What is the best AR-15 I can buy for around $1000? It will be

>>32638504
The one you build.

>>32638517
I know but I have zero experience building guns I don't want it to blow up in my hands when I fuck it up.

>>32638504
Oh shit, that's Jaime Lannister. Filename makes a lot more sense now.

>>32638530

m8, building an AR-15 is butt-fucking easy. It's literally legos that snap together. The only hard part are putting in the roll pins. Just get some quality punches and you're set my man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8sY5CQmlHI

>>32638530
buy Daniel Defence or go looks up a nutnfancy build.

nutnfancy is annoying but the AR's he builds do work.

Colt LE6920 or Sig M400 will run you around 1000. Both of these are fine rifles if you don't want to build anything and just want a complete rifle, but you could build something a lot better for your money too. You don't need to order every part seperately either. You can get a complete lower and complete upper, a parts kit, or a stripped lower and go from there. There are plenty of in betweens.

My advice, build a 600-700 dollar Palmetto State Armory rifle and spend the rest on accessories and ammo. It's what I did

>>32638530
>what is youtube
>what is the internet
>what is buying a complete upper
If you manage to fuck up pinning a completed upper to a lower you should have your hands lobbed off.

>>32638504
Colt LE6920. Ask around on the rest of the internet before you take these autists word for gospel.

>>32638570
>>32638576
>Colt LE6920

I'll never understand why people recommend these when you can get lightweight bbl 6720s for between 8-900.

>>32638867
>6720
What makes it different from the 6920?

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>>32638504
I bought my DDM4v1 for $1100. Just keep an eye out on GunBroker and you can actually get some good deals.

>>32638889
Nothing besides the lightweight barrel and the fact they can be had for less.

>>32638504
Spend more for a DDM4V7 LW or spend 800 bucks on a Colt 6720.

>>32638517
fuck off

>>32638504
Get a Daniel Defense. You won't regret it.

>>32638951
Building is like half the fun. Hell, it's not even building. It's putting the two pieces together and pushing in two pins at this point.

>>32638963
You trust OP, who isn't even sure how to spend a grand on an AR, to build his first one?

Let's be honest here, this is k/. Most people here have double digit IQs.

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>>32638917
Are you me? I got mine for $1100, except its a M4V3, very happy with it so far.

Don't spend a grand

Buy a good starter AR like a m&p sport or Ruger and save the rest for when you know what you want

If you want to piss money away on a DD or something be my guest but just telling you straight.

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>>32640212
I just picked up a sport 2. Nice gun. ARs are just cheap right now.

All the stores stocked up in anticipation of a Hillary/Gunocolypse panic buying spree. Now they are loaded down with these guns and looking to get rid of them for a steal. I got mine as a package deal with a nice optic, 3 mags, 200 rounds, and a nice sling for $900.

>>32640563
I wish it would be worth it to own one.

>>32638963
Plus, the satisfaction when you finish and mate the upper and lower is just great. The whole process is easy as pie but still...

>>32638530
Can you follow directions, tighten nuts and pound pins in holes? It's not very hard.

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Here you go senpai. Probably the best way to go. Prefect balance of build your own and budget starter

>>32640790
It really is not very difficult, but unless he has all the tools already, it will cost him a few hundred just to get set up.

Many of us find it satisfying to build from the ground up, but some people don't have the confidence to do it or it simply doesn't appeal to them when they can simply buy a built rifle.

>>32638570
seconded.

>>32640212
Don't buy an M&P Sport or a Ruger

>>32642680
What's wrong with them?

>>32642703
M&P Sport:
- 1:9" twist rate
- 4140 heavy barrel
- carbine gas
Ruger
- it's Ruger

>>32642752
Forgot about the barrel switch on the m&p is it really 4140?

>It's Ruger

Not an argument

>>32642782
Yes, it's been 4140 since like 2012 on the original Sport.
>Not an argument
>he doesn't remember Bill Ruger
The AR-556 has the same problems as the M&P Sport, although the 1:8" twist rate is an improvement.

>>32642805
Bill Rugers dead bud

>>32642845
Doesn't matter, fuck his family too

>>32642865
>Implying modern Ruger isn't the opposite of fudd Ruger

>>32642680
Why?

Ive put 1,200 rounds thru mine so far and the only issue ive had was a single stove pipe... been to 3 competitions with it and placed well. Accurate out to 300 yds and great for the plinking pit.

Something i should be aware of ?
For the price its seriously a solid fun little gun.

