This really happened.

What from?

B A S E D G I B S O N

>>32691761
>This really happened.
It was probably taken wildly out of context for movie's sake.

>>32691761
Wield BAR one hand
Fuck the dead with the other

First i pick the dead, then i kill with lead.

>>32691761
Movie?

>>32691776
>>32691867

Le Ridge de Hacksaw

ebin kino

>>32691761
The Japs jumped out of cover so they could be cinematically shot by a GI. walking forwards with a BAR?

>>32692109
>walking forwards with a BAR
As intended

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>>32691761

Jesus. Why did they all start making these new war films so grotesquely violent? And it's not even realistic combat violence. It's just stupid.

Fury comes to mind forcing the grim dark war meme.

>200 pound corpse
>30 pound gun
>human shield actually working for anything but pistol rounds

K bud

Wanna blow smoke go have a dart

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>>32692109
Yeah... This bugged me too.
Both sides in the film jump out of their cover only to get mowed down in a very comedic fashion, almost akin to Rocky blocking punches with his face.
Plus the film had a very bad case of No-Reload-No-Recoil syndrome that many films with firearms are infamous for.
Such a shame considering that the real Desmond Doss put off ever giving permission for a bio pic to be made about his military career because none of the directors/producers wanted to show the truth and only the truth. Mel Gibson over sensationalized, over dramatized, and flat out made his own unique character whose portrayed life wasn't anything like the real Desmond Doss.

>>32692187
Are there even any new movies with realistic combat? It seems like all of them being released have this same shlock with soldiers going through knee-deep gore and mud, charging forwards for what seems like miles, blindly firing at enemies that jump out of cover conveniently in front of them, no matter when or where they're fighting.

>>32692285

t. restrepo

>>32692285
We can only hope that Dunkirk is good.

>>32692285
Not really, because realistic combat in film would be boring as hell and depressing to watch.
Even Saving Private Ryan, that was high renowned for it's combat scenes, was pretty over the top for the most part.

>>32692301
that's a documentary you fucktard, a shitty "muh feels" one at that.

The most egregious scene in the movie was when Doss was dragging Vince Vaughn behind him on a blanket while he fired an M3. What the fuck was Mel even thinking?

>>32692337
>because realistic combat in film would be boring as hell and depressing to watch.
Maybe to ADD riddled kids or something.
>Even Saving Private Ryan, that was high renowned for it's combat scenes, was pretty over the top for the most part.
It was over the top everywhere though, wasn't it? In fact, isn't it pretty much the movie that started this shlock-combat tradition in Hollywood?

>>32692348
I don't know what he was thinking, but it must be good, considering that he got like a 10 minute standing ovation for the whole film.

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>>32692358
Isn't that the norm for Americans?

needs to be darker

>>32692373
That was in the Venice Film festival.

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>>32692432

>>32691761

>lifting a human body with one arm
>hip firing a BAR with the other
>also walking and aiming

NOPE

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>>32692312
I wish there was some good ww1 movies

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>>32692285

ikr...

And the Pacific Theater is so deserving of proper treatment (Pacific was great in the execution of Pieleileu and Okinawa, fell short on Iwo Jima).

War movies now have taken a step backwards, back into the realism of the 70s, except now there's just way too much mindless, cringey gore and CGI.

>>32692465
Me too, I hope Battlefield 1 can inspire enough people to rejuvenate that time period for movies and shows.

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>>32692301

It's a really boring documentary, you drooling retard.

Who the fuck wants to listen to MUH FEELS of some POG-ass 19 year old shitheads?

Kill yourself.

>>32692312

Based Nolan-man.

But I'm a little worried after seeing the Dark Night Rises...

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>>32692495

>Battlefield 1

>Based on WW1 and not a fantasy steampunk FPS

>Dunkirk

>WW1

All of my wat

>>32692536
Oh I meant that I hope Dunkirk turns out to be a good war movie made today. Then the other dude brought up how he wished there was good WW1 movies and I was just saying that I hope BF1 would at least inspired someone to make a modern, good, WW1 movie or show.

bodies as cover has been used many times over history desu senpai

>>32691761
Why does the US fantasise about violence and end up making cringeworthy movies like this?

