Anti-Air Ballistic Missile long in PLAAF service

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>>32668142
The original photo, J-11B along with HU-6 tanker, J-10B multiroles etc.

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>>32668155
The jane's article of last year; spotting this missile onboard a J-16 strike flanker.

https://twitter.com/xinfengcao/status/821038317424627712

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>>32668169
A japanese PLA analyst believes that this missile might be the long rumored PL-21.

https://twitter.com/OedoSoldier/status/821037096550809600

The PL-21 first was designed as a Meteor-like missile, but now it seems like they have switched to conventional rocket motor. Basically like the PL-15 as well, which also was first designed with ramjet too.

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>>32668191
China's AAM developmental history and schedule:

PL-21 was suppossed to be finished by 2012. Maybe they experienced delays due to the redesign, or they kept it under wraps for so long.

I would think both.

Same with the PL-12D, which could have evolved into the PL-15.

>>32668142
I feel like this is important news but I don't have anything to say about it.
..Bump I guess

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Wonder when the J-15s will carry that missile.

China then will really have their own Tomcats.

>I am not being paid by the post, I just like to write a dozen single sentence posts

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>>32668142
>Looks like this monster AAM was long in service already for it to have taken part in China's Red Flag equivalent last year.

Yeah it must have been in service for ages. No way its done for propaganda purposes.

>>32668142
>>32668169
>>32668191
>sources are twitter

god damn this just gets more and more pathetic by the day

Looks like Japan has realized that as well and are now pursuing a Meteor-development with the UK.

The Meteor might have better terminal performance due to ramjet, but that ballistic arc trajectory and terminal hypersonic dash upon reentry of the PL-21 is also quite nifty.

>>32669043
>blaming the messenger

Original source of the Red Sword pictures (Chinese MOD):

http://eng.chinamil.com.cn/view/2017-01/16/content_7454364.htm

and Jane's

http://www.janes.com/article/65922/images-show-plaaf-testing-possible-new-air-to-air-missile


Twitterguys are just well-known PLA watchers who pointed it out.

>>32668142

Probably anti-sat

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>>32669370
Basic idea behind this missile is an ASAT.

But this ASAT falls back down to earth, hitting AWACS and Tankers with reentry velocities in the process.

>>32668142
>in service
>still in testing

Me thinks you need to learn what in service is.

>>32669103
>Chinese MOD and janes reporting from a blog that doesn't exist anymore

gg no re shaking in my boots

>>32668191

>A Japanese PLA analyst

>its some faggot on twitter, with a weeb picture.

+.50c

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>>32669402
>But this ASAT falls back down to earth, hitting AWACS and Tankers with reentry velocities in the process.

>>32669511

Like, what is targeting it? Furthermore, AWAC's like E-2D's will see it coming the entire time.

>>32669551
It's the PLA, they use quantum stealth. The hype will make running dog capitalists blind to their imminent demise. Trump will never build a hotel in the spratleys!

>>32669043
You are fucking retarded. Twitter is just as good (bad) a source as any other nowadays.

>>32669696
You are fucking retarded, as there are plenty of primary sources and fantastic secondary sources on political matters.

Kill yourself.

>>32669433
learn to read

Previously it was thought to be still in testing.

But the official chinese ministry of defense release showing that missile carried by planes taking part in Red Sword indicates that it is in fact in service. Possible introduction date for the PL-21 also correlate with an earlier known chart:
>>32668213

>>32669551
Nope. AWACS too have maximum detection altitudes and blind zones.

This missile flies literally above radar.

You need a space tracking radar to detect it during cruise stage.

>>32669995
>But the official chinese ministry of defense release showing that missile carried by planes taking part in Red Sword indicates that it is in fact in service.

No, it just means they included it (or its concept) in a wargame, possibly. You have no idea if it even left the rail, let alone tested it.

It MEANS literally nothing. Just because the US has a mach 4 sea skimming missile does not mean it has an AShM in active service.