>>32642918
Some people are picky about barrel steel

I mean I guess I sort of understand the other anon in a way being that a PSA gun with 4150v can be built for less and with a midlength, but I have no probs with 1:9 for a average guy rifle who's not going to be shooting 62 grain +

Would prefer 1:8 though

>>32642918
For not much more you can have 4150 steel in your barrel.

Also never buy anything from anyone who described either 4140 or 4150 as CMV or anything mentioning vanadium.

>>32642930
>>32642956

Oh; noted.. ive heard that around before actually; figure when it takes a shit id pop in a green moutain or something

why 1:8 vs 9 ?

>>32642985
You can stabilize heavier (really longer, but usually for the same caliber heaver = longer) bullets. 1:7" is the standard now, but some use 1:8" because they believe in overstabilization which is a myth.

>>32642956
What the fuck 4150 is always CMV

Even ballistic advantage which is highly recommended as mid range barrel uses 4150 cmv

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>>32643041
>What the fuck 4150 is always CMV
Please point to the vanadium in this alloy.

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>>32643065
Every single 4150 barrel I have seen is listed as cmv

>>32643074
Hint: it's because they don't know what they're talking about.

>>32643087
Then point me to a 4150 steel barrel that isn't cmv

>>32638504
>AR
>good
Another doomed thread
Who let you kids in here?

>>32643094
Literally any because 4150 does not contain vanadium.

>>32638536
Fucking kek

>>32643105
So they're just lying ? It's marketing bullshit?

So why do you tell people to avoid it if 4150 by it's very nature doesn't have fucking vanadium and every single manufacturer and seller lists 4150 as cmv?

>>32638822
Just do this. Seriously.

>>32643113
>So they're just lying ?
Maybe or they just don't have someone smart writing the product descriptions.
>So why do you tell people to avoid it if 4150 by it's very nature doesn't have fucking vanadium and every single manufacturer and seller lists 4150 as cmv?
Avoid 4150 listed as CMV steel because you don't want to buy guns from idiots, do you? :^) I meant it mostly as a jab to low effort companies like Ruger and S&W.

>>32643119
Don't do this. Get the 6720 over the 6920. The 6720 is lighter and cheaper.

>>32643125
So list me a manufacturer and retailer who does not list it as cmv because everyone I have found does

>>32643136
KAC, Daniel Defense.

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>>32643154
DD doesn't even list steel it just says this

>>32643170
Yes, that is the point. CMV steel is not AISI 41xx so they don't put it.

Are you done now?

>>32638504
Just buy a completed lower with a stock you like and a completed upper with a barrel you like from PSA. Then the only assembly you need to do is no worse than what you do to clean the gun, meaning pushing in two pins.

>>32643202
4150 isn't cmv by default cmv refers to additives used to give it corrosion resistance etc.


You're being disingenuous by linking the composition of 4150 ignoring that 4150 cmv is different .

DD and KAC don't list it as 4150 cmv because when they list cmv its obvious.
Look it up this isn't hard to find out

>>32643248
4150 CMV isn't a thing. If you add vanadium to 4150 it is no longer 4150. The only disingenuous statements here are those who refer to it as 4150 CMV.

Go learn some shit.

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>>32643256
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?37-Barrel-Steel-4150-4140-Chrome-Moly-CMV

Rude nigger read that

People like you who are so smug and sure of themselves are sad to behold. Don't act like you're above being wrong because you read some things on the internet.

>>32643277
>AISI doesn't know what they're talking about but some fool faggot on M4C knows
Yea, it's time stop.

>>32643284
It's literally bravo company that sent a colt barrel to be tore down you rude immense fuckwit. Read it.

>>32643298
>AISI who have been around in some form since the fucking Bessemer process doesn't know what they're talking about
I don't know how to make this any clearer. 4150, in fact no 41xx series steel grades, have vanadium in them. Full stop.

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>>32643364
I'm done with you if you can't admit to being wrong after all of this.

Going to bed. I'm sure this will be up when I wake and I can see more of you're rude raging and refusal to admit you're wrong.

But yeah some kid on 4chan knows more than bcm, and multiple manufacturers that don't say what you do.

>>32643397
Take it up with AISI.

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>>32641308
>unless he has all the tools already, it will cost him a few hundred just to get set up.
This myth needs to die, it's like you retards think a vice, 2x10, and mounting hardware from Home Depot cost a lot and can't get a $10 armorer's wrench and $20 vice-block set from Amazon. Picrelated was under $100 and handled two AR builds easily while I was in a fucking gradstudent apartment.