>>32692231
Without limbs it's probably more like 100

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>>32692465
>I wish there was some good ww1 movies

>>32692885
Recent ones

>>32692889
Paths of Glory is timeless you cunt.

>>32692285
Sicario was awesome

>>32692910
I can only watch that and all quiet on the western front for so long

>>32692237
>Mel Gibson over sensationalized, over dramatized, and flat out made his own unique character whose portrayed life wasn't anything like the real Desmond Doss.

Things that aren't true, the post

>>32692562
Our World War is a great little mini series. Was on Netlfix not to long ago

>>32692926
Fair enough. Ever seen Johnny Got His Gun?

>>32692947
I watched the end of it for a class in high school. Everyone was depressed about that

>>32692936
Are you fucking kidding me? Desmond was on Leyte, Guam, and Okinawa, not just the Maeda escarpment on Okinawa... Plus he was also one of the first people to put up the rope ladder that's seen in the movie. He also supported killing the Japanese like any other soldier. Wasn't just some neutral saint.
As for the over sensationalized/dramatized stuff
>no reloads
>no recoil
>US and Japanese soldiers are literally fighting Civil War open field style
>the fucking grease gun sled shooting scene
>Doss being taken to court, possibly facing prison time over being a conscientious objector
and the list goes fucking on

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>>32692465

Look for "The Lost Battalion" A&E.

>>32692889
>Recent ones

>films need to be recent to be good

>>32693114

desu senpai

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>>32693086
I meant any but I'm looking for recent ones

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>>32693114
>let me just look and aim at Tojo while he pulls out a grenade, arms it and throws it at me

>>32693114
Why does he still have a leg?

>>32693221
Because he was wearing long pants

>>32692458

this, he'd have at least needed the sling over his shoulder

my grandfather carried one, fucking thing is almost as heavy if not as heavy as an M240B

>>32693319
20lbs iirc. Not something you can shoot accurately with one hand while lugging around half a body.

>>32692237
Yeah, guess the film should have never been made to begin with so he could remain a relatively obscure part of WWII's legacy. I'm so glad we have autistic 4channers dictating things.

>>32693221
Because he needs his two legs to make America great again

>>32693017
>implying Doss said he had any problem with Nips getting killed in the movie and didn't actually aid others in killing them
>mfw the official bio page mentions the court martial
Move on folks, just another tryhard contrarian

>>32693333
A pussy that was too scared to kill the enemy shouldn't have a film made about him.

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>>32693547

>>32693401
>>32692936
Honestly they got a surprising amount of stuff right considering this is Hollywood. If anything the movie downplayed his accomplishments, so there goes the accusation that he was "over-sensationalized".
http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/hacksaw-ridge/

I think some people are only happy watching documentaries and are of the jaded asshole variety of people. I literally make history exhibits for a living and I'm able to reign in my autism watching Hollywood history flicks to a decent degree, and I didn't have to do that nearly as much as I expected with Hacksaw.

>>32693547

MOS and dates of your tours?

>>32693221
Shit grenades. A few people have actually survived after jumping on a Type 97.

>>32692768
Because we aren't cucked Europeans that want to act like everything's nice.

>>32693401
>just another tryhard contrarian
welcome to the board, that's every other poster in a nutshell.

>>32691796
Not OP, but I've read about soldiers using bodies as sandbags. I'm sure Gibson took some creative liberties with this, but I don't doubt that something similar to this is possible.

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>>32693644
interestingly this "Kingsman: The Secret Service" movie isn't complete Jewery, it has a white male + white female couple, and the bad guy is even a black dude!

>>32693992
I actually liked that movie, even if they kind of played the whole "We are men of TASTE AND OBJECTIVELY RIGHT" thing a bit too hard. I mean, Bond does the same shit but it's kind of annoying.

Even if wearing anything other than Oxfords with a suit does actually make you degenerate scum.

>>32694021
>this kills the Hollyjew

>>32692465
Also a ww2 movie set on the battle of France would be interesting

>>32691761

Does the Arisaka fire 5.56?

>>32694192
probably 6.5mm jap

>>32694226

Then why does the body stop the bullets, it doesn't make any sense if it was 6.5 jap.

