ITT: shit show 2017 predictions

>>32613465
You forgot the vaporware ar killers.

A GAME CHANGER from our friends at Arsenal

>>32613465
>further push on things that haven't come out yet since past shotshows
>silencers galore
>things that will be the "new standard of our industry"

>>32613496

>silencers galore

HPA just got introduced for the year, so here's to hoping.

>one-off neat idea that everyone wants but will never see the light of day

previous examples include:
MP40 clone
Korth 9mm parabellum revolver
That's all i've been tracking so far.

>>32613465
What happened to the semi-auto PM-63C Pioneer Arms showed off at the 2014 show?

>>32613731
Shame you missed the PM-63 parts kits that were like $100.

Shame i missed them too.

>>32613765
I wouldn't know how the fuck to build one back into a semi-auto, closed bolt anyway.

Arsenal has RPK's to unveil.

>>32613465
You're forgetting a new meme bullpup shotgun

>>32613778
You're not supposed to tell anyone you built it and you were supposed to suppress it.
Nah but a gunsmith could work out the trigger shit for you. The only thing you needed was a new barrel because that's what was torch cut.

>>32613781
>Only 3 easy payments of $1299

>>32613794
What about the frame? That shit would need to be rewelded.

>>32613794
God damn I really want a PM-63, it was my favorite SMG in Black Ops and since that encounter I've been in love with it.

>>32613465
blue is the new grey man

>>32613813
That's the easy shit, as long as you file the welds smooth, there's nothing that can hang up the slide.

If the trunion came fucked tho then you'd be boned. Learned my lesson with that czech submachine gun.

>>32613824
Yeah they're pretty dank, they look like a gigantor pistol or a tiny SMG.


https://www.apexgunparts.com/polish-pm63-rak-pistol-parts-kit-9x18-mak-matching-w-extras.html


I really wanted to buy that Breda 30 parts kit 2bh

>>32613778
http://militarygunsupply.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1277

Since it has a progressive trigger it should be a piece of cake to weld a block in place to prevent it from hitting full auto.

http://militarygunsupply.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1277

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>>32613465
SVD, vaporware and other unobtainium from Kalashnikov USA

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>>32613465
>HEY EVERYONE
>DUGAN ASHLEY HERE
>ITS BEEN A WHILE
>IM HERE AT SHOTSHOW 2017 AT THE COLT BOOTH
>SO MR. COLT MAN, TELL US ABOUT YOUR NEW OLD AR-15 AND WHY YOU ARE ONLY BUILDING 2500 OF THE
>We are proud to introTHANKS MR. COLT
>NOW LETS HEAD ON OVER TO A MORE RELEVANT FIREARM MANUFACTURE

No lie tho I hope this years ShotShow is better then last years.

Civilian version of the Polish msbs I hope

>>32613894
How would I convert it to closed bolt tho?

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>>32614108
Colt Logic
>Know what people desirable
>Make a reproduction firearm that people want / find interesting M16A1, XM177, Hamerless
>Only crank our 2,500

Then they wonder why they are always going out of business.

>>32613465
Magpul announces a tangible product

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>>32613465
>this year's the year
>NO I REALLY MEAN IT THIS TIME. I PROMISE

>>32615144
fucking mormons

>>32613465
I'm looking forward to those Taiwanese piston AR15 uppers. Hopefully they'll also import the furniture so you can make it look authentic.

>>32615144

you would have trouble releasing a rifle too if you had to wake up at 4 am to knock on everyones fucking door in a 50km radius

>>32614184
You can't without major redesign, once again though, if you don't tell anyone about it how will gaytf know?
inb4 i'm v&

>>32613465
leatherman charge with replaceable wire cutters

>>32613465
I wonder if Korth will show of their sky marshal or if it's been scrapped.

New Bren Ten real soon now.

My Dad works at Glock USA, and you can expect a Glock carbine this year.

Hopefully Kalashnikov concern announces new product this year.