>>32670015

Nope. Not only does the awacs in question (E-2D) range far exceeds the max launch of the missile, the fact that its an aesa radar means it has very good beam steering and thus, great off boresight capabilities, both laterally and horizontally.

>>32670034
Scanned Arrays still have to be pointed in the general direction of the object they intend to track. The possibility of a "Top-Dead-Center" blind spot is real, though it'd take needle-threading avionics to exploit such a flaw.

>>32670100
The missile will still be tracked all the way to the AWACS before reaching this mythical blind spot.

>>32670100
>Scanned Arrays still have to be pointed in the general direction of the object they intend to track.

Well yeah.

hell, even if it was a top dead center blind spot, if they knew such a weapon was incoming they could always just bank.

>>32670034
kek

you do know that you need special sorts of radars for space object tracking, right?

Oh man, you burgers are as pathetic as the russiaboos who claim that their S-400 can literally do everything just because its theirs.

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Using a much larger DF-11A SRBM cruising at 30+km altitude, we can see that the E-2D in fact CANNOT track it.

Hell, why would it? The US has their BMD Aegis ships and sea-based X-band radars for that.

It's a blind spot and a chink in the US' defenses (sic). Deal with it.

>>32670222
>trips
>CMANOposting
Valuable contribution to this thread, Anon!

>using ballistic missiles to take out planes

Only China.

They sure love their rockets.

>>32670176
>you do know that you need special sorts of radars for space object tracking, right?

Why do you think you need a special radar for tracking objects in a vacuum?

>>32670222
>not even max range
>placed right below

kek.

What if i told you the E-2D is an integral part of the theater air missile defense?

>>32670176

Better tell the lockheed they are doing the impossible!

>>32670176
Pot, meet kettle.

>>32670265
>AIM-54
>not ballistic

>>32670284
>What if i told you the E-2D is an integral part of the theater air missile defense?

They deal with the anti-AShM part in the AMDR package. The Aegis BMD is doing the Ballistic Missile part.

Sorry, but you cant mount a space tracking radar on a small plane, even if it is AESA.

>>32670222
So you're telling me that the Chinese can teleport these missiles to cruising altitude without being detected by the E-2 during ascent? Holy shit, we ARE doomed!

>>32670316
>They deal with the anti-AShM part in the AMDR package.

No, the TAMD program deals with SRBM's and MRBM's.

>Sorry, but you cant mount a space tracking radar on a small plane, even if it is AESA.

Better tell lockheed they did the impossible.

>>32670034
> Not only does the awacs in question (E-2D) range far exceeds the max launch of the missile,

You do know what radar horizon means, right?

And the E-2D is a propeller driven, relatively small and draggy plane. It cant fly as high as the E-3 - and even then it is subject to the curvature of the earth when trying to detect a J-11B carrying this missile while flying at low-medium altitudes.

>>32670341
>Better tell lockheed they did the impossible.

F-35, LCS, Zumwalt... Those cases really makes me worry about their competence. Maybe I will tell them.

>>32670366
>You do know what radar horizon means, right?

Do you?

> and even then it is subject to the curvature of the earth when trying to detect a J-11B carrying this missile while flying at low-medium altitudes.

Then it will launch the missile climb as it is well inside its track range.

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>>32670341
>TAMD program

Yeah, E-2D can detect ballistic missiles when they launch from their TEL. But that was not the point here.

>>32670380
>Zumwalt

Is BIW.

>LCS

They only made one design out of two.

>F-35

This century's most prolific multi role so far.

You tried!

>>32670411
>Yeah, E-2D can detect ballistic missiles when they launch from their TEL

Note how your image does not state this.

>>32670440
I was being generous.

In fact, it is stated nowhere.

I googled:

>can E-2D track ballistic missiles

and I found nothing in the official releases. Only that question repeated in forums and a claim by a PooInLoo writing for National Interest.

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Delicious J-10Bs

>>32670465
Oh gee, you googled huh?

