not very useful.
>>32706908
Thank you for at least making it obvious that you have no knowledge of this subject, rather than dragging it out
>>32706920
And yes, China knows about stealth shaped nozzles for their combat drones well.
Just for the Sharp Sword prototype they didnt do that.
>>32706947
That isn't a "combat drone".
>>32706883
It doesn't matter how well it hides from radar if it's so ugly that it demoralizes every American unfortunate enough to see it.
>>32706977
It is.
It's the PLA's own variant of the Cloud Shadow.
>>32706993
Mmm.. "stealthy"...
>>32707024
Export variant, again.
PLA's own variant has dual stealth nozzles.
Will Chinese military hardware ever stop being a meme?
EA-03 Soaring Dragon UAV is in service!
>>32707073
>Currently EA-03 is in production at GAAC and has entered the service with PLAN as a HALE ELINT UAV.
Captcha: Carlisle Rocks
>>32707041
Dual nozzles for a single engine, huh?
Try again xiao
>>32707073
nice photoshop
>>32707099
>The latest images (December 2014) indicated that a new UAV (Wind Shadow) was undergoing taxiing test at CAC. It features a dorsal engine compartment with two small engine exhausts to reduce IR and radar signatures. The engine is thought to be two 500kg class WS-500 turbofans.
>>32707101
leaker doesnt want to be invited for tea.
leaking the UAV is OK, but leaking the surrounding is not.
>>32707070
Triple 70s checked.
Also no, at least, not for the foreseeable future.
>>32706982
Being so sensitive that if your equipment isn't pretty enough you won't want to fight is not a problem the US military faces.
And this big guy should soon be in service as well...
>>32707070
Hopefully, the USA will keep thinking that until we finish up with Taiwan...
>>32707184
Huge wingspan.
Larger than the Global Hawk.
Will be China's unmanned E-2D equivalent - but for extremely high near-space altitudes.
>>32707136
>chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/uav.html
stop it anon, you're killing me
>>32707179
Troops demoralized by ugly equipment take less pride in their work.
>>32707202
No one can out meme Iran. That said, I think the audience this photo was domestic.
>>32707236
Literally the most reliable source on Chinese military aviation. An aggregator site of all past leaks and infos. Even Jane's steals from them.
>>32707225
>Will be China's unmanned E-2D equivalent
Yeah.
No.
>>32707252
>Literally the most reliable source on Chinese military aviation
Which says a lot
>>32706849
beauty is in the eye of the beholder
and
form follows function, like it or not
you're beholding it wrong, loser.
Why does everything in China look so shitty and busted? I'm not talking about the drone, I'm talking about the buildings, etc.
>>32707253
It is.
Equipped with VHF-AESAs all around the twin-body airframe, as well as ELINT systems, it will serve as China's counter-stealth near-space altitude radar system.
The twin-body design was literally chosen for mounting as many radars on that drone as possible. In any other role, it would be a prohibitively heavy and draggy design.
so whose tech did the slopes copy? we all know the yellow horde can't innovate.
>>32707250
The Q-313's a joke, but as far as I know, they've got half-decent ballistic missiles.
>>32707323
No, it isn't.
But you're doing a good job of making me laugh, anon. Its an ELINT platform, sure. Not an E-2D equivalent. Thats hilarious.
>>32707326
If China cant innovate, why was it China who sent humanity's first quantum communication satellite to space, and not the white man?
>>32707338
It's a radar bird. An unmanned AWACS.
Officially published papers with an earlier design, twin-body as well, literally confirmed it.
Jane's article safed before taken down:
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/janes-images-emerge-of-new-chinese-twin-fuselage-hale-uav-concept.68225/.
>>32707361
>quantum communication
Doesn't work like that, chang.
>>32707402
Show me an American/White Man's attempt please.
You lost.
Deal with it.
>>32707418
Quantum encryption? Idk, google it. Oh wait...
New hypersonic drone project.
http://www.popsci.com/chinese-hypersonic-engine-wins-award-reshapes-speed-race
>>32707393
and I'm sure it has the power in those piddly little antennas and engine to perform the same function, anon.
>>32707474
Maiden fligth in 2015.
The basis for a future unmanned reusable hypersonic strike weapon.
>>32707489
The fuselage has pretty big fairings to house the large meterwave AESAs.
The Global Hawk BAMS does similiar with a even narrower body. AESA panels do not need that much space, even those in the meter-band - which is why the Russians could house their powerful L-band arrays inside the wing leading edges of the Su-35, after all.
>>32707474
>>32707497
missiles bork it all the same, not exactly easy to hide
>>32707526
Fat cheek made with dielectric material related.
China Strong!
>>32706920
On a ramp carrier they are very useful.
>>32707526
>powerful Lband radar
Annnnddd discarded.
>>32707608
Point remains.
Pic related; this small fairing is all you need as space for mounting a powerful AESA radar.
And the Divine Eagle's entire twin-body fuselages offers more space for that.
>>32707650
You mean the ground-scanning SAR radar.
>>32707320
Something about how they can't own land only rent it so they do a shitty job since there's no point in building something that lasts.
>>32707719
Yes. A pretty powerful piece of hardware, with radar-surface size larger than an usual fighter radar.
In fact, the E-2C/D's radars are mere seven meters long and a few cm high 'thin bars' inside the rotordome.
The fuselage of the Divine Eagle is 13m long and offers at least 9-10 meters long a meter high useful radar-space.
>>32707361
Funny that it hasn't even been proven and you're puffing up your chest about it lol.
A lot of Yuan has been deposited because of this thread.
>>32706849
>muh form follows function
>That's not an excuse for ugly equipment.
Functional equipment is never ugly.