>>32638570
This is what you want to do OP

>>32644806
no>>32643131

>>32638570
>>32638822
>>32641347
>>32643119
>>32644806
>People still suggesting 6920s
>2017
You mouth-breathers hold others back with your ignorance, Jesus. If someone simply must have a prebuilt 16" carbine gas AR, the least you could do is suggest something like M&P Sport II or the Ruger 556 that won't needlessly charge four-figures for a mediocre quality rifle with a faggy barrel profile

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>>32638504

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>>32638504
>What is the best AR-15 I can buy for around $1000?
pic

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>>32644901

>>32644888
>people are still suggesting these guns
AR6720
R
6
7
2
0

200 bucks more than the Ruger and S&W shitpiles are you get a lightweight barrel.

>>32644923
Never said they shouldn't get that either you fuckwipe

>>32638565
Or put electrical tape on the ends of channel locks and squeeze them in. Easy peasy.

>>32644923
>the Ruger and S&W shitpiles
They're actually pretty decent quality but okay.

>>32644954
No, they aren't.

>>32644980
Please explain in detail.

>>32644773
I've been dreaming of a garage so I can one day have a place to put a vise and now I can just buy 2x8. Why didn't I think of this?

>>32645009
You can put a bench vise on any table top surface, the fuck is wrong with you?

>>32638517
build it, its not that hard and theres videos. your going to spend 1000 bucks on a gun then end up spending another 500 making it how you like it when you can spend 800 and make it the way you like it. pro tip get a magpul stock

>>32645023
Maybe he's in an apartment you dumb shit

>>32645026
Do apartments not have tables these days?

What about the Springfield Saint?

>>32645030
>An apartment
>Limited space
>Lets pay more money for an entire table to sit around just so I can build an AR
vs.
>Pay like $5 for a board that you can just shove under your bed when you're done

Fucking use your brain holy shit

>>32638504
PSA premium rifle kit with FN made CHF barrel. like $500 or some shit.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-mid-length-5-56-1-7-premium-rifle-kit.html

>>32645045
So apartments no longer have tables?

Is buying a Mil surplus Comp M2 worth it for $325?

>>32645071
You are so goddamn stupid

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I built this for rifle for $550 and I live in an apartment. I bought a vise off of Amazon, a few punches and had fun.

It's easier than building a computer and much easier than changing spark plugs.

With those savings, you can go free float, get a match barrel, a better bolt carrier and a drop in trigger assembly.

>>32645103
I'm stupid for expecting a dwelling to have a piece of furniture standard since recorded history?

Wow

>>32645117
>I keep tables around with tools bolted on to them in my apartment for no reason when I could do the same thing with a board that can be shoved under a couch or bed
So on top of being an idiot you're some classless hick? I bet that'd get the ladies moist, come over for dinner and there's a fucking vise right next to the tortellini. A fucking Casanova you are, Billy.

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>>32645117
do you live in or have ever lived in an apartment?

believe it or not there's usually not a lot of space that can be dedicated to a table that's only meant for building ARs on...

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>>32645149

Vises are bolted onto tables because they need rigid bases to securely hold items in place. Unless you fasten the board onto the table, the vise isn't going to do shit besides be a liability. Besides, vises nowadays come with detachable bases for easy storage.

>>32638822
>>32638867
>>32638889
>>32638937
>>32643119
>>32643131
>>32644923

Do not listen to these faggots, I owned a Early 2000's colt and it was a jammomatic, and quality has nose dived since then. Colt does not deserve your money, fucking stag arms AR's run better. Build a BCM

>>32645237
>Unless you fasten the board onto the table
Or, you know, put it on the floor and sit on it...this place really isn't too bright it seems.

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Every time I wonder why I just stopped trying here, threads like this pop up and remind me.

>>32638504
I was wondering while i watched this movie, why didnt they use the minigun to defend the chopper.
I asume its because those things require electricity and the chopper couldnt provide that after a crash landing?

>>32645248

As much as I'd like to support this slav ingenuity, I'd have to say this is a terrible idea.

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>>32645432
>>32644773
It worked like 8 times you mongoloid, holy shit.

>>32645425
unless there was damage to the setup, the batteries of the system would run the gun for longer than it has ammo....

>>32640188
It's been a great rifle to me so far as well. Also checked.

>>32638504
Sorry, I don't usually watch movies, but what movie is that?

>>32645788
Blackhawk Down

I'm curious, how many unmodified M14s/M21s are still in the inventories of the various branches?

>>32645788
Black hawk down

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>>32645861
>>32645881
Thanks!

>>32645176
>2 sinks in the bathroom
Woah.