>>32618966
yeah there is a Glock .223 rifle coming

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>Super Penis Snuggy Covert Holsters
>new old overpriced revolvers in .357 only
>10 "Glock killers"
>sub $800 AR's
>Taurus/Kel-tec/Skyy's latest pile of fluorescent shit
>380's for women that come in colors everywhere
>one goofy fuckwit with a new safety system
>a $500 taint-signature reading speed safe that can be picked open with a nail clipper
>a long rifle only 15 people can afford with a custom case for your Bentley trunk
>California compliant rifle that everyone laughs at
>a pump action shotgun from Ruger, because holy shit nobody makes those anymore
>Remington's latest apology
>new TEAR rounds, from the creators of RIP, that fragment before they hit the target for maximum wound area

>>32618966
Any word on that rumored sub-subcompact Glock for rectal carry?

>>32620018
Are they gonna make a glock smaller than a 42?

>No less than 5 new cartridges for ARs, two of which will become successful memes for one or two years
>Nothing new in 10mm
>Nothing new in .308 semiautos
>A 'unique' concealed carry pistol that becomes a meme
>Tactical A2 Jerky, for use within an A2 grip
>SPEHSSGUNS
>"WE'RE REALLY EXCITED"
>Magpul non-AR stuff we all want but never goes into production
>Couple of PCCs, one of which I'll buy
>Kalashnikov vapor existence

What I want:
>A new .308 semiauto
>A new 10mm
>10mm PCC
>Guns with tacticute color options
>Tacticute stockings with kneepads
>Tacticute skirt
>Less ARs
>A magazine-fed C96
>Mateba to exist and produce Unica 6 again
>Less tacticool bullshit and more good, new ideas

I already know I'm gonna be disappointed.

>more hastily 3D printed MDRs
>twelve new keltec models that will never be released

>>32615144
I forgot are these compacts supposed to come in .308 too?

>>32614044
Was about to say "Bullshit from KC USA", items they obtained before the sanctions as demo models on display as "COMING SOON!"

>>32619108
>>Remington's latest apology
Keked heartily. Thanks anon.

>another piece of kel tec vaporware will be shown
Screencap this

>>32615221
Holy shit lmao

>>32619108
>a pump action shotgun from Ruger, because holy shit nobody makes those anymore

As an unabashed Ruger fanboy I'd by the fuck out of this

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Shockwave starts selling complete shotguns that do not require a stamp.

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>>32615221

>Perhaps some more Mag shitting ARs from Kobalt?
>HMG STG that actually shoots!

>THIS NEW GROUNDBREAKING AR THAT WILL TAKE THE COMMUNITY BY STORM AND THEN BE LAUGHED OUT WHEN THE PRICE IS REVEALED.
>THIS REVOLUTIONARY CALIFORNIA AWB AND SAFE COMPLIANT ANAL INSERT STOCK THAT WON'T OFFEND HOMOSEXUALS.
>AN EXCITING NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE FIELD OF SHITTY REPRODUCTIONS OF OLD GUNS.
Why bother?

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Tikka T3X Tac A1 officially released.

>>32618966
My Dad works at Nintendo and at E3 this year you can expect a new console with a real controller.

I just want a final version of the 308 MDR to be there and hopefully enough reviewers will get to shoot it and talk about the rifle. I've had my preorder in for a year now and they say its releasing this march.

>>32623564
>Preordering guns

>>32621176
Same. I had also heard from an anon that used to work there that ruger was working on a semi auto shotgun. I'd buy either though.

>a bunch of expensive bullshit
>a bunch of cheap bullshit no one wants
>INNOVATION
>THE NEXT STEP IN XYZ
>a sick case of the flu that everyone takes back home an spreads to everyone else

>yet another rifle/pistol that will literally never be heard of again
>repeat 50 times
You heard it here first.

hoping to see new Vepr products, like AK-9 and AK-74M. Would be cool if they could produce AK-107 as well.