>>32706556
>>32706556
This is clearly not a shill thread and you stupid cunts still can't control yourselves. What is it with the burger inferiority complex?
>>32709957
Ching chang ding dong yap!!!!
It's cute when third-worlders try to make a case that they can produce anything of quality. Especially when they go cheap, take short cuts, and don't really understand that even if their hardware, designs, and quality control was half decent they still have to solve the doctrine, training, and logistics side of things.
But let's not worry about that. Instead, let's worry about where the fuck the fried dumplings are. Back to the kitchen Charlie Chan. That fried rice won't make itself will it?
>>32706862
Except the US one is also the best aerodynamic formula for a a lifting diamond shaped body. Also, the X-47 is a carrier borne drone... Which means folding wings.
Take this from a nationalistic frog.
>>32706556
>It is unmanned
Figured with that large of a population they'd at least have someone competent enough to pilot a machine. Definitely something off about it if they can't put a person in it. Most likely will end up falling out of the sky on it's own.
Their not too creative with their designs are they?
>>32710805
Since creativity cant be copied, no
>>32706925
they are chinese, if it's angular it's stealth, just look at the numerous previous posts where shit with a fuckton of antennas and other shit on top was """Stealth""" because some fucking part of it was angular
>>32710672
remember they're asian
they have crazy reaction times and are good at math
>>32706925
He's joking, you dumb cunt
>>32707225
>Unmanned HALE AWACS
Trust me, ours is better.
>be China
>design Prototype BingBing
>claim it can do everything better than everything
>"ok let's see it in action."
>provide youtube video of CG anime battle as demonstration of prototype's capabalities
>"that's not what we me-"
>LOL AMERIFATS BTFO
>"but I'm British."
>show off Prototype DingDing which has more fantastic features so people stop asking about BingBing
>rinse, eat dog and repeat
God dammit China, if you really have all this cool shit then use it on India for some field testing.
Drones can't be as stealthy as manned jets. The reason why is that drones need to continually emit a strong radio signal.
>>32706556
china doesn't have technologically advanced facilities in where they would begin mass production of stealth fighters
>>32713590
Hue hue hue
>>32713441
it honestly reminds me of how the chinks are claiming that their type 99A's gun has more penetrative power than the armata or how their new light tank is better armored than the t-90am's
>>32706556
So chinese copy of Northrop drone?
What innovation
ITT: people who failed high school algebra talk shit on a country where even 4th graders can perform at an American high school level
Yes, China can build this shit because their populace can generally compute their way out of a paper bag unlike most Americans who boast of our technological superiority yet contribute nothing to moving us forward.
t. angry engineer in the defense industry
>>32715495
Lies on the internet will turn your palms hairy
>>32715511
It's true, you dimwit. Half of the fucking engineers at my company are Asian.
In our schools, it's cool to fail math and science courses because getting that sweet sports scholarship is more important. That's why we're getting fucked by other nations in education rankings and we have to rely on fucking immigrants to do the heavy lifting for us. It's a fucking disgrace.
300mm Ku-Band AESA unweiled.
Coincidentially, China's new monster air-to-air missile has a diameter of some 300+mm...
>>32715535
The meme-missile in question.
>>32715547
Which seems to be in service now, judging its appearance during a major confrontational excercise.
>>32715495
Oh, do you work at Norinco?
I love how /k/ always talks up the US but as some own currently serving I hear almost not stop working in the communications field how the US is out of practice fighting a near-peer adversery and precisely underestimating them, especially they emerging capabilities is a recipe for disaster. We should low-ball the Chunks but take into account the potential for fighting an adversary who has been examining how we fight incredibly closely for damn-near half a century.
>>32706556
>China's new unmanned Stealthbomber
What kind of shit is this? when they were making the F-117, B2 or F-22 knowledge of those programs even existing was highly classified. why can't the chinks keep their projects secret?
>>32716020
>why can't the chinks keep their projects secret?
Its entirely on purpose, anon. Come the fuck on.
You think a country that does this
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6bb_1413419860
would allow well known blogs to freely operate unless they were giving out pre-approved information?
>>32716105
>Its entirely on purpose, anon. Come the fuck on.
explain the purpose to me then? shitty hodge podge gear based on russian jets with cardboard, sheetmetal and clay overlays?
>>32716137
not him but its clear that they try to pain some image of them catching up to the Americans in therms of tech.
Reality is that they simply dont have the experience waging modern wars like America has be that lost or won ones.
>>32715827
>I love how weibo always talks up China but as some own currently serving I hear almost not stop working in the communications field how the PLA is out of practice fighting a near-peer adversery and precisely underestimating them, especially they emerging capabilities is a recipe for disaster. We should low-ball the fatniks but take into account the potential for fighting an adversary who has been examining how we fight incredibly closely for damn-near half a century
>>32715495
Yes, China can build this shit because their populace can generally compute their way out of a paper bag unlike most Americans who boast of our technological superiority yet contribute nothing to moving us forward.Do the chinese?please explain how the US technological superiority is not contributing to moving us forward?
When the Dongfeng hit you.
Aftermath of a inert warhead hit against a target ship.
First ever leaked picture.
>>32716513
truly a revealing image
>>32706879
>>32707024
If round exhaust ports = No Stealth
Does that mean that the F-35 is not stealthy?
>>32716858
The F-35's exhaust is not round.
>>32716513
this kills the carrier.
>>32716513
looks burnt and the plates seem molten.
confirms that jet-fuel indeed can melt steel beams.
>>32716891
It's not square or flat.
>>32713441
someone screencap this
>>32716952
Its sawtooth
>>32706879
So the F-35?
Also, old variant
>>32717073
the ending tip is yes, the nozzle is still round.