*yawn*

http://www.northropgrumman.com/Capabilities/E2CHawkeye2000/Documents/pageDocuments/E-2D_Storybook.pdf

>>32670380
>the F-35, LCS and Zumwalt are bad because otherwise I have to accept the superiority of American equipment

>>32670465

You're pretty lazy, I quickly googled that and I found dozens of results relating to E-2 and BMD.

>>32670518
The best part is the zumwalt is not built/designed by Lockheed, its built/designed by bath iron works.

>>32670486
>Ctrl+F
>"Ballistic Missiles"
>Zero
>"Space"
>Four Results
>"Airspace, Battlespace, Aerospace etc.

>TAMD MISSIONS
>Theater Air Missile Defense
>The Advanced Hawkeye becomes the foundation for a theater air missile defense. With improved detection and tracking capability, the Hawkeye will fulfill an ever-expanding role in littoral and overland operations. Utilizing its open architecture network connectivity, it will be a key network enabler and provide the ability to coordinate time-critical targeting and strike operations.

Where?

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>>32670329

>>32670534

TAMD, which deals with SRBM's and MRBM's exclusively. You tried.

The question now is how much will you struggle.

Spoilers: Struggleing makes me harder.

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>>32670534

Are you retarded or lying?

This is why people don't trust you.

oh boy, it's gonna be one of those threads, and it will reach at least a hundred replies.

>>32670566

Its makes me so hard though. 50san is so cute when he tries and fails to sound smart, or to imply he knows anything~

>>32670566
They have become my favourites tbqh, laughing at triggered deluded chink shills is the best.

>>32670559
Yeah, but does it state that the E-2D is capable of that?

closest thing I found is a repost of an article on that shitty ar15 forum.

And even there, they just say;

>A ballistic missile hitting a carrier strike group is one of the Navy’s biggest nightmares. But the Navy might be able to drastically reduce that threat with the help of an old friend sporting a new upgrade.

>The E-2D Advanced Hawkeye will join the fleet for this summer when the first aircraft is delivered to a training squadron in Norfolk, Va. A central piece of the testing slated for the next four years will be linking the E-2D and its power ful radar into other weapons systems. The network concept is known as the Navy Integrated Fire Control-Counter Air, or NIFC-CA.

>Potentially, the Hawkeye’s radar could identify a missile launched over the horizon and relay a warning to an Aegis cruiser. The ship could then fire a Standard Missile-3 early enough to deflect the incoming threat. That’s well beyond the Hawkeye’s traditional role of airborne command and control for carrier jets.


So, boost phase detection.

Pretty Ok, I guess.

>>32670534

Even the old ass, unupdated US navy official fact file says BM defense...in the E-2C.

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=1100&tid=700&ct=1

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>>32670586
Destroying American Pride is the best.

>>32670588

>muh boost phase

Notice how even your unsourced forum post does not state this.

Im strokeing myself. Please keep going.

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>>32670605

It truly is Zhao

>>32670595
Please dont lie:


>Combined with the shipboard Aegis weapon system, will form the cornerstone of future sea based Theater Ballistic Missile Defense (TBMD).

So, it needs Aegis.

Thanks for proving me right.

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>>32670595

>Combined with the shipboard Aegis weapon system, will form the cornerstone of future sea based Theater Ballistic Missile Defense (TBMD).
COMBINED means IT CANT DO IT ALONE


Dumb Americunts and their wishful thinking,

BTFO

>>32670622

Uhh yeah, being that CEC part of NIFC-CA is the E-2C-D literally replicating an aegis FCS, i would have to say thats a fair statement.

>>32670622

It is always a game of systematics with you, isn't it?

>>32670656
see
>>32670657

Hawkeye 2000 and the E-2D is ageis, not to meantion it needs the missiles on the ships.

I know this might come as a shock, because you are so ignorant, but the E-2 is unarmed.

>>32670657
Yeah, make some more grandiose claims.

UHF radars now have the capability of terminal illumination?

Kek.

Dont say SM-6, since it has an active seeker itself.

>>32670619
>Not wanting a high speed, low drag tactical trailing smoke screen to blind enemies on your 6 during dog fights

>>32670675

Oh, im sorry, i was not aware of a standard missile needing terminal illumination anymore.