>An AR with a piston shoved into it labeled as a groundbreaking design that will never see the light of day for 5 years, at minimum
>At least three budget-friendly ARs, most of which are 16" carbine-gas
>Another shitty gimmick carry-gun round that looks like a DeviantArtfag designed it and will totally blow a dindu in half if you so much as wing them with it, honest
>lolMDR
>Colt showcases their limited run retro ARs, announcing a $2000 pricetag
>Troy announces their own M16A1 clone to accompany their smash-hit XM-177/GAU-5 for $1300.
>Colt rep storms into Troy booth in full DELETTHIS.png mode before being escorted away by security
>Glock announces another model that no one ever asked for
>Blatant vaporware that isn't fooling anyone

>>32623831
Glock is actually working on a .223 rifle

not sure if it's up for this year already though

>>32623564
Oh hey you on the forum? I've been trash talking the MDR to lower street price. Some of my memes about it have gone viral.

How long has Kalashnikov USA been pushing their vaporware and not delivering?

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Excited for:
>Taurus Spectrum in V A P O R W A V E colors
>Hera Arms CQB furniture
Hopes
>HK making mp5 pccs at their new plant/PTR acquiring machinery to make em
>something similar to the m&p shield that's not the m&p shield (looking at you, honorguard)
>reasonably priced prismatic scopes
Dreams:
>9.3x62 renaissance amongst major manufacturers
>S&W ditching the Hillary Hole
>Ruger Hi Powers
>TRW Low Maintenance Rifle but with an ar trigger pack
>ar18/Leader T2-esque rifle
>Nodak Spud increasing manufacturing capacity to meet demand
>GWACS releases CAV-15 mk3 lower
>KAC produces SAM-R gas blocks again ;_;
>Lionheart producing Daewoo k2 domestically

>>32623959
No, I just browse their facebook once in a while. I was excited to see their accuracy reports with FGM 168 gr ammo. I have about 500 rounds with it and 500 PPU match 168gr I usually shoot with my SCAR.

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>>32624260
Addendum:
>Pearce Armory aluminum sks chasis

>>32624313
I M waiting for reviews personally but I'll buy once they have a 19"-24" barrel in .308 and if I can get barrel blanks.

what i want
>new production, clip fed, 6.5 grendel SKSs from izhmash/Tula "theyre hunting rifles guys!"
>10mm carbines
>Wolf announces 357 sig production in steel and brass
>New Arsenal USA facility announced, more/new CR series incoming
what i get
>itsfuckingnothing.jpg

>>32624327
>not able to change it back to its original furniture
It's bubba shit

>>32613804
These are pretty easy payments

I want an AK from Ruger. Please make this a reality

>>32624455
Dgaf, amigo

>>32624501
How would it differ from every other AK?

>>32624531
C a s t
M e t a l

Striker fired revolver.

>>32613465
That P90 style shotgun. Speaking of P90s, a P90 in a straight walled cartridge like 10mm would be nice.

>>32624552
>cast metal
>ras47

>>32624455
I'd love to cut the front end off, rejigger the rear to take an AK stock, a recoat it gray. Saves me the trouble of cloning that FAL kit hackjob.

>>32613465
MDR, again...

>>32624552
How is that a good thing?

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>>32613677
The leftist news is already writing hit pieces on the HPA to discredit it and continue the "silencers are evil assassin tools" narrative.

http://web.archive.org/web/20170111144110/http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-gun-silencers-20170110-story.html

>>32624556
hmmmmmmm

this gets the old noggin a workin'

>>32613465
>>new pump shotgun
Interesting.

>>32624556
Jump down your own throat and take a shit. That suggestion was cancer so you should die from AIDS.

>>32624683
Wait... in California? But silencers are ILLEGAL there! How could he have possibly obtained one?

>>32624683

>That moment when they cite a anti-gun campaign spokesperson as a source

Real unbiased.

>>32624683
>no evidence of a public health issue associated with hearing loss from gunfire

Yeah you right... 160db unprotected is just fine for your ears.

>Chris dorner was cornered and made it difficult for deputies under fire to pinpoint his position

Listen bitch, they never cornered the dorner... how dare you speak of Spook nukem that way

>>32624683
>“There’s no evidence of a public health issue associated with hearing loss from gunfire,”
holy shit these people are retarded. OSHA needs to chime in because they would be flipping their shit over unsafe dB's.

