The most /k/ game thread. More gunz in it- better game it is

>>32645399
by that logic borderlands is /k/ as fuck

>>32645399
7,62 is good too.

>>32645399
I wish the new ones where half as good as JA2+Mod

>>32645399
Tarkov is pretty /k/, it goes to autistic details to model everything accurately, down to muzzle brakes actually affecting the muzzle flash pattern.

It's still in alpha though and they haven't implemented survival sandbox yet.

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>>32645772
>He doesn't realize this is going to go the way of every STALKER-successor other than Metro
>mfw it ends up f2p with only the vs mode and microtransactions and that's where development stops, and we're all still playing STALKER mods.

Survarium is gonna get survival mode any day now, r-r-r-right?

>>32645399
so is ja2 just a ripoff of xcom 1 or what?
if it is, I'm sure it's fun, but I still prefer xenonauts if I want to relive xcom without dos looking pixels

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>>32645399
STALKER is a pretty /k/ game.
Survival heavy FPS set in the disaster area of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant meltdown.

>>32645420
JA2 1.13 mod. The gun list and attachments / LBE is exhaustive as fuck.

>>32645851
And you do, anon?

Are you psychic?

>>32645875
Whole different box of frogs mate.
Jagged Alliance goes deep into the tactics in a whole different way.

STALKER: Call of Pripyat + Arsenal Overhaul + Call of Chernobyl. Amazing experience.

>>32645893
It's called "being familiar with the development cycle of promising Eastern European titles," anon.

Tarkov has all the symptoms and I'm far from the first to make this diagnosis.

I'd love to be wrong though.

>>32646049
>AO
That's where you fucked up son. AO adds a ton of special snowflake guns that have no business being in the Zone.

>CoC
>STCoP
>Outfit addon for visual variety
>Itemsoup for flavor

STCoP keeps the guns it introduces much more grounded and realistic for a game set in Ukraine.

>>32646113
Give symptoms please.

>>32646254
>Eastern European
>MMO
>Extensive hype machine
>Plays up spiritual and thematic connections to beloved cult franchise
>key gameplay promises and features are talked about but the mode showcased is a completely different thing, and the "star" mode is dismissed as being "not ready yet"
It will never be ready, anon. Soon we'll be playing Tarkov deathmatches ignoring microtransactions and wondering why they haven't said anything about the freeplay survival mode in 6 months.

>>32645399
7.62 Hard Life
Game is broken as fuck but it's the closest to literal gun porn you'll ever get in a game.

>>32646465
>the closest to literal gun porn you'll ever get in a game.
What is World of Guns

Any of the Wargame games desu, but Red Dragon is the best imo

Fallout tactics. Old, strays from the fallout canon, but looks and plays quite well even now. Lots of guns, accurate use of calibers (you can have your snowflake gun, but good luck finding the right ammo), ap, hollowpoint bullets, explosives, heavy daka, somewhat accurate medicine system and so on. Story sucks in comparison to fallout 1-2 and NV, but the game is very playable. There is nothing like blasting a doped up tough guy melee raider to peaces by a short ak burst from your entire squad.

>>32645399
Well, No More Room in Hell is kinda /k/. More /k/ than COD at least...

I rarely see ghost recon 1 being mentioned
the game has a shitload of mods like custom mades campaign, skins and all that jazz

Is bretty gud if you can overlook the graphics

http://www.ghostrecon.net/files2/index.php?act=category&id=14

>>32647677
I miss the old Ghost Recon, and Rainbow Six for that matter. There was actually a sense of danger in it that I don't really get in any games I've played since.

>>32650148
I wish that game devlopers made realistic games like the originals ghost recon/rainbow six

Most tactical games today have a big ass map with nothing to do unlike rainbow six when every map was small (compared to games like arma/squad/) and focused on close to medium range combat

Also im pretty sure that you can download ghost recon 1 with its expansion packs in the site that i linked

>>32646164
>special snowflake guns that have no business being in the Zone.
as opposed to the LR-300?

>>32645399
SWAT 4

>>32650148
I loved the R6 expansion pack that added missions in real-world buildings and settings. I still have fond memories of playing the Taj Mahal mission and just breaking fucking everything made of glass.

>>32645420
Nah, JA2 with the 1.13 mod is literally /k/. It's full of mercenaries you can hire who have literally no military training but decided to grab granddaddy's pump gun and their cheap surplus pistol and fly down to an island in Latin America for $50 a day.

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>>32646156
Superior mercfu with a superior caliber.

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>>32645399
>What is a nation
https://youtu.be/O9kLbrO2vBI

>>32645875
No. It's not at all related to XCom. The most they have in common is inventory management and turn based tactics.

I enjoy both equally (though I prefer Terror From the Deep) and I've been playing them for about 14 years now.

>>32652002
Eagle Watch IIRC. It also added in the Deagle brand Deagle to R6.

I played the shit out of the original R6 and eventually moved on to CS. I remember loading up the WON network, the old Microsoft MPlayer, and Gamespy Arcade to play online matches.

I also liked playing SWAT 2 online. I can't remember which browser it used though.

>>32646426
[different anon]
I'm guessing you haven't been watching the development diaries?
You know, the ones showing them working on and implementing the things they've promised...

>>32651951
STCoP leans heavily on milsurp slavshit, with the guns that don't fit that mold being pretty rare and usually in the hands of people who would have some kind of chance at having them.

AO just floods the Zone with guns that barely exist in the real world with no regard to how they ended up in the hands of vodkanigger fuckups so impoverished that they end up in the Zone trying to eke out a living while by all accounts the world outside is massively benefiting from the scientific advances provided by materials smuggled out of the Zone.

I've played CoC with both. Neither is perfect by any means but IMO one is a lot more immersion-breaking than the other and what's the point of STALKER without immersion?

Of the 3 weapon overhauls for CoC I find STCoP to be the most logical.

A while back someone in /sg/ was working on a big weapon mod overhaul/merge thing he was calling "weaponsgulash" where he was putting a LOT of thought into who/what/where/when/why/how of specific guns being in the Zone. So you'd see rare snowflake guns but they'd only be in the hands of people who would conceivably have the resources to get said gun from the outside, and each individual was tied to their faction's supply lines as well as their experience level/personal means, so most STALKERs were just using civilian milsurp shit unless they specifically had a reason not to be.