Say Sm-2. Say it bitch. God the precum is here.

>>32670672
Yeah, it is important in as far that the E-2D here is getting hit by a ballistic missile. And the E-2D usually flies in front of the carrier group for early warning purposes.

And no, the E-2D still doesnt have the radar elevation to detect space targets.
It is nowhere stated and it also makes no sense, since UHF Band is shitty for that purpose.

>>32670687
>>32670690
HNNNGGGG
This threads truly are the best

>>32670708
>And no, the E-2D still doesnt have the radar elevation to detect space targets.

Oh, you have the radar elevation of the E-2D?

By all means! post it!


Furthermore, are you stating the E-2D cant bank?

>>32670690
What are you talking about, are you gay?

The E-2 will be rekt by the AABM and there is nothing you can do about it, since it cannot even detect it during cruise phase.

>>32670727
SAY SM-2 BITCH. SAY SM-2 NEEDS TERMINAL ILLUMINATION!

OH GOOOOOOD IM SO CLOSE.

>>32670725
See
>>32670222

>Furthermore, are you stating the E-2D cant bank?

Break wont save it from a Mach 6 missile. That shitty plane can only pull a few Gs.

America BTFO.

Next.

>>32670749

>posts a game

KEK.

>Break wont save it from a Mach 6 missile.

Well first zhang, its bank.

Second, it will raise its radar elevation. It can be a nice, gentle curve.

China destroyed.

Next.

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>>32670749
>His source is a fucking videogame

AND HE IS FUCKING PROUD OF IT

HAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH

Sure Zhao, simulators are always perfect HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

>>32670708
>>32670727
>E-2D is alone and has zero supporting assets

I like it truly. This sounds great in a vacuum fiddy cent, but a E-2D does not act alone. It is a single part of a connected group.

Unless of course you are going to suggest that the missile is undetectable by satellites made for BM detection or the other components of Aegis.

>>32670736
Why do you want to hear it?

This was never the point anyway. I said SM-6 to prevent you from bringing up that recent missile interception test, where Aegis shot down a medium range ballistic missile. The E-2D, if it was involved at all, would have had no part in this and surely not used as "FCR", since the SM-6 itself had active seekers.

>>32670023
>Just because the US has a mach 4 sea skimming missile does not mean it has an AShM in active service.

yeah sure buddy, except the US doesn't have a mach 4 sea skimmer.

I doubt they will in the foreseeable future, either.

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>>32670764
>>32670781
Ok, it looks like I won and you lost.

No arguments anymore.

I will take a piss on your flag now. I deserved it.

>>32670795
Oh, its very much does, and its a very well exported mach 4 missile that sea skims.

>>32670791
>“Initial track detections are made by the E-2D Advanced Hawkeye aircraft and are forwarded over our CEC (cooperative engagement capability) network,” a Navy official said. “The ‘from the sea’ kill chain aspect of NIFC-CA results in an SM-6 missile being launched from an Aegis ship at a contact that is located over the traditional radar horizon.”

>Therefore, should things continue to develop with NIFC-CA, the technology brings the possibility of greatly extending the protective envelope surrounding ships at sea.

>“Being able to take on a target that is beyond a ship’s radar horizon is very significant. That is a capability that ships did not have before,” said Jim Sheridan, a Lockheed official.

>Overall, the Navy plans to expand the number of ships with Aegis Radar capability as well as continue to improve the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense weapons system software. The Aegis BMW weapons system software is configured in increments, ranging from Aegis BMD 3.6 to 4.0, 5.0 and 5.1.

http://defensetech.org/2013/10/11/navy-tests-system-that-targets-threats-beyond-radar-envelope/

Must you lie and misrepresent so much?

>>32670805

>claims victory in the face of superior arguments.

Skipping right to this asshurt tactic before post 100? You are losing your touch.

>>32670791
see
>>32670816

NOW FUCKING SAY IT.

