Why so much love for the M4, but so little love for the M16?

3% velocity loss for chopping off 20% of the barrel length. Also smaller stock for building clearing.

Unless you're tossing 77gr rounds 400+ yds, you wouldn't ballistically know the difference.

>>32616180

One is used in OPERATOR films and games.

The other was used in Vietnam.

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Carbine is kinda just better desu.

>>32616692
where get a1 scope

But I love the M16, Anon.

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>>32616716
Jewbay and GB, usually they're around $400 or so.

>>32616730
uuuug

no knock offs?

>>32616762
Barska makes one. Don't know the quality but can't be worse than GI issue from 60s-70s

>>32616180
Have you seen all the fags scrambling to make an A1 build?

Because the civilian standard for AR barrels is 16 inches with a carbine length gas system.

>>32616868
Good thing I did mine years ago, why all of a sudden interest in retros?

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>>32616762
I mean, you can get the awful Chink clones that pale in comparison in every single way...

>>32616921
Combination of aesthetics and the fact that people are discovering that the old A1 actually got a fair few things right that the A2 then fucked up.
At least, that's why I want to build one. If I'm gonna own something as generic as an AR, it at least better be an M16A1.

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>>32616921
>Retro-futuristic
>Light as hell
>Lolwhatrecoil
>Did I mention AESTHETIC?
Pity the poor fags who decide to get one now though lol.

>>32617112
Little teeny tiny pistol grip for "small hands."

>>32617112
That makes me really want to get an SP1 now.

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>>32617328
It's thicker than the A2 you dick-obsessed faggot.

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>>32616868

How's my A1 build appear to be coming along, senpai?

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I love my A1 clone. I have an A2 as well. I like them both

>>32616180
Because the m16 is objectively bad.

>>32617572
>brass deflector
>standard forward assist dongle
>heavy barrel
Eh.

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>>32617413
And here comes the tripfag throwing an autistic shitfit about the a2, like every thread he appears in.

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>>32617884
You have no begun to see me enter a tard-rage over the A2, my child.
>>32617621
Get the proper lower.

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>tasteful wood furnitures

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i have come to trigger

>>32616180
a1 furniture is hnnnng as fuck.

>>32616198
And along with it 20% of the sex appeal

>>32618755

Does anyone make an A1 length wood stock?

Anyone know where to buy new production A1 uppers? My dad has an Anderson lower he got for Christmas and he wants it like he had in the army

>>32618965
Nodak Spud. The're on backorder like a fucker thought. They're processing orders from last April now.

>>32618698
You'd honestly be pretty cool if you didn't get into a shit flinging match with anyone who prefers a2s over a1s.

Other than that you're one of the less-faggy trips in here.

>>32618913
Only the A1 and A2 are sexy
A3 is non-existant and A4 is fugly
M4/M4A1 looks just as sexy even when tacticooled up

Full sizes actually work reliably vs the jamomatic m4

>>32618698
A2 is pretty sexy for national match though. And gooseneckmounts make everything look 100x more operator

>>32618988
>anyone who prefers a2s over a1s.
Objectively inferior subhumans who deserve the bully.

>>32617786

M16/M4 series weapons on the finest general issue rifle in any army in the world today. They are reliable and accurate weapons systems.

>>32618698
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

>>32616948
>>32617112
>>32617413
>>32618698
You'd have to fuck all of our dogs to even make a dent.

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>>32616180
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0pkfrExiXKi

>>32617572
When are you starting?

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>>32616716
they are coLT 3x20 and 4x20.
around $500 used

i got a 4x20 that won't hold zero, so sucks to suck.

>>32617112
wrong lower dude
that's a full fense A2 and older lower

>>32616831
WRONG
the original COlt scopes were made in Japan and are VERY high quality.

>>32617621
again, wrong lower

>>32618698
>calls out guy for his lower
>doesn't have an A1 lower

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Hey you guys ever re-assemble your bolt turned wrong?

It will try to eject into the side of the upper receiver, literally *JAM* every round.

>>32619075
Why can't you just let go that your side lost?

>>32616180
The MK12 gets love, it's the best of both worlds.

>>32619088
Is this some cringe pasta?

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>>32618893

>>32616198
>3% velocity loss
Kek. More like 7-10% dependent on load.

>>32618974
I emailed them yesterday, don't expect them until about 4 months minimum. The 80%s are gonna be available in Feb though

>>32617572
So why aren't you using A1 parts? This is a joke, right?

>>32618893
Triggered? No, just mildly disappointed that you have thrashed an A1 upper with this faggotry.

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>>32616180
Because military manlets cant handle a rifle longer than their arm or else they will feel threatened.

>6'2 and realizing that the M16A2 is pretty small in the first place.

>>32620126
>i got a 4x20 that won't hold zero, so sucks to suck.

Maybe you should get a better mount and rings?

>Still believing scope lenses themselves don't hold zero on their own.

>>32618893
I'm not autistic like the M16aboos

That's actually a pretty decent setup for a first time shooter. I'd replace that handguard with the A4 skinny, but besides that, nice gun.

>>32620126
Might have something to do with your mount hardly being engaged with the upper friendo...

>>32620136
Why do people think the A1 didn't have fencing?

>>32620854
I had an FAL and even though i'm the same size you are, still M16 is irrelevant for other reasons.