Looked promising.

Mostly I'm just happy you didn't recommend MISERY. MISERY a shit.

>>32652775
Like I said, I'd love to be wrong. But I've been through this song and dance too many times in the last 10-12 years to get hyped by really promising shit put out by Slavs. It's like 85% chance it falls apart or only gets released in an extremely diminished capacity, because that's what happens to ambitious Slav games.

If they can deliver on what they're promising it would be incredible but I'm not gonna get invested in it because you can't trust Slavs.

>>32652059
>>32645420
>>32645399
To add, Jagged Alliance 2 doesn't just have Tonnes of Guns (including a setting called that, which does what it says).

You take the role of a professional mercenary leading a team of other mercenaries (many with eccentric personalities) in the fight to liberate the tiny mineral rich nation of Arulco from its evil dictator.

That's why it's the most /k/ game. It even has a guy named IVAN who speaks broken english and Russian.

Also there's nothing accurate about it, but the new DOOM is just fucking amazing. If a game could give me an erection, this would be the one.

So some of /k/ might like it.

>>32652833

I'm playing SoC right now with the Autumn Aurora mod on the hardest difficulty, and I'm noticing that everyone has ridic guns. I found a Saiga 12 in the beginning of the game which kinda bummed me out.

>>32652833
UPDATE:

The CoC repo on /sg/ in /vg/ now contains a download for the weapongulash addon for CoC.

Turns out out got released. Rad.

Arma 3 with a few weapon mods and playing the single player mission Pilgrimage is quite nice.

>>32645484
Could never get further than 30 minutes because it kept crashing

>>32652078

>Playing AC X on PSP - fucking great
>Playing AC:JA on PSP - somebody please put this fucking calamity of the game out of its misery
>Playing AC:AH of PSP - fuckng great
>Playing AC:I on PS3 - jesus christ, who made this pile of digital watery shit?!

I'm fucking confused about this series. There are pure gems here, but mixed with pure manure

>>32645399
I always preferred Fallout Tactics' interface. You have just as many combat options but things are much clearer.

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>>32652078
>Plasama cannons on a f15

>>32652078
Fuck this looks good

>>32654902
literally name one japanese series where every game is made by the same team, and is better or as good as the previous game, every single time and has consistent or improving level of quality every time a new installment comes in

you can't and you're lying if you say you can

>>32652078
>That starfighter

>>32658305
Super Mario/Zelda

>>32652078
When a game looks this good I involuntarily get the thought in my head that says "boy, this'll be really boring to play".

Spec Ops: The Line
That is all.

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>>32645399
I really love how much you get to fuck around with weapons and equipment in this especially with 1.13. That, and the whole setting of fighting a guerrilla war against unnamed banana republic's oppressive government with free hands is like in my /k/ daydream power fantasies.

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>>32659923
>you're attacking during the night while its night
>you're attacking while a rainstorm has just recently started
>you're 3 tiles away from 4 assailants and with your silenced pistol take out each one with an interrupt move when the lightning strikes.
>tfw he was your designated sniper popping heads with 9mm

Good times, being sneaky successfully and launching a full sniper attack at night is some of the most fun in the game. One shots all day, every day.

>>32660225
>during the night while its night
derp

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>>32659923
>/k/ daydream power fantasies

Damn skippy. I'm about due for my yearly playthrough myself, I can't imagine what insane cool shit they've added since my last run.

Every time I come back there's always something (I still can't get over the entire radio subsystem they made from scratch, goddamn).

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Right now playing a ton of Insurgency with the Born to Kill mod. If you are like me and excited as fuck for Rising Storm 2, it's a great way to hold yourself over. I hope like fuck there is another wave of Vietnam games like in 2003.

Check my Vietnam playlist
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj7SjaFcDna30HJBnSVv0C7ldO4ZQ-vbB

I highly recommend Wargame: Red Dragon.


You can do some insanely operator shit in that game.

>infiltrate enemy defenses with Rangers in blackhawks.
>locate enemy artillery in rear
>nighthawk around borders
>no more pions for you
>gg

>>32661254
>enemy sets up a well thought out defense in a city with overpowered Finnish infantry units
>bring out an F-15D
>city now devoid of infantry

also

>countering enemy mortars with ATACMS

NORAD best deck

>>32661290
USA certainly has the highest number of high tech/quality units.

Longbow, ATACMS, DEAGLE, Patriot, A3 Chapparels, M1A2 including HA and HC variants. M8 AGS, Bradley scout vehicle.

I mean it's ridiculous.

And none of that is including the air tab which is FULL of options.


Oh and TOMCATS!!!!!

>>32661513
The Tomcats broke my heart when I realized they couldn't target helicopters.

All I wanted to do was bring in a ridiculously expensive unit for the sole purpose of dealing with recon helicopters behind enemy lines.

As it turns out, ATACMS is a great anti-helicopter unit if the little fuckers stay still.

>>32661575
>>32661575
The A-10 Warhog has a funny way of dealing wi-BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

>>32661768
*warthog

>>32660878
wasn't the last release in 2014?

>>32662128
That's just the "stable" release; they more or less abandoned having sanctioned milestone releases since then and just put out conrinuous bi-monthly updates.

>>32645851
>doesn't know about Escape From Tarkov

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>>32662260
>doesn't know about Escape From Tarkov
>Post is literally about Escape From Tarkov

>>32659923
>against unnamed banana republic's oppressive government

Did you turn of cut scenes?

Because Deidranna is the queen of Arulco and the head of the government you're fighting against. It's pretty explicitly named multiple times throughout the game.

There's a good write-up by Darius Kazemi on the JA series. I paid for a copy a while back, take his name to google and it should be easy to find.

Basically, SirTech wanted to make tactical vidya, and figured the mystique of 80s mercenaries would fit well for style. JA just kinda went from there

Then when they started on #2, they got a lot of fanmail from people who subscribed to Soldier of Fortune (which was their main 'source') and realised how many gamers were also into guns as something more than a utilitarian object for deadening things. To SirTech, they saw guns as upgradable objects. You start with a pistol, go up to heavy pistol, SMG, rifle, so on. Not Glock to 1911 to Python and the like.