Also this is bullshit, I lived in a one bedroom with 3 other family members, I used to rebuild engines which takes a hell of a lot more space than 1 vice.

>>32645149
Hey dipshit did you notice vises are removable?
>>32645176
There is literally a table right there. It doesn't have to be a 'dedicated table'.

>>32645242
>Is salty that Colt is still the standard and their civilian rifles are still built to TDP

Maybe you were just too retarded to use one properly.

>>32646772
>ever using clamp on vises

>>32647192
It'll work fine for installing a barrel on an AR-15 upper receiver, come on. You're just trying to make excuses. Not that I'm really trying to advocate you people assembling your own guns.

>>32647183
> Colt is still the standard
wew, next thing he's gonna do is bring up resale value like a true tool

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>>32647227
>>32647183
>Colt
It's Olt now, of Olt's Industries in Artford, CT. Only the most mediocre of 16" carbine-gas offerings and 20" govt. profile barreled rifles to offer. :^
>Oh wait, they just now came out with a middy, GG

>>32638504
For a grand you can build a pretty fucking sweet AR to your own specs.

>>32647256
>16" carbine-gas offerings
I was one of the first to adopt midlengths back when Armalite was just making them as hobby rifles

There is nothing wrong with 16" bbls w/ carbine gas systems and all the pros of middies are either negligible or haven't been around long enough to be proven objectively.

>>32638530
"building an AR" is literally legos for adults. You buy the pieces and put them together with bolts.

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>>32647305
>I hate having next to no recoil, pls gibe overgassed shit-tier aesthetics
Loling @ ur life.

>>32647337
>MSD talking about aesthetics
>rifle is arfcom circa 2008
Suckstart a shotgun grandpa

>>32647337
He says posting a pic with meme tier bbl profile, quad rail for just a light, and foregrip on a semi.

>but muh rail is free float
Nice .05 group size increase with your chrome lined bbl and m193 mate

I'll applaud you on the A1 grip though.

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>>32647363
Post AR you youngling faggot.

>>32647337
>recoil
that .223 recoil is really tough on you huh

>>32647370
> meme tier bbl profile
Mid-profile is best profile you scrub.
> quad rail for just a light, and foregrip
Looks sex, and you forgot the SR07 switch at the 9 o'clock :^
>needs reason to have a FF
I bet you have a drop-in and shoot green tip unironically.

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>>32647386
Yeah, 16" carbine-gas is just that fucking awful. Thank god middies became a thing. ;^

>>32647395
>Mid-profile is best profile you scrub.
No, light profile is best.

>>32647432
Post AR faggit, I bet you kiss girls.

>>32647395
>Mid-profile is best profile you scrub.
.625 profile is best
>>32647376
This is objectively the best rifle you own, I am actually jealous desu senpai

Are AR stoner barrels good?

>>32640563
Thats a shit deal famalam.even if its some top tier self defence ammo.

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>>32647376
Its okay. Maybe you can go bully some poor a1 clonefags

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>>32647499
>that lower
>keymod
Jesus, now I just feel bad.

>>32647499
What's the deal with the lower?

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>>32647519
>a quad rail
>talking shit about any attachment system
>>32647545
Mitsubishi

>>32647552
>Mitsubishi
Then why is it wrong?

Cool to see another MMC fan, though.

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>>32647552
>talking shit about any attachment system
Except mine will still be supported in two years. ;^

>>32647587
You havent even been an AR fag for two years

>>32638504
You're gonna want an AK.

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>>32647596

>>32647614
Back in my day you were milsurp dude because you collected milsurp and wasted money on c96s and shit. Now you have become an entry level ar fag

>>32647602
I feel like this sometimes honestly, trying to discuss ars with autists who think their chrome lined barrel with ff rail makes it a precision rifle becomes tiresome

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>>32647631
You don't even know fag.

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>>32647638
You should do it cunt.

>>32647638
>chrome lined barrel with ff rail makes it a precision rifle
still pretty precise

>>32647674
I'd rather build a sexy A1 clone like you senpai

>>32645432
as much of an asshole milsurpdude is, hes absolutly right, you guys are fucking retarded, this shit is so easy it hurts.

not to mention after i was done building my AR my spanner had a beer bottle opener, i had a beer to celebrate muh freedoms.

>>32645030
Motherfucker, I am not bolting a vise to my kitchen table. My wife would kill me. I live in an apartment and have limited space.

>>32650266
Why are you stupid? Get a clamp on bench vise. Put some cloth between your table and its clamp and go to town.

Do you always need to be spoonfed solutions to your problems?