Name a more fudd cartridge than the 30-30 >protip you cant

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>>32678855
I would say it's a toss up between fuddy-fuddy and fuddy-aught six.

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My vote is two fuddy tree

>>32678855
Hornsby Leverevolution dimishes fudd factor significantly.

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>>32678855
.25-06

It's for people who want to hunt coyotes or groundhogs, yet are absolutely adverse to using 5.56.

>>32678870
*Hornady

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/thread

>>32678862
Can 30-06 be fudd if its a ex military cal?

>>32678855
5.56 or 9mm

17 caliber shit. literally the only people who use this are old geezers with rodent problems on their property

>>32678855
>Name a more fudd cartridge than the 30-30
10mm Auto

>>32678944

>he's never shot .17HMR

>>32678948
>10mm auto
>fudd
It's more mallninja than fudd.
No fudd would use it, its designed for those scurry salt high map auto pistols, not good old fashioned DA revolvers.

>>32678855
I would say
>turdy-awt-six
but that was still a military cartridge
or...
>Tree-O-Ate
but, that would up being a parent case for 7.62x51mm and is interchangeable.
>Too-Sebendy or Too-Furdy-Tree
But those are based off of .30-06 and .308 respectively. So...

>.30-30
>No parent case
>Never used for military applications on any significant scale.
>Never used for police applications on any significant scale.
>Terrible for autoloaders
>Not popular in bolt actions
>Heavy round head bullet doesn't have phenomenal ballistics but it's weight causes it to punch through brush.
>Never used by competition shooters
>Not often used by hot loaders
>Not a snowflake caliber
>Only really good for 'Muh leber ackshun' or 'Only the first shot counts' guns.

It's scientifically the most fudd caliber out there.

What about 22-250?

>>32678855
300win mag

>>32679043
By that reckoning, the .45-70 would be equally perfect.

>>32678869
>Necked down .308 which is the parent case/interchangeable round for 7.62x51mm
>>32678873
Based on .30-06 which served in 2 world wars, nice try.
>>32678944
>You're actually onto something. Even .22 is included in some military survival kits.
Only problem is it was developed off of .22 mag which was developed off of .22

>.30-30 based off of no parent case
>Never used in a war

Obviously .22 LR

Not only fudds use it, but it is the most fudd cartridge because
>it'll bounce around inside ya

>>32679077
>Used in the Spanish American war.

>>32678855
You just might be right op.

A 30-30 is well known and an answer to fudd needs. However fudds are also cheap and economy bolt guns I think would sell first. Or used pump/bolt rifles. Fudds love pump 30-06's.

I say the fudd club likes as a whole: 30-30, 35 rem, 30-06, 270 win, 257 Roberts and 300 savage.

>>32679045
Almost
>Used by an Australian counter-terrorism group
>To reduce penetration to cause less damage to civilian assets
>>32679077
>Used by the US army back in the late 1800s
>>32679057
>Used by military snipers and law enforcement as a longer shooting caliber than .308
>Don't know why they can't just go back to a hot load of .30-06
>>32679087
.22 rifles are given in survival kits for pilots on dangerous missions. Israel does this for theirs.

Come on and try me.

>>32679130
Don't forget .308 and .243

My vote for a caliber is:
7mm Remington Magnum
>Based off of .375 H&H
>Never used in war
>Parent case never used in war
>Not too old
>Not extremely new
>Not fantastically popular
>Not totally obscure
>Almost impossible to find an auto-loader for it beyond some shitty AR-10 derivative.
>Actually know a fudd who had one.

Find a flaw, I dare thee.

Why is nobody going for an easy one?
>20 Gauge

>>32679151
I didn't include them for the same reason I almost didn't include 270 win. If you give a fudd the choice between 308, 270, and 30-06 in his pump Remington, 9/10 he picks the damn 06.

I also almost included 22 mag. In my area it's what fudds really love. Fudds here horde it and 17 is fucking over stocked. I like my Ruger American in 22 mag but I fucked up. Should have gotten the 17.