That's why vanilla JA2 has the gun selector option - basic is game balanced, simple choices of firearms. Tons o guns is if you want variety in guns and ammunition, which arent as well balanced but it's still perfectly fine to play with. That was added purely to appease their gun nut fans, not a core focus

And that's why the author is dismissive of 1.13s fetish for adding all the guns- because it's becoming less about choice, and simply more bloat. I reckon that's the same reason attempts at JA3 have failed, they don't have the same objectives in design SirTech did, resulting in a mediocre game, even with 100+ modifiable rifles to choose from (see- Brigade E5 / 7.62 HC)

>>32663277
My only gripe with it is that the absurd weaponry options bleed over into Deidranna's troops; sure, let me buy a 10mm Delta Elite off Bobby Ray or w/e, but I shouldn't be finding special snowflake shit like that off of random redshirts.

The cobbled-together armaments angle of her military make sense when you're talking cold-war surplus and the like, but not when it expands out to Canada-only M4 derivatives and Belgian police DMRs.

>>32645399
What game?

>>32663661
Jagged Alliance 2.

What time is JA2 set in, late 80s, early 90s? I've been wanting to do a sort of theme run of only 70s and 80s era guns

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can anyone recommend a fun, yet semi-realistic shooter?

>>32663686
Late 90s IIRC, based on the tech and gear available in vanilla.

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>>32652074
I wonder what my rifle setups would look like in real life

>>32645399

7,62 High Calibre + Blue Sun Mod + Merc Apocalypse is fucking GOAT

And fixes pretty much all the bugs/crashes with the base game.

Hnnng. ALL THE GUNS. And it's real-time. And not tile based.

Steel Panthers needs more love. I'd love to have a large scale /k/ PBEM game.

>>32645851
It will be pay to play but nice memes

>>32645887
IoV mod adds even more items. They were supposed to be working on a 'SFO' version, I dunno where they are at with it though.

>>32663692
CS:GO

>>32663823
i prefer single player. Know any decent ones?

>>32652833
That's high level autism, but I agree 100%
also check'd

>>32660225
>During the night when its night


Can it be day during night?

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Is this a joke

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>>32652775
Have you no idea what the video game market in Russia is like? Slavs gobble up borderline casual pay2win MMO bullshit.

Escape from Target will inevitably go the path of every other Russian MMO and jew you for all your money by restricting normal players to a singular SKS and simultaneously will be utter unbalanced and ugly shit.

>>32663764
I've just no interest in real time though

>>32663764
I love it too, probably 300 hours in it by now
Love nade launchers and shotguns the most. Key with shotties is using the shots with more pellets.

>>32664062
It's a 'we go' system, real time with pause

Nothing stopping you from creeping time forward and giving orders every 5th of a second

>>32663715
Alright it's been ages since i played JA2
What mods are you running for this one?

>>32664676
Looks like bog-standard 1.13 to me, just with some of the more questionable options like head gear graphics toggled on.

>>32660980
I'm with you on this

>>32661513
>>32661290
>>32661254

Hello, I see you are new to wargame.

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Tactical situations : Breach & Clear, Door Kickers

FPS : Ground Branch, Squad

>>32663277
I've always tended towards weapon ammunition standardization and magazine interchangability in my games. Later 1.13 allowed a shitton of mercs, I'd usually have a "squad" with 3 teams that travelled together - the 3rd team using 7.62 GPMG's, Rifles, and DMR's/Sniper Rifles.

That said for people like >>32663366 and me, who get fed up of Diedrannas troops having ALL the guns there are configs that limit the enemyitemchoices to Eastern/Russian/Chinese, Western/US, South American (Mix - Mostly FAL's), WW2, hollywood, futuristic, etc although these configs are usually dependent on Instruments of Violence mod (I always play with it anyway, something about MG Tripods, AGL's, Multipurpose launchers including thermobarics, and a Robot with a KORD or a GSh-6-23, or 25mm XM, or a .50 M2, as well as a shitton of WW2 stuff makes it worth it

>>32663277
Vanilla becomes quite a challenge logistically, enemies rarely drop guns (not that it's important) and they don't drop ammo enough. Keeping your mercs properly loaded with enough ammo to lay the shit on thick can be a challenge

>>32646049
>Jagged
Jagged alliance play it if you haven't. Need modern mods to run it but it's good af (untill niggers try to overrun the first city you take)

>>32666099
I always play with Drassen assault on and faster than normal enemyitemprogression, although I admit it can get kinda gay when you wipe the initial wave and the other two adjacent sectors attack, putting enemy troops danger close to your mercs

>>32666080
I learned early that you never burst fire. Single maximum aim shots only, even with the Minimi and -23/21 machine guns. Helps stretch out you ammo

The best thing 1.13 did- give a purpose to automatic fire and especially having a squad LMG for suppressing fire.

>>32666099
Cap the airport, order your tons of guns and ammo, outfit your guys before you seize the rest of Drassen. Lay it on thick, go for suppression, keep your mercs close enough for security, interrupts, and interlocking fields of fire. I always prefer to defend the Church/Mine Sector - the airport can be a pain in the ass if attacked from the east if you clipped/blew up the fence, and is a royal pain if attacked from the North or esp. the West.
The middle sector (hectors Bar and the child labor factory making T shirts) isn't the most defensible, it's gets hard if attacked from the north or west

>>32666133
Vanilla still had a (worse than 1.13) suppression mechanism, you could still sap AP and cause the enemy to kneel/prone. I looked at it like this, If I had a merc who was out of AP and exposed and a enemy had a good chance to hit him, I'd rather a merc with a bad chance to hit sprayed than took unlikely potshots. Even a -3AP grazing hit from a burst makes a world of difference and will likely throw that enemies shot.
Notice when I refer to burst I mean AUTO. 2/3rd Burst in vanilla, and even in 1.13 in some cases is garbage.