>>32694253
6.5 was a pretty wimpy cartridge compared to other rifle rounds. Though it'd still be able to punch through the body. Movie magic.

>>32694253
I would compare 6.5jap to .25-45 sharps at 7.62x39 velocities

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>>32693958
Anyone who thinks any of the shit portrayed in that movie is impossible clearly hasn't read any accounts of Okinawa.

>>32692231
>200

he was missing his lower body, i dont think there were many american soldiers that weighed 200 pounds alive either.

>>32692513
>POG

do you even know what that word means?

Am I the only that would like to see movies about fronts that don't get focused on. Like ww1 Italy or ww2 free France

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>>32693017
>Are you fucking kidding me?
See filename.

Also more at 11; Hollywood war drama embellishes, anon will tell us more about this groundbreaking discovery.
>US and Japanese soldiers are literally fighting Civil War open field style
Read some fucking books, that happened numerous times because of the Nip propensity for jumping out of their little rat holes en masse when the Americans were practically on top of them. Many didn't even have rifles.
>Doss being taken to court
Actually fucking happened you dipshit.

>>32692231
>200 pound corpse
Nice projecting, but that dude was not 200 pounds with just his torso. Maybe hit the gym there bud.
>30 pound gun
It was 19, but you'll get it right eventually.

>>32693114
>Doss throws the grenade back
>Probably hit a few nips with it
>mfw he broke his morals and actually killed someone

Immersion of the movie ruined.

>>32691761
24+ shots

yes i can count

1, 2, 3, 10

>>32692373
>>32692432
>getting blown out this fucking hard

>>32693571
So, does it seem sort of like "To hell and Back" wherein they cut out things that really happened because "Oh, come on, no one will believe that."?

>>32691761
>1 human can stop a bullet

>>32694458
I'm not that guy but let's be generous and say the corpse weighed 80lbs. Next time you're in the gym grab an 80lb dumbbell, wrapped it in sturdy cloth and then grip it by the cloth and hold it in front of your chest. Get back to me on how easy that is to do.

>>32694120
>A movie this short would not be interesting to anyone

>>32692947

HOLD MY BREATH AS I WISH FOR DEAAAAATH

OH PLEASE GOD WAKE MEEEEEEEEEEEE!

>>32691761
That's fucking metal

>>32693114
Is that actually in the fucking movie?

>>32692341

how is it 'muh feels'? its just about a bunch of dumbasses on a hill

>>32696086
Or it could be about a free French soldier. Make him part of the SAS unit they had

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>>32691761
That dude always reminded me of pic related

>>32692237
Lmao. Shut up retard.

>>32692513
>POG
What? They're an infantry platoon retard.

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>>32697337

Sam Worthington for Doom Guy in the screen adaptation of The New Order.

FUND IT

>>32692513
>Company of paratroopers
>POG
(((You)))

>>32691761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw0kg2GWVHo&t=199s

This actually happened according to the Peoples' Republic of China.

>>32694362
But I have and I still think that movie was embellished bullshit.

>>32695987
I've got some in my house, I'm no body-builder but I can pick them up with a good amount of effort. However, wrapping it in cloth wouldn't be a fair comparison. A shirt wrapped around a corpse is a lot different than a comparably smaller piece of metal with a cloth around it. Weight distribution makes the corpse a lot easier to pick up than the dumbbell, with or without a shirt

>>32692465
Every male actor in Verdun, visions d'histoire was a WW1 veteran. A lot of them literally played themselves (looking at you Petain). Many shots from the movie have over the years been mistaken for actual combat footage from Verdun. I'm not sure if the movie is GOOD (it's dated at least), but you can't find much better accuracy.

>>32697931
I'm sure you do.

>>32692285
There was Generation Kill if you count TV shows.

>>32697791
>Lmao
XDDD

>>32693114
>okinawa
>marines aren't just shooting surrendering japaniggers on sight in case they pull some retarded shit
immersion broken

>>32694458
Okay then, go ahead and post video of yourself carrying an 80 pound sandbag in front of your body while hip firing a BAR accurately.

>>32694192
no but historically the type 38 had an underpowered cartridge compared to western masterrace guns cuz japanese soldiers were smaller than their western counter parts. They fixed it in the type 99 tho.