>>32679141
I said in my original post that not only fudds use .22 LR, jackass

learn to read

>>32679189
I'm gonna disagree based on the fact real hard fudds don't reload. I think the modern fudd is the pro gun everything I need is at Walmart shopper.

From a reloading standpoint 7mm mag, though a powder burner and not efficient, does shine in case volume and hotter loads.

>>32679263
I didn't mention anything about reloading.
unless you thought
>auto-loader for it beyond some shitty AR-10 derivative
meant reloading.

What about 410?

>>32679242
of all the fudds I know, none like the 7600.

>>32679278
My bad. I forgot this place is autistic and anti social. I should never have taken the topic of 7mm mag off course of your reasoning why it sucks.

>>32679289
It's rampant here.

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Can't believe no one has said .270 yet.

Every fudd has a .270 and considers it the ultimate durr rifle.

>>32679298
>Argument doesn't go his way
>"Oh board's full of autists, sure is summer in here."

>>32679314
Ugh. So you're stupid, too? Not surprising.

>>32679317
Somebody has a small dick today. Or are you just a no-guns.

>>32679321
It's not to late to get your GED.

>>32679317
>Name calling
Sorry 4chan is an 18+ website, please leave.

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>>32678855
32 winchester special
I win, you lose, and as always, shitposting prevails.

>>32679043
You're also forgetting that it is also the ballistic equivalent to a potato compared to pretty much any other modern rifle caliber. Even 7.62x39 has better ballistics across its entire effective range.

McCarthy was right. Communism IS winning.

>>32679329
You're just mad because you can't come up with anything funny or good.

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>>32679325
I know that's why you should go back and get yours.

Why are you such a little priss today /k/omrad?

>>32679343
And you think you're funny, talk about delusional.

>>32678855
.243
.270
.22-250 Swift

>>32679338
>essentially .30-30
>Parent case is .30-30

>>32679365
could you get more fudd than an even more fudd version of 30-30?

>>32679358
see
>>32679141
>>32679084

>>32678883
>threading your own post
faggot
also
>invented to kill pepole
hardly fudd

>>32679043
>claiming the glorious 6.9x64mm masterrace is based off the fuddy ought sheet, when it's parent case is the .30-03.
/k/ - filled with mouth breathing simpletons, like always.

>>32679043
30-03s parent case was the 30-01, both ment to be used for military purposes.

>>32679372
My god.

I mean that case does win though. Its not even some snowflake like ackley improved and it's something I see on the shelves.

>>32679389
>>32679402

>>32678855
Why do you think .30-30 got popular among hunters/fudds in the first place?
It dropped injuns like a mother fucker.

The most fudd cartridge isn't even a cartridge. It's an arrow.

>I'm gonna stick a durr wit mah Jennings come durr season

6.5x55 on this side of the pond.

>>32678898
Fuddy five 70 was an ex-military cartidge and that never stopped the fudds from loving.

>>32679329
>Sorry 4chan is an 18+ website, please leave
>He says on a website where faggot, cuck, and nigger is used so much that its meaning is a mere buzz word

>>32679461
>1895
>Still any injuns that hadn't been killed or rounded up.

>>32679482
Used by the Swedish military

>>32679193
Itsh got a gud shpread

>>32678855
7mm-08
Not only king of fudd rounds, but pretty much useless.

30-30 allows you to have a suppressed lever action! Mossberg even makes a T A C T I C A L 30-30.

Ballistically on par with 300 AAC BLK.

FWIW, a suppressed lever action SBR in 38/357 is about as much fun as you can have with clothes on.

>>32679526
Better BC than 308. Less powder if you handload. Easier on brass.
After 6.5creedmoor though 7mm-08 BTFO

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>all these people who think an ex military round can't be a fudd round

implying fudds care or even have basic knowledge of this shit, they only think 'assault rifle' rounds are too powerful or underpowered, they're the type of person who praise the M1 Garand as the greatest US military weapon ever made but wouldn't use one for hunting because it's semi auto or not as accurate as their durr rifle. They often prefer wildcats because they think mechanical accuracy or ballistic coefficient actually matters much when hunting deer.

>>32679490
>knowing nothing of the injun conflicts where they were killed into the 1970s
history class motherfucker, did you take it?