Even in 1.13 I would only use it for riflemen to pick up the effective rate of fire, if they are using M16A2's, while the SAW/gunner is moving up/catching up

>>32666140
First playthrough I got fucked at alma
. Counter attack happened when I was running back to the airport to get better guns and ammo. I had a guy stuck in the church shooting out the windows from prone to hold off the offense but he got shot with a shotgun. When i got back to Pablo it turns out I didn't bribe him enough and bobby ray jewed me. Not enough ammo and shitty weapons, was able to take back alma but fuck...

I like the Antistasi mission for ArmA 3. Long-term resistance mission for Altis and Tanoa.

Damned fun if you have friends and a dedicated night to play, especially if you get those ACRE and RHS-AFRF integrations that make radios work and changes the OPFOR to the Russians.

God damn does it take a long time to complete.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=378941393&searchtext=Antistasi

>>32663929
Ever heard of a midnight sun?

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>>32645399
close combat series is /k/ af

>>32654881
get the blue sun and mercopalypse mods
makes it crash slightly less

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>>32664751
>>32664676
Just 1.13, and there's nothing wrong with visible headgear accessories.

>>32663929
Hence why I called out my own derp

>>32652078
Why is that old man flying?

I hope they didn't fuck it up like they did the last one. Ace Combat is fucking awesome

Where do people get their IoV mod for JA2 anyway, I go to the 1.13 site and forum and it links to some chink shit which I am suspicious of.

Does it just add guns, or also new armor and other shit?

>>32668020
It works, just select the english version.

Ask around the forum if you're having trouble.

>>32668114
So what what exactly does it add, just more funs or anti-fun armor, LBE, etc?

>>32663692
Try out the Metro series.

>>32668426
Lots more funs, more fun accessories, more LBE gear, more nightvision, more explosives, more armour.

Do note that the Kevlar spray coating doesn't work, but with plenty of armour plates for ballistic vests you have some good options. You can also add other accessories to the armour (like gillie suits, camouflage, attaching nightvision/sungoggles to your helmet, kneepads, etc)

The 1.13 also improves upon the interuption system and the means of accurate fire is far better than the vanilla. You get an indication (using colour) to tell you how likely you are to hit the target. For example Red is not very likely, Bright Green is pretty much dead on.

They also changed up burst/full auto at bit too. You can dictate how much you shoot in full auto, while burst is your 3 shot burst (unless its the AN-94). Do note that unless your character isn't particularly skilled with full auto (or are crazy) they'll usually pop off more rounds than they intend to (using up more AP).

The AI are much more intelligent and sneaky as well. They'll hop up on the rooftops if you decide to fight from there, they won't just huddle at the wall and wait for you to come into sight or hop down. They are more likely to seek you out and destroy rather than passively just wait for you (unless you're using silent means of killing your foes).

Also you can set the game so that enemies drop all of their loot. Which really sucked in the Vanilla as you'd rarely get a weapon drop and usually just some ammo and a first aid kit. As such you can equip your guys fair well as you progress through the game.

>>32663692
S.T.A.L.K.E.R

>>32670183
I mean IoV, I got 1.13

I'm playing Arma2:OA right now, fucking around in the editor, making sandbox missions, whatnot.

It's pretty great, considering that it's about a decade old now.
Lack of weapons and options make it a low tier /k/ material though.

I feel like playing something set in the late 70s/early 80s, that pre-rails, MOLLE/ALICE look where some armed forces still fielded battle rifles in large numbers

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>yfw you kill someone with an obrez for a can of beans

>>32663692
Multiplayer: Six: Siege

Singleplayer: STALKER/Fallout

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>>32645399
Surprised I don't see more talk about Siege on /k/.

It's a pretty fun game, realistic enough, and has some legitimate team play that other games like CS:GO sorely lack.

>>32673492
Why does that burgerclap has the safety off on his rifle?

>>32673492
I picked this game up a few days ago and I'm loving it so far. But I'm still getting used to it. It's a refreshing change of pace from what I'm used to.

>>32673513
He's too busy operating during operations as an operator to bother with safeties.

>DEPLOYINGHEARTBEATSENSOR
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>complete chapter 2 of mgsv
>you don't get skullface's sweet ass levergat

>>32673535
Name of the game is gamesense, knowledge is key.

Keep an eye on cams but on your own person as well, rotate if your droned.

Drone out an area, rush in, repeat.

Buy Thermite, Thatcher, Mute, and Bandit as your first operators.

Get good.

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>>32673492
>realistic
>operators can take a chest full of 5.56 before running across the stage and 360-noscoping ur mum
>Makarov has more stoppin' power than a PKM

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>>32673635
It's balance, go shoot up your local police department if you want top tier realistic shoot outs.

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>>32673492
>Not best boy montagne

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>>32673674
I didn't have a Montague image on hand.

But that nigga goes hard if you have a good team to back you up, some serious plays to be made.

>>32673654
It's balanced for COD shitters, not anyone who wants an engaging, realistic shooter.

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>>32647045
Seconded

>>32673714
Isn't he one of three oldest operators in that game. I know tachanka is 50 and thatcher is like 67

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>>32673821
Yeah, he's 48 as of today.

>>32673767
What other multiplayer shooters are there that you believe are better?

>>32673885
Squad, ARMA, RO and RO2, Insurgency are all better.

>>32673948
All of those games are either bargin bin mods or overpriced "Role-Playing simulators".

I play my games to have fun, f-a-m, not argue with other autists and struggle to find games with more than 5 people.

>>32673821
>67
Would any military ever allow a 67 year old man to be on a counter terrorist unit

>>32673998
Rainbow is no normal military

>>32653664
>eccentric personalities
Oh and how.

>top of the line merc Gus
>high stats and skills across the board
>comes with high tier gear
>well respected due to being a long time professional
>sleeps a fuckton cause he's old now

>aforementioned Ivan
>high tier merc
>has a nephew also on the roster, Igor
>Igor is low level, but a decent merc for his price
>Igor has a German friend, Grunty, also a good low level merc
>kills made by friends boost morale
>all 3 like each other
>3 of them in the same squad means any of them making kills will raise all their morale
>few kills in and the 3 of them are at action movie level excitement already

>>32673995
>anything that doesn't let you absorb 5 .308 rounds because "balance" is an overpriced role playing simulator
stay in Siege, plz

Benn playing a lot of Rimworld lately, is it /k/ approved?