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>>32618698

>>32620137
>bullshit.post

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>>32616198
You're wrong. Stop.

The velocity increase in 20" isnt tremendous. But more than 3%

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>A2 owners
>>32620126
>i got a 4x20 that won't hold zero
Try tightening your mount you dingleberry, that shit looks like it's hardly retained
>>32620136
>that's a full fense A2 and older lower
You need to be castrated for even typing this out, it literally doesn't make any sense.
>the original COlt scopes were made in Japan
The original Colt scopes were made by Colt, which was kinda based in America at that time, with later models being made in Japan. Both were issued in limited numbers.
>again, wrong lower
You're actually right here, good job.
>doesn't have an A1 lower
And then you fuck it up again.
>>32620145
My "side"? What "side"? Is it the side that didn't get a detrimental barrel profile, shitty burst-fire implementation, target sights, and faggy furniture? :^
>>32621678
Because they have A2s.
>>32621973
See above.

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>>32622244

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>>32622271
:^

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>>32622290
fuck you it's a pencil barrel

>>32617572
While not an a1, I think it's hot as fuck anon.

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>>32622312
The only thing worse than an A2 owner is an A2 owner who can't even stick to his guns.

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>>32622350
Anon, the sights are the best designed military sights since the 40's. The stock is a little longer for adult men. The hand guards are simplified and more ergonomic. The twist of 1/7 handles tracers. Even a 1/9 can perform M855 and M193.

>>32622474
> the sights are the best designed military sights since the 40's
>drop rifle and sights are adjusted because your windage knob is fucking huge and juts out a mile
Literally no reason to have replaced the A1 rearsight. I thought like you did they were an improvement, until I saw someone completely lose their zero because the rear sight smacked into a wooden post.
> The stock is a little longer for adult men
RIP your LOP if you have anything other than a T-shirt on senpai.
>The hand guards are simplified and more ergonomic
Literally one of the only things gotten right.
>The twist of 1/7 handles tracers
>infantry rifle
>tracers
Wew

A2 a shit, lost biggly, you know it I know it, it's a disaster, many such cases, SAD!

>>32622474
>>32622505
He addressed you as "Anon" and you didn't even attempt a rebuttal.

A day that will live in infamy.

>>32622244
Yes, no one wanted the outdated beat to shit A1 anymore, so you guys lost.

>>32622527
I put myself second to bullying A2s and their proponents. I'm just a selfless, humble kinda guy.

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>>32622548
Your shitposting bantz are weak and bore me to tears.

>>32622505
>Literally no reason to have replaced the A1 rear sight
In the days before $600 optics, a good set of irons were incomprehensibly valuable.
Admittedly the US Army and the USMC clusterfucked the designing but the principle of good irons is inescapable.
Its hte power to take a 300 meter shoot and in 7 clicks take a 500 meter shot.

>LOP
Flack jackets were the closest they had to armor and the M4 is what you are looking for if you wear anything more obtrusive.
A2 goes with ALICE like Caviar and Fine wine. Just like M4 and Plates go together just like PB and J.
The reason people talk about 'gun systems' is that the system is more than a rifle, its gun, kit and training.
It all works together and trying to make a square peg in a round hole is as dumb as criticizing the square peg for nor fitting. (A2 = square peg, M4 = Round peg for analogy.)

>Tracers
Why wouldn't you insist on setting shit on fire from afar? Get a sandbox, a 1 liter of gas in the center of it, and shoot it with a tracer.

>>32622552
>>32622560

Things they got right the first time:
Communism
Oreo cookies
The Chevrolet Corvette
Honor of men
The President of the United States of America
Catholicism
Marriage
The M16A1
Anything Colt
Ocean liners
Skinny Jeans

I would gladly fuck a M16

>>32622312
this looks like the sexist gun in the thread

im not an Mfag so idk which one it is

which one is that

>>32620137
i've never been able to get the cam pin into a bolt assembly that's 180 degrees out,
sounds like you bolt assembly is out of spec

>>32616180
1. Bitches
2. Hoes

I carried a full length overseas. It's good. But I bought an m4 when out.

Why do we keep having the same conversation?

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>>32621678
>>32622244
>Why do people think the A1 didn't have fencing?
because people are morons

>>32622629
>Anything Colt
>Colt All American 2000
>The pistol was deemed an "embarrassing failure"
>OHWS

>>32616180
>Why so much love for the M4, but so little love for the M16?
mah chevy, mah ford.
same damn thing.

>>32620126
Christ, you must have the neck of a giraffe.

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>>32616180
I guess I'm the odd man out.

I'd take any Vietnam-spec AR over an M-forgery.

But a Colt Commando or something really close to an XM177 would be cool too.

Got a Colt AR15A4 recently, the barrel is incorrectly stamped "1/9 HBAR" because they goofed at the factory. Have heard of a few other instances of this happening but not many

>>32616180

Which Company sells a Good A2? I'm looking to buy one because I like the Classic look and I don't know which company to get it from because the only ones I seem a find are from Bushmaster or Stag Arms and there are very little reviews about them from these companies.


Any advice?

>>32628602
colt ~ olympic ~ stag > cmmg ~ delton ~ rock river > shrubmaster ~ windham ~ armalite

>>32616180

Long black barrel, too moogoo, too moogoo.

>>32620137
>protip you can't