>>32679526
>7mm-08
>useless

Hi, noguns.

>>32679482
Found the swede! But I would say 30-06 is a big fudd round over here to. It is called "Old man Magnum"(gubbmagnum)for a reason

>>32679600
Hi faggot who wanted to pay more than .308 prices, but shoulder is too mucb of a pussy to handle .270, 7mm rem mag, .30-06, or .300wm (to name a few) all of which are cheaper and vastly out perform the 7mm-08.
Shit, it isn't the best of the non-mag short actions.

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>>32679600
>paying the same/more for a weaker 7mm

>>32679193
If we're going shotguns then 10 gauge

>>32678855
.38

Honestly if so called fudds like these calibers there's nothing wrong.

>>32678855
.22 long ( not lr)
.22 extra long
.32 rimfire
.38 rimfire
.221 fireball
.222 remington
.22 Remington Automatic
.22 Winchester Automatic
.22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire
.22 Winchester Rimfire
.25 Stevens
5mm remington rimfire magnum
.219 bee
.219 zipper
.30 remington
.35 remington
.25 remington
.30 nosler
.404 Jeffery
.25-35 winchester

>>32678855
Fuddy five ACP

>>32679611
.30-06 is kind of fuddish but it's still a pretty damn solid round.

>>32679890
Yeah, but in factory loads it's basically identical in performance to .308 while being a lot bigger and heavier.

>>32679806
this

>>32679806
Those are al niche rounds, fuddy fuddy is still around and easily available

>>32679806
>222 remington
WTF

>>32679189
>>Almost impossible to find an auto-loader for it beyond some shitty AR-10 derivative.

Browning BAR Safari you fucking cuck.

>>32679611
Norwegian, actually.
I mean, it's in no way a poor calibre for hunting anything in the country, and it's apparently not too bad for precision long range shooting either, but the cult following it has is stupid.
.30-06 is also somewhat popular with old folks here (whatcha mean ridiculous issa big boolet), while .308 is more common with younger shooters.
.223, though, is ridiculously rare to see.

>>32678862
>>32678869
>>32678873
>>32679057
>>32679045
>>32679310
>>32679358
>people who have never shot anything other than paper.
>people have never spent more than 2 hours at a time in the woods.

If you don't hunt you don't get an opinion on hunting cartridges.

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>>32679968
>He doesn't hand load

>>32678873
25-06 is WAY WAY more powerful than 223.

>>32680206
I hunt.

Most hunting rounds are redundant. You can hunt virtually everything on the north american continent using just milsurp. 5.56 and .308 are good enough for everything excluding the largest animals, even up here in AK. I took a moose with surplus .308. Suck my damn dick.

>>32680056
Agreed with 6.5 here in Sweden I get shit from my father in law all the time because I bought a .308 rifle instead of a 6.5.
I would love .223 to be more cheaper and more available, it's not rare but it is more expensive then the fudd round .222 but .223
Beats it every day of the week.

>>32680206
>t. Bubba Fuddton

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>>32678944
Top kek, you described my fuddy grandpa perfectly. He even bought one of these fucking things. Yes, it's over $1,200.00 dollaroos.

45-70 or 30-30 is objectively the most fudd rifle cartridge.

As far as pistol cartridges, I'd say .45 is definitely the most fudd. It doesn't matter that it has actual merit and is still used by military forces, I have literally never met a fudd who carried anything other than a .44 or a .45.
>muh stoppin powah
>muh America
>muh WWII

>>32679077
.45-70 Government was the US military's standard rifle cartridge for like 30 years and is still popular in lever guns and comically oversized revolvers.

>>32678855
>fuddy foive sevty

>>32678855
>fudd cartridge
what is more gay than not using a weapon because someone else might think it's chambered in a "fudd cartridge".
goddamn OP time to grow up.

>>32679986
Yup, it was a varmint cartridge designed before the .223 remington was a thing. It's widely available in countries that can't use .223 because it falls under the "military caliber" specification and not to be used by civillians. It was also used as the parent case to make the .221 Fireball cartridge.