>>32673998
Because he's the only one who can operate without fookin laser beams

>>32673998
If he isn't senile. His experience might be worth alot

>>32674244
>Any game that doesn't immediately make you scream in pain and fall over wailing for your life after being hit by a .22 is kiddie shit.
stay in ArmA, plz

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>>32674250

>>32647357
That game was so amazing, it's such a shame about the last 25% being all robots, but the first 75% of that game was fucking amazing. THat weird realtime/action point mix and all the real guns, loved it.

>>32674165
>early on you get access to cheap mercs
>They're not terrible, but they have certain drawbacks
>One is Gumpy, a nerd with a lisp who keeps referencing movies
>No strength, low marksmanship, has allergies
>And the highest wisdom in the game (determines how fast they learn)
>Becomes an autistic God of war very quickly

He is what /k/ dreams about being


Also in the original game, Ivan ONLY spoke Russian. And featured 'Unusually Ruthless' Ruban
>Ruthless for killing his entire extended family with a weedwhacker
>Unusually because he had to recharge the battery twice before he was finished

>>32674250


Guuys?

>>32663692
Arma 3

>Imp merc
>Igor
>grunty
>MD
>Buns
>Ira

I made it through a whole game without hiring anyone else, all with starter characters. MD and Ira's high wisdom makes them not just useful as medics, but general purpose soldiers

Grunty, Igor, and IMP do the bulk of the killing and stealth work

Buns is a great sniper with good gear later on

>>32674730
Sterling is the best sniper, and she has a chipper Brit accent.

>>32674730
"Go to sleep creep"

>>32673492
>legitimate team play that other games like CS:GO sorely lack.
Is this b8?

>>32663929
With NVGs, and break lights... sure <in the JA2 world>

>>32674840
>Sterling

You mean Shadow.

>>32650148
>Tfw recon got turned into epik lvlution and rainbow got turned into csgo
I like siege but jesus christ ghosts got fucked

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>>32674165
Grunty is good enough to be a Dolvich, I think.

>>32673564
>while you're barricading PLUSE is GETTING ACES and FUCKING CAVEIRA

>>32674250

Getting past the intensive micro, Combat Realism is the shit

>psychic ship drop
>send my best shooter with a .50, second best with sniper/binos
>pound it with EMP/frag mortars until mechanoids get pissed
>team is bounding back to base defenses
>fucking incompetent janitor manning the mk19 tries to hit one of the centipedes
>grenade goes far and shreds .50 sniper's legs, gets minigun'd
>to this day, still a crack shot despite missing and eye and a leg

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>>32676925
Your description alone is making me buy this game

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>>32645875
>so is ja2 just a ripoff of xcom 1 or what?
Different. Plus 1.13 is /k/ as fuck.

>>32673774
Is the 2nd chopper being shot down here because of an indirect hit from the first missile? The animation only shows one being directly hit.

>>32673379
>yfw you play in an unpolished empty void of a world running into maybe 3 zombies in 4 hours and the one guy you come across murders you for no reason.

The mod was better way back when you started with a revolver, back then it was actually FUN to team up and explore.

>>32677426
It's going down out of solidarity.

>>32645399
If you are looking for game about door kickers Xeonauts with mods is pretty good. They just replaced terrorist with ayys for reasons.

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>>32645399
Fuck yes. JA2. I've played on a fairly regular basis since the demo was released. I still have the original CD's.

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Call of Duty Modern Gay Fuck Stupid 2

A NUU CHEEKI BREEKI IV DAMKE

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>>32677563
>murders you for no reason
You're one of those fellas that spams I'm friendly I'm friendly whilst getting your ass whipped by someone that obviously isn't friendly. It's a game about killing zombies and each other. There is always a reason for murdering you. In the end there can be only one.

>>32645399

Ja2 1.13 is fucking awesome.

If you want an easy way to set it up (already preconfigured and tweaked) checkout arulco vacations. It's great and actively maintained

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>>32674165
You forgot to add Shadow to the bro team. Son, I am disappoint.

>ultimate lurker
>pays dividends mopping up wounded enemies unseen
>is well respected by Miguel the G-chief

>>32673774
SAUCE??

>>32645875

No, not at all.
It's the most /k/ story you can get.
A group of ill equipped mercenaries straight out of the 80s tries to subvert a country by pure force of arms.

>>32654827
yeah but they're saying the loadouts seem to be fucked up, as in most Military carry SVDs

>>32678802
It looks like Wargame. Maybe Wargame Red Dragoon or one of the older games from that series

>>32677426
Yes. AA missiles have a blast zone that can damage multiple targets if they are close enough together. I've seen a single missile take out half a dozen choppers that were blobbed together.

>>32645399
Project Reality BF2. It's completely free, and has high amounts of realism in mechanics, equippment, and environments, combined with an active playerbase.

realitymod.com

>>32674244
Then play Rainbow Six where you get maximum two hits before you're downed.

>>32678778
>>32674165
>No Lynx, a top tier marksman at a great price
>No Ice who is in a good mood, all around merc at a great price, great instructor, has no beef with other mercs
>No Spider, by far the best Medic in the game

>>32679293
I feel like Arma could be a much better experience than that old ass mod if only the devs gave one single fuck about the feel of combat.

>>32679333
>No Magic
>The guy who can repair anything, pick locks, and steal anything not nailed down
Ok he's kind of pricey.

>>32679374
>the feel of combat
I assume you like revolvers better than automatics?

>>32650148
The old Rainbow Six and Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear were amazing (especially Rogue Spear: Urban Operations with NATO3 weapon mod). With a friend spent we spent hours doing terrorist hunts, armed with a handgun and nothing else. The good old times.

>>32679432
I'm not made of money, I'd rather get more mercs than focus on just one person.

Besides I could focus on one merc for the low price of 3k with the build your own merc program. All while having more mercs capable of filling other roles.