>>32698298
>>32697952

>>32692285
Siege of Jadotville was pretty good

>>32694426
>ww1 italy
nobody makes any movies about italy in any of the world wars because italy never did anything noteworthy enough to make a movie out of

>>32691761
this movie made me pick up rising storm again

>>32698329
nah
Also I wasn't combating the fact the scene is abhorrently wrong about the BAR bit, just saying one handing an 80 lb rotting corpse by the shirt wouldn't be the most extraordinary thing done while high on adrenaline

>>32692109
>walking forwards with a BAR
Literally what it was designed for.

>>32691761
Only if you're a big guy obviously

>>32698291
They were Army in the movie.

That being said, I'm pretty sure Soldiers shot the japs on sight like the Marines did at that point in the war, only thing I can say in defense of this scene is that in the movie this is the Company's first battle so they may have not of been as jaded as veterans.

>>32692285
13 Hours minus a few artistic liberties

>>32693041
>not Mouser

YA BLEW IT

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>>32691761
>22 muzzle flashes without reloading
>triggered

>>32698941
I agree. Had its own problems as a movie, but the general war-story aspects of it were good

>>32692285
Russians make some good war movies with realistic combat.
That is if you dont mind subs.

>>32692490
I've heard that that's partly because there was no single group of front-line people that made it from ~Midway-Hiroshima. Casualties were so great, that there just wasn't enough continuity of cast to make for a good Band of Brothers/Big Red One-style of show for the pacific theater.

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>>32699842
>"Aleksey Kravchenko says that he underwent "the most debilitating fatigue and hunger. I kept a most severe diet, and after the filming was over I returned to school not only thin, but grey-haired."[9] The 2006 UK DVD sleeve states that the guns in the film were often loaded with live ammunition as opposed to blanks, for realism. Aleksey Kravchenko mentions in interviews that bullets sometimes passed just 4 inches (10 centimeters) above his head (such as in the cow scene)."

This 14-year old kid was mortared while running through a forest, that itself merits a watch

>>32691761
you fags are only defending this garbage because it was directed by mel

if it was some no name hack youd be ripping this trash to shreds

>>32697889
the thing that triggers me most is that the nips are using brownings

>>32699065
came here to post this
BAR mag only holds 20

>>32693319
you can see footage right there of the actor holding it with one hand. you think pointing a camera at someone makes the gun magically lighter?

>>32692231
Are you kidding? A legless Jap corpse weighing that much? Try maybe 50 pounds, its missing the legs and likely the internal organs due to that, and a WW2 Jap probably weighed 100 pounds soaking wet

>>32699842
Depends on the film I will agree that
>>32699956
Is one of the best, but lately a lot of Russian cinema will include Hollywood-esque over the top action sequences. 9th Company is alright (if unrealistic, the actual guys who were in 9th company were nowhere near in as bad a situation as the film depicted) and if its available there's a couple films on Chechnya that were pretty good. Sadly I can't recall their names.

>>32700484
*recent Russian cinema

>>32700260
>20 rounds
>1 in the chamber
>1 for the corps

22 rounds. What's the problem?

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I dont think people are getting the point hat the movie is supposed to be stylised. Considering we have relatively realistic movies depicting the European theatre that are very gritty, how do you show off how much more gritty the fighting on the Pacific theatre
To this I have to give Mel a lot of credit as he starts off seeming realistic, but as soon as the ridge itself is introduced the movie becomes surreal. The ridge is depicted as if it were hell itself, and the rope ladder is repeatedly shown as if it were a portal into some otherworldly nightmare place

>>32693958
>but I've read about soldiers using bodies as sandbags
That happened plenty, especially in the korean war IIRC.
>>32694362
But the fact that his human shield actually stopped rifle bullets?
They could have showed him using a human shield to try protect himself, but it really shouldn't have been more than a fragment shield against grenades. A human body stopping rifle rounds? pretty ridiculous to the Nth degree.

>>32697889
damn this is good

>>32700580
>how much more gritty the fighting on the Pacific theatre
t. Knows nothing about eastern front

>>32700484
>a couple films on Chechnya
Probably you're talking bout "Чиcтилищe" and "Boйнa"

>>32700725
The first name I recognize, the second I do not. I do recall watching a short "mini-series" (at least I believe that's what it was) about a company of VDV that were assaulted during the second Chechen War.

