Thoughts?
Too many autists hoard too many of these.
Best semi-automatic handgun available in 1900.
Mine actually doesn't jam ever. Not sure what inspires people to amass collections of literally dozens.
>>32691478
What a scrub, don't you know that the Bergmann is the esoteric pistol of the month.
>>32691478
Really beautiful guns that fired well and worked well but there are reasons why it's not the predominate design to come out of the era.
>>32691478
Great great granddad for many things out there.
>>32691599
How?
How many modern guns have toggle-lock and exposed barrel.
>>32692474
at least one.
>>32691478
>>32691478
"Ebony and ivory..."
>>32692474
Or toggle barrel and exposed lock
>>32691478
I like mine. Fun to shoot. Doesn't really jam so long as you're using decent ammo. Looks nice.
>>32691478
Needs a rail, laser, tac light, extended mags, and a red dot on top.
>>32691478
Overpriced
>>32691478
I'd take it over [spoiler]a 1911.[/spoiler]
I greatly enjoy mine. They've been utterly reliable with all manner of cheap FMJ ammunition I've fed them. The triggers take a bit of getting used to as they feel a bit more vague than other designs. The grip angle is wonderful and feels very natural. The tiny sights are a bit of a hindrance for accuracy, though.
a nice investment piece if you get all matching good condition they have only gone up in value. there are not more being made and pumped into the market
Isnt as nice as the C96
>>32691478
I really want one.
>>32696188
Both are great fun to shoot, but with its stock the C.96 is a clumsy pistol. The P.08 has far better balance and controls. The C.96 (in its native 7.63mm) is one hell of a fire-breather, though.
Here's my wartime commercial.
>>32696596
Sexy. Not sure exactly what my .30 is, 9mm was a rebored .30
>>32691478
Expensive. Beautiful. Collectible.
>>32696637
They both look like parts guns from the photo.
The lower one has a Bolo grip frame and a 5.5" barrel which wasn't a factory offering. The hammer and safety appear to be wartime commercial parts. The grips are aftermarket.
The upper appears to have an M1930 grip frame and barrel (judging from the Mauser banner on the left side and the step on the barrel ahead of the chamber) but has a wartime commercial hammer and safety. The grips appear to be aftermarket from the color, escutcheon and general fit to the frame - but M1930 aftermarket grips tend to be much closer to the originals than the earlier finely grooved step-frame grips.
>>32696596
An Aesthetic treat. Steel, brass, wood, leather. Iron.
>>32696873
Do mine next.
>>32695607
This
If youre gonna a buy an outdated design at least buy one that looks aesthetic not some gay ass 1911
>>32697157
Yours is an M1930 and was originally sold to China - hence the 'Made in Germany' in Chinese on the magazine housing.
It's been refinished and the Blackletter script of the caliber stamp added to the barrel makes me suspect it was imported and reblued by Federal Ordnance.
The hammer and safety are correct for an M1930 but the grips are aftermarket. The lanyard ring is missing, of course.
>>32697635
Bingo its a federal arms job.
Neat thing about it is it has pre m30 lockwork.
Paid 700$ for it so i think i did good.
>>32697757
It sure looks like M1930 lockwork. The M1930 lock frame is easily ID'd by that large hole below the hammer pivot. You've also got M1930 hammer (large hole) and safety (hole through knob, marked S and F) which are correct for that frame. The transitional models had New Safety hammers and safety levers.
Here's the lock frame from my wartime commercial, which is the model preceding the M1930 and was the model that introduced the New Safety system.
The M1930 used what was called the Universal Safety system. The New Safety requires you to pull the cocked hammer back slightly to apply the safety, as it holds the hammer off the sear. The Universal Safety does not require this movement and also allows the hammer to be lowered with the trigger with the safety engaged.
>>32698108
Well fuck i must be retarded and got the two mixed up thanks.
Got anymore info on these federal ordnance guns?
Cant find much of anything about them on line.
>>32696596
>Yo dawg, I heard you liked holsters so I got a holster for your holster
>>32691546
The Bergmann was legitimately the best of the early automatics. It's basically everything that's good about the C96, with none of the flaws.