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>>32670805
>b..but my videogame, YOU CAN'T REFUTE IT REEEEEE I WON

AHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAH
PLEASE STOP, I CAN'T LAUGH ANYMORE ZHAO

>>32670784
Wow. Now it's a group!

Well, if America is so great, then why dont you just take a few balloons and lift an Aegis Crusier along with your air-group that is attempting an air-raid against China?

Because that's the sort of "Group" you need to have an organic space missile detection and tracking capability for an in-flight air-package. You cant do that with a small shitty propeller plane.

>>32670795
>mach 4
>sea skimming

not at the same time

>>32670843
>You cant do that with a small shitty propeller plane.

oh but they can, and do.

>>32670844
True, its at high mach 2 irrc at 15 feet off the deck.

>>32670816
>Must you lie and misrepresent so much?

Back to you.

WHere does it say that it detected a ballistic missile?

In fact, "Ballistic Missile" and "radar horizon" shouldnt even belong in the same sentence. If you are too dumb to know why, you shouldnt even argue with me.

----
Protip:

It has something to do with "cruising altitude". But dont tell you Mommy.

>>32670867
So then just the target missiles that replicate ASHM that the USN uses for training its defenses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GQM-163_Coyote

>>32670878
>In fact, "Ballistic Missile" and "radar horizon" shouldnt even belong in the same sentence.

Are you saying that BM's are always above the horizon?

Because you would be wrong.

>>32670805
WOW, chinese bathrooms are as full of shit as its posters lmao

>>32670893

Yes.

Now, using OP's logic, the US has a sea skimming mach 4 AShM, because it has something that vagely looks like one.

Actually, thats interesting the more i think about it. It truly shows that its not a lack of know how or ability in creating a supposed high mach sea skimmer, its a lack of want.

>>32670843

Again, I like how total misrepresent what was said to "win" the argument.

But I do like how your unrealistic scenario relies on the fact that an E-2D is alone and TOTALLY disconnected from the rest of the fleet, when that's LITERALLY the opposite of what an AWAC/AWE&C aircraft do.

>>32670878

It is magical, truly magical the skill you have for spinning.

>>32670805

Just an average Chinese bathroom everyone.

>>32670897
I say that BMs fly in space during cruise phase, which is literally the oppossite of "flying under radar horizon".

The E-2D is a great tool against low flying AShMs hiding behind terrain features and cruising below radar. No arguments here.

But a fucking ballistic missile literally flies high in the sky.

>>32670576
I do like watching their attempts to sound dispassionate and 'above it all' turn into vatnik-tier anal rage and shitposting.

>>32670943
>I say that BMs fly in space during cruise phase

This is false because not all BM's make it there.

Furthermore, just because you are in space does not mean you are not under the horizan. GPS sats can be under the horizon.

>But a fucking ballistic missile literally flies high in the sky.

And the E-2D tracks it.

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>>32670922
Because stealthy subsonics are better at reducing reaction time while having a greater range.

>>32670943
>But a fucking ballistic missile literally flies high in the sky.

Which is why it a single component of a BMD system

>>32670966
Yep, but it kind of kills the meme of American inability to "match" other AShM's.

>>32670942

Its South Korean dumbass

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https://americansecuritytoday.com/huge-floating-dock-arrives-san-diego-china-lean/

Why is america using Chinese made dry docks to build its navy ships?

>>32671005

Here we go with grasping at unrelated straws.

>>32670541
The Missile of Edge.

Deals +100 damage to all Burgers.

>>32671005

Because using china for our nigger tier work is an American past time.

>>32671005
You mean why is a shipyard expanding by using Chinese wage slave labor to save money on a low tech item?

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>>32671024
So, building warships is a nigger-tier work?

Holy fuck, who must have built the US submarines then?
Cockroaches?

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>>32671054
Why doesn't this swing outwards?

>>32671054
What warships are going to be built using the dock in question, and how is building a low tech dock the same as building a warship?

>>32671074
Tippest toppest of kek.

>>32671054
Thank you for posting a picture showing that American submarines go out to sea for long periods, while Chinese submarines do not.