>>32680423
>mah subsonic ammo for great suppression ?

>>32680368
your grandfather sounds like a true american.
treasure him anon, while you still can...sooner than you know, he will be gone.

>>32680488
You're smarter than half the people on /k/.

I love shooting my double barrel and Springfield 1903, and I totally want to get a modern bolt gun in 30-06 as well as a 30-30

>>32679077
45-70 is the only government I trust

>>32680368
>$1200 gun standing on a Chinese $5 bipod
This always cracks me up

>>32679536
>creedmoor
would this then be the pinnacle of fuddscience?

>>32679806
>i went to ammunitiontogo.com and picked out everything i didn't recognize
you cheeky bastard

>>32680529
Well fuck, now I feel terrible for shit talking. Thanks anon.

Not a hunter but what do you do about the area the bullet penetrates?

>>32680761
Do you consider anyone other than a milsurp rhodesian-camo-faggot a fudd?
6.5 creedmoor is widely used in long range shooting competitions and 3 gun/steel challenge.
Anyone else here IPSC/IDPA?
Has "fudd" come to mean "anything non-NATO" and I didn't get the memo?

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I shoot long range matches down in Pueblo, CO. Steel targets out to 1400m. See how far muh tree-o'-ate gets you at the distance. See what kind of groups factory ammo gets you.

What's the fuddest pistol cartridge? .45 or .357 or .38?

>>32680897

Also, let's just settle on the fuddest:

Revolver
Semi-Auto Pistol but that is obviously no debate whatsoever 1911
Bolt action
Shotgun

>>32680897
Older revolver cartidges.
My vote is for any SAA in 45lc, like the vaquero.

>>32680908
Are you saying all shotguns are fudd?
Do you not 3 gun?
Have you even SEEN John Wick?
Get your life together.

Seems like this thread is filled with poorfags, no guns, and plain ol' niggers.
You bitches can't even decide on what is a Fudd.

>>32680530
>You're smarter than half the people on /k/.
other half really is gay.

>>32680950
Most fudd round..... I guess the one most used to take our rights away...... so whatever is in use with atf?

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Most Fudd rounds are predecessors to modern rounds, I don't know what people have against an inanimate object. Really, you should just have a problem with the NRA who pretends to be progun, but is really just for hunting.

All of the hunters I know are all for self-defense.

>>32680881
down by the reever?

>>32680908
>fuddy shotgun
Im going to say break action, either single or double barrel

>>32679130
I vote for 35 Remington as the most fudd caliber available

Especially out of a bubba'd model 8 or a TC contender pistol.

>>32681203
Is it because it's the .45 to .30-30's 9mm?

Also, having inherited that caliber rifle is annoying on ammo cost.

>>32681203
>Especially out of a bubba'd model 8
how do you bubba a Model 8?

>>32681297
>that caliber rifle is annoying on ammo cost.
lrn2reloading

>>32681344
>He's never seen scopes mounted with JB weld

>>32681344
>lrn2reloading

>$50 for 100 bullets
>New brass $50 for 50
Gotta reload a lot for a rifle that'll do 20-30 rounds a year at best for most people.

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.32WS.

>>32679317
>ugh
Fuck off to plebbit

>>32678855
.35 Remington, .270win

>>32680246
This. There is literally no reason for all of those hunting cartridges to even exist. .308 will do it.

.223, .308 and any Shotgun shells are the new Fudd. “Fudd” is a, “Slang term for a “casual” gun owner; eg; a person who typically only owns guns for hunting or shotgun sports.

>>32681439
>$50 for 100 bullets
> 20-30 rounds a year
so $10 per year?
also,

what bullets are you looking at for $50/100? you can get jacketed 200gr soft-points $25, or cast for even less.