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>>32645420
You know, it kinda is, honestly.
The overt hyper-masculinity and obsession with explosions, lasers, and making every kind of bullet trajectory known to man is pretty /k/.

And that is wonderful.

>>32679992
This.

Borderlands is fantastic.

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>>32673470
>fallout
Get the fuck outta here with that shit

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>>32663692
Squad

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>>32680074
My Fallout is filled with AKs and SCARs and G3s and ARs, thanks to mods.

>>32680074
In all fairness, he did say Fallout.

Not Fallout 3 or 4.

>>32645399
Does this even run on modern computers? JA was my favorite game as a kid. Someone needs to make a tablet port of JA2 pronto. I've looked damn hard for anything JA or XCOM style for the iPad to fuck with at work

>>32680320
I used to play this on Windows 95 and it works just fine on Windows 8. If there are issues with it on Windows 10 you can be sure that people have found a fix.

>tablet port

That sounds pretty clunky for the real time aspects of the game. I could see it working for a game style after XCOM, but not for JA or JA2.

>>32680074
Fallout 1 and NV are really good, and I've never gotten past the beginning of Fallout 2 but I hear it's good too. Fallout 3 and 4 are Bethesda's lazy cash grabs, not anything like the real Fallout series.

>>32680131
>Putting modern guns into a game famous for its fictional retro-future world

>>32680358
Fallout 2 is really good. However, it certainly helps to know a bit of the game in terms of quests and knowing the various builds.

As with that knowledge you can craft a very all around strong character who can handle themselves in most situations.

Whereas Fallout 1 you just needed to read books for small arms, get a sniper rifle, farm up on DeathClaws at lvl 3. Spend you skill points on Energy weapons, get a plasma rifle (upgrade it as soon as possible), and with power armour you were nigh invincible.

>>32680382
>P90s and G11s were in older Fallouts

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>>32645484
>mfw loading AP+HP+AP+HP into my ak mag
>mfw taping two magazines together
>mfw cooking a grenade so it airbursts above a group of bandits
>mfw laying MG fire from an elevated position on some fools
>mfw carrying six (6) C96 mausers on me and dropping them one by one as they empty out
>mfw blasting fuckers off with shotguns
fucking 7.62 man

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>>32680461
>tfw Fallout 4 could have had P90's or G11's

>>32680131
Where can I get that lingerie mod?

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Forever and always.

>>32680382
>not realizing that the retro futuristic theme was low key and mostly hidden until bethesda made fallout 3

>>32680502
Even if a retro futuristic game they would have gotten to the point of making guns similar to what we have today. I mean they are over a hundred years ahead of us when the bombs dropped.

>>32645399
What game is this?

>>32680537
Jagged Alliance 2

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>>32680470
>mfw they could have the other AK candidate designs
We could have had TKBs, but no, have to go with what the normies would know as an ak

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>>32666080

This.

What made vanilla JA2 hard in late game was the combined facts of:

1) Enemy not dropping much 7.62x51 which was good enough to put down enemies during a single turn.

2) Enemy greyshirt elites taking 5.56x45 like Tony Montana, getting to play their turn before dying - which slowly accumulates into your squad getting badly wounded after every few sectors.

Somebody have a download link for JA 2 plus the mods people keep talking about?

I always wanted to get into this game but it always stressed me out and I uninstalled it before venturing into it.

>>32674304
>rimworld
so its basically dwarf fortress

>>32666133
>>32666158

I think the suppression mechanic really was there, even in vanilla JA2, but it was fucked and did not work as it was supposed to - some calculation stuff that never got fixed despite numerous patches.

Basically it worked but had very little effect. IIRC they fixed the code in v1.13.

>>32680571
Still didn't stop me from beating the game in its Vanilla form. It was tough, but it was doable.

You just have to supplement with lots, and lots of mortar fire.

>>32645399
This game seems pretty neato, should I play the vanilla first or just start out with 1.13?

>>32680603
How about this. If you're interested in the Vanilla, play the old demo (you can still find it online). If you like it, then play the full game on Vanilla.

If its too much for you, stick with 1.13

>>32680541
Thanks

>>32680618
The demo: http://download.cnet.com/Jagged-Alliance-2-demo/3000-2119_4-10022398.html

Played this plenty when I was a kid, first played it when I was about 10. Fun stuff.

>>32680634
I already have the the game, I'm just wondering if I would be better off starting with 1.13. For reference, I think Fallout 2 is the greatest video game my geek ass has ever been graced with.

>>32680571
>Everyone except IMPs have a reaction to Mike
>Everyone but Ivan, Magic, Ice and some other senior AIM member shits their pants in awe

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If anyone is really into the management/RPG game style, this one is fun. You basically are a wannabe ninja who gets eaten by cannibals.

>>32680678
Better to start off with 1.13. Again the demo is a good litmus test to see if you like the Vanilla system. It'll wreck you hard if you're not careful. Especially when ammo and guns start either running out or breaking down on you.

The demo will give you an insight on the kinds of attachments you can get and it removes mercs having beef or being best friends.

You start off with Ivan, Shadow, Dr. Q, Vicki (ambi-shooter), and Gasket (most useless in the demo, normally hates Ivan). The mission is simple kill all the baddies on the surface level and in the basement of the complex.

The demo is just a quick and easy way to play the game without having to invest much into it. If you don't enjoy it, start off and only play 1.13.

>>32680382
>Fallout 3 was my first Fallout game
The whole "it's literally the 50s but with lasers and robots xD!" is a Bethesda meme. In OG Fallouts it's more of a sense of "everything still uses vacuum tubes and science works like it did in pulp stories from the 50s."

>>32680382
>FNV has ARs
>3 has AKs
>1/2 has Pancor Jackhammers, G11s, P90s, H&K CAWS, Deagles, the Blade Runner gun, FALs, and a Barrett M82A1
Never played a Fallout game that predates 2008, huh?

>>32681078
Imagine his face if he played Fallout BoS?

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>>32680470

>tfw fallout 4 is shit

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Xenonauts is a fun one that is basically an unofficial version of X-Com UFO defense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95Vj9F9v_dY

>>32682023
One f Jef does pretty good playthroughs of ja2 and xenonauts on youtube

>>32682023
I hated how every enemy is a bullet sponge in Xenonauts. In the original UFO, heavy plasma had a pretty high chance of killing mutons and ethereals in one shot.