>>32671074
>be chink
>Suddenly a storm appears
>Try to close the closest hatch
>You can't because of chinese superior stealth hatch design
>Your ship sinks
>die

kek

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>US talks about defeating China.
>Didn't even attempt to stop the construction of the new island base in the SCS.

Can't sink an island America. Checkmate.

>>32671145
>USS Japan
>USS Taiwan
Get on our level.

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>>32671054
GAME OVER MAN

KEK

Ameributt = Devastated

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>>32670942

Chinese bathrooms are far, far worse.

Imagine literal piles of shit, which smells so bad it would gag a maggot.

ALSO almost all of the public toilets dont have toilet paper.

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>>32671074
Tired old memes are met with canned answers.

>>32670805
>Someone had to touch the wall of a urinal trough to tape those on there so that they could feel a bit better about themselves.

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>>32671145
That's true, runways are invincible, specially chinese made stealth superior runways. We would need to design a new kind of bomb specially made to destroy runways.

I know, I'm crazy as it seems something impossible and I'm sure that no one has ever made that yet.

>>32671198
>Chinks got so butthurt at that video that they literally made a pseudo powerpoint presentation to demonstrate that their ships aren't shit

kek

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>>32671145
I BELIEVE WE HAVE A VIABLE APPLICATION OF 16 INCH SHELLS AGAIN.

>>32671198
>Its not a flaw, its a feature!

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>>32671198

>i-i-its supposed to be wet!
>s-sailors have to empty it with a bucket by design!

The drainage system was obviously overwhelmed, and it didn't take much water to do it.

So you can see why it's fucking dumb that the hatch can be opened inwards at all. It just adds a pointless vulnerability

>>32671198

Wait, so the fact is because there's a TINY drain for cleaning up spillage means that it is okay to have doors that breach easily from storms?

wtf

>>32671240
Oh fuck its you again

>>32671198

Dude, watch the video. It didn't just flood into the """""wet deck""""" it literally flooded into the crew areas. Are you say that was by design?

>>32671198
Wait guys, look closely at the 3rd image on the left. I can't see any ship in there, just sea. It must be one those chinse stealth designs

HAHAAHHAHAHHHAHHA

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>J-11B with PL-21 AABM
>Escorted by J-16D Sino-Growler
>a few J-20s flying somewhat infront

This will kill the American air group.

US AWACS = Jammed by J-16D, then taken out by AABM

US fighters = Mopped up by J-20s that remain hidden due to jamming and them shot down of AWACS

Chinese Fox in the hen-house tactic

>>32671198
>having your ship flood is for stealth reasons

That's true, it's impossible for a air or surface track radar to detect something under water.

>>32671357
>A few J-20s
whoah, slow down there Zhao, you don't wanna risk all your """stealth""" aircraft for a single air group.

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>>32671357
Forgot to mention;

>now helpless US bombers = gun-killed by fucking J-7s

>tfw china will achieve air-supremacy over the US and allied powers in the pacific

Hell, how the times have changed.

Only like 20 years ago they only had a few Su-27SKs with crappy old missiles imported from Russia.

Daily reminder that all advanced Chinese military equipment are just paper models.

America can sleep well, there is nothing to fear from China, they are just bluffing and posing, there are no missiles, no carriers, no jets and no stealth. Vote Trump, make America great again, retreat from Nato and close the economy to foreign imports. All is well.

>>32671220

Gosh, if someone were to invent a weapon that would put a forward runway and the associated infrastructure out of commission, that would really make fixed small island bases short-lived in an actual war.

Perhaps someone should invent a mobile air base which can change position, maybe out in open ocean where it is hard to find and can take cover behind a screen of escorts and air patrols. We could call such an innovation a "ship that is a carrier of aircraft".

>>32668142
Can someone make a china thread bingo pic

>50c
>CHINA STRONG shitposting
>japan gets mentioned
>haha america is finished
>butthurt vatniks
>economics debating on a fucking weapons board

I'm sure there's more

>>32671491
don't bump your own thread, it's unseemly

>>32671517
Indeed my good friend, I truly hope that some nation (Maybe the worlds only superpower, The glorious People's Republic of China) could design such an extravagant ship to perform those activities.