>New brass $50 for 50
$35, and can probably get 10 reloads out of them. that's 25 years worth of brass if you only shoot a box per year.

per shot cost:
>$0.25 bullet
>$0.07 case
>$0.03 primer
>$0.16 powder
$0.51 per round - $10.20 per box

Are mall ninjas the modern day fudds? Everyone and their brother has a ar

>>32679130
>fudd club likes as a whole: 30-30, 35 rem, 30-06, 270 win, 257 Roberts and 300 savag

Fudd reporting
30-30 has a parent case that was used by the military, 30-30 has higher chamber pressure
35rem true fudd cartridge, but fat heavy bullet is good in dense undergrownth, ideal for fudd hunting
.30-06 US millitary cartridge, 2nd best non-magnum rifle cartridge
270 win parent is .30-06, non-fudd
275 roberts is stupid stupid stupid
300 savage, response to 30-30 win. Saw limited use in the savage model 99 in WW1. Use in major military makes it non-fudd. Also just a lot of fun as far as .30 cal rifles go. Also good in dense brush since it can take a nice fat 200gr bullet.

Your list is generally fudd favorites I will give you that, but really the only fudd cartridge there is the 35rem, like all rem-shits.
you want to talk true fudd, lets talk 17 hmr, 22 stinger, and 22-250.

>>32681719
>what bullets are you looking at for $50/100?
Hornady FTX. OK, they're $41 at Cabela's, but that's the MSRP.

Eh, ultimately, it's not that big a deal, just an annoyance. The cheapest factory loads also happen to be the best, with Hornady Leverevolution.

>>32681914
>.358 Hornady FTX
my dad is the only one I know that uses those. he has a custom barreled Nip made Browning clone of a Winchester 71, in .35-.348. wouldn't waste money on those in a .35 Rem. just use the Hornady or Sierra round nose 200gr. FTX is not going to turn a .35 Rem into a 300 yard hunting rifle.

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>>32678855
Meh, I still love my 30-30. I don't even use her for hunting, she's just damn fun to shoot.

>>32682044
It's still the cheapest round in .35 Rem as a factory load.

.270

>Special snowflake bullet diameter
>Special snowflake brass (Necked down 30-03)
>Muh flat shooting precision
>Next to no actual match hunting projectiles made in that diameter, let alone factory loads.

>>32682146
Midway has 150gr Remington brand .35 Remington on clearance right now for $17, but I give up.
my point was reloading it yourself for $10/bx. even rolling your own with FTX bullets, is only $12.60/bx

>>32682244
Not exactly a reliable price point, looks like that particular load is being discontinued from it's usual $32.

>>32681758
>>32681636
OP of 36. I will agree with you, everyone and their Sperm has an AR. I live in Texas, soo many AR's lever actions, bolt guns and shotguns. First rifle I ever shot was a. 243, was hunting in South Texas.

>>32682176
>Next to no actual match hunting projectiles
what are:
>Berger
>Hornady
>Sierra

I know what each word means separately, but wtf is "match hunting"? somebody holds competitive deer hunting matches, and a bullet manufacturer makes bullets for that particular niche sport? or is it just a marketing term that you bought into?

>>32682386
I was just being nice and passing along a cheap price I found on ammo for a gun you own. I'm not sure if you're being willfully retarded or just autism, but my point was that you can feed your rifle for $10/box, if you actually cared. you obviously don't or are just really fucking lazy. kys

>>32682415
>but my point was that you can feed your rifle for $10/box, if you actually cared. you obviously don't or are just really fucking lazy. kys
Sure, if I dedicate $2000 and a good chunk of my apartment to equipment and a loading bench. Not everybody needs to do reloading, or has the time, space, or whatever to burn.

>>32682512
Please KYS
I put together my set up for $140 with powder, bullets and primers included.
granted I'm using fudd 30-30 and a lyman 310 press and dies I found local for cheap. But it packs up in a 12x12x12 book box and sets up nice on the coffee table. I also mass my powder with a balance I got at the same sale.

>>32682560
Good for you. Stop being a twat about it.

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>>32682512
>Sure, if I dedicate $2000 and a good chunk of my apartment
>or has the time, space, or whatever to burn
I bought my shit used and probably don't have $100 in it total. it takes up a few square feet, and can probably single-stage a box of rifle ammo before hickok45 finishes thanking Federal for his ammo.

>>32680529
sounds like you're gunna kill his grandfather.

exciting,

>>32678855
.45 Long Colt
Ha! Beat that!