In Xenonauts, not even MAG weaponry downs x-rays reliably. Annoying as fuck.

>>32682826
>When Jef still made well edited videos and didn't only stream.
>Before Jef became a cynic
Good times

>>32666289
bridge too far my nigga

>>32673492
>Watch E3 (((gameplay)))
>Watch pre-launch gameplay
>Play the game at launch
>Play the game now

The first two are enough reason to know why we hate this game.

The last two are enough to know why /v/ hates this game.

>>32683278
well said anon

>>32680131
>the game is fine if you mod the living shit out of it

There's a difference between a game that is very /k/, and making a game very /k/ with mods.

>>32679992
Isn't the writing kinda trash though?

>>32663938
Cataclysm DDA? Is that in the base game or a mod?

I keep wanting to do a playthrough in JA2 1.13 where I use only the older weapons, not necessarily WW2 but like Cold War era guns. Battle rifles, revolvers, SMGs with wood stocks, etc.

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HNNNG! Squad is becoming much more worth it.

>>32674730
With Buns on your team, it'd be difficult to hire anyone even if you wanted to. Her MERC-tier social skills really hurt a lot of early team compositions.

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Bitches don't know 'bout muh Blitzkrieg.

>>32684611
She is a cheap instructor. You use her to focus on making militia while you push forward. That 94 wisdom isn't anything to scoff at.

>>32680591
From what I gather, yes.

Just a little more approachable.

>>32680591
Rimworld does some things better than DF, but DF is the more in-depth building game. In-depth in more ways than one, since rimworld completely lacks Z-levels.

Rimworld for example does calculate temperatures between different rooms and outside, and you will need warm clothing if you are to survive through the winter in the north. RW has a better prison system, where you can imprison raiders and convince them to join your colony. RW lacks DF's water physics, and colonists don't actually need to drink at all, but it does allow you to harvest organs off of prisoners and sell them to traders.

Oh and mods. RW's modding community is sizeable and new mods pop up by the day. People have already made mars colony mods with air pressure modelling and everything, as well as cthulhu mod where you can found cults and worship the old ones, sacrificing prisoners and shit to them.

I'd say that DF is more macro focused, with you being completely unable to directly control dwarves aside from drafting them and telling them where to stand, while RW is more about the indivudual colonists.

>>32684072
Base game with no mods

>>32645883
That goes without saying. lurk moar.

>>32684130
>0:17
I don't think I've ever physically screamed because of a webm...

Graviteam/Achtung Panzer.

>>32662300
He's saying you suck at the game, I think.

>>32680468
Airbursting grenades is SO good, especially with the crazy ones like the F1.
and don't forget running up and kicking the shit out of a dying enemy

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>No Graviteam Tactics
Sad!

>>32645399
dat waifu tank simulator from japan

>>32687393
>>32687187

>>32663277

brigade E5 and 7.62 i will say unironically are better ideas than JA2

They fail as games not because of what you just said but because the features outside of the combat and equipment mechanics are lacking. E5 is basically a tech demo with no coherent story and repetitive missons. 7.62 is slightly more polished but again lacks an interesting story or locales. Its actually a dumbed down version of E5 amazingly, E5 had enterable buildings with large amounts of rooms, 7.62 you can count on one hand the amount of enterable buildings and the geometry is simple. E5 also had a working suppressive fire system whereas it is it does absolutely nothing in 7.62 where you are better off making everyone marksmen.

But without a doubt the smart pause system and inclusion of actual bullets, true los/aimpoint, real cover provided by actual geometry etc is 100% an improvement over JA2's turn based rpg mechanics.

JA2 isnt really a tactical game in the sense most people mean with that term and I'm not sure where this undying belief comes from. Its an rpg with guns, which is why you can win the game with absolutely goofy and cheesy tactics.

>>32687393

> tank fetish simulator
> infantry combat is poorly simulated
> GUI is absolutely horrid.

these small sim companies complain (especially battlefront who will winge constantly) that theirs is a niche market because of how ~real~ their sims are, but the truth is their products are not successful with a wider audience because the design is trash.

There is nothing in a simulator that requires unintuitive, bloated or tedious GUIs and control schemes.

>>32687530
Memorizing the GUI is half the battle!

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>>32687530
>Not having a tank fetish
Animegirlslaughing.gif
It's the only game I've played that really gets that sense of scale across to me.

>>32687583
Any good tips on defeating enemy air support? Have a massive hate boner of Il-2's right now.

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>>32687611
Not very much you can do desu. What I find to work best is to just have a shit load of MGs and hope they shoot down a few. Otherwise, hope they don't hit something TOO important

>>32687663
Ah, didn't think so, thanks anyways. I'll continue to ease my pain with Nebelwerfer barrages.

>>32687583

i dont mind tanks but its a bugbear of mine with the simulation market.

its almost entirely focused on only either the armored or air aspect, and infantry is treated as an afterthought not simulated at all where they are just used effectively as lemmings.

to me the depth and breadth of infantry combat is just as interesting as armored combat. The only game that even comes close is combat mission series from shock force onwards.

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>>32687713
Oh Jesus nebelwerfers are absolutely devastating.
>Have to take a village
>Have two nebelwerfer batteries on station
>Don't want to just run at the town like the last 100 times and lose all my men
>Decide to soften up the town before I go in
>Have never used nebelwerfers before, not sure what to expect
>Call it in
>Lidice 2.0
>Just stroll into the village, not even a shot is fired
>Of the 200 Russians defending the village, 190 were blitzed and the 10 survivors just straight up deserted
>Lost only one half-track when it inexplicably flipped on a bale of hay
>Wasn't much of a town left to take
Would raze again t.bh

>>32687865
>Two Nebelwerfer batteries
There used to be a town here?
Only thing better would be if we could fire gas cannisters. Though Nebelwerfer incendiaries seem a bit dubious, they kill T-34's in one hit.