Maybe they could try to use some kind of steam catapults to launch the aircraft and to power the whole thing they could even use a nuclear reactor!

Such a great feat is something that only China could do!

>>32671523
Oh, let my help
>Muh DF-21
>Chinese """stealth"""
>CMANO posting
>ChinaIsGreatDeathToUsa.blogspot.com as source

I'm sure we can get some more

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>>32671517

>american carrier groups

a joke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dkaKnct-z0Q#t=255

>>32671706
Okay, this has got to be a joke. No one can be this pro-china.

>>32671595
>no impressiveposting

apply yourself

>>32671706
Wait a minute Zhao, did you just post a 3D recreation of an American carrier group getting nuked? I mean, I know that you are a retard, but the use of nuclear weapons against foreign assets will obvioulsy be answered with nuclear retaliation.

BTW, congratulations on those 3D effects! they actually looked original and not ripped of some western videogame for once!

>>32668142
>China thinks the entire USAF drops out of the sky if an AWACS gets hit
Did they think Star Wars Episode 1 was a documentary or something?

>>32671706
>3 gourges dam
a joke
>litteral millions of dollars worth bombable real estate to bankrupt chinese investors
a joke

>>32671769
>Nationalist, authoritarian government that heavily restricts outside information from reaching citizens
easily possible

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>>32673154
Correction: only sad indoctrinated maoists can be this pro-china.

Impressive

Truly only China has the technological know how to make a technology work, even America does not know how to.

>>32668142
I think I'm just going to put these here:
http://fortune.com/2017/01/10/china-ballpoint-pens-steel-japan/
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2017-01/11/content_27923223.htm

They just mastered the art of producing a standard ballpoint pen. Seriously.

So, why should I believe they have mastered the art of super high altitude long range, maneuvering, missile? Because some blog shows a xbox huge missile on a plane? Every Chinese missile is bigger than its russian counterpart which is bigger than its western counterpart.

>>32676901
They just mastered the art of producing a standard ballpoint pen, they obviously won't be able to make the fastest supercomputer in the world.

Amirite?
Inb4 making the fastest supercomputer in the world is not as hard as producing a standard ballpoint pen or mastering the art of super high altitude long range, maneuvering missile.

We just need one of those crappy 3d model videos with footage from anime and battlefield 4 as proofs how America will be BTFO posted now.

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>>32668142
So... this is just a clone of the Novator K100, right?

>>32677897
This.
Don't forget about the autistic sources like random charts with numbers pulled out of their asses and chinese characters (with the ocassional western name to demonstrate how better their designs are in comparison to us) and that shitty blog with broken english.

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>>32668169
>Chinks thinking that radar works that way.

What is this, the 1970's?

>>32671074
what the FUCK hahahahha

>>32671145
Why would the u.s. want to prevent China from building its new territories?

>>32678113
It IS a k-100. China got a few samples.

>>32670279
>Why do you think you need a special radar for tracking objects in a vacuum?

Not him. But for the same reason you don't die from radiation when you go outside. You can't just point a radar at space and expect it to act the same.

>>32677872
hahahaha. making the worlds fasstest supercomputer is just being willing to put more processors together to form a bigger cluster. Hell you could probably make the worlds fastest supercomputer by hooking together just every americans old thrown away electronics.

Second did you read the articles? The mastered making the ballpoint pens because they lacked the material science necessary to make the steel in the pens. THAT definately affects the >art of super high altitude long range, maneuvering missile

But then again you are probably a .50 so you wouldn't understand that material quality is especially important for missiles.

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>>32668142
>Anti-Air Ballistic Missile
>Ballistic Missile
>Anti-Air

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>>32670222

>chinks complain til they are blue in the face about how CMANO doesn't proofs anything whenever the US wins
>then present their slanted slant scenarios as unsailable proof

what did he mean by this