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>>32697889
holy shit

>>32700729
That mini-series if I remember correctly is called "Гpoзoвыe вopoтa". However, out of those I like "Boйнa" more. Also there is a documentary called "60 чacoв Maйкoпcкoй бpигaды" about the ambush and destruction of 131 motorifle brigade during first battle of Grozny (1994-1995) from the director of "Чиcтилищe".

>>32692237
Looked like a POS to me from a mile away, thanks for confirming.

>>32700716
This is from the American perspective though you dingleberry

>>32700788
"Boйнa" is a story of a Russian POW and a British prisoner, which were released from Chechen labour camp to get ransom for the other British prisoner, inspired by a rl story of British prisoners in Chechnya.

>>32700788
Thanks, that was the one.

>>32692768
Its excessive everywhere not just the US. Still a good movie though
https://youtu.be/Vqb_DzL8xmw?t=1h17m41s

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>>32700570
1 for the corps

>>32692187
>WW2
>not grim

>>32694021
I wear brogues with my suits.

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>>32698152
>literally played themselves
Congratulations.

Ya played yaself

>>32701045
Straight from wikipedia

>Brogues were traditionally considered to be outdoor or country footwear not otherwise appropriate for casual or business occasions (glorious Britain making sure the proletariat know their place), but brogues are now considered appropriate in most contexts (allowances being made for poor degenerate scum who can't dress themselves)

Britain is reclining

>>32691761
yes. and no soldier used that chin strap. ever.

>>32691761

I know it did, I was there

>>32691761
If the bullets penetrated that dead dudes body enough to dead him, why is his corpse suddenly impenetrable?

Cus if human bodies were that bullet proof, there would be no point in doing 'le epic human shield'

>>32701082
I think you mean declining. Reclining is what one does in his favourite armchair with his pipe and a whisky after recieving a proper gentlemans servicing from the town harlet.

>>32700570

>1 for the corps

kek

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>>32701166
It's a /jp/ meme

>>32693114
>>32691761
>beyond edge

>>32692285
Sicario had some realistic combat scenes save for the hurrr splinter cell ending (which was also awesome, just retarded)

The Delta Force operators were real ex Seals and Delta guys apparently.

>>32692231

>legless armless corpse
>200lbs

lmfao hit the gym bozo

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>>32692231
>2017
>Letterkennyposting

>>32692285
Beasts of No Nation if you want some African operators.

>>32701347
Go home daryl

>>32700794
It's funny because that guy likely didn't even watch it if his second post is any indication and you're so oblivious to how much of a complete tool you are.

>>32691761

>carrying an adult man's torso, arms, and head with one hand, thinking that mutilated meatsack will somehow protect him from rifle rounds
>carrying a BAR with the other
>accurately mowing down several Jap troops with that one-handed BAR with a 20 round mag while on the move

I call bullshit.

>>32691761
thats alot of bullets out of a 20round mag

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>>32691761
>>32693114

Oh. I thought it was supposed to be good. I was actually looking forward to watching that. Well, I guess it's back to rewatching The Pacific instead, for the twentieth time. Jesus Christ, this makes Fury look realistic.

>>32698360
I'm just saying that it would at least draw some interest since most people I've talked to didn't even know Italy was in ww1

>>32702911

That scene makes Arnie's assault in Commando look realistic.

>>32702911
>rewatching Pacific
This movie is actually good, but if you prefer woman-grade soap operas go for it.

>>32702989

>actually good
>good

I was already on the fence when I learned the protagonist is some sort of cultist who's willing to put the lives of his platoon mates and unit cohesion at risk by wanting to be a special pussy snowflake, and has a commander incompetent enough to put him on the front line instead of assigning him to the sanitation department for the remainder of the war. But from the reviews I still got the impression it at least had good, realistic action... Nope. I hope Mel Gibson soon dies from liver cirrhosis and no one has to watch his piece of shit anal theme park versions of historic events.

>>32703028
if that's what's in the movie then i guess its all lies. doss was a great man.