>>32613465
Desert Tech MDR, for real this time
Glock M guns
a 1-15x scope that no one will buy because it weighs 3 lbs, costs $8000, and has a shitty reticle
Surefire XC1-U with an improved rail grabber and 350 lumens
a Magpul drum mag for .308
S&W X-frames in normal calibers like .44 Magnum

>>32623564
>$2500 MSRP
just get an RFB dude

>>32624683
"Silencers make the firearm more accurate" yea tell that to my loss in velocity

>>32620242
>Nothing new in .308 semiautos
Savage MSR
Not "new" per se, but it's something.

Apparently FNH USA is announcing a not AR rifle this year

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>>32626042
please be a semi-auto M240

>>32613465
ACOGs with mil-dot reticles
a direct-impingement AK in 300 BLK
single-stack Glock 9mm the height and length of a 19
Crye six12 for real this time

>Something stupid that violates every rule for safety
Someone will top that trigger laser from last year.

>>32626262
>a direct-impingement AK
Shut the fuck up.

>>32625864
Are you joking right now

>>32613465
>>new glock generation
Nah glock is too high on their own shit to unveil it at shot show, just like with the glock 43. They'll wait until a month later.

This show is going to be boring. We're in a weird transition period. People want not-an-ar-15s, but no one has made any winners. PCCs filled that role last year but are becoming old hat.

>>32615144
Holy fuck that's gorgeous.

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>>32618966
they will never make anything other than handguns. And by that i mean variations on the one gun they've always made.

>>32613465
Glock 19 80% frame

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>>32620242
>>10mm PCC
You know Vector brought a 10mm Kriss to market?

>>32626797
It has to happen eventually.

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>>32626924
Yeah, but fuck that. Why would I want to pay ~2000 dollars for a piece of shit that literally shoots itself apart?

>>32619108
>stagger 33 round glock mag with RIP and TEAR ammo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6BbvCC0VI0

I wish somebody would post a video from the FirstSpear booth. I like their gear a lot, and apparently they're coming out with some new stuff and a line of gloves.

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>>32625864
>yea tell that to my loss in velocity
Found the firearms expert whose experience is informed solely by CoD.

>>32624444
>new production, clip fed, 6.5 grendel SKSs from izhmash/Tula "theyre hunting rifles guys!
This sounds really cool. Also, nice get.

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>>32626837
>>32613465

What if they reveal the G1911, which takes regular G21 mags?

>>32626982
>the disadvantages of the ak combined with the disadvantages of the ar
No. Just no.

>>32627157
And what if they let the public in and give away a free crate of your choice of ammo to everyone who walks through the door


It's never gonna happen

>>32627157
Would be nice, if it didn't have external safeties and an exposed hammer.

>>32627157
A polymer-framed 1911 designed with modern manufacturing techniques in mind, with a double-digit magazine capacity and no safeties except for a thing on the trigger would actually be pretty rad.

>>32627157
>Glock with a grip safety

>>32627202
>ruining the trigger on a 1911
Hello nogunz

Magpul FAL and G3 handguards

>>32627202

either take the frame safety off, or take the grip safety off; replace the other safety with a decocker ez ez

having two (2) safeties on a gun is retarded and pointless

>>32627818

id buy a magpul FAL Tbh

>>32627882
JMB originally designed the 1911 with the grip safety only - added thumb safety only at insistence of Army bureaucrats!

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>>32625864

> when you reveal your lack of powerlevel

If that was bait well done

>>32627909
Sad!
-DJT

>>32613465
>Colt announced a "new product" based off outdated designs
>tacticool AK's
>"groundbreaking AR"
>5.56 carbines that will cost 3 times as much as a good AR
>actual cool products get announced, but will end up not getting released for 3 years
>conceal carry versions of guns that already exist (my money is on a VP9sk)
>civilian models of military guns that already exist, but will end up being vaporware or stupid expensive
>Desert Tech: "It's coming out this year! We mean it this time! Now pls preorder"

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>>32625864

>>32627958
>Airsoft claymore

Is that intentional?