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>>32687865
Incendiaries are more effective than HE imo. They do a good job of getting infantry wherever they are, and leave behind buildings for your men to hole up in and defend. But if you really REALLY want to level something, use HE barrages first, then follow up with incendiaries to mop up infantry.
Also as a side note, if you just have normal arty with smoke rounds, you can drop those on infantry as WP. Burns nice, and also provides some screening for your troops.

>>32646506
Literal garbage since you cant "play" offline

>>32688056
I'll use any artillery I've got, anything 105 landing near you will fuck your day up, still scared of on screen arty though. Pretty sure they just aim at their own.

Are you crazy people? Where is ArmA 3?

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>>32688095
Yeah the howitzers are weird. I still have no idea how to use them for indirect fire support. I just use them as big AT guns or some sort of direct fire.
Also if you're feeling lucky you can use the tanks to squash things. Don't recommend it though, but I think it's fun.

>>32688189
I thought the Firing leaders were like spotters but it didn't seem to help much when I moved them to the front so I've got no clue. Did have one match where I looked at the penetrations and there was a load of 10.5cm pens though, never noticed Howitzercoming in though.
In Russian armour sure, not trying that in anything German though, a Russian sneezes and a field gun pops out.

>>32688221
Yeah for some reason Russians have 45mm AT in their shoes at any given time. There is always one, and you will always lose a half-track to it. Also the molotovs are nightmares in a bottle.

>>32645399
DOOM

>>32688278
>That's a nice marder you have there friend....

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>>32688348
>AAAAAAAAAAAA
If you can, stay away from roads that pass the woods. Skinwalkers aren't the only things in there...

>>32678756
Yeah, no, I am going to go play Rust instead.

>>32688395
What even happened here? Gonna have to start taking screenshots after seeing yours, some much fucked up shit happens in this game I swear. One massacre after the next.

>>32688173

As someone who has been a fan of the series since OFP, I can say unequivocally that arma 3 has been RUINED by dayz knockoffs and the 3rd person disease

Good luck finding good pvp in arma 3, it doesn't exist. coop yeah thats nice and all, but the amount of set up involved in getting mods, joining a group, mission desinging yadda yadda

its tiresome. Once escape from tarkov comes out i dont think ill ever bother with arma again.

>>32684711
I have this game, and RT-BH. Infantry AI and pathfinding drives me fking nuts. I always disband when they are not in trenches or buildings.

>>32678778
>>32679333
Well, I didn't say they weren't good, I was just talking about some amusing personalities on the roster. Speaking of which,

>Bobby "Steroid" Gontarski
>Polish Arnold Schwarzenegger clone
>trying to hire him while he's out gets you his answering machine
>Hello, Robert Gontarski is, er, UNAVOIDABLE right now. Tell me who you are and what you want

Too bad he hates Russians, so you can't have him and Ivan/Igor around at the same time.

>>32645399
Jesus how do i get 1.13 working on Win 10 with JA 2 Gold from steam?

This is much more fucky than i remember it.

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NEGRO please

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>>32689254
run in compatibility mode?

like windows 98.

that and set the CPU affinity to 1

(you can do all this in the task manager)

>>32689301

Literally just reinstalled. Are you me?

>>32645883
Lurk moar

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>>32689394
i played the shit outta it with my bro on ps2
good times

>>32645399
Anything with the name Clancy on it is basically gun/military porn. At least if you like your military to be high-speed/low-drag tight groupings and tight pants and you're totally ok with sucking all that cock.


>>32645420
>borderlands is /k/ as fuck
It really is. In a give-no-fucks and collect all the guns you can. I mean, you kick a toilet in that game and guns explode out of it.

>>32650148
>and Rainbow Six for that matter
R6 was amazing, even though the novel was pretty trash (see Clancy above). Clancy is literally a military pornographer who spends paragraphs talking about the coiled athleticism of spec ops soldiers as they lope through the darkness to their prey, invisible in their terrain specific camoflague but seeing every detail in their nvg as they grasp their finely crafted weapons and take silent shots at the tangos, the bolt in the mp5sd being the loudest sound in the night, little more louder than a chirping cricket, totally unheard by their targets who fall with clockwork precision...and if that sentence got you hard then Clancy is your thing.

The game was outstanding though, I'm not sure we've seen anything that involved those kind of planning mechanics since. R6:Vegas was a slap in the face, even though it was a really great game, it just wasn't anything to do with the rest of R6, it was basically Splinter Cell: Cops.

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>>32689421
i'm glad i'm not the only one that like borderlands

>>32689443
The first one is the best in my opinion. Exploring a desert planet looking for a massive treasure, blowing every motherfucker there out of your way.

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>>32689474

>>32689497
its fun times. better than suddenly pretending the vault hunters are noble rebels, when they're basically spacefuture stalkers.

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/k/ enough for you /k/ucks?

>>32689659
It would be more /k/ if you played as the nazis.

what about quakeworld and battlefield 1?

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>>32689671
agreed.
you can steal their uniforms though and walk around with impunity

>don't want blood on ur fancy duds

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>>32645484
This game is ruining my life. I have 200 hours and it keeps climbing, this glitchy, janky broken mess of a game is utterly fantastic. BSM makes it so much better too, essential /k play in my opinion.

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>>32688395
Roadside ambush. Russian infantry were in the treeline, and the half-tracks didn't see them until it was too late.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VhQxqH8KuI
S T E E L A R M O U R
B L A Z E O F W A R

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>>32645399
Crysis

>be SOF with experimental armor
>OH FUCK SHIT MY PARACHUTE BROKE AAAAAAH
>Turns out alright
>Proceed to wreck some commie asses
>OH FUCK SHIT TEAMMATES ARE SNACHED OUT ONE BY ONE
> Meh, proceed to wreck more commie shit
> Marines are come, OORAH!
> Kill lots of commies
> Turns out this commie is chasing for alien power source
> Ends up waking the whole aliens
> Welp, switch to alien removal mode

This game is fucking awesome

>>32689525
This. The first one had a consistent theme; the second and third were just...very meh.

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Anyone got one of them STALKER infographics on getting started?

Seeing people here enjoy it so much makes me want to give it another chance.

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>>32691425