>3 Machineguns How many machineguns is enough for a modern MBT?

>>32701520
There is no such thing as enough dakka

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>>32701520
You sounds like a faggot, OP. Are you a faggot?

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>>32701546
this, all the time.

>>32701572
Does it have 4 or is the .50 replacing the coaxial(covered by ERA?)?

>>32701596
It still has its coax.

>>32701572
You're projecting.

I didn't say it was wrong, I wanted to know how many was enough.

>>32701520

A single .50 Any more and you're really not using the tank right.

How useful is the CSAMM? Or is it just for when you can't use the cannon because people would get angry?

>>32701656
Gives more things the gunner can play with.

When the main gun is overkill and the coax is not enough or lack power.

>>32701520
> How many machineguns is enough for a modern MBT?
All of them. Then add some more, just in case.

what was that retarded soviet heavy tank that had like 20 machine guns with a bunch being fixed forward ones like the tank was supposed to strafe and do vidya game shit?

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>>32702135
You're probably referring to the IS-7, a prototype heavy tank from the late '40s.

>1x pintle mounted KPV-44
>1x coaxial KPV-44 mounted above the barrel
>2x coaxial RP-46 on either side of the barrel
>2x fixed forward RP-46 on hull
>2x fixed rearward RP-46 on turret

I, for one, enjoy the idea of eight MGs hosing down everything that moves as you advance on a fortification.

>>32702242
Still less guns than the M2 Medium Tank.

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>>32701520
>Modern MBT
>M1 Abrams
Choose 1.

Why did so many WWII tanks have hull machineguns? Seems like a waste to me

>>32702368
Because there was no IFVs.
Tanks provided fire support as primary purpose. Tank to tank engagements largely starred specialized tank destroyers.

>>32701520
3:
1. 7.62mm coax.
2. 12.7-14.5mm external coax.
3. 7.62mm MG in remote weapon station.

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>>32702328
As a fan of the M60A2 and Mk2 Merkava I'm really liking this thing.

>>32702368
>Why did so many WWII tanks have hull machineguns?
Because they had dedicated radio operator. So to save him from boredoom they gave him machinegun.

>>32702135
Original T-54s also had a pair of hull mounted MGs. No idea why anyone thought they were a good idea.

>>32702423
kek

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>>32702368
Accuracy. Stabilization wasn´t a thing back then and stopping whenever you encountered some infantry just wasn´t an option.

>>32701546
>fpbp
holy shit

>>32702368
>>32702509
they were still learning how to design tanks back then. The centurion and the is3 immediately after v-e day were the first tanks to ditch the hull machine gun.

>>32702303
7x M1919's, 9x if you include the optional pinter mounts. So one more MG, technically, but they're all .30cal. I'd argue that the IS-7 had a more ridiculous volume of fire.

Why is the MK19 not on the Abrams? The jamming?

>>32701546
this

the real question is which to paint red and which to paint up yellow or checkerboard

>>32701520
Probably better to have more ammo for one or two than have not enough ammo for 3

>>32701645
Three is a good number. Tanks have a limited range of vision so whoever can, should shoot.

>>32704417
That and the size of ammo. Nothing says a good idea like explosive ammo tacked on with your supplies and ammo.

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>>32701546

>>32702328
>>32702409
The more i look at it, the more i see a leclerc wannabe.

>>32704417
>no stowage space for belts of grenades
>leave them lying around the turret in dry stowage racks
>take hit, grenades cook off
>your face is now the blowout panel

It's that, or only ever leave the wire with a single belt loaded which is kind of dumb.

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>>32701546
never enough dakka

>>32701596
The .50 replaces the coaxial
>32701620
The mk4 ditched the regular coaxial for the overhead .50. There wasn't enough space internally after upgunning to the 120mm cannon.

>>32702242
LMG, MOUNTED AND LOADED

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>>32705237
Never.

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>>32705430
Never ever.

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>>32705237
>>32705430

>>32701572
>Palestinian little league

>>32701520
You want at least two. A single coaxial machinegun controlled by the gunner, and then something for the commander to shoot on top of the vehicle. That's your bare minimum.

In the case you have a human being doing the loading, you might as well give him a machinegun. Doesn't really hurt.

A second coax might be added if the different caliber might give you different capabilities than your main gun and regular coax provides.

So in general, I'd say two is plenty for most tanks and tasks.

>>32706302
>Doesn't really hurt.
But it actually does. Stacking crap on turret roof impedes field of view for commander panoramic sight.

>>32703873
Also the T-44

>>32706453
Depends on the placement of the sight and gun.

>>32706527
>>32701636

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>>32705246
Bullshit. All Merkavas have a coax FN MAG.
The .50 started as a training aid (simulating main gun fire) but was retained for combat use as it turns out a fiddycal is a good solution to a lot of problems. This was back in the days of the Magach. Merkavas also use it cause it's effective.

>>32702328
>Muh K2
How many did they make? Like 5?

>>32706603
They calculated the production to counter the whole North Korean armored forces.
So they made 12

>>32706569
I'm saying that there is nothing intrinsic about it

>>32706704
Kek