>>32678855
6mm remington, shits fucking hard to find

>>32681838
22 stinger huh? If a fudd is into that he's probably all about his 218 bee and 220 swift.

>>32683590
>6mm remington
>shits fucking hard to find
it's ballistically superior to .243 Win.
availability makes a cartridge "fudd"?

>>32679483
>45-70 Govt.
>Ex-military

It still is military.

>>32684065
>It still is military
where is this round still in active duty?

>>32681838
>2nd best non-magnum rifle cartridge
You can't just throw that out there and not follow up.

>>32679483
>>32679077
>>32680423
>A cartridge that has load data for anything that walks on the planet with the right gun
I mean fudds bother me too, but I wouldn't count liking .45-70 as one of their many faults.

>People like things I don't like so let's call them names on a Rhodesian Locksmithing forum.

>>32682512
Dude, you can get a brand new Lee press and reloading kit for like $120 bucks at midway. You really don't need anything else other than calipers and dies from an equipment standpoint.

When I started, I mounted my press, powder measure, etc, to a 24"x24"x2" thick piece of plywood. When I wanted to reload, I clamped it to my kitchen table. When I was done, I un-clamped it, and threw the plywood with the press and all into the closet.

>>32684307
>I wouldn't count liking .45-70 as one of their many faults.
it falls behind 30-06 after something like 50 yards. that's fudd as fuck.

fuddy-fuddy is the most fuddy round

>>32684419
22 nosler is the most fuddy round

>>32683241
real americans kill themselves through overindulgence. long live america.

>>32679193
What about 16 gauge?

>>32684444
checked, but hipster doesn't = fudd

>>32678944
A friend of mine killed a 7 foot alligator with a 17 HMR.

>>32684550
So he had a lizard problem.

>>32678873
257 Wea Mag when you want to knock down deer at 400 yards

>>32678869

I've killed about 20 deer with .243. I wouldn't use it on anything bigger, but it's pretty fucking beast as a deer rifle.

>>32679193
fucking 28 gauge you want useless atleast 410 you can have the little kids learn on 28 is just sad

>>32678855

>32-20
>25-20
>.35 Rem
>.218 Bee
>16 gauge
>.32 H&R magnum

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>>32678873
I beg your fucking pardon.

>>32684161
not him but i think they might use blank firing guns as rope/line throwers or something. no idea if it's in service elsewhere but i'm not aware of the american .mil using it for anything else.

>>32680853
right but the other rounds anon listed were actually practical and are actually used in combat, and you're telling me what i already know: creedmoor is not.

but, it is highly engineered for the singular purpose of going far, going where its told, and being used sparingly. i'm just suggesting it inherits fuddiness even though it probably doesn't go through deer all that often.

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single action rifles are the safest/strongest action used by fudds who toss a couple of bullets in their pocket and walk out the door to hunt

>>32685125

This.

.25-06 will rape a deer.

>>32685073

I've killed about 11 with .243 Win but ever since I got a .308 Win it's been pretty much a loaner gun.

I'm honestly getting that much better terminal ballistics with the new rifle.

I shot one directly where I wanted it (front shoulder, four inches up from the T) on the run and I got a golf-ball sized hole all the way through with Barnes.

Popped another on the walk at 250 with Core-Lokt and honestly didn't land the world's best hit (missed the bone and only got the back end of the lungs) and still recovered my deer.

Idk, man. I got the .308 Win because I shot a large deer down in the rain, and buddy he was big. He acted like he was down for the count. But in such heavy rain, the smaller holes weren't leaking enough blood to track after he got up.

>50 yards
I don't think so
>Also twice the weight, up to 600 gr bullets, and 1.5x the width
Maybe 2 or 300 yards, I will grant you that, but even then, it penetrates like a motherfucker. I'm talking like penetration measured in feet anon.
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>Every cartridge, no matter the performance, that I don't like is a fudd cartridge
Kys. Sage

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GUYS PLS STOBBIT. I LOVE MUH 30-30

My Lever gun is fun ;.;

>>32679242
Every fudd I've met hates .308