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>>32696258
> "They begin to throw these hand grenades," recalled Desmond. "I saw it comin'. There was three other men in the hole with me. They were on the lower side, but I was on the other side lookin' when they threw the thing. I knew there was no way I could get at it. So I just quickly took my left foot and threw it back to where I thought the grenade might be, and throw my head and helmet to the ground. And not more than half a second later, I felt like I was sailin' through the air. I was seein' stars I wasn't supposed to be seein', and I knew my legs and body were blown up." The blast left 17 pieces of shrapnel embedded in Desmond's body, mostly in his legs
It was one grenade instead of two and it was during a hand-to-hand engagement, but if the thought of false-surrendering Nips is hard for you to believe GG I guess...

>>32703088
Throwing or kicking grenades away isn't what makes that scene look retarded, unless there's a special type of Japanese frag grenade that shoots giant balls of flame but lacks any fragmentation that I haven't heard of.

>>32701347
netflix needs to pick up letter kenny.

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>>32699956
Holy shit damn commies are crazy

>>32703320
Are you new to movies or something?

>a malnourished GI born during Great Depression
>carrying a 50 kg+ corpse one-handed while sprinting across rough unfamiliar terrain after days of exhausting close combat
>using said corpse to effectively stop multiple rifle rounds fired at close quarters
>firing a .30-06 9 kg+ M1918 in full-auto while doing all that and managing to kill multiple enemy riflemen (even if they conveniently jump out of cover)

>this really happened

I'll let you decide.

>>32693332
>accurately
>implying you can't spray and pray when the fags are 10 feet in front of you

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>>32697850
Yes!

YESSSS!

>>32704718
>born during the Depression
How many 15 year olds do you think served in WW2?

>>32705434
A fucking lot

>>32705442
Maybe not on the American side, at least less, but yeah approximately one shitload.

>>32703320
Type 4 grenade, Japan ran out of steel for fragmentation jackets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_4_grenade

>>32691857
This was way more funny than it has any right to be.

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>>32692465
The lost battalion was good.

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Was Mel Gibson blacklisted again?

Is OP a Mel Gibson hater?

Does OP need to go in the oven? Do you need to go in the oven, OP? I'll put you there. Mine takes about 5 minutes to warm up.

>>32693114
Doss actually pulled some shit like that.
It's how he initially got wounded.

Then he got shot by a sniper after giving his stretcher to another wounded man. (Not in the movie).

>>32708009
Not op. If Mel fucked up anything, it was by not telling the story accurately enough.

Doss was badass for real. He didn't need the Hollywood treatment.

>>32705434

He phrased it wrong because your formulative years during it fucks you up as much as being born to a malnourished mother.

>>32707949

I liked how nasty the fighting felt in the last scene with the flamethrower. Not really even 'cinematic' in a hollywood scene the way say Band of brothers is but just like a real messy fucking brawl.

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>>32700484
>couple films on Chechnya
Voyna/The War (2002)

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Posting best Pacific War movie
Soundtrack is killer too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF9_9MZyQGo

I love how it doesn't hold back on the brutality and savagery of the Japs, but still displays them as human beings as well, with two major characters being Japanese,
one of which is Beat Takeshi in one of his earliest roles, and he actually speaks broken English!!

Easily one of my favorite war movies of all time, right alongside Cross of Iron and The Odd Angry Shot.

>MELLY CREESTMAS... melly creestmas... Mista Lawlence!!..
;_; every time.

>>32703676
They got Limmy's Show, I have hope!

>>32692109
Japs running towards you like the mindless Russian soldiers in Goldeneye 64 actually happened though. That was their strategy

>>32692285
The Odd Angry Shot (the original 1970's one). About the Australians in Vietnam, my father was spearhead company who supported the SAS in Belize during the Guatamala issues, saw it just after he left and was quite impressed with its depiction of jungle warfare.

>>32709299
One of my favorites and I'm American. I love it when the characters feel like people.

>That entire Aussie-US drunken brawl over a scorpion beating a spider
One of my favorite scenes in a war film.

I for one liked the fact that the movie Armorer did a good job. He got M1s with the correct WWII lockbar rear sights and actually had dust covers on the Type 38s, like they should be. Now if only they taught the actors to reload.

>>32697337
Wtf that's not doomguy, that's BJ from wolfenstein. You had one job.