>>32627909
WRONG
he added a grip safety at the request of the army cavalry
To make it drop safe if it fell from a horse

>>32628136
On further research it turns out he originally designed it with no safeties whatsoever on the premise that the half-cock notch would be sufficient, which is even better.

ideas that are just crazy enough to work:

>Hipoint announces a new member to their carbines in either 10mm or .357 Mag because fuck it

>A battery powered/fiber optic combo mil-dot to be a poor mans ACOG.

>some new nightvision gadget that doesnt cost a kidney

>9×19mm revolver, why not

>new silencers that are cheap but decently effective

>top break .357

>H&R resurrected for single shots

>A1 clones, mass produced (fuck you colt)

>Kel Tec announces it is hiring 2 more people, improving production by one gun per day to help meet demand

>Remington announces the use of superior Skillet metal instead of pot metal

> Norinco found a way around import restrictions

Do you thing that a grip safety only 1911 would be popular? Our research has shownthat one of the main reasons people pass on 1911s is because the manual safety would get in the way.

Love Glock

>>32629175
I would by the shit out of a top break 357 mag or Hi point carbine!

I bought a glock 19 gen 4 in august. Did i fuck up?

>>32629292
Buying a Glock anything isn't really a fuckup, but a lack of originality. Glocks are probably in 75% of holsters in the country.

>>32615192
They're not mormons. They're pligs.

>>32625864
use none wiped cans and you'll be fine

>>32626149
its a para 249 in blk or fde

>>32624501
Not that I could imagine it would differ significantly from any other AK I would pay out the ass to have a custom Ruger AK with their seal engraved into the buttstock

>>32624683
>no danger of hearing loss associated with gunfire
Go ask for a list of deaf vets from the VA

>>32629175
>>9×19mm revolver, why not
Korth was advertising theirs two years ago and then it mysteriously vanished. It was a pretty stupid design for a cc pistol but its aesthetics made me rock hard.

a cheap .308 AR

>>32613465
Meme Necromancy from /k/ has revived JMB and he's coming out with a new line of products that will be unveiled.

>>32630030
>Korth was advertising theirs
which one do you mean ?

>>32631107
Sky marshal

>>32631209
http://www.austriaarms.com/new_weapons/korth/3090/korth_sky_marshal_9_x_19_mm/


they have been out for about half a year in Austria which means europe in general

>>32615216
I do photography work with Wolf and Oleg Volk, and they're telling me the A1 upper should be out before summer.

>>32631219
Hasn't been word of it in the US. Looks like it's a bit more expensive than their sub 1k price point.

>>32631265
well the austrian price includes 20% tax

>>32631260
Cool, do you know if they're importing other t91 parts or just the upper?

>>32625928
Why the fuck are pre-built AR-10's so goddamned expensive. MSR10 is twice the price of MSR15.
Jesus fuck

>>32631291
Just the upper for now, but I know Nick Chen from TFB managed to import a full stock set, the wierd pistol grip and a rear sight - he and his buddy Jim from Burst Review have been trying to convince Wolf to import these parts, or have SGM Tactical build them.

>>32631325
Well it's good to know there's some people who are trying to get the furniture imported as well. I know nothing about Taiwanese firearms, but hopefully the uppers are successful so we can get more firearms imported from there.

>>32621176
>>32623637
It's a semi auto, they've been trying to get it to SHOT for the last two years.

>tfw can't figure out a semi auto shotgun
>LCP II
>6MM CREEDMOOR RPR
>TWO MORE AMERICAN COMPACT MODELS
>1911 TARGET
>"NEW" REVOLVERS
>GLOCK KILLER

ffs just release the 300WIN RPR and shotgun already, that's all we care about.

>>32624501
Never gonna happen. Too concerned with other shit.

>>32618966
What? My father is Gaston Glock and he told me that a Glock .50 BMG rifle is coming out this year.

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Things that probably will never happen but that I desperately want:

>PTR shows off its new line of HK93 clones
>Arsenal rolls out its line of SVDs
>HK finally sucked enough dick to get the ATF to let them bring in the HK293

>>32613465
>tacticool style of a classic firearm
>ruger comes out with some surprise shit that nobody asked for but surprisingly tickles your fancy.
>another shitty 9mm carbine from a mediocre company trying to compete with the Scorpion or MPX

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>>32615221

>>32624444
Quads confirm

>>32624683
Now that Clinton is gone, Brady is weaker than ever. Prepare for Congress to pass it anyways, because they really don't give a shit what the Brady Campaign has ever had to say

>>32631602
>Arsenal rolls out its line of SVDs
Yeah, except they'll be $2000 minimum.

>>32631660
Would still buy

>>32613465
>new updates on ancient weaponry in more available calibers for ridiculous prices
>AR accessory
>AR accessory
>AR accessory
>MY new AR that is better than theirs
>No, MY new AR that is better than theirs
>You two need to stop. MY new AR is better than everyone's.
>Guys, lets just end this debate, mine was on <popular youtube video channel> and he loved it so I win.

To everyone decrying the lack of innovation in firearms:
What could a gun possibly do that represents a meaningful improvement over extant guns?

Nothing "new" is coming out because firearms have hit a dead end (or rather, a logical conclusion). Cheap, reliable, lightweight, modular guns are widely available. If full auto was legal and there was market for it, we would likely see more recoil mitigation innovation in the way we've seen innovation in suppressors due to the relative decrease in price of the tax stamp.

I appreciate kel tec trying, at least, but it seems the only thing left to do is to apply existing tech to new areas, or further integration of electronics and guns. I wonder if you could make a gun with a laser thermometer that would prevent the user from firing unless it was pointed at a living being. It could help reduce police collateral damage. Just point and sweep.

>>32631845
>What could a gun possibly do that represents a meaningful improvement over extant guns?

Baseless or semicased ammo.

Magazines that hold more rounds in the same size (more efficient follower or springs)

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>>32626042
NEW PRODUCTION FNCs

PLEASE

FUCKING PLEASE I NEED ONE THAT ISN'T $4000


YOU FUCKING WAFFLENIGGERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>32625864
Retard.

>>32631322
Smaller market, thicker parts

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>>32626149
>>32631923
joke's on you, it's gonna be a limited run of FNACs

>>32626985
I want something like a UMP-10 or something similar. I'd pay to SBR that in a heartbeat.

>>32631660
That's way fuckin cheaper than they are right now.

>>32635521
Certainly.

Tbh I'd rather get a VEPR in .308 with synthetic furniture and call it a day.

>>32631659
That was from the Violence Policy Center. The guy who runs it, Josh Sugarman, somehow has an FFL for it even though they never buy/sell guns using it, no they have it for "research purposes."

Those were the same fucks who convinced Bill to purge kitchen tables FFLs in the 90s.

>>32626149
>>32631923
>>32634722
Why wouldn't it be the SCAR-H's sniper configuration that they've spent the last 3 years hyping US production for?

>>32624683
It doesn't matter what the press thinks. Literally, the only person who can stop it is Chris Murphey in the Senate. That faggot will filibuster it and then we won't be able to override it.

>>32631439
So whats wromg the the LCP II? Seems pretty well loved from what I've seen

>>32624460
We're all impressed at how much money you make. But more to he point, arsenal charges way too much for what is still just an AK

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I think this is the MDR of the entertainment industry.

A $100 9mm rifle

>>32635717
Uhhh what?

>>32635969
Chinese Democracy was the MDR of the entertainment industry.

>>32631260
Know anyone by the name of Steve at Wolf by chance?

>>32631602
Arsenal Bulgaria does not make SVD's tho, they just bought them from Russia

>>32626896
Polymer 80 Has one coming out.

I'll be there. Expect a thread with a shitload of pictures within the week.

>>32636749
neat

>>32636749
Grab Ian's ass if you see him.

>>32636789
If I see him I'm going to invite him to do a video on some of my collection.

>>32636892
do it

>>32629175
Henry has announced that they're going to make single shot shotguns.

They're going to be pricy ~400 but they look aesthetic as fuck.

Also
>Made in America or not made at all

>>32613465
>new AR with 80% less material for that feather weight build

>>32631845
A sleek pistol caliber bullpup that accepts glock mags and doesn't look stupid for <$700

>>32637085
That isn't keltec.

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>>32637085
>pcc that takes muh glawk mags
>innovative
>not stupid looking

>>32637085
Any PCC that feeds from Glock mags will look stupid by dint of having a Glock mag sticking out of it.
Gotta have those MP5, Colt 9mm SMG, or MPX mags to be aesthetic.

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>A triggered Larry Vickers making a scene and going postal after getting kicked out of the ruger booth again because they still didn't know who he was

Fuck I hope this gets on camera this time

>>32637208
>>32637304
A boy can dream dammit!

>>32637429
>Ruger
>needing Larry Snickers views

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>>32637429

Ruger will survive, Larry.

I'm pretty sure i've bought ruger guns on accident before.

Fuckers grow on trees.

Weapon Outfitters here.

I'm gonna be going since I bought plane tickets and reserved a hotel a year in advance, whoops. Shoulda stayed home this year to save money, but too late meow.

Definitely gonna fucking sprint like an Autist to SR-36 on media day to shoot the Hudson H9 on monday.

Gonna ??? for the rest of the week. Will definitely upload videos of pole dancers at the Crye party because that's just what I do.

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something that shoots 30 carbine

WHY IS IT SO UNLOVED

>>32637909

Because it's weak, even by pistol caliber standards

>>32637894
get less coal burners for your models.

>>32637909
>~900ft/lb
>weak
>even by pistol standards
m8

>>32637911
This fucking meme again. 30 carbine has as much energy at 100 yard as 357 mag does at the muzzle.

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>>32623878
wut

>>32638075

10mm master race.

30 caliber carbine is great for the M1 carbine, daz it.

Milo Yiannopoulos will make a surprise showing, and I will marvel at how the a gay, british jew who loves black cock is now a leading speaker in the conserative movement

>>32638108
Even 220gr buffalo bore 10mm doesnt have as much energy at the muzzle as 30 carbine. Its nearly 300 foot pounds short.

>>32638209

Why doesn't the .30 caliber carbine get more designers behind it? Is it some flaw in the cartridge design?

External ballistics are probably crap?

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>>32638174
god i hope not, he can sometimes be based(pic), but he needs to fuck off.

>>32638272
Because people believe the meme about bouncing off winter clothers when in reality the soldiers in korea either missed or were engaging targets at 300 yards with it.

>>32623878
>Glock is actually working on a .223 rifle
>>Glock announces another model that no one ever asked for

>>32623878
>another fucking polymer AR lower

>>32638306

It's weaker than the 5.56 NATO... so you get all the downsides of a rifle and none of the benefits.

Just don't see that working out in the free market. What would the reasoning possibly be for a weapon chambered in a dead cartridge?

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>>32638420
An even lighter pack rifle.
>15 rounds
>6 lbs

Silencers silencers silencers.

Super easy to make, any asshole with a lathe can do it.

Only reason to avoid it before was shitty fucking regulations... with those looming to be gone, the market is gonna get FLOODED!

Silence ALL THE THINGS.

Donald Trump Jr is all about Silencerco, their rivals are probably butthurt

>>32638465
>using a lathe to make a silencer
Why? Its a tube and baffles. Its easy as shit to make with handtools

>>32638457
a basic M4 only weighs 6lbs

>>32638561
7.5 loaded

>>32638581
close enough

>>32638581
>>32638561
M1 carbine is 5.8 loaded with sling according to wikipedia.

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>>32636749
>>32636789
>>32636892

>>32638561
>a 14.5" gun made of aluminum and plastic weighs more empty (6.36 lb) than an 18" gun made of steel and wood does loaded (5.8 lb)
you played yourself

What ever happened to those integrated suppressors that they showed last year?

That might actually be a reality now with the hearing protection act coming through.

>>32638602
sling by nature includes oiler.

Can confirm 5.8

I really love the little things, but 5.56 is a much better cartridge and they're so close in weight to AR15 carbines its just silly to think they're more practical, even if I might want to.

>>32638611
Yeah but LOLonly30carbine

>>32638645
I have been hiking with both an m1 carbine and an ar on seperate occasions. Both with irons, both times with near identical gear and camping stuff. The weight difference is noticible. But to bring back 30 carbine for an even lighter pack rifle would be awesome.

>>32638668
The su16 series of rifles from keltec is like a modern m1 carbine theyre very close in weight. Within ounces i think.

>>32638696
>>32638668
It also folds, has an optic mount, and holds 3 mags just like >>32638457 minus the folding part for the carbine.

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>>32638721
Forgot pic

A modern .30 Carbine load with an expanding or fragmenting bullet and a powder charge not limited by 1940s metallurgy would probably give other intermediate calibers a run for their money in terms of practical effectiveness.

>>32638731
and a built in bipod

>>32638668
I take mine hiking over my ar carbine. The weight difference is nice, but I only take the M1 because I like it. If I really expected to _need_ a rifle I'd take the AR. That said I don't really ever _need_ a rifle when I'm hiking and the M1 is way more fun so fuck the AR.

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>>32631602

>>32638721
>holds 3 mags just like a M1
>except they're 10-round mags
>and you can't fold the gun with one in the magwell so it's really only 2
I'm aware that there's a version of the SU16 that has a hole in the stock so it'll fold over an inserted 30-rounder, but that one doesn't hold spare mags in the stock so

>>32639358
Fair. The non folding one is applicable though.

>>32638279
I'm glad I was at that event. Good times.

>>32638272
The real answer is that nobody cares about an almost PCC that doesn't take pistol mags. Really, who the fuck would want a 30 carbine anything when PCCs are cheaper and match their pistols, and ARs exist?

>>32639552
Its in the middle of a pistol carbine and an ar while being lighter than both.

>>32639552
We went over this in the rest of the thread following that post that you didnt bother to read before replying.

>>32639590
>>32639600
Wow, guns that are barely lighter than an AR, and cost way more than PCCs because no blowback. I don't care if there's a super niche market for them, evidently it's not big enough for manufacturers to waste their time.

>>32613465
I want a new-manufactured, military-style, bolt-action rifle with iron sights. Ideally under $500 and with a proper wood stock.

>>32639661
... You want a fudd gun?

>>32639661
Cz 527?

>>32629175
>>Kel Tec announces it is hiring 2 more people

Lol.

I laugh because they are in my home town and I know people who work or worked there. This would mean two people who already worked there found out they had a family member who needed a job.

>>32638279
>Thinks force is the end all, be all of what makes a round effective
>Disliking Milo
>Some other dumb shit I can't remember

The only trip worse than you is Callum. I swear you're on par with BvBRocks as worst non-trol trip of /k/.

>>32635790
It's pretty fucking nice. Shits all over the 42 and bodyguard

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>>32624260

>>32640629
I'm buying one

>>32640599
I'm real tempted to sell my Bersa .380 and get the LPC II

>>32640590
just suck his dick already, faggot.

>>32631602
>>32631660
I'd buy but I would like it to be in .308

>>32638457
this gun in 10mm/9mm/.357 anything available.
properly made and uder $1000

>>32638085
>>32638377
>>32638394
yeah, rumors always have been about a 9mm carbine

at least for 10 years

and now it's a .223
boss got a glimpse at it about 2 months ago

only thing i got out of him was "it looks blocky"
cheeky cunt didn't tell me much because i absolutely hate glocks
so no glock raifu info for me

Trip fags are all retarded in /k/.

Only a total loser would try to retain identity on an anonymous image board, no denying it

>>32642287
okay

>>32638474
Stamping is annoying on a press, much more consistent results lathe forming sheet

>>32637012
For fucks sake Henry, MAKE GATE LOADERS

I just want Rossi to import 45-70 rifles again for a reasonable price. Who the fuck is buying that shit for slightly